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One need not look further than the 2009 BCS National Title Championship pitting Bob Stoops' Oklahoma Sooners vs. Urban Meyer's Florida Gators in order to catch a glimpse of Bill Snyder's impact on two of college football's top coaches. 

Whether you're talking about Snyder the program-builder, or Snyder the offensive guru whose influence on the spread-option offense is well-documented --  quite simply, he's changed the game.  The good news is, Snyder's imprint will be long-lasting on the players he mentored that are now tearing it up in the league (like NFL stars Darren Sproles and Terence Newman), as well as the many coaches he helped mold over the years.  The bad news is, in the case of his former assistants, Snyder may be lining up his team next to yours at the onset of the 2009 season, as K-State recently announced Snyder's return to the program he built from basement dwellers in the late 80s to national title contenders and 11 straight bowl appearances in the 90s and 2000s.  

Let's take a look at Snyder's coaching tree and where Stoops and Meyer come into the picture, and what Snyder's comeback means to the Big 12's balance of power. 

Bill Snyder's Coaching Tree

Condensed Version of Bill Snyder's Coaching Tree for 2008

Bob Stoops takes Snyder's Blueprint to OU

In terms of architecting a winning football program, Stoops owes a lot of his tricks of the trade to the seven years he spent working on the sidelines under Snyder at K-State.  But the Stoops and Snyder connection goes much further back than their time together in the "Little Apple", Manhattan, Kansas.  Stoops played under Hayden Fry at the University of Iowa in the early 80s, where Snyder served as Fry's right-hand man on the offensive side of the ball.  After his playing days, Stoops served as a grad assistant at Iowa before a one year stint on Kent State's staff.  When Snyder took the job at Kansas State prior to the 1989 season, he brought in Bob as a defensive back coach.  Stoops was later promoted to Co-Defensive Coordinator (Jim Leavitt was the other Co-Defensive Coordinator), and played a pivotal role in what many consider the greatest college turnaround ever at Kansas State in the early 90's.  He was the defensive mastermind and fiery presence on the sideline complimenting Snyder's masterful game planning on the offensive end.  

Stoops became a hot name in coaching circles and was brought to Florida to run Steve Spurrier's defense.  After a national title at Florida, Stoops was offered the top job at OU, where he leaned heavily on Snyder's staff at K-State and brought along three of K-State's top assistants (Bob's brother Mike Stoops, Mark Mangino, and Brent Venables).  Stoops, with his gang of Snyder-trained assistants, brought OU back to national prominence in a mere 2 years, winning it all in 2000. 

When you consider Bob Stoops track record at OU, Mark Mangino's at Kansas, Mike Stoops at Arizona, and Jim Leavitt's at South Florida -- it's easy to see how Snyder has gained a reputation as a coach who grooms his assistants for future success.  It's also obvious why the American Football Coaches Association went to Snyder when they needed the person most qualified to write a chapter in the Football Coaching Bible entitled "Building and Sustaining a Division I Program".

However, Snyder's more than just a CEO who can manage a program, his area of expertise is really in offensive strategy and the play of the quarterback - which brings us to one more connection to the OU program that deserves mentioning from a historical perspective.  That is the lineage of recent Heisman winners.   Snyder's prized pupil at Iowa was Chuck Long, who is credited with grooming OUs Jason White and also recruiting Sam Bradford, prior to Long leaving for a head coaching gig at San Diego State.  Under Snyder's watchful eye and steady hand, Long won the the Davey O'Brien award as the nation's top signal caller and finishing runner-up in the 1985 Heisman to Bo Jackson.  (for the coaching gurus out there, check out Snyder's chapter in the Offensive Football Strategies text where he describes a few key points on his philosophy of grooming a QB).  

Urban Meyer takes a page out of Snyder's playbook in developing his Spread Option offense

Urban Meyer's highly acclaimed spread option offense is a variant that was largely inspired by Snyder's offense, with particular emphasis on the usage of a dual-threat quarterback in the running game.  If Rich Rodriguez is the father of the spread option offense, Bill Snyder is the godfather.  (Interestingly, both Snyder and Rodriquez separately developed their offensive schemes in the early 90s and deserve credit for one of the most exciting offenses to hit the college game.) 

The beauty lies in the simplicity, and a key innovation from Snyder was the read play off the counter.  This is how it works:  the offense would pull the guard and tackle and let the defensive end rush in.  Prior to handoff, the quarterback would read the defensive end to see if the end is chasing the running back, at which point the quarterback decides to keep it or hand off.  

Here is an excerpt from SI's Tim Layden, who has a great article on the resurgence of the single wing formation and it's impact on the spread option offense (click here for the full article):

While Meyer and Rodriguez would eventually become confidants, Meyer's most direct inspiration for his ground game came from Kansas State, where coach Bill Snyder had made a direct-snap running back out of quarterback Michael Bishop and contended for the 1998 national title. "I went out to visit Kansas State and saw what they were doing with the quarterback, and I came away from there amazed," says Meyer. "That stuff really impacted me."

Meyer would take ideas from Snyder and morph them into his own implementation of the spread option, at Bowling Green, then Utah, and finally Florida.    If studying offenses were offered as degree, Urban Meyer would have graduated with distinction from Snyder's Coaching U. 

There is no denying the resemblance of Tim Tebow's offense compared with the Michael Bishop-led offense of K-State when looking back at tapes of the 1998 K-State season.  When comparing the two on the stat sheet, the pass vs. run breakdown is strikingly similar.  

Michael Bishop

Michael Bishop (1998 Season)

  • Passing Yards: 2,844
  • Passing TDs:    23
  • Rushing Yards: 748
  • Rushing TDs:    14
  • Regular Season Record: 11-1
  • Heisman Runner-Up
  • Davey O'Brien Winner
  • Consensus All-American 

Tim Tebow

Tim Tebow (2008 Season)

  • Passing Yards: 2,515
  • Passing TDs:    28
  • Rushing Yards: 564
  • Rushing TDs:    12
  • Regular Season Record: 12-1
  • Heisman Finalist (and previous winner)
  • Maxwell Award Winner (both 2007 and 2008)
  • Dave O'Brien Winner in 2007
  • Consensus All-American in 2007

Snyder's Comeback

With Snyder's return to the sidelines, the question that begs to be answered is:  Can K-State once again help the Big 12 North re-balance the power that for the past few years has been heavily slanted towards the Big 12 South?

If the staff he is assembling is any indication, it doesn't look like Snyder is coming back with anything less than conference title expectations and getting the program back in BCS bowl game contention year in and year out.   One of Snyder's new top assistants is Andy Ludwig, who took the K-State offensive coordinator job prior to the bowl games but stayed on to lead the Utah Utes offense over Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, helping to ensure a perfect season for Utah.  "He's a Hall of Fame Coach," said Ludwig in regards to Snyder. "To work with him was the biggest draw for me."

What's yet to be seen is the recruiting class Snyder can pull together this late in the recruiting season. 

But for now, with the start of the 2009 season still miles away, all Snyder can do is pause for an evening and turn on the big screen for the BCS title game.  What he'll be watching will be none other than Bob Stoops, the head coach from Oklahoma who challenged his own offense in practice for years as his Defense Coordinator, taking on Urban Meyer from Florida, who travelled to Manhattan, Kansas years ago to learn that same offense Stoops was defending against in practice. 

By the Numbers

136 and 9th

# of career coaching wins and rank among active D1 coaches

# of BCS conferences with at least one head coach from Snyder's Coaching Tree (Big 12, Pac 10, Big 10, Big East) 

11 

# of bowl appearances at Kansas State

1

# of active D1 coaches whose team plays in the stadium named after him (Bill Snyder Family Stadium)

 

 

 

January 6, 2009  10:04 AM ET

Great article. Snyder deserves a lot more credit for his founding role in the spread option attack. It's good to see that Urban Meyer recognizes that.

January 6, 2009  11:04 AM ET

Awesome read, Snyder truly has helped to shape what college football is today and he should be recognized for such.

January 6, 2009  11:05 AM ET

Awesome read. Bill Snyder has truly helped to shape what college football is today and he should be recognized for such.

January 6, 2009  11:05 AM ET

Well done. The Legend returns...

January 6, 2009  11:23 AM ET

Bill who?

January 6, 2009  11:23 AM ET

Bill who?

January 6, 2009  11:31 AM ET

Yeah, screw KState and Bill whateverhisnameis - The longhorns kicked Ohio State in the teeth last night! Hook 'em horns!

January 6, 2009  11:36 AM ET

No doubt Bill Snyder has had a tremendous impact on the face of college football - but really, who cares? The Longhorns won another game in dramatic fashion and proved again why college football needs a playoff - Colt McCoy and the longhorns have taken OU, Missou, Oklahoma State, Rice and now Ohio State on and given them the business - oh yeah and they also embarrased their lesser in-state rival A&M - the one thing I will say is thank God Kstate wasn't on the horns schedule this year, b/c they'd likely have two loses if they did...

January 6, 2009  11:57 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

Bill who?

Bill "Architect of the Greatest Turnaround in College Football History" Snyder.
Yeah, its kind of a mouthful...but true nonetheless.

January 6, 2009  12:09 PM ET

Nice Article and well written!

You forgot one stat however:
Overall Record vs. UT:
KSU vs. UT - 4-2 66.67%

Avg Score:
UT vs. KSU UT 21.3 - KSU 33.8

Average Margain of Victory:
KSU - 20.5

Average Margain in Losses:
KSU - 3.5

KSU has only lost to UT twice by a total of 7 points.

Oh and the last 2 times they beat them were when they were ranked #7 #4 but good trash talking we enjoyed it.

January 6, 2009  02:00 PM ET

Excellent article. The time you took to research definitely shows. As a Michigan fan, I can appreciate Snyder and his contributions to college football. As the late, great Bo Schembechler once said when asked by KState AD on whether or not to hire Snyder, "Hire him, get him the f???- out of this conference." Quote courtesy of another SI article linked at:
http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1014486/3 /index.htm

January 6, 2009  02:16 PM ET

Todd Si. and trimhorn ... um, isn't this article / comment thread about Bill Snyder? Where did UT sneak into the conversation? But since you brought them up ...

As a KSU alumna from the pre-Snyder era (when we went to games only to see the band or if good teams like Nebraska or OU came to town) who has been displaced to the home of the Longhorns, I have to say that sitting in the upper deck of Texas Memorial Stadium on September 19, 1998 and watching Bishop lead the Kats to the 48-7 dismantling of the Longhorns was a great experience. (Particularly when the lane opened up for David Allen's punt return for a TD.) Two more great experiences: sitting in The Tavern with about a dozen other Purple-clad Kats and 200+ folks in burnt orange on November 11, 2006 to watch KSU beat then-#4 UT 45-42 ... then back at DKR Memorial on September 29, 2007 to watch the Kats beat then-#7 UT 41-21. All due to Snyder's brilliant leadership.

But since this is the day after the Fiesta Bowl, I'll give props to the Longhorns ... fantastic game to watch. And the props definitely go to Mack Brown, as I recall attending a UT game (pre-Big XII) against Rice or Baylor in a 1/2 full stadium, not because we cared about the game, but because we didn't have anything else to do that evening and tickets were available at the nearby grocery story for $5 each. Now Mack's machine has built and sold out a 98,000-seat, world-class stadium. Kudos where they're due.

January 6, 2009  05:11 PM ET

GEAUX KATZ!!!

January 6, 2009  05:11 PM ET

GEAUX KATZ!!!

January 6, 2009  06:12 PM ET

Once Snyder started taking out power brokers like Nebraska, Oklahoma, USC, Tennessee you had to sit up an take notice. In New York City where professional sports is dominate, Synder
drew our attention.

January 7, 2009  02:28 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

Yeah, screw KState and Bill whateverhisnameis - The longhorns kicked Ohio State in the teeth last night! Hook 'em horns!

really... you won by 3 with a td in final 30 seconds. By the way if T-tech victory is to be discounted because it was last-second (when UT talks about who should have gone to the big 12 title game) then shouldn't UT hand its last second fiesta bowl back?

January 7, 2009  04:36 PM ET

this is hilarious. Kudos to Snyder for developing some coaching proteges, but if anyone was paying attention in the 80s and 90s, Kansas State rose to prominence by scheduling the absolutely biggest joke of a patsy nonconference schedule possible without being kicked out of D1 and down to DIII, and built up a record by facing no more than 2 challenging games a year. That formula got them to bowl games, minor at first, then better and better as their faux records started bringing in some decent players. They pulled off a few upsets here and there, but never really did much when facing high quality competition from other conferences in big bowl games. It was mostly all a mirage.

Credit Snyder for bamboozling a lot of people, but obviously it works. Just look at Texas Tech and Missouri, who are now following the exact same model.

January 7, 2009  05:04 PM ET

Snyder's major bowl record:

1996-lost to #5 BYU in Cotton Bowl

1997-beat #14 Syracuse 35-18 in Fiesta Bowl

2000-beat #21 Tennessee 35-21 in Cotton Bowl

2003-lost to #6 Ohio St 35-28 in Fiesta Bowl

not too bad, but they won their games against lower ranked teams and lost the ones against higher ranked teams. He did win 3 Holiday Bowls, so hooray for that. I think his record against top 10 teams was terrible, looking for the stats on that. I found one that said he was 1-18 against top 10 teams in 2000, and I am sure that continued into the 2000s.

He had losing records against the better teams in the Big 12---Colorado, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas A&M during that time period. He was 2-2 against Texas.


In essence, somewhat of a fraud. Kudos to him for turning the worst ever football program around, but he did it with JUCO transfers, little attention to academics, patsy scheduling.

January 8, 2009  11:42 AM ET

Kind of makes me wonder what might have happened with Michael Bishop if he had come into the NFL this year instead of 9 or 10 years ago. He might have been quite a Wildcat in the Wildcat formation.

 
January 8, 2009  11:45 AM ET

Makes you wonder what might have happened if Michael Bishop had entered the NFL this year rather than 9/10 years ago. He might have been quite a Wildcat in the Wildcat formation. