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As most of you know the voting for MLB HOF was released today an no one was elected, only the 2nd time in 40 years.

I'v heard a lot about who should get in the MLB HOF. Also about the steroid era and how some baseball writers sending in blank ballots. Some say they won't vote for those associated with PEDs.

Not all the writers will agree on who deserves to be in the Hall and neither will all the fans agree. As fans we tend to want our favorite players elected, but how can we know if they used. Rumors abound every day on did they or didn't they. There are players that are disliked my writers for whatever reason and won't vote for them, others don't want certain players to be 1st ballot electee, so maybe the process is flawed.

There are players I liked, Craig Biggio, Mike Piazza among others. We can't know who did and who didn't, so how do you make it fair. My suggestion is  to just put the stats in, if a player hits 4 HRs in a game that shoud be part of the MLB history, no hitters, complete game shut-outs, triple plays to name a few. Maybe some players weren't good enough for the Hall, but still managed to have some great moments. After all the HOF is a museum. Individuals don't have to be elected, just their stats or a great achievement, let the fans that visit the HOF decide for themselves if the great achievements were earned with or without PEDs.

Just saying, if you only put in the stats, you don't have to worry about the character of the player, or whether he was nice to the media, who cares. As an example, I didn't care much for Pete Rose because of his betting on baseball and as a player/manager could affect outcomes of a game, but his stats were clean as far as I know.

January 10, 2013  04:51 PM ET

It seems to me the business of sports has become a two-headed monster. We want our sports heroes to be perfect and accomplish miraculous things on the field and they want to make BIG money. In order to do that they look for any edge they can, whether it was the use of pine tar or corked bats or injecting themselves with PEDS. Keeping them out of the HOF because of this leaves me confused. BUT your idea of a stats section in the HOF Museum is a good one. Sure beats a * next to a good player's name.

January 10, 2013  08:08 PM ET

Pete Rose deserves to be in the Hall. Fine he had a gambling issue, but there is absolutely no proof that he ever attempted to manipulate the outcome of a game to win a bet. What he did was wrong and that's a fact, but he's been punished and enough is enough. All of us who saw him play know that he deserves to be in the hall. The whole ped argument is where things get tricky (for me at least) I mean there are players in the hof who used peds, all the oldtimers will tell you that players regularly took benzedrine or dexedrine particularly in double headers. How many players were getting steroid injections in the 60s & 70s when nobody thought anything was wrong with this practice? On the other hand the players who are taking them now are well aware that they are breaking the rules. Does that make it different? I don't know but I know that irregardless of what substance you take you still have to be able to hit the ball, and there is no drug in the world that can make you do that. On the topic of corked bats, did you see the mythbusters investigate that one?

January 10, 2013  10:46 PM ET

I have mixed emotions about steroids. Athletes are paid astronomical amounts of money to perform. If he gets hurt, someone will replace him. He can't afford to sit. Steroids speed recovery time. He earns his living with his body. Players will do anything to remain in the lineup. Bonds was probably the greatest player of his generation long before the steroid era. How many home runs did he hit before he began "juicing?" Pete Rose on the other hand gambled on baseball, and lied about it for 20 years, while the commissioner held personal checks with his signature. It was only after he saw his consideration for the Hall of Fame going away that he decided to come clean. Foxy has already written a blog, I'm just venting my frustration with the issues.

January 10, 2013  10:58 PM ET

@Mr Steeler, no I didn't, but I remember the hubbub back in the day about the corked bats and pine tar. I agree with you about Pete Rose. He never tanked a game while a player or a coach by betting for or against his own team.

One side comment....back in the '70s when I was working in Medical Records at Baystate Hospital one of the doctors who used to give me a hassle came in and told me that Pete Rose came in second in a best looking Cardinal contest. When I asked who it was that came in first, he said the rest of the team.

That doctor was pretty funny for a neurosurgeon.

 
January 10, 2013  11:09 PM ET
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@Mr Steeler, no I didn't, but I remember the hubbub back in the day about the corked bats and pine tar. I agree with you about Pete Rose. He never tanked a game while a player or a coach by betting for or against his own team. One side comment....back in the '70s when I was working in Medical Records at Baystate Hospital one of the doctors who used to give me a hassle came in and told me that Pete Rose came in second in a best looking Cardinal contest. When I asked who it was that came in first, he said the rest of the team.That doctor was pretty funny for a neurosurgeon.

You can probably find it on youtube The Mythbusters did the whole thing with corked bats and determined there was no advantage whatsoever.

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