Good Morning, Good Friends
I want to go on record here in FN in support of some of the PT members, both current and former. With all the alters and avatar swapping sometimes we can get confused about just who is talking and who isn't. Without that sense of familiarity we can end up taking comments much too seriously... and at times not noticing just how mean some are as well. I know I have a hell of a time guessing who is parodying who more often than not.
For what ever reason, when two folks have their differences as far as I'm concerned the problem is theirs. KP, Pimpy and Homey... three amigos for a long time, have had their differences lately. I hope they can work it out and rekindle their friendship... but that is between them. I can't control how other members respond... but I can respond in my own way because the bad feelings indirectly affect me
I consider Homey, Pimpy, Bens, Se7en, RSB, becca, MDM, lcs, BC, GR. JFKJR and the rest of the folks here on FN that I have met over the last year good friends and quality people. Regardless of what group they belong to. I've been the butt of some of their jokes but haven't felt the sense of ugliness that I get when I'm confronted with the general all-purpose attacks from the truly nasty trolls. It's that quality that is the indication I use when trying to get a sense of who is making fun of my feeble mind.
Unthinkable as it is, even I have been nasty and will admit to over-reacting to a members comments at times. When Urnze, a member that I had honestly never recalled meeting before, took to grading one of my blogs I took execption to the words and manner of his comments more personally than I should. Mostly because **** at it and was defensive against what I saw as unneccesary and overly critical remarks. Especially by some guy I never even knew. I considered him a troll. In retrospect I was wrong.
But he could have been more upbeat in his remarks as well. Had we both handled the situation better we might be as good friends as I am with the rest of the folks in here. But I got nasty and he responded as anyone would have to my insults. With every right to do so. But honestly, I don't know Urnze at all. And thats the point. This is a virtual world. We reAlly don't each other at all.
Homey, KP, Pimpy and the rest seem to think he's a good guy. I have to respect their opinion and figure maybe I was more wrong dealing with our issues than I should have been. He seems like a bright guy and someone who could be a good friend and teach me a thing or two when it comes to improving my drivel. Maybe not make them shorter, but better.
Yesterday after I left the PT group there was an exchange between two members that was unpleasant. It was implied that once a known member dropped off, a troll that was insulting to Lady appeared. After a while the troll disappeared and The Jesus was back. Lady took to making remarks that insinuated, without foundation, that it was Homey behind the troll alter.
Homey was offended and to tell the truth, So was I. Homey has never been the kind of person to do that stuff unless it is in reponse to nasty remarks that were offered first. All of the folks I know here aren't that way. Its why I like them.
Other comments were also made to KP by Lady that suggested FERRELL, a good friend to her, was enjoying and taking part in a recent TD aimed at PT in which KP was parodied. I read most of the comments on the TD and, aside from being hurt that I wasn't mentioned as much as I deserved since **** the most, I saw nothing from FERREL that would suggest any kind of animosity or demeaning behavior. She was laughing at some genuinely funny jokes.
To suggest to KP that FERRELL was acting that way was wrong and only served to exacerbate a volatile situation. Remarks like those only drive the wedge deeper and are uncalled for. Squealing to other members and repeating comments is one sure way to prevent the healing this group of friends sorely needs.
This has nothing to do with keeping PT afloat. I could care less about PT... its just a title we meet under. This has to do with keeping the lines open bewteen friends in the hope they can reconcile. PT is second to that friendship as far as I'm concerned.
Homey and RSB directed some angry and completely legitimate charges at Lady and they were well said. I like Lady Love and consider her my friend as well. I have defended her in the past when I felt it was appropriate. But in this case she was wrong to say what she did. I hope she will take their remarks to heart and think about them seriously.
I don't like to lose friends but if I'm going to remain true to my beliefs with the rest of my friends I have to stand up along side of them when they are targeted unfairly as well. I don't qiit on friends but if one chooses to walk away then there is little I can do. The only side I try to take is the right one.
As a Cannata I can't afford to lose any friends as it is... since I don't have all that many to begin with.
Is there any of us who are so flush with friends that they can afford the loss?
I like everybody!
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You make some good point, but not everyone that have the same friends will always get along. Some thing should be said and when a somthing is said that hurts one person others may see it as funny or humorous. That's when the hurt one will think other friends are just as bad, because they don't think the same way. There are too many people on this site for everyone to get along everyday. Things will happen, but using alters or dupe accounts to mock other is just wrong and it doesn't matter who's friends there are. If the one being mocked is hurt or insulted that is the only thing that person cares about. I for one was disgusted by those going around as SmoothNslutty and mocking me and the PT group in general, and when they get their friends or (lackey's) to do the dirty work, that even worse. I understand that I can't stop them, so the best way is to just ignore it.
Foxy's Back
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You hit it right on the head. I'm glad that you've seen me in action long enough to know under what circumstances I would log an alter ego on. I save them only for reprisal and to create humor for all. my alters have always been originals too, not mockeries of existing members.
I felt quite irritated about the insinuation that I was this Ol' Dirty Beeyotch or whatever his/her name is and was compelled to reply in kind.
Time eventually heals all wounds. I think this only got so out of hand because we all tried to rush the healing process instead of taking some welcome breaks from here to let everything simmer down. We ended up only making the existing wounds worse.
Homey D
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^^^^^I understand what you're saying, but some people use so many different alters and variations of other peoples names it get hard to figure out who's who. That's when the finger pointing starts. If alters were just not used, it would save a lot of grief and maybe the wounds will heal in time, but it won't happen overnight as some wounds are deep. What some people view as humor, others don't, I hope you can see that.
Foxy's Back
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Nice blog Epoch.... a little too long (zing!), but otherwise weel written.
We can only hope that lcs's ADD will stay in check long enough for him to read it...
MDM
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Lady has been around just as long as Epoch and has seen me in action just as much. She knows better than to accuse me of being this idiot Dirty Old Bizzatch alter. She wasn't confused in the slightest. She knows when and why I use an alter ego on the rare occasion that I do and she, along with all the other original PT members still there, knows that I prefer the direct approach when I have a serious problem with someone. I've never been afraid to voice myself to Lady. Why would I start now.
Sandy, these were wounds cut deep before the whole alter mess, even before you were even inducted into PT. What felt like a halfhearted and disingenuous rush to heal left several, including myself feeling sour, disrespected, and ready to carry on elsewhere. And so we did.
Homey D
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Good one, Epoch, thanks!
Greco-Roman
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I won't speak for anyone on this site other than myself, but if alters just weren't used then people wouldn't be making mistakes about who's who. I understand how it feels to be accused of something you didn't do and and how it feels to be mocked by alters for no reason. Its more then just the alters too, the TD's are getting ridiculous and not about sports, but about PT and people in it. It's one group against other group. With the TDs going on right now people lap that up, especially if they aren't in either group. It just needs to stop.
Foxy's Back
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I got to the middle of the 3rd paragraph... then gave up... but whats new.
lcs_fire
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i'm so glad i have been busy for the last month or three.
i never really got caught up in this whole mess....until i got booted from pt.
that may have been an act taken by one person and not fully supported by the group, but it could have had full backing also.
the fact is, i was booted, so booted i will stay.
you can't un-ring a bell...
Houston Asteroids
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Anybody else steps out of line and I will boot them out of PT too!
Holier-Than-Thou
Palinville, AK
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Houston, your story reads exactly the same as mine. I have been working and studying more in the past three months than any other time in my life. I don't think I've posted 100 comments in that period of time and yet, I too am booted from PT. A place where I have been a member since it's inception.
I fought with no one and was crushed that I would be treated the way I was.
Just saying.
Drunk Eli
Huntington Beach, CA
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Homey, I apologize for coming to the inaccurate conclusion that you were using my hungry cat avatar with the screen name Ol' Dirty Bizzatch. I'm so lousy at figuring out who is who when alters are used that I never should have even tried to figure out who in the BALFMA group was doing it. As for the booting out of PT members, I don't know where anyone got the idea that I was responsible for it but I was just as surprised as anyone else when I logged on that morning and saw how radically changed the members list was.
As for the rest, when someone asks a question, whether of me or someone else, it's ingrained in me to answer it and when questions about the PT is Lame TD were asked, there I was with the answers as I knew them. It's a fault I have been working on unsuccessfully for some time.
Forgive me or not, it's up to you.
Thanks for listening.
Blessed Be
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Drunk Eli
Huntington Beach, CA
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Lady, I'll go with not since after so many months you can't even address me by name.
RedSoxBabe
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Damn do you people ever sleep?
BenS (Camo Hat)
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POWER. I love POWER. I enjoyed kicking you out of PT you worm!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
POWER!
Holier-Than-Thou
Palinville, AK
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