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It's hard to stay objective and not sound angry when writing about ones favorite driver, so I'll just give you some quotes I got from JPM fans on facebook and a JPM fan site.

Some are about Chip and some are about Montoya, I will edit them so they don't offend you, let your imagination fill in the @ characters.

"....been telling you that guys for the longest time, chip is an @@@ who don`t care about his nascar team, they`r producing money anyways, I don`t blame Montoya for been careless, I would be too with no good cars for the whole season, SHAME ON CHIP GANNASS@@@@ !!!!!!  "

 ".......I DON`T LIKE  THAT FAT @@@ AT ALL  !!!!!!..."

"......no point its not indy car so he dont care..." "...and jaun would rathe be flying his jets..."

"..... cant see pic but sooo fed up...."

".....Juan pablo should brake that contract and send chip to hell.!!!!!!..."

".......ha...lol He needs to say good bye and thanks to Chip! Life's too short........"

".......Juan things are only for his toys...airlplan and games....."

Again folks, those are not my words, but I do agree with most of those quotes, I just would not use such colorful language.

This team is beginning to sound like the Cleveland Browns (I'm a Browns fan so I'm sure you feel my pain) there is always next year, every time they talk to the media they are "making progress" and yet year after year the Browns take a beaten.

The last three years EGR and the # 42 team have been telling us the same story, maybe next, next, next year, maybe next, next, next race and on and on, well folks they are running out of time and as you can see from those quotes fans are not believing the story.

Today at New Hampshire there was a shameful presentation of a product by Chip Ganassi, the #42 driven Juan Pablo Montoya ended up 25 th and two laps down.

Yes folks I do consider a race team with a commercial logo on the hood and a fan base  as a consumer product, Chip Ganassi has been presenting Juan Pablo Montoya fans with an inferior product to say the least.

Can we agree on that.

What is the solution you may ask, is simple, Juan Pablo needs to get out of that car, or the series if he can't find another ride, there has to be an opportunity in Indy cars, he would win a championship there for sure.

It is sad for Montoya fans to see their driver become a non factor, a fill in if you will, running in the back sucking up exhaust fumes, specially when they were used to seeing him be competitive in his non-NASCAR career, is a shame folks, that is a dam shame.

As always this is just a fans opinion and from what I understand everybody has one and I thank God for that.

Enough said.



 

July 16, 2012  09:31 AM ET

Michael Andretti may be looking for a NASCAR driver for his operation here soon....

I will agree EGR is just a shadow of what both DEI and Sabco/Ganassi racing once were. Ganassi was a championship contending team in 2002 before their driver at the time Sterling Marlin broke his neck. And DEI was running great and in contention in the early 2000's.

I have said it before and stand by it: Montoya is a world class driver, he has proven that in open wheel, but I think NASCAR is somehow beyond him. Equipment has a lot to do with it, but there have been plenty of other drivers in equal or lesser equipment than him who have won races since his last win. And even now he isn't doing great being a Road Race Ace.

At this point I don't think any NASCAR team or sponsor is going to go with Montoya to driver their car. Target is probably still on the #42 mainly though contracts made via Ganassi's Indy Car efforts, much like Penske's Cup cars are semi-sponsored/funded by Verizon. Montoya's best chance of reviving his racing career would probably be moving back to Indy Car.

July 16, 2012  11:07 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Michael Andretti may be looking for a NASCAR driver for his operation here soon....I will agree EGR is just a shadow of what both DEI and Sabco/Ganassi racing once were. Ganassi was a championship contending team in 2002 before their driver at the time Sterling Marlin broke his neck. And DEI was running great and in contention in the early 2000's.I have said it before and stand by it: Montoya is a world class driver, he has proven that in open wheel, but I think NASCAR is somehow beyond him. Equipment has a lot to do with it, but there have been plenty of other drivers in equal or lesser equipment than him who have won races since his last win. And even now he isn't doing great being a Road Race Ace.At this point I don't think any NASCAR team or sponsor is going to go with Montoya to driver their car. Target is probably still on the #42 mainly though contracts made via Ganassi's Indy Car efforts, much like Penske's Cup cars are semi-sponsored/funded by Verizon. Montoya's best chance of reviving his racing career would probably be moving back to Indy Car.

