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Do you need a Zillion fans in about one minute ?

Hire Juan Pablo, put him in a top car and you got a Latino and world wide fan base. Instantly!

A winning Latino in NASCAR is a marketing dream if is done right, Chip Ganassi was given an opportunity to gift NASCAR what they have been looking for- a large and economically stable minority market- but CHIP BLEW IT.

Chip Ganassi and Felix Sabates embarrassed Latino fans by placing one of their best driver in  a team not up to the stardard (and I'm being kind) of a winner in Monaco, Indianapolis and Daytona 24.

I understand some of those races were won under the Ganassi flag but that's what makes this so puzzling. How can an owner who is a champion in just about everything he does can't get NASCAR right no matter who drives or runs his teams.

Is that a fair question?

After listening to Felix Sabates media -justification tour- there is a few questions I like to ask him, I'll even answer it for him because apparently Felix is not paying attention:

Q) Was Martin Truex jr a sucssesfull Ganassi driver? What has he done since he left Chip Ganassi?

A) No, he was not a successful driver with Ganassi, but he has now become a top NASCAR driver.

Q) Was Brian Pattie a -Chief in training- with Ganassi? What has he done since leaving EGR?

A) Oh, I'll tell you, after refining his skills on Montoya's back he has become a championship type crew chief !

Q) Are these folks doing better becouse MWR is a better organization than EGR?

A) You decide.

AND by the way both Brian Pattie and Martin Truex jr are with a younger team than EGR. We can all agree Michael Waltrip has half the experiace of a Chip Ganassi.

He are a few quotes  from Mr. Sabates on Juan Pablo's departure:

"Sometimes you have to make a change, and hopefully you have that bad luck go away."

Mr. Sabates needs to wake up and realize that luck has nothing to do with his teams problems. EGR, Cleveland Browns, New Orleans Pelicans and the Houston Astros have one thing in common , they can't win anything, they struggle year after year and AGAIN it has nothing to do with luck my friends.They are just not very good organizations.

Here is a quote from Chip Ganassi earlier this year:

"We continue to work with him (and) try to get the most out of him.....If I thought there was a quick fix, or if I thought there was something we're doing ... we've put people around him, put other people around him and put other folks around him. We're not giving up by any stretch."

Put what peaple around him?  Did Chip put an Experienced Sprint cup crew chief around him?

What is Ganassi talking about ?

Actually Chip is right, Juan Pablo has been with FIVE different crew chiefs since 2007, Donnie Wingo being the only one who showed some experience as a cup crew chief.

Juan Pablo Montoya has been the guinea pig for FOUR inexperienced crew chief's, AGAIN not one of them was a Cup level player. (Pattie became one after his training program at EGR)

NOT ONE!

That's five crew chiefs in seven years , how can anyone be successful in that enviroment and by the way there were many experienced and proven winners available for Ganassi to hire and he decided to go with a crew chief in training.

Am I wrong?

Here is a quote that may put Montoya's NASCAR career in prospective:

"Ability is of little account without opportunity."

Juan Pablo Montoya did not have the opportunity to drive for a top five team in NASCAR. Period, I know the hatters will dispute that but facts are that if you want to win in NASCAR you got to drive for one of those folks, again, if you are a NASCAR fan you know what teams I'm talking about. If you believe differently then you must be drinking the Kool-Aid my friends.

One more question for Felix and Chip:

Q) Who got you the only chase appearance since 2007?

A) I let them tell you.

There is more to this story than Felix Sabates is telling us, he is just the hit man for the news cycle, isn't it funny that Chip Ganassi has not said a word about this.

Chip Ganassi has to be happy about saving all that money, putting Larson on that seat will cut cost significantly. I'm just guessing.

I understand the Larson  has a couple more years under contract with EGR. Nothing will change, the kid will run top 25 in the standings and leave for another team after his contract is up. Felix will be back on the air telling us some other story to justify their short comings. .

As a Montoya fan I'm very happy he isn't coming back to Chip Ganassi.  I've been preaching laud and clear for him to get out of EGR.

Montoya fans all agree that a driver with that resume should not be in NASCAR driving in the back forty sucking up exhaust fumes, he deserve better, he deserves an experienced team with an experinced crew chief rather than being the training dummy for -NASCAR's NEXT- big time crew chief like -AKA- one Brian Pattie.

Personaly I came into NASCAR  because of Juan Pablo Montoya, I have become a fan of the sport, so I'll keep watching my favorite drivers and keep writing about them, but now I have a new reason to watch and that is to see how deep in the field the EGR cars will finish.

I'll be pulling for last and I hope every Rodriguez, Lopez, Sanchez, Martinez, you know all those type of names do the same.

Look I understand people get fired all the time, it is part of all sports, but what I didn't like was Felix Sabates dog and pony show, he went on Sirius radio and sugested that he had great equipment and Juan or the team still could not do the job.

He most really believe he has a good team, maybe Felix and Chip should partner up with Michael Waltrip who apparently knows how to build a team.

A few words fron JPM's interview with Autoweek, by the way read between the lines, Juan at times will tell you what he means if you listen carefully:

Autoweek: What's on your agenda now that we know you won't return to Earnhardt Ganassi in Sprint Cup?

Juan Pablo Montoya:

I don't know yet. But what I told everybody is, whatever I want to do, it's gotta be in a car to win races. You need to be in a winning car, that's the No. 1 thought for me right now. What am I gonna do? I dunno. You know, one side of me of course wants to stay in NASCAR, I've put a lot of effort and time into it. But the No. 1 thing for me is being in a winning car.

AW: So what's been lacking to get to the point of being a consistent front-runner or race winner in Cup?

JPM:

If you look at the bigger picture, how many employees are at Hendrick [Motorsports]? More than 600, and we have 170. Somebody told me that there's more engineers at Hendrick than personnel at Ganassi. So when you're racing every week against them, yeah, you might have a shot a couple weeks a year because they screw it up and you got it all right, but being realistic, year-round ain't gonna happen.

My side note: This quotes from his interview tell it all:

"You need a winning car...."   "But the No. 1 thing for me is being in a winning car."

"If you look at the bigger picture, how many employees are at Hendrick [Motorsports]? More than 600, and we have 170. Somebody told me that there's more engineers at Hendrick than personnel at Ganassi."

Again read between the lines.

As always this is a fans opinion and from what I understand everybody has one and I thank God for that.

Enough said.


 


 

August 16, 2013  01:18 PM ET

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Nicely written and obviously a subject very important to you but you need to use a spell checker.

August 16, 2013  01:33 PM ET
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awnseraperentlysucssesfullbecouseINEXPERIANCEDsugestedNicely written and obviously a subject very important to you but you need to use a spell checker.

will do ........

August 16, 2013  01:38 PM ET
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awnseraperentlysucssesfullbecouseINEXPERIANCEDsugestedNicely written and obviously a subject very important to you but you need to use a spell checker.

I was at ESPN I would have an editor....,lol...thank you for the tip...

August 16, 2013  09:25 PM ET

JPM: I believe he is one of the unluckiest drivers out there......Luck is at least 30% of what a driver needs........a good car/pit crew is another 30%........driver skills 40%........JPM was operating at about 50% overall, because of bad luck, poor cars, average pit crew.....and I don't get the vibe that there is good morale in their garage.

McMurray: he is faring better than JPM because he has a higher luck % and seems to have a better team & crew.........I see him and JPM being somewhat the same in driver skills, even though McMurray has better stats.

DEI/EGR: DEI was failing on many levels and had become an embarrassment to the "E" name. When Ganassi came on board, it was hoped that things would improve on all levels.......that didn't really happen.......there was some improvement but not enough......even with EGR now using Hendrick engines, there is some slight improvement......however the lack of more improvement, tells me all the other weaknesses are still there.

The Latino market: asifyouknow, you hit the nail on the head right there....Ganassi blew an excellent marketing opportunity, exactly as you stated in this blog.

JPM's future: I hope he gets another Nascar Cup ride.....I know it won't be with a top tier team but it will give him a chance to show what he actually does have......I've always said he is capable of better results than we have seen........how much better?.......I am not sure.

August 16, 2013  09:40 PM ET

EGR vs MWR:

MWR started in 2007 and 6 years later, they have 2 of their owner's points in the top 10, with their part time, multiple driver car in top 20.

