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So what is everyone's opinion of the Martinsville race?

Was everyone able to see it, or did some of us miss it because of the snowfall in the Northeast?

Are we down to a two man battle for the Championship or are there still a few other contenders?

What did you think of Brian Vickers driving job yesterday?

Any other thoughts or comments?

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October 31, 2011  10:12 AM ET

22ga.....Vickers was involved in 4 or 5 incidents on the track, and he cost JJ a win by retaliating at Kenseth and bringing out the final caution. To quote Chad Knaus talking to JJ on the radio after that flag was thrown "You can thank Vickers for being a jackass." I agree...at that point in the race, Vickers needs to think of the effect of his actions on the other competitors who are actually still on the track.


I thought the race itself was great. And it's not mentioned much, but did anyone catch Biffle driving out in front of the field JUST as the flag went green after a caution? He almost caused 3 or 4 wrecks in the first 2 laps afterward. I like Biffle, but that was another shady move.

October 31, 2011  10:17 AM ET

After seeing #17 Matt fall from 2nd, -14 in Points to 5th, -36, with a bad day at the Track ...

and #14 Tony go from 4th, -19 points to 2nd -8 points with a Great Day ...

one slip up by #99 Edwards and could be a SIX man battle ....

October 31, 2011  10:34 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

22ga.....Vickers was involved in 4 or 5 incidents on the track, and he cost JJ a win by retaliating at Kenseth and bringing out the final caution. To quote Chad Knaus talking to JJ on the radio after that flag was thrown "You can thank Vickers for being a jackass." I agree...at that point in the race, Vickers needs to think of the effect of his actions on the other competitors who are actually still on the track.

I thought the race itself was great. And it's not mentioned much, but did anyone catch Biffle driving out in front of the field JUST as the flag went green after a caution? He almost caused 3 or 4 wrecks in the first 2 laps afterward. I like Biffle, but that was another shady move.

Actually, I would say NASCAR, by not throwing a caution of Brad K's spin, cost Johnson the win. I think Johnson was slowing a little down the back stretch anticipating the caution which is why Stewart was able to pass him on the outside. Similar to what happened to Mark Martin at Daytona a couple years ago, they were wrecking behind him and Mark slowed expecting a caution but NASCAR kept the race green and Harvick was able to pass him for the win.

I know the Vicker's retaliation perpetrated the restart that caused the Brad K incident, but I have a feeling something else was going to bring out a late caution, Vickers just manned up and took it upon himself to be that late caution.

I don't know if the Biffle thing was shady or just another dummy move for the day. I don't remember the exact circumstance as far as who was leading and who would have benefited from him rejoining the field at that exact juncture. If it were to say mess up JJ for Kensith to pass for the lead Biffle would have been more of a danger to Kenith then JJ.

October 31, 2011  10:38 AM ET

I was a little concerned for the lack of consistency in the way NASCAR was throwing the cautions. At one point you had Bobby Labonte stopped on the end of the front stretch with damage, and the leaders quickly coming and no caution. Yet other times drivers spin 360 hit nothing and drive away and the caution would be out.

October 31, 2011  11:13 AM ET

Raist....a dummy move is a better way to put Biffle's move. It backed up a whole inside line of cars from the 2nd or 3rd row back on the restart and could have caused some major wrecks. I think Vickers retaliated at least twice yesterday,but it was Vickers who caused the final flag/restart.

October 31, 2011  11:15 AM ET

Love that track, no snow in Florida so the power stayed on,looks like a two man battle and Carl loves Homestaed, Vickers is a dunce, no other comments.

October 31, 2011  11:43 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

I was a little concerned for the lack of consistency in the way NASCAR was throwing the cautions. At one point you had Bobby Labonte stopped on the end of the front stretch with damage, and the leaders quickly coming and no caution. Yet other times drivers spin 360 hit nothing and drive away and the caution would be out.

It would have hurt certain people, or helped others.

October 31, 2011  11:43 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

Raist....a dummy move is a better way to put Biffle's move. It backed up a whole inside line of cars from the 2nd or 3rd row back on the restart and could have caused some major wrecks. I think Vickers retaliated at least twice yesterday,but it was Vickers who caused the final flag/restart.

