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Bowyer is saying he took the sponsor 5Hour energy to RCR. Richard opened the books and showed Bowyer and told him the numbers did not add up.

Bowyer wants way north of 5 million to drive for the year.

5 Hour Energy is reportly willing to pony up 13 million for the year.

Amazing to see numbers out there but the cars and up keep must be pretty high plus a crew.

I hope that MWR is not getting in over their heads as well.

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October 11, 2011  09:05 AM ET

intresting. the spoiled overpaid athlete syndrome is creeping in to NASCAR too.

October 11, 2011  09:18 AM ET

I agree with 22ga, I don't think Clint will get that kind of money, just not worth it, Morning Kodiak and all .

October 11, 2011  09:21 AM ET

GM Andy and everyone else
I am surprised at what some of these drivers are getting to be a pack filler

October 11, 2011  09:30 AM ET

I don't think people realize how much money is involved. I just picked a random driver, David Stremee, he is 41st in the order, has only 15 starts and shows no Top 10's. He has earned over a million dollars in purse money.

October 11, 2011  09:31 AM ET

remember the Scott Speed lawsuit vs Red Bull .... he was getting like $ 1 million, up to $ 2 million .... Most Drivers today are paid just like NFL, MLB players ... a Set amount ... not base on Win or Lose ... or the Purse ...

October 11, 2011  09:38 AM ET

Posted the comment on this ...

October 8, 2011 07:23 AM ... Jayski had more on the sponsorship of 5 Hours at MWR ....

5 Hour came to Bowyer, ,... and Bowyer try to work it out with RCR, ... but Childress did not feel the money from 5-Hour Energy was ENOUGH to continue to run a fourth car. ...

and 5-Hour Energy, is putting up a reported $13 million +/- to MWR for 24 races or $541,666 per Race ...

So has NASCAR price themselves / the Teams out of Sponsorship Money ....

so SAD """" ;<(


Read more: http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/1029005-lug-nuts-and-bolts#ixzz1aTpLxe Be

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October 11, 2011  09:48 AM ET

so it NOT $ 13 million for the year ... but only 24 races ...

so it would be $ 19.5 million for all 36 races ...

oh, wait plus the BUD Shootout & All*Star Events ...

just call it $ 21 Million ... keep the change ;-)

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October 11, 2011  10:05 AM ET

NASCAR is definitely pricing themselves out of business. In fact it is starting to look like you have 4 levels of teams, the lower class (Start & Park), the middle class (MWR, EGR, etc.), the upper class (RCR, RFR, JGR) and now the super class (HMS, arguably the #48 only).

I said it the other day, JJ has had the same sponsor, Lowes, his entire career. How many drivers with 5-15 years experience, can say that? None. Yes he has won 5 championships, but look at the former Wonder Boy Jeff Gordon, it took most of last year to find a major sponsor and he's running with 4 different ones this year.

There are a bunch of bad signs popping up and NASCAR is either too stupid, or turns a blind eye to it all. The economy argument is already a too overused excuse across the board. When you have past champions who can't find financial backing, your guaranteed sellout for 25 years suddenly doesn't sell out and missed the mark by a wide margin, TV ratings are down, and several of your successful teams in lower series are closing up you have major issues, and it becomes questionable the survivability of the sport.

It almost feels like one of those old Road Runner cartoons. Willy E. Coyote (Brian France) has just walked off the cliff, and is walking on thin air. Problem is if he looks down he falls, but at this point if he continues walking forward there is no solid ground to walk back onto.

October 11, 2011  10:11 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

Drivers normally don't get even 50% of purse money, BUT I think I'd do OK with 1/2 million yearly.

But Float you don't have the legal fees from your speeding ticket, the multimillion dollar McMansion, the 10+, $200K+ import cars in the garage, the dance club in the basement, western ghost town int the backyard, the go kart dirt track in the back yard, the private plane, the support staff for all your meetings, sponsor commitments, child care etc., the top of the line motorhome, or the trophy wife who spends the $500K on just a single shopping trip to support. And that doesn't include the alimony to wife #1, 2 and 3 that you married with no prenup!

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October 11, 2011  10:14 AM ET

the rumor was DANICA was getting $300,000 per Race in NationWide .... last year! ...

True or False ...

talk ~ rumor of a $10m Signing bonus for Edwards ... first from Home Depot to sign with Gibbs/TOY ... then maybe get one from FORD for re-signing with Roush ...

who knows ... that is NASCAR little secret ...

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October 11, 2011  10:40 AM ET

Well Nova supposedly Cousin Carl is in hot water with his Roush teammates because of the signing bonus/pay increase. The rumor there is Carl is getting more money while others like Matt Kensith and Greg Biffle had to take pay cuts in their contract negotiations.

October 11, 2011  11:09 AM ET
QUOTE(#14):

the rumor was DANICA was getting $300,000 per Race in NationWide .... last year! ...-

Or roughly about a Dollar per minute of camera time running tail end of lead lap

October 11, 2011  11:14 AM ET

dont forget the personal services contracts, and appearance fees.

Junior: $75K-$100K speaking Fee
Carl: $40K-$60K speaking fee
DW: $40K-$50K Speaking fee
MW: $30K-$40K speaking fee.

October 11, 2011  11:25 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

NASCAR is definitely pricing themselves out of business. In fact it is starting to look like you have 4 levels of teams, the lower class (Start & Park), the middle class (MWR, EGR, etc.), the upper class (RCR, RFR, JGR) and now the super class (HMS, arguably the #48 only). I said it the other day, JJ has had the same sponsor, Lowes, his entire career. How many drivers with 5-15 years experience, can say that? None. Yes he has won 5 championships, but look at the former Wonder Boy Jeff Gordon, it took most of last year to find a major sponsor and he's running with 4 different ones this year. There are a bunch of bad signs popping up and NASCAR is either too stupid, or turns a blind eye to it all. The economy argument is already a too overused excuse across the board. When you have past champions who can't find financial backing, your guaranteed sellout for 25 years suddenly doesn't sell out and missed the mark by a wide margin, TV ratings are down, and several of your successful teams in lower series are closing up you have major issues, and it becomes questionable the survivability of the sport.It almost feels like one of those old Road Runner cartoons. Willy E. Coyote (Brian France) has just walked off the cliff, and is walking on thin air. Problem is if he looks down he falls, but at this point if he continues walking forward there is no solid ground to walk back onto.

Having been around Nascar since Day 1 the problems are pretty easy to see. All this foolishness about it being the economy is finally letting up. Every time I mentioned that Nascar was in more trouble than it being the economy, I was told that I was just complaining to complain. Nascar is in trouble and it's BIG TROUBLE. Hopefully they will see the problems, I do think the powers to be have realized it, and do something about it. This country got into a mess because of greed and it is rearing it's ugly head in Nascar lately.
Raistwalker; you have nailed it today.

 
October 11, 2011  11:37 AM ET
QUOTE(#19):

Raistwalker; you have nailed it today.

As I always tell you guys: The sooner you realize I'm always right the happier everyone will be! :-D

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