Only one argument with your statement...JPM is a NASCAR driver but a combo of terrible cars and amateur crew chiefs made him an averege driver,(Brian Pattie did not like Juan, aperently he told some relsatives that and they put it on facebook, I think that is why he got fired) I was looking at Juan stats and I was surprised to see that his stats are better than half of the field, (I believe we had this discution before) so you are saying that half of the drivers in NASCAR are... "....NASCAR is somehow beyond him..." or in this case THEM....Just want to confirm what your saying.....but we can agree on the rest, Im not a Chip fan so I would love to see Juan in the new cars with Penske...lol.;..lol...if you don't know the Chip and Pensk history you should read about it is like cats and dogs.....I would enjoy that...better yet #22 in NASCAR....oh I would enjoy that...lol

July 16, 2012  11:55 AM ET

I don't care for JPM. He sucks.

July 16, 2012  12:16 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

I don't care for JPM. He sucks.

This.

July 16, 2012  12:46 PM ET

Looking at the points right now, Montoya sits 21st. 8 drivers have started the same number of races (19) and sit lower in the points than he does, and of those drivers I would say only Aric Almirola is in equal or better equipment, most are Start and Parkers, or single car operations with no technical sharing. Kurt Busch and A.J. Allmendinger are lower in points than Montoya, but they have only been in 18 and 17 races respectively.

Now I use points as a meter because we all know any given Sunday even a top tier driver like Jimmie Johnson can blow a motor or wreck and have a poor result. Points are a better indication of a driver's season, up to the reset for the Chase.

As far as crew chief go, the only comment I will make is that it was Brian Pattie that was JPM's Crew Chief the year he made it into the Chase, 2009. Granted their relationship might have been on the downside the entire time, but that is the only time JPM made it into the Chase.

July 16, 2012  12:50 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Only one argument with your statement...JPM is a NASCAR driver but a combo of terrible cars and amateur crew chiefs made him an averege driver,(Brian Pattie did not like Juan, aperently he told some relsatives that and they put it on facebook, I think that is why he got fired) I was looking at Juan stats and I was surprised to see that his stats are better than half of the field, (I believe we had this discution before) so you are saying that half of the drivers in NASCAR are... "....NASCAR is somehow beyond him..." or in this case THEM....Just want to confirm what your saying.....but we can agree on the rest, Im not a Chip fan so I would love to see Juan in the new cars with Penske...lol.;..lol...if you don't know the Chip and Pensk history you should read about it is like cats and dogs.....I would enjoy that...better yet #22 in NASCAR....oh I would enjoy that...lol

Maybe saying NASCAR is beyond him is a poor choice of words on my part, but he hasn't given the kind of performance you would expect from a top tier driver. But then again with the exception on Sam Hornish Jr. pretty much all the top open wheel guys who were brought directly into Cup have retreated back to OW.

July 16, 2012  01:35 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

Maybe saying NASCAR is beyond him is a poor choice of words on my part, but he hasn't given the kind of performance you would expect from a top tier driver. But then again with the exception on Sam Hornish Jr. pretty much all the top open wheel guys who were brought directly into Cup have retreated back to OW.

And Hornish needs to go back.

July 16, 2012  01:42 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Looking at the points right now, Montoya sits 21st. 8 drivers have started the same number of races (19) and sit lower in the points than he does, and of those drivers I would say only Aric Almirola is in equal or better equipment, most are Start and Parkers, or single car operations with no technical sharing. Kurt Busch and A.J. Allmendinger are lower in points than Montoya, but they have only been in 18 and 17 races respectively.Now I use points as a meter because we all know any given Sunday even a top tier driver like Jimmie Johnson can blow a motor or wreck and have a poor result. Points are a better indication of a driver's season, up to the reset for the Chase.As far as crew chief go, the only comment I will make is that it was Brian Pattie that was JPM's Crew Chief the year he made it into the Chase, 2009. Granted their relationship might have been on the downside the entire time, but that is the only time JPM made it into the Chase.

You just proved my point ...one needs an experinced crew chief...true ?