Vickers probably should have been parked much earlier, on the stupidity rule or something

October 31, 2011  02:07 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Actually, I would say NASCAR, by not throwing a caution of Brad K's spin, cost Johnson the win. I think Johnson was slowing a little down the back stretch anticipating the caution which is why Stewart was able to pass him on the outside.

How could have JJ known about the spin to slow down when the spin happened behind him? He didn't slow down Stewart just beat him. BK got his car going so there was no need for a caution.

October 31, 2011  02:08 PM ET

Smoke quotes, postrace:

And that respect, Stewart said, is what seems to be missing in today's "no give and all take" way of short-track racing.

But Stewart did offer a solution, perhaps only slightly tongue in cheek.

"I think they ought to get a portable boxing ring," Stewart said. "As soon as they get done with the victory celebration, set the boxing ring on the frontstretch, give the fans a real show they paid for.

"If you want to boost the attendance at Martinsville, have a boxing match with each of the guys that had a beef with each other."

October 31, 2011  02:19 PM ET
QUOTE(#10):

How could have JJ known about the spin to slow down when the spin happened behind him? He didn't slow down Stewart just beat him. BK got his car going so there was no need for a caution.

Spotter saying "Wrecking (Spin) behind you."

Typically when you hear that a caution is about to come out, especially since at the time it would have led to a GWC overtime finish.

October 31, 2011  02:20 PM ET
QUOTE(#11):

Smoke quotes, postrace:And that respect, Stewart said, is what seems to be missing in today's "no give and all take" way of short-track racing.But Stewart did offer a solution, perhaps only slightly tongue in cheek."I think they ought to get a portable boxing ring," Stewart said. "As soon as they get done with the victory celebration, set the boxing ring on the frontstretch, give the fans a real show they paid for. "If you want to boost the attendance at Martinsville, have a boxing match with each of the guys that had a beef with each other."

Now that is an idea! Hasn't that same idea been suggested right here in ths forum? maybe not for that spacific track but a similar idea.

October 31, 2011  02:22 PM ET
QUOTE(#12):

Spotter saying "Wrecking (Spin) behind you."Typically when you hear that a caution is about to come out, especially since at the time it would have led to a GWC overtime finish.

true, but I still think watching it back a couple of times that TS just beat him down into turn 3.

October 31, 2011  02:32 PM ET

right or not, I rather enjoyed seeing some of my less than favorites taken out

October 31, 2011  02:34 PM ET
QUOTE(#13):

Now that is an idea! Hasn't that same idea been suggested right here in ths forum? maybe not for that spacific track but a similar idea.

I know I advocated an MMA type of beatdown involving the top 10 at the plate race to determine the ultimate winner.

I'd watch Tony Stewart thought, he'd probably get Ryan Newman to throw a chair to him in the ring!

October 31, 2011  02:36 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

true, but I still think watching it back a couple of times that TS just beat him down into turn 3.

I know JJ said he got beat in his post race interview, but I tend to think that might have been more to save face then to blame NASCAR. Doesn't want to get a 12-A (Conduct detrimental to stock car racing) penalty while he is still mathematically in contention.

October 31, 2011  02:50 PM ET
QUOTE(#17):

I know JJ said he got beat in his post race interview, but I tend to think that might have been more to save face then to blame NASCAR. Doesn't want to get a 12-A (Conduct detrimental to stock car racing) penalty while he is still mathematically in contention.

lol

October 31, 2011  03:27 PM ET
QUOTE(#17):

I know JJ said he got beat in his post race interview, but I tend to think that might have been more to save face then to blame NASCAR. Doesn't want to get a 12-A (Conduct detrimental to stock car racing) penalty while he is still mathematically in contention.

that rule clause didnt seem "top of mind" to Vickers now, did it?

 
October 31, 2011  05:21 PM ET

Vickers ... 3 races to go before NO Red Bull ...

for Next Year ... Start n' Park ride in CUP ...

maybe ... he could be DANICA ... back up part time driver ...LOL ..

texas NW race ... DANICA ... starts her full time career in NASCAR .. in the ...

GoDaddy.com- Dan Wheldon Memorial.com .... #7 Chevrolet ... Nice ..

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