MWR Owners Points: #15 is 2nd..........#56 is 10th........#55 is 18th.....that is excellent for a 6 year old team, especially one that fumbled through Toyota's introduction to Nascar.

EGR Owners points: #1 is 16th......#42 is 23rd.......and they are an older team who had been using RCR~DEI engines and now Hendrick engines........they also had extablished, top rated Chevy experience on their side........Chevy has been a top performing make from day one........all this tells me is that EGR has a lot of failings aside from the drivers.

I think JPM is getting a break here.......it just was not going to get any better here for him...

August 16, 2013  09:42 PM ET

Ganassi needs to get out of Nascar........he just does not seem to give his heart to it like his does to his other racing interests.

August 16, 2013  09:44 PM ET

JPM has had issues other than equipment, crew chiefs and number of personnel.

Hit taking out the jet dryer sums up his NASCAR career.

Listen to the other drivers opinions of him. He doesn't have much support in the garage.

I'm not a hater, just realistic. Look what Kurt Bush does with the limited resources where he is...

August 17, 2013  12:15 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

.McMurray: he is faring better than JPM because he has a higher luck % and seems to have a better team & crew.........I see him and JPM being somewhat the same in driver skills, even though McMurray has better stats.

And McMurray doesn't throw his team under the bus when things go bad like JPM does.. when a driver constantly does that to his pit-crew its kinda hard give a full 100% effort

August 17, 2013  12:21 AM ET
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JPM has had issues other than equipment, crew chiefs and number of personnel. Hit taking out the jet dryer sums up his NASCAR career.Listen to the other drivers opinions of him. He doesn't have much support in the garage.I'm not a hater, just realistic. Look what Kurt Bush does with the limited resources where he is...

I agree.. when Kurt was having his problems.. he was bad mouthing his crew when things were going bad.. same with JPM.. he just has a 'bad attitude'

August 17, 2013  12:58 PM ET
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And McMurray doesn't throw his team under the bus when things go bad like JPM does.. when a driver constantly does that to his pit-crew its kinda hard give a full 100% effort

good point.......and I know JPm does that.

August 17, 2013  01:00 PM ET

While I've repeatedly said JPM is very unlucky, he is also his own worst enemy......and he does not handle his frustrations well......as UBP said, JPM has ticked off a lot of people in the garage.

August 17, 2013  02:02 PM ET

Read that JPM was saying in an interview that ideally he would like to be the next one in the #24......yes, Jeffy's #24......JPM was wondering how many years before Jeffy retires and it becomes available.
He was just wishin out loud.....but... I don't think JPM realizes what jeopardy he is really in.

August 17, 2013  07:48 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

JPM: I believe he is one of the unluckiest drivers out there......Luck is at least 30% of what a driver needs........a good car/pit crew is another 30%........driver skills 40%........JPM was operating at about 50% overall, because of bad luck, poor cars, average pit crew.....and I don't get the vibe that there is good morale in their garage.McMurray: he is faring better than JPM because he has a higher luck % and seems to have a better team & crew.........I see him and JPM being somewhat the same in driver skills, even though McMurray has better stats.DEI/EGR: DEI was failing on many levels and had become an embarrassment to the "E" name. When Ganassi came on board, it was hoped that things would improve on all levels.......that didn't really happen.......there was some improvement but not enough......even with EGR now using Hendrick engines, there is some slight improvement......however the lack of more improvement, tells me all the other weaknesses are still there.The Latino market: asifyouknow, you hit the nail on the head right there....Ganassi blew an excellent marketing opportunity, exactly as you stated in this blog.JPM's future: I hope he gets another Nascar Cup ride.....I know it won't be with a top tier team but it will give him a chance to show what he actually does have......I've always said he is capable of better results than we have seen........how much better?.......I am not sure.

He made it clear unless he can get a winning car, AKA one of the top 5 origination, he is not going to take it, that is what he should of done when he got here...He had the power then, NASCAR would of bent over backwards to help him get set up, but because of his relationship with Chip he got snookered...I think Chip really wanted in Indy cars.

Look, Felix is full of hot air, I don't think even Chip likes him, there is more to this story. Juan was not coming back anyway...You are right he is better off.

