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Does the move from Dodge to Ford by Penske Racing vindicate Kurt Busch ?

Was his angry radio rants toward his team justified ?

This move by Penske should make those two questions easy to answer.

My opinion,YES and YES.

Kurt Busch might turn out to be right about the Penske race cars, here is a a quote from Kurt I found in an article by David Newton of ESPN back in 2011.

"We look like a monkey f------- a football. The f----- Penske cars are a f------- joke."

Those are very strong words and if I may say so, VERY FUNNY, something about a relationship between a monkey and a football makes me makes me laugh out laud.

Sorry folks , it just does.

This year will prove that the reason Penske  made multiple chases was because of a talented driver, Kurt Busch, and not the quality of the cars.

I believe it's a safe bet that there won't be a Penske car in the 2012 chase.

Can we agree on that ?

And as always this is just a fans opinion and from what I understand everybody has one and I thank God for that.

Enough said.


March 2, 2012  08:41 AM ET

Daytona 500 finishes have very little to do with the final standings. When Matt Kensith won his first 500 a couple years ago he missed the Chase entirely. Trevor Bayne won last year and then had ho-hum to poor finishes in the rest of the races he competed in that season. Just because Penske is in the lower third in points means little at this point.

Does the switch to Ford vindicate Kurt Busch? I don't think this switch does anything for Kurt Busch. Had he been in a Ford last year he probably would have finished in the same position in points. I think there was more of an issue with him and the team than just a bad car. Do I know what those issues were? No, but there was more to this meltdown then just radio rants and cursing out the news media people who were just doing their jobs.

If anything this shows me the poor state that Dodge is in. If they are loosing their flagship team that does not bode well for the manufacturer in NASCAR. Right now there are 3 Dodges in the Cup series, 2 from Penske and 1 from Robby Gordon, and in 2013 I look for them to be gone from Cup and Nationwide completely. For all we know the switch is because Dodge has told Penske that they will no longer be in NASCAR in 2013, and he is not burning any bridges by stating it his decision not that Doge is leaving the series.

March 2, 2012  10:29 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Daytona 500 finishes have very little to do with the final standings. When Matt Kensith won his first 500 a couple years ago he missed the Chase entirely. Trevor Bayne won last year and then had ho-hum to poor finishes in the rest of the races he competed in that season. Just because Penske is in the lower third in points means little at this point.Does the switch to Ford vindicate Kurt Busch? I don't think this switch does anything for Kurt Busch. Had he been in a Ford last year he probably would have finished in the same position in points. I think there was more of an issue with him and the team than just a bad car. Do I know what those issues were? No, but there was more to this meltdown then just radio rants and cursing out the news media people who were just doing their jobs.If anything this shows me the poor state that Dodge is in. If they are loosing their flagship team that does not bode well for the manufacturer in NASCAR. Right now there are 3 Dodges in the Cup series, 2 from Penske and 1 from Robby Gordon, and in 2013 I look for them to be gone from Cup and Nationwide completely. For all we know the switch is because Dodge has told Penske that they will no longer be in NASCAR in 2013, and he is not burning any bridges by stating it his decision not that Doge is leaving the series.

Well remember this and then at the end of the season remind me of it, either way, Penske will not make the chase, if that happen, and I believe it will, most reasonable people.( I sound like a lawyer...lol) will conclude that the reason they did not make the chase -with the same equipment and and probably about the same personal-is because they did not have Kurt Busch driving a car...as always time will tell..

March 2, 2012  12:54 PM ET
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Well remember this and then at the end of the season remind me of it, either way, Penske will not make the chase, if that happen, and I believe it will, most reasonable people.( I sound like a lawyer...lol) will conclude that the reason they did not make the chase -with the same equipment and and probably about the same personal-is because they did not have Kurt Busch driving a car...as always time will tell..

I can understand if you mean the 22 not making the Chase, but Penske as an organization will be in contention for a Chase spot.

Brad K. made the Chase last year at near the last minute. I can see him being in contention for a Chase spot this year, and the only way he wouldn't make it would be because of an impressive last minute charge. The #2 team is intact from last year, and Brad drove the wheels off from about late July until mid-October. He fell off after a "poor" showing at Martinsville. (Which is only a "poor" finish because of a late race punt)

I think if you want to talk about Dodges being inferior to the other manufacturers, (or Penske equipment in general) and how the #22 was only in the Chase because of Kurt then this season will be perfect to test that theory. Kurt is in a Chevy, and a low budget team. If he makes the Chase then it will show his driving skills are what put him in the Chase last year, if he doesn't then we can conclude that it wasn't an equipment issue that caused him to walk away from Penske.

March 2, 2012  02:14 PM ET

My dear friend you can not be serious and compare Penske with a small team..I know they got Hendrick power..but please......they don't have the other 200 race personal...lol..I don't expect him to win a race....

Your quote:: " ......if he doesn't then we can conclude that it wasn't an equipment issue that caused him to walk away from Penske."
I don't agree...(:

March 2, 2012  03:18 PM ET

Now I may be wrong but you said the only reason why Kurt made the Chase last year was because of Kurt's driving ability and not his equipment.

Your words: This year will prove that the reason Penske made multiple chases was because of a talented driver, Kurt Busch, and not the quality of the cars.