July 16, 2012  01:49 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Looking at the points right now, Montoya sits 21st. 8 drivers have started the same number of races (19) and sit lower in the points than he does, and of those drivers I would say only Aric Almirola is in equal or better equipment, most are Start and Parkers, or single car operations with no technical sharing. Kurt Busch and A.J. Allmendinger are lower in points than Montoya, but they have only been in 18 and 17 races respectively.Now I use points as a meter because we all know any given Sunday even a top tier driver like Jimmie Johnson can blow a motor or wreck and have a poor result. Points are a better indication of a driver's season, up to the reset for the Chase.As far as crew chief go, the only comment I will make is that it was Brian Pattie that was JPM's Crew Chief the year he made it into the Chase, 2009. Granted their relationship might have been on the downside the entire time, but that is the only time JPM made it into the Chase.

Lets talk about AJ the most overrated driver in NASCAR who was promoted for reasons I dont understand by the SPEED channel and most of their broadcasters...now he has this problem.....egg on face for SPEED.........lol

July 17, 2012  08:24 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

You just proved my point ...one needs an experinced crew chief...true ?

I don't know what you mean here. Every crew chief in Cup has either been a Cup CC or a Nationwide CC, meaning they have experience. I will say that communication is key, that the driver and CC must know what the other is saying when they say it. Darrien Grubb is an experienced CC and he cost Denny and the entire #11 team the race on Sunday because of miscommunication. He even admitted it.

I don't know if you are saying Brian Pattie does not have experience either. Pattie helped to get the team into the Chase, and helped to make the #42 a contender until mechanical failure started the string of bad luck that ended their title chances.

July 17, 2012  08:38 AM ET
QUOTE(#9):

Lets talk about AJ the most overrated driver in NASCAR who was promoted for reasons I dont understand by the SPEED channel and most of their broadcasters...now he has this problem.....egg on face for SPEED.........lol

What about AJ? Until the second test comes back there's little to talk about here. With all the energy drinks, supplements, and other legal products people are taking these days, especially in his age range, it's no wonder he failed a test.

One of my co-workers talked one day about a former co-worker who drank 5-Hour Energy every day. He went to the doctor and found out his liver enzymes were out of whack. After stopping the 5-Hour Energy a few months later everything was back to normal.

Not knowing what they are looking for in their test, it is possible that AJ had perfectly legal substances, both according to the law and NASCAR policy, but there was some reaction, or number NASCAR didn't like. Remember this was at the Kentucky race, a night race. So it is possible AJ had an energy drink, a legal stimulant, to help stay alert for the race, at some point before the test and his numbers didn't look right.

I don't quite know why you seem to be rather obsessed with how SPEED covers AJ. Some networks have their drivers and make no effort to hide their bias. Look at Darrel Waltrip on FOX, I figure that man will have an on air heart attack the day Dale Jr, Jimmie Johnson, and Kyle Busch are all racing for the win in the Daytona 500. Either that or his head will explode trying to figure who to root for, on air, and yet be "objective".

July 17, 2012  10:27 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

I don't know what you mean here. Every crew chief in Cup has either been a Cup CC or a Nationwide CC, meaning they have experience. I will say that communication is key, that the driver and CC must know what the other is saying when they say it. Darrien Grubb is an experienced CC and he cost Denny and the entire #11 team the race on Sunday because of miscommunication. He even admitted it.I don't know if you are saying Brian Pattie does not have experience either. Pattie helped to get the team into the Chase, and helped to make the #42 a contender until mechanical failure started the string of bad luck that ended their title chances.

The Brian Issue was problably about them not getting along...is that simple .....so I'm moving on from that ...water under the track...lol,...I'm sure Brian will end up as a hall of famer...good for him...
Oh come on my friend you know what I'm saying a well stablished crew chief there were a few available and Chip did nothing..is all I'm saying...

