Fier Thy Words: Sports Edition
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It’s no secret that General Manager Omar Minaya is, and has always been, infatuated with Manny, as a trading deadline never seems to go by without his name being connected to the Mets in one way, shape, or form.

His divorce from Boston now official, Manny proved during the season’s final two months and into the postseason why he deserves to be mentioned among the greatest offensive talents the game of baseball has ever seen. 

The stats support it, but the argument can be made for the Mets signing him without analyzing them or picking them apart.

A World Series MVP and two-time champion with Boston, Manny has been a winner and has always shown the ability to produce when he needs to.

We all know about Manny being Manny and all of the baggage he brings with him.

His lack of hustle and more than occasional lack of interest plagued his final days in Boston, while his fielding ability has never been among his greatest strengths.

But anybody who has watched him play when he’s at his best, as he was wearing Dodger blue, knows that when properly motivated, Manny is an MVP candidate who will play the game the way its supposed to be played. Plus, the dude can flat out hit like nobody else when he’s in a groove.

A four-year contract probably hovering near triple digits sounds absurd for a player with as many issues as Man-Ram has dealt with (most self inflicted), but at the same time, nobody will admit that he’s a "bad guy."

He is, without question, one of the goofiest players to ever grace a major-league field, but he’s good spirited, and talking about the Mets, he would fit right in with guys like Jose Reyes and Ramon Castro, who love to have fun and joke around.

For what it’s worth, and I doubt many other Mets fans share in this belief, the Mets, should they sign Manny, would be smart to bring back Manny’s former Boston teammate Pedro Martinez for one more year, as the two were close and would only prove to be beneficial for the rest of the clubhouse which at times needs to stay loose, perhaps, ahem, down the final weeks of the season?

You want to argue that giving him four years would backfire; there are certainly cases to be made. Manny’s final three months in Los Angeles (playoffs included) were up against the end of his contract, so figuring out his motivation shouldn’t stump anybody.

In addition, he’s 36, meaning by contract’s end he would be 40, and believing that he would be as productive then as he was this past season sounds unlikely.

However, the Mets are and always seem to be in a win-now mode, and you can count on Manny putting up "Manny numbers" for at least another season or two. Plus, even if he doesn’t put up the exact same numbers he did in Los Angeles, the drop-off wouldn’t be severe enough to deter the Mets from going hard after him.

Committing another $40 million to Frankie Rodriguez and Manny sounds crazy, but desperate times call for desperate measures, and the Mets right now have more pressure to win than they probably ever had before.

The 2007 collapse was unacceptable and delivering a repeat performance in 2008 was just incomprehensible. Dramatic changes need to made in order to shake things up enough to make sure a disastrous three-peat isn’t achieved.

Rodriguez and Ramirez are proven, winning veterans who will not only bring a winning mentality, but a toughness the team has lacked since Bobby Valentine was in charge. 

The presence of a Manny Ramirez will impact the David Wrights and Jose Reyes, who both struggled down the stretch, as they put too much pressure on themselves to deliver the big hit night after night, yet failed to do so.

Manny has never minded being "the guy," and putting him fourth between Wright and Delgado, or whomever manager Jerry Manuel would insist on assembling a batting order would be downright scary and would provide Wright the sort of protection he needs to take his offensive game to another level.  

A possible 2009 Mets lineup could look as follows:

Reyes

Beltran

Wright

RAMIREZ

Delgado

Church

Schneider/Castro

2B (Castillo won’t be around, so maybe Daniel Murphy?)

(The bottom half of the lineup may be heavy on the lefties, but both Delgado and Church proved at different points during the season they could hit lefties, so that wouldn’t be as great of a concern as it appears to be.)

Think about the year David Wright would have with Manny hitting behind him. And think about the opportunities Manny would have with Reyes, Beltran, and Wright hitting ahead of him, all of whom score close to or more than 100 runs last season. 

If the issue is money, it shouldn’t be, because you can’t put a price tag on the foul stench that will hopefully fade away as Shea Stadium is bulldozed into a parking lot this winter.

For all of his baggage, and all of antics, Manny Ramirez in left field and in the middle of the Mets order would be scary for any opposing pitching staff. For everything Manny does being Manny, he also happens to hit, and hit well, especially when guys are on base, as his RBI totals have been stellar throughout his career, typically well north of 100.

They might be pricey solutions, but two of the Mets biggest problems would be addressed and a demoralized fanbase would once again be re-energized and would provide Citi Field with the type of inaugural season that Shea Stadium failed to receive during its final curtain call.

So to Omar Minaya, Fred and Jeff Wilpon, the message is clear and simple:

If you want to reassure your fans that the last two seasons were nothing more than a once-(or twice)-in-a-lifetime occurrence, open your wallets, get the checkbooks out, and bring in Francisco Rodriguez and Manny Ramirez and make the ongoing nightmare which has haunted Mets fans since the end of 2006 go away once and for all.

 

October 24, 2008  05:50 AM ET

Two players for about 40 million in one yr! 2 players when you got holes in Starting Pitching, Bullpen, 2nd Base, Outfield and Your Bench. Look i agree with K-Rod, he is in his prime and he's a winner with many more years to go on that right arm. Manny is probably the best hitter i have ever seen but to get both these players is insane when you have so many holes. I would get K-Rod, Raul Ibanez, Brandon Lyon, Randy Wolf and I would trade Luis Castillio and Money for Eric Byrnes, Send a package deal to either Baltimore for George Sherill or to Seatle for JJ Putz using chips such as Aaron Heilman, Nick Evans and Bobby Parnell. And for the rotation they need to get Jake Peavy. Say goodbye to Fernando Martinez and Jon Neise, its time to win, pitching wins games! Fernando Martinez will be excellent but with a Jake Peavy/Johan Santana/Mike Pelfrey 1-2-3, its a no brainer. Fernando Martinez for Jake Peavy reminds me of the Hanley Rameirez for Josh Beckett trade, and we all know how that worked out. Padres get their pitcher for the future and their future star outfielder who will probably be the face of the Padres if Martinez is what he's supposed to be. Peavy gets to be in the NL, pitching next to the greatest of the game today and will be pitching in a new ballpark for owners that aren't afraid to pay up when deserved. And as for the Mets well with Johan and Peavy it should be a Win-Win situation.. Oh and as for 2nd base if you can sign Orlando Hudson and if not get Daniel Murphy a new glove!

October 24, 2008  05:45 PM ET

I hate Manny, I like Manny. It goes against my better judgement but I would sign him, 4 yrs, $25 per. Now K-Rod I would pass on. With that amount of money you could get Brian Fuentes and at the same time pick up one or 2 other arms for the bullpen and kick the dead wood out. I think Pedro would be fine for 1 more season, he had a difficult one with his father passing away and the injuries so he never got on track. I just read that Daniel Murphy made All-Star in the Arizona Fall League playing 2nd base so he's right on track for next season. I still wouldn't trade away much of the farm. So many complaints about an empty farm system, why completely destroy it. A farm system means it takes time to grow. And keep Fernando Martinez, you'll need someone to take over center field when Beltran's contract is up.

October 24, 2008  07:34 PM ET

The Yankees will get Manny

Yankees Lineup:
Damon
Jeter
Arod
Manny
Tex
Nady
Jorge
Cano
Melky/Gardner/Free Agent or Trade

Pitching Staff

Sabathia
Wang
Joba
Burnett
Hughes/Pettitte/or Moose if he doesnt retire

Say goodbye to Pettitte if Moose returns

October 25, 2008  12:41 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

The Yankees will get MannyYankees Lineup:DamonJeterArodManny TexNadyJorgeCanoMelky/Gardner/Free Agent or TradePitching StaffSabathiaWangJobaBurnettHughes/Pettitte/or Moose if he doesnt retireSay goodbye to Pettitte if Moose returns

Typical yankee fan. Tex, Sabathia, Burnett, Manny, oh and the number 9 hole you even want a trade!! Look man this isn't fantasy baseball and since Joe Torre was thrown out of the Bronx it just isn't the same feel wearing pin stripes. I don't doubt you will get Burnett or Tex. But for you to say Tex, Manny, Sabathia, Burnett just isn't realistic my friend. And i bet if there was no Rivera you would say K-Rod to. Haha, i'm surprised you didn't say K-Rod for the set-up man role. And to say goodbye to Moose and or Pettitte, two loyal yankees, one of whom won 20 games last year! I wouldn't be surprised if they gave them both the same exit they did Bernie Williams. No class man, have some grip on reality, you need those type of players if you want to win a World Series in the new millennium. And i know what your going to say about the Mets and the past 3 seasons and the 2000 World Series and thats fine. But at least we don't do what you guys do to our kind. And as for Randolph that was different he's one of you!! Haha. Just playing around man, good luck in the offseason..

 
October 25, 2008  04:13 PM ET

Manny, Tex, CC AND Burnett? That would add 85 million to the over bloated payroll annually, the Yankees have already proven that an All=Star team doesn't win in the end. Arrogance is one of the 7 deadly sins and a lot of Yankee fans suffer from it.
Oh, and I think the 2000 Series would've gone a little differently if the Yanks didn't have Rogoid Clemens on the mound cheating his way to another ring. Or are Yankee fans ok with that too?

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