So how is that not like comparing Penske to a small team like Phoenix Racing (where Kurt is driving this year and has never been in the Chase) who doesn't have quality cars? If Kurt is a superior driver then he should be able to pilot his car, no matter the team, into the Chase.

To sit there and say Penske has no chance at the Chase because Kurt is not driving one of his cars is just ridiculous. Brad Kes. made the Chase last year, and A.J. Allandinger is improving every year. Both I think have a very respectable chance of making the Chase. That is based off of their driving abilities, and their equipment. Penske may not be a top tier team, but I would rank them below the Big 4 but above second tier teams like Petty, Waltrip, and Ganassi. So like a 1.5 tier team.

March 2, 2012  04:34 PM ET

It is said that money is speed, if that is a true statement you are not making a fair comparison, if KB would of gone to Chip or MWR than one could make the comparison..I can't buy this one...in the the spirit of the old southern term, I have to say.....that dog won't hunt here...lol

March 2, 2012  04:34 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Now I may be wrong but you said the only reason why Kurt made the Chase last year was because of Kurt's driving ability and not his equipment. Your words: This year will prove that the reason Penske made multiple chases was because of a talented driver, Kurt Busch, and not the quality of the cars.So how is that not like comparing Penske to a small team like Phoenix Racing (where Kurt is driving this year and has never been in the Chase) who doesn't have quality cars? If Kurt is a superior driver then he should be able to pilot his car, no matter the team, into the Chase. To sit there and say Penske has no chance at the Chase because Kurt is not driving one of his cars is just ridiculous. Brad Kes. made the Chase last year, and A.J. Allandinger is improving every year. Both I think have a very respectable chance of making the Chase. That is based off of their driving abilities, and their equipment. Penske may not be a top tier team, but I would rank them below the Big 4 but above second tier teams like Petty, Waltrip, and Ganassi. So like a 1.5 tier team.

It is said that money is speed, if that is a true statement you are not making a fair comparison, if KB would of gone to Chip or MWR than one could make the comparison..I can't buy this one...in the the spirit of the old southern term, I have to say.....that dog won't hunt here...lol

March 3, 2012  10:36 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

It is said that money is speed, if that is a true statement you are not making a fair comparison, if KB would of gone to Chip or MWR than one could make the comparison..I can't buy this one...in the the spirit of the old southern term, I have to say.....that dog won't hunt here...lol

Your entire argument that Penske won't make the Chase this year is that Kurt is not driving one of his cars, and that KB isn't driving a Penske Dodge because of substandard equipment. I am saying Penske will have at least 1 car in the Chase even without KB in the driver's seat. If KB is such a good driver as you claim (being able to take drive substandard equipment into the Chase) then he should be able to do it with the #51 team.

The whole idea that I am making an unfair comparison because I comparing what you see as substandard equipment (Penske) with actual substandard equipment (Phoenix Racing) just seem ridiculous to me. Substandard is substandard, so KB should be able to drive the #51 into the Chase just like the drove the #22 into the Chase last year.

And as always a good discussion my friend even if we do disagree on some things.

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March 3, 2012  01:23 PM ET

I think you're an idiot. Brad keselowski finished 5th in the points last season, higher than Kurt Busch, also had 3 wins to Kurt's 2.

Brad will make the Chase and Dinger will compete for a Chase spot.

Anyone that looks at standings after the Daytona 500 as an indicator of anything is dumb. Jimmie Johnson has -23 points, he must suck.

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March 3, 2012  07:27 PM ET
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If I was Toyota, I would be very pissed. Roger Penske is one of if not the biggest Toyota Dealership in the US.

Some else told me that..good point

March 3, 2012  08:22 PM ET
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I think you're an idiot. Brad keselowski finished 5th in the points last season, higher than Kurt Busch, also had 3 wins to Kurt's 2.Brad will make the Chase and Dinger will compete for a Chase spot. Anyone that looks at standings after the Daytona 500 as an indicator of anything is dumb. Jimmie Johnson has -23 points, he must suck.

Please read the article again.....no one has said anything about using Daytona as an indicator to anything..I was just pointing out how they are already in a hole..I'll keep track of your prediction...lol

March 8, 2012  04:29 PM ET
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Some else told me that..good point

And a huge Chevy dealership right in Indy. Most of these guys would sell Amish buggiesnifntheyncould make a buck.

March 8, 2012  04:31 PM ET

I feel they swap has no bearing in KU Busch issue at all whether his cars were crap or not was not the issue, it's how he handled himself that got his butt fired. They can say it was mutual decision all day long, he was fired.

March 8, 2012  08:09 PM ET
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And a huge Chevy dealership right in Indy. Most of these guys would sell Amish buggiesnifntheyncould make a buck.

lol...lol

March 8, 2012  08:10 PM ET
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I feel they swap has no bearing in KU Busch issue at all whether his cars were crap or not was not the issue, it's how he handled himself that got his butt fired. They can say it was mutual decision all day long, he was fired.

He was fired...true......

 
July 2, 2012  03:06 PM ET

Congrats to Brad, a most powerful run but somewhat boring. Ironically, my wife blew my mind this weekend while I was watching the race as she pranced around the house in a spoof of the NASCAR logo tee shirt with the word "BORING" on the front! She picked it up at http://www.nascarwidows.com and it was quite funny and too close to the truth.

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