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Just another nail in the coffin

As the big-league Cup drivers with their Cup level-prepared Nationwide cars continue their rape of the 'training' series it leaves little left for regular competitors. At Texas the Cup drivers stole over $251,000.00 in purse money that rightly belongs to the series regular drivers. Which, by the way was the lion's share of the total purse money.

The fact that Kyle Bush can drop down to the minor league and whip the up-and-coming drivers with top Cup level equipment and mega dollar funding proves nothing. In my mind there is absolutely nothing impressive abut it. It's rape, pure and simple.

Being KyB couldn't win with his own Nationwide car he goes to "Daddy" Joe Gibbs to run a car for him, a Cup car in Nationwide disguise. It's really quite disgusting. I can hear it now, "Please Daddy Joe, I can't win with my own toy." ByB is a top level Cup competitor, supposedly a grown man that is merely stroking his pee-pee. When it gets right down to it all KyB is proving is just how little a man he really is.

Some of my ideas and solutions to stop the rape: Dictate the number of races and at what tracks full-time Cup drivers can compete - like six total; No purse money pay-out; Not eligible for qualifying - they start at the back. I have a long list but will leave it at that.

I'll consider Cup drivers in the Nationwide series as soon as Will Power, Scott Dixon and the rest of the IndyCar drivers start running IndyLights events and when we see Vettel, Webber, Hamilton, Alonso and the others from F1 dropping down in league to run GP2 races.

It isn't going to happen, real race drivers don't compete in training series.

April 13, 2013  02:27 PM ET

I don't like the Cup drivers driving in the Nationwide series either.. but if they don't.. that series will be what the truck series is.. obsolete.. I say limit the number of total races Cup drivers can race

April 13, 2013  05:27 PM ET

I have mixed feelings about Cup drivers in NW races......I see the pros and the cons.

The best thing already fixed is the no points situation.

Using your ideas as a foundation, I would like to see the following changes;
1. the cup winner only get 40% of the winning purse, with a max of $100,000 and the rest should go to the top finishing NW driver.......which in this case would have been $151,000. (approx 60%).

2. since the cup drivers are using the track to warm up and for extra testing of the track, for the cup race, they should have to start at the back, in order of qualifying.

3. there should only be 6 spots for Cup drivers, and as said in #2, the last 6....ie) 38-43. if more than 6 cup drivers want to race they have to qualify for the 6 spots.

4. the above rules should apply to situations like that of the #88....Kasey Kahne is driving in many races for the NW # 88.....the fact that he is contracted for X number of races for JRM should make no difference.


Starting at the back spots and limiting it to 6 cup drivers per race, will be a good compromise..IMHO.
Not allowing any cup drivers or not letting them have any purse money would result in no cup drivers and would be harmful to the NW itself, as Wildfan said.

April 13, 2013  05:41 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

I don't like the Cup drivers driving in the Nationwide series either.. but if they don't.. that series will be what the truck series is.. obsolete.. I say limit the number of total races Cup drivers can race

I disagree the Truck series is not obsolete, in fact I enjoy those races more often then either NW or Cup. As long as there is no Ky. Busch to stick things up they are really good rough and tumble events.

April 13, 2013  06:22 PM ET

Some Purse stats:(Cup drivers wins in NW)
Total earnings from 2010 to ytd 2013.

Kyle Busch = $3,023,500.

Brad Keselowski = $2,867,505.

Dale Jr. = $503,500. (only races occasionally)

Kevin Harvick = $1,810,120.

Matt Kenseth= $196,865. (only races occasionally and not every year)

Kasey Kahne = $806,315.

April 13, 2013  07:06 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

I don't like the Cup drivers driving in the Nationwide series either.. but if they don't.. that series will be what the truck series is.. obsolete.. I say limit the number of total races Cup drivers can race

I don't see anything obsolete about the NASCAR Truck series. It's thriving and without the unbelievable massive increase in cost to run a Nationwide team. Not too long ago, before Cup teams and drivers got so involved a team could run near the front or mid-pack for 3-4 million a year. Now that cost is nearing double digit figures and exceeds that for a top five team.

Like I said, maximum six races and at what tracks decided by NASCAR.

April 13, 2013  07:10 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Some Purse stats:(Cup drivers wins in NW)Total earnings from 2010 to ytd 2013.Kyle Busch = $3,023,500.Brad Keselowski = $2,867,505.Dale Jr. = $503,500. (only races occasionally)Kevin Harvick = $1,810,120.Matt Kenseth= $196,865. (only races occasionally and not every year)Kasey Kahne = $806,315.

Thank you for bringing even more attention to my point regarding 'raping' the series of the prize money intended for the regular, up-and-coming Nationwide drivers. Can you imaging how helpful that prize money would have been for the regular teams?

What the Cup drivers have stolen is well over $9 million dollars. Tell me one thing that's right about that?

April 13, 2013  07:17 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

I have mixed feelings about Cup drivers in NW races......I see the pros and the cons.The best thing already fixed is the no points situation.Using your ideas as a foundation, I would like to see the following changes;1. the cup winner only get 40% of the winning purse, with a max of $100,000 and the rest should go to the top finishing NW driver.......which in this case would have been $151,000. (approx 60%).2. since the cup drivers are using the track to warm up and for extra testing of the track, for the cup race, they should have to start at the back, in order of qualifying.3. there should only be 6 spots for Cup drivers, and as said in #2, the last 6....ie) 38-43. if more than 6 cup drivers want to race they have to qualify for the 6 spots.4. the above rules should apply to situations like that of the #88....Kasey Kahne is driving in many races for the NW # 88.....the fact that he is contracted for X number of races for JRM should make no difference.Starting at the back spots and limiting it to 6 cup drivers per race, will be a good compromise..IMHO.Not allowing any cup drivers or not letting them have any purse money would result in no cup drivers and would be harmful to the NW itself, as Wildfan said.

In my opinion the "no points" issue is far from the best thing already fixed. Nothing will do more for the Nationwide teams than an influx of money, money they should be getting already. Many of these Cup drivers say, "I just want to race." Well, if that's the case, just race for the fun of it and don't steal from the little guys. Run for nothing, except the win. Keep the money where it belongs.

Give the Cup drivers $2000.00 in starting money or they can stay home where they rightfully belong.

April 14, 2013  07:08 PM ET

I have said for a long time that the cup drivers with their experience, have no right infringing on the people that are in Nationwide racing, and taking the Money they need badly, if they want to race in Nationwide let them but NO MONEY, let them flit the bill.

 
April 14, 2013  07:54 PM ET

Good to see you still around Sly!

The Cup drivers in NW, and Trucks for that matter, won't change anytime soon, the sponsors have too much pull within the sport. The best scenario I see is to limit the number of races the Cup drivers can be in either series. New Drivers cannot run in 10 races in Cup for the year if they intend to run for Rookie of the Year later in their career. I say do the same for the Cup guys. They can only run 10 races in the lower series. That way the sponsors win by having a Cup driver run in the race, and it keeps the Busch-wackers from winning all the races in the series. Yeah this is not the perfect scenario but it's an idea.

The problem I see with the no-money scenario is what about drivers who own their race car? The team is awarded the money, but as the owner the driver still gets money. If anything the no-prize money would cause drivers to show up with their own teams, most likely supported by their Cup owner, and we are back to square one.

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