I hope he gets into an INDY ride with Penske that would really piss Chip off..I Don't know if you aware of the history between Chip and Roger, but there is no love lost there brother..lol

August 17, 2013  08:00 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

JPM has had issues other than equipment, crew chiefs and number of personnel. Hit taking out the jet dryer sums up his NASCAR career.Listen to the other drivers opinions of him. He doesn't have much support in the garage.I'm not a hater, just realistic. Look what Kurt Bush does with the limited resources where he is...

My friend reading your post tells me one thing, don't get mad, you do not understand how NASCAR works.
1) As all drivers he has his enemies. THEY ALL DO.....

2) The rear shaft in car his broke ..You may want to ask your mechanic the consequence of that.

3) Kurk Busch goes into a team with sponsor and gets equipment from Hendrick's a few years ago to RCR now. He is basically a satellite team with and EXPERINCED CREW AND CHIEF....did you read the article?
Look if you just want to hate , fair enough, but all your points are based on nothing.
lol...

August 17, 2013  08:03 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

JPM has had issues other than equipment, crew chiefs and number of personnel. Hit taking out the jet dryer sums up his NASCAR career.Listen to the other drivers opinions of him. He doesn't have much support in the garage.I'm not a hater, just realistic. Look what Kurt Bush does with the limited resources where he is...

2) The rear shaft in car his broke ..You may want to ask your mechanic the consequence of that.


SHOULD BE: The rear shaft in his car broke .............................

August 17, 2013  08:04 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

Ganassi needs to get out of Nascar........he just does not seem to give his heart to it like his does to his other racing interests.

Does not even go to races unless there no INDY...

August 17, 2013  08:10 PM ET
QUOTE(#12):

Read that JPM was saying in an interview that ideally he would like to be the next one in the #24......yes, Jeffy's #24......JPM was wondering how many years before Jeffy retires and it becomes available.He was just wishin out loud.....but... I don't think JPM realizes what jeopardy he is really in.

Do you know JPM is a millionaire and lives like a regular guy, he is chep...lol...so he races because he likes it.... he no longer need to race to make a living...Just like JJ ..DALE JR, Gordon etc.etc.

So I don't think he cares were he races as long as he gets a top car to do his work , hell he may even want a Gibbs Nationwide ride.

August 17, 2013  10:06 PM ET
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Do you know JPM is a millionaire and lives like a regular guy, he is chep...lol...so he races because he likes it.... he no longer need to race to make a living...Just like JJ ..DALE JR, Gordon etc.etc.So I don't think he cares were he races as long as he gets a top car to do his work , hell he may even want a Gibbs Nationwide ride.

I did not know he was well off.......that changes the whole image of him (ie) not desparate to get any ride he can)......... and that also explains his insistence for a top car.

August 17, 2013  10:35 PM ET
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I did not know he was well off.......that changes the whole image of him (ie) not desparate to get any ride he can)......... and that also explains his insistence for a top car.

F1 folks make lots on money......An F1 budget is about 300 mill a year...that is insane...Red Bull spend 13.5 mill per race last year on their championship run......that is crazy...The car is worth about 5.5 mill ..How much is JJ's car...lol

 
August 19, 2013  01:37 AM ET
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My friend reading your post tells me one thing, don't get mad, you do not understand how NASCAR works.1) As all drivers he has his enemies. THEY ALL DO.....2) The rear shaft in car his broke ..You may want to ask your mechanic the consequence of that.3) Kurk Busch goes into a team with sponsor and gets equipment from Hendrick's a few years ago to RCR now. He is basically a satellite team with and EXPERINCED CREW AND CHIEF....did you read the article? Look if you just want to hate , fair enough, but all your points are based on nothing.lol...

I don't get mad about issues on the internet.

Yes, I kinda know how NASCAR works, but I'm rather new at this sport. I've only been watching since the 70s.

Yes, some drivers have enemies, but most also have friends in the pits. Even though they are competitors, some are even very good friends. JPM is pretty universally disliked.

I've built a couple of race cars, so I don't need to ask anyone. Doesn't mean I buy that it was his driveshaft.

And as far as Furniture Row, they are lucky to field 1 car and don't have near the resources that JPM is crying about.

But don't get mad. Maybe you just cut Juan more slack that 98% of NASCAR does.

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