July 17, 2012  10:36 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

What about AJ? Until the second test comes back there's little to talk about here. With all the energy drinks, supplements, and other legal products people are taking these days, especially in his age range, it's no wonder he failed a test. One of my co-workers talked one day about a former co-worker who drank 5-Hour Energy every day. He went to the doctor and found out his liver enzymes were out of whack. After stopping the 5-Hour Energy a few months later everything was back to normal.Not knowing what they are looking for in their test, it is possible that AJ had perfectly legal substances, both according to the law and NASCAR policy, but there was some reaction, or number NASCAR didn't like. Remember this was at the Kentucky race, a night race. So it is possible AJ had an energy drink, a legal stimulant, to help stay alert for the race, at some point before the test and his numbers didn't look right.I don't quite know why you seem to be rather obsessed with how SPEED covers AJ. Some networks have their drivers and make no effort to hide their bias. Look at Darrel Waltrip on FOX, I figure that man will have an on air heart attack the day Dale Jr, Jimmie Johnson, and Kyle Busch are all racing for the win in the Daytona 500. Either that or his head will explode trying to figure who to root for, on air, and yet be "objective".

Fair enough on AJ, but the folks who do the testing are good at this and from what I've been reading they are usually right, just ask Mayfield.....but lets wait, I'll give you my prediction, he did something.........maybe speed will give him a job ...lol...and I'm not OBSESSED with anybody..lol...they just give thst guy tons of expusure and he has done nothing in cup......Trevor, the Dillons and many others deserve more..just an opinion not an obsession...lol

July 17, 2012  01:28 PM ET
QUOTE(#13):

Fair enough on AJ, but the folks who do the testing are good at this and from what I've been reading they are usually right, just ask Mayfield.....but lets wait, I'll give you my prediction, he did something.........maybe speed will give him a job ...lol...and I'm not OBSESSED with anybody..lol...they just give thst guy tons of expusure and he has done nothing in cup......Trevor, the Dillons and many others deserve more..just an opinion not an obsession...lol

The fact that no actual drug has been named makes me think it was a numbers issue. When Mayfield was suspended it came out pretty quick that it was for meth, yet with AJ it is "a stimulant". Heck when other pro athletes get busted for a failed drug test, or arrested, it comes out through the media what the substance was.

I'll admit I watch SPEED for the Truck races and that's it, so I don't quite see/understand when you talk about the network's exposure of him. But then again it could be said that the other networks give guys like Stenhouse, Bayne, and the Dillions enough attentionso why not feature other drivers, or according to you driver, not being covered by everyone else.

July 17, 2012  01:46 PM ET
QUOTE(#12):

Oh come on my friend you know what I'm saying a well stablished crew chief there were a few available and Chip did nothing..is all I'm saying...

What "well established crew chief"s are out there? Most get shuffled internally into the race teams as "managers". Yes occasionally there are high profile names that do go into free agency, Darian Grubb, Steve Addington, etc. but they are usually snapped up quickly. Yes money is a leading factor of where they end up, but to imply that Ganassi doesn't want a good CC for Montoya is just crazy. And if it is true that Montoya is difficult to deal with it becomes even harder to get someone for him, and no amount of money could be enough to get a top tier CC work for the #42 team.

Granted all of this is speculations as I don't know the inner workings of NASCAR, or a professional race car team.

July 17, 2012  03:40 PM ET
QUOTE(#15):

What "well established crew chief"s are out there? Most get shuffled internally into the race teams as "managers". Yes occasionally there are high profile names that do go into free agency, Darian Grubb, Steve Addington, etc. but they are usually snapped up quickly. Yes money is a leading factor of where they end up, but to imply that Ganassi doesn't want a good CC for Montoya is just crazy. And if it is true that Montoya is difficult to deal with it becomes even harder to get someone for him, and no amount of money could be enough to get a top tier CC work for the #42 team. Granted all of this is speculations as I don't know the inner workings of NASCAR, or a professional race car team.

Of course Chip wants a good chief for Montoya as long as he can get then ON THE CHEAP...lol

July 27, 2012  07:37 PM ET

Good post AIYK, never thought I'd write that.

JPM good driver, but needs to work on avoiding those treacherous air dryers during cautions.

 
August 19, 2012  06:31 PM ET

Both Jamie McMurray and JPM need to get away from EGR.
I'm not sure that JPM would ever be Champion material, but he is certainly capable of better finishes than we are seeing.....I could see him making the Chase almost every year in better equipment......every driver needs skills.....good engines.....good CC....good pit crew and luck to succeed......JPM has fairly good skills only......the rest are lacking.

McMurray is fairing a bit better...but still not meeting his potential, for some of the same reasons stated for JPM

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