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"I've read fanmail this week where a guy was losing fairly late into a TD where the other person had already been caught plagarizing his argument. HOW????"

I acctually fixed that problem for SS. I got him about 20 votes in an hour. I have that field under reps.

I agree with you Sooner. I have only been on here a few months so I am not sue how it used to be, but it is ridiculous how narrow minded these fanatics can be. I just had a brief thread where another member was commenting on Brandon Jacobs -vs- Marion Barber and he was arguing for Jacobs. I told him that he should start a TD because he had some very valid points. He said that he was not even going to bother with a TD because there are so many Cowbay fans out there and they would just vote for the fan favorite. Im not hating on the cowboys, just making a point. It is just a shame because it could have been such a great TD - he had some great arguements for Jacobs. I don't blame him though it would have been a suicide TD even if the other person just wrote Marion Barber and forfeited the rest of his turns.

Maybe there is a better way? What if you had to click on a ( Read ) icon for each arguement before it let you cast a vote? If there are 6 arguements than you have to click 6 times before you can vote. It would certinly cut down on the total number of votes cast, but it would increase the integrity of the TD.

whodey...
I actually like the idea of not being able to see the arguments until click argument button and then read within the argument itself.
With the vote not being triggered until all read buttons clicked.

I vote alot of cowboy tds for the boys but have voted against and even argued against them once in a td.

Im just baffled how a forfeit and naming a team gets you 10 votes . Amazing. You are right -- IF say anything against SEC hard to win although there has been some backlash to the pro-SEC thing lately. Now the Big10 fans vote for anything big 10. Sad

Totally agree. There are a bunch of idiots on this site now. Not sure how some people get votes.

Cass just made a similar comment on a TD I'm in with Goodell about top 3 most influential people in NFL history. She said, No Rooney no vote to either.

thanks for the compliment sooner. i see the bad in fannation, but theres ppl like us that like it for the tds being fair.

thx sooner in wa! i do read and i do argue. but what can we do?

it is one of the great debates here

-Vote for who you think is right
or
-Vote for the better argument

I actually try to read a TD without any bias, I read and whomever sways me I go with. If it is too close to call then I go with what I think.


I think some people just like to vote on who they agree with not so much what they have to say about it. But keep up the hope, as long as the TD is something that isn't obvious the better argument usually wins out.

let the revolution continue

Hey, when I vote (not often, I don't do spam), I take both position and argument into consideration. If someone was to say Wilt Russell-Jabbar was the best center (any of them), I'd read to see which argument was better, but if it was Shaq in that argument, I'd ignore it.

How many of you click accept on anything on line without reading the whole thing?

How many of you read the ENTIRE terms and conditions on this VERY site?

Thought so.

the only was to really handle this is to worry about the arguement itself.

I've LOST Td's and got mail back where I CONVINCED my oppenent, more so that fannation.

Now I do like to win- and win I often do- what irritates me are cases where you list where the opposong argument STINKS or is nonexsistant

example

http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/103737

I am guilty of reading TOO far into the arguments, if anything... It often feels as though we are merely Sisyphus, pushing the rock of competent & logical argument up the hill of FanNation only to have it roll back on us with the weight of ignorance...

I love to read the throwdowns, I love to argue. I vote entirely based on the argument put forth, and will often find myself voting against my personal beliefs simply because that side of the argument was debated so poorly. I like the idea of having to click a read button to an extent, but at the same time I think we can often find ourselves reading too far into win-loss records here...

If you are going to throwdown, do it for the sheer fun of it all. Do it because you love to argue sports; if you are debating merely to pile up wins, then this site is certainly not for you...

I feel I can argue as competently as anyone, but I also understand that I will often play the devil's advocate -- and that is bound to lose some votes... I feel your pain, Sooner, but don't get too discouraged...

The argument was about best NFL team of all-time 62 packers or 85 Bears. I said neither was the best because neither was the best team of all time which actually is the 78-79 Steelers. If you got a problem with that you need to buy some stock in Kleenex.