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Welcome to the 14th installment of Love it ? or Hate it ?..as usual we take a subject and tell you whether we love it or hate it..feel free to throw in your 2-cents. Humor us..tell us which subjects you love and which ones you hate.

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This week is going to be Love it ? or Hate it ? Retro..so let's go back in time and see what we loved or hated.

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The panel this week consists of Harry Callahan, i B4 e, It's All Mine!, Curly Lambeau and Packbrew42.

Our special guest this week is Cassidy's House.

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The word of the day is Surely.

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The first subject is Jerry Glanville.

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i B4 e: Love him.

 

The man changed the face of football as we know it. He was a genius who was way ahead of his time. The innovations he made make coaches today dream of being half the coach he was. I can't believe he isn't in the Hall Of Fame yet. Besides, how can you not  love a coach who always kept a ticket to every game reserved for Elvis.

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Cassidy's House: Love him.

JG was the next man in black since Johnny Cash.

Also loved his quote on the role of coaches: 

"We deserve no credit as coaches. We didn't have anything to do with it. I promise you it was all the players. We were just watching."

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Harry: Love him.

I used to love the guy for the sole purpose of cracking me right up at almost anything he said. I don't think he got the memo stating that he may be insane. His cackling nervous laugh when someone amused him is one for the ages.

Jerry quote: "N.F.L. means.. Not For Long.. if you keep that up"

He is very quick witted as you can see from that statement...Wow..how corny.

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It's All Mine!: Hate him.

 

I don't know why, but I just don't care for this guy. I mean, he coaches, and his team plays, and that's football. I think it's his scrunchy face. And his hair. It's GOT to be a rug, right? So, between scrunchy-face, and rug-head, I want nothing to do with him.

Oh, and the fact that he can't put together a winning season.

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PackBrew42: Love him.

 

I can't claim indifference anymore, but I have no idea who Jerry Glanville is.

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Curly Lambeau: Hate him.

Nice call on trading Favre, dude. How'd that one work out?

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The second subject is Billy Idol.

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Harry: Love him.

He had some good songs out at one time..give a listen to a song called " Cradle of Love" and tell me it doesn't rock... and hey who could forget him lampooning himself at the end of Sandler's " The Wedding Singer" drunkenly swigging from a champagne bottle in first class on the plane..egging Sandler on.. to go get Drew Barrymore...too funny.

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It's All Mine!: Love him.

 

I have some very personal memories that involve Billy Idol music playing in the background. Being very personal, I won't share these memories with you-all, but I will say that Ellen certainly remembers my special moves whenever she hears Billy Idol. At least she would if she remembered my name. She definitely would remember my name if she remembers me at all. But regardless of what Ellen remembers, or the actual truth of my prowess, I love Billy Idol.

"It's a nice day for a...WHITE WEDDING!"

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PackBrew42: Hate him.

Who is this guy? Sorry, but the retro edition is a bit too retro for me....too retro = prior to birth.

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i B4 e: Love him.

 

Let me clarify, I love his songs. The guy is out there, like on Pluto, but he has some killer songs. It drives my kids crazy when they are not paying attention and I go "ground control to Major Tom". They don't have a clue what I'm talking about. Just one more reason for them to think I'm nuts.

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Cassidy's House: Love him.

Growing up in the 80s he was just the coolest with that spiked blond hair and deep voice. Hot in the City is one of my fav songs from the 80s.

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Curly Lambeau: Love him.

 

I really enjoy doing the a-rhythmic fist pump as I sing "ay li'ul sistah...whu 'ave yoo dun? ay li'ul sistah oo's thu oh-nly wun? ay li'ul sistah shah'gun (shah'gun) wull i's a noice dae fo' u' u'whoi wedding!!"

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The third subject is Buddy Ryan.

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Curly Lambeau: Hate him.

 

Say what you want about him, but I'll grant you that the man took the NFL by storm with the 46 defense. ...that is, until everybody realized "oh, he's just going to send everybody at the QB. Okay, well then we'll just go max-protect and destroy Andre Waters over the middle."

He also had tremendous players to rely on throughout the entire successful portion of his career (Reggie White, Jerome Brown, Clyde Simmons, Mike Singletary, Richard Dent, etc. etc.). As soon as his talent got old, his defense no longer worked.

The reason I hate him, though, is really because of his ego. Defensive coordinators should never tell the press that they should be running the team instead of the head coach (the way he did in Chicago). Also, defensively minded coaches should never call out their offense - and particularly the QB - as being the reason their teams lost (the way he did to Randall Cunningham in Philly).

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It's All Mine!: Love him.

 

First of all, he served in the Army during the Korean war, which automatically prompts respect and appreciation from me. Add a Superbowl ring as defensive coach for the AFL Jets (I forget what year), and that he was the architect of Minnesota's 'Purple People Eaters', and a long list of legendary NFL names under his tutelege, he has a deserved place in football history. So he was in the middle of plenty of controversy over the years...so what? Who hasn't?

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Cassidy's House: Love him.

Buddy was the (ad)minister of defense. Who could forget that midget on the sidelines as one of the masterminds of the incredible D in Chicago and Ryan being carried off the field after winning the Superbowl?

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PackBrew42: Love him.


Love him ? See Jerry Glanville...he's a former NFL coach and that's all I know.

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Harry: Love him.

Hey who could forget the infamous bounty bowl with Buddy and Luis Zendajas.

Jimmy Johnson: " I have absolutely no respect for the way they played that game. I would have said something to Buddy, but he wouldn't stand on the field long enough. He put his big, fat rear end into the locker room."

Hey.. if you can rile up Jimmy i will get a few laughs out of it.

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i B4 e: Hate him.

No self respecting Cowboys fan would dare say they love Buddy Ryan. The punk put out a hit on a kicker for cryin' out loud. Only a low class schlump would do something like that. He's just a putz.

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The fourth subject is " Inside the N.F.L " hosts Len Dawson and Nick Buoniconti.

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PackBrew42: Hate them.


Who are these guys?

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i B4 e: Hate them.

When you put them together it sounds like some cheesy Saturday morning TV show about a wannabe boys band. "Join Len and Nick this week as they are torn over which brand of mousse works best on blonde hair". Just riveting I tell ya.

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Harry Love them.

Well let me put it this way..i loved Lennie Dawson..how could you not..just seemed like a straight ahead good guy...nothing bothered him..very low key.

Nick on the other hand would start to grate my nerves with his silent head shaking..while waiting to talk..when someone was making a pick he didn't agree on. He always got loud and dismissive.

One of the undefeated season players from the Shula Dolphins days..last year he was seen sipping champagne out of Mrs. Shula's shoe with the rest of the team and snapping her butt with a towel..as Don is passed out in the other room.

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It's All Mine!: Love them.

 

Really, I don't know anything about these two guys. The only reason I say "Love them" is because I naturally like people until I'm given reason to dislike them. You see, I believe that we all should be more caring and accomodating than people seem to be these days. If we all would be friendly first and combative later, this world would be a better place. So join me in loving these 'yay-hoos' until they give us good reason to send them hate mail. Amen.

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Curly Lambeau: Love them.

 

I never saw them on TV, but I'm a lover by default so, when in doubt, spread the love. That's what I always say.

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Cassidy's House: Hate them.

They are a generation removed from most NFL fans and the show got better with Costas, Marino, Collinsworth, and Chris Carter bringing in voices from the modern generation of NFL fans.

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The fifth subject is Phoebe Cates.

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Cassidy's House: Love her.

She is known for one moment in one movie basically, which has taken on iconic status. Now that I look back her boobs really were small and she wasnt that hot, but hey, back then she was synonymous with sexy.

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Curly Lambeau: Hate her.

 

Phoebe: In that movie, didn't she demonstrate a certain technique to her young friend using a corn-dog?

...tough one... I'm gonna' hafta go with hate her here. The point of Fast Times At Ridgmont High was that smoking grass and getting lots of nookie while you're in high school are good things. I disagree with that.

On the other hand, I think I saw a VH-1 "where are they now" special where she is a very happy woman now with kids and a fairly normal life. So... there is that..

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Harry: Love her.

Good lord when i first saw "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" i thought i was looking at the perfect female.

The water in the background misting and The Cars song "Living in Stereo" playing...just a classic scene.

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It's All Mine!: Love her.

I have some very personal memories that involve Phoebe. Being very personal, I won't share these memories with you-all, but I will say that Phoebe played a crucial role in my growth into manhood (Oh, stop it!), and it was all based upon that scene pictured above. Excuse me--I've got to...uh...go to the bathroom. Yeah. Be right back.

<Cue Billy Idol's 'Stroke Me'>

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i B4 e: Love her.


When I was young and full of raging hormones, well let's just say that on that part of the movie, the tape is worn out.

Today, myeh.

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PackBrew42: Love her.


Whoever she is, she looks good in that bikini...beyond that I have no idea who she is.

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And the sixth and final subject is Mike Tyson.

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It's All Mine!: Hate him.

 

Mike may have been one the greatest champs, but his spiral into insanity merely exposed his punk-a** attitude. He came from the streets, and apparently, he should have stayed there. I have no respect at all for any man who beats women. But one thing must be said on his behalf: The people who "discovered" him (Don King was the ringleader) just used him to make money, and didn't try to teach him about life OFF the streets. He needed someone to be his mentor, his tutor, his role model, as it were. But hey used him like a rag, and threw him away. Nonetheless, I hate the guy.

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Curly Lambeau: Hate him.

Yeah...hard not to hate Mike Tyson. So, yeah, hate him. IAM summed it up pretty well.

The only thing I'll say is, those who say he had no skill (*cough* i *cough*) were surely NOT paying attention. He had those lightning fast combos where he'd land five GOOD shots on his opponent before the guy even knew what was going on. You'd get the impression that, as the other boxer was laying on his back getting counted out, in his mind he was still on his feet circling around Tyson in center ring thinking "oops, looks like he's about to throw a punch. Better get my gloves up." And then he'd be like "...what? The fight's over? What happened? ...and why is my face all puffy?" Tyson was... dude would just LAUNCH himself into his opponents. ...scary talent!

...which makes his total inability to handle the rewards of his success outside the ring all the more tragic. In the end, though, it's like Bill Murray's character said in Ground Hog Day: "you make choices.....AND you live with 'em."

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Harry: Hate him.

 

What an ear eating freak this guy is..it's pro boxing not a back alley scuffle..if there was a beer bottle around he would probably smash it on the turn-buckle and stab his opponent with it.

I can't take away his great boxing skills before he went nutso..the guy was awesome in his prime...the perfect knock-out killing machine...or human Pit-Bull if you will. He won his first 18 or 19 Pro fights by knockout, 12 of them where in the first round...pretty tough to do.

If you were buying his fights on pay-per view, most of them were over by the time you cracked your second beer.

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PackBrew42: Hate him.

Hate him. Loose cannon to boot. I don't know about his childhood but it must've been rough. Great early career that went nothing but downhill...and quickly, thanks in part to Don King.

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i B4 e: Hate him.

However, I do love it when people try to say he was the greatest boxer ever because it gives me a good laugh. He was the greatest chump ever. He's nothing but a street punk. He has no true boxing skills. He has no people skills. He has no skills period other than hyping skills. He needs to be locked away in solitary confinement forever so he won't disgust us with his childish antics any longer.

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Cassidy's House: Hate him.

Overrated thug who could barely speak English, enjoyed the taste of flesh, and made Buster Douglas into an overnight sensation. I dont care how fast he knocked out Spinks, this guy was a horrible human being.

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JYOTI'S CORNER....

 

We have Jyoti on the phone today from the Hilton Arrowhead Resort Nagpur in India.

i B4 e: Good morning Jyoti..for my first question..Which do you like better, dogs or ducks?

 

Jyoti: Good morning IB..well that's a good one.. i like chasing both ducks and dogs but when i catch them.. the bite is usually less painful from the duck..sorry IB but i gotta go with the duck.

 

i B4 e: Are you tired of people making you pose next to things?

 

Jyoti: You know.. i get a lot of the " Stand next to that water bottle or stand next to that pencil " stuff but it doesn't bother me. I'm just a fun loving kid and enjoy life. Hey i can get in places and under things that other people can't.. so i consider myself very special.

 

i B4 e: How do you get into your bed?

 

Jyoti: That's easy..i  bounce up from a workout trampoline and i also have a grappeling hook as a back-up.

 

i B4 e: Thanks Jyoti..see you next week.

 

Jyoti: Okay IB..say hello to my Pier brothers.

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Well that's it folks..we hope you liked it..if not..as always..we could give a crap.

            

 

                                     This has been a Pier-11 production.

                                                        Est.1/2/08

                               

 

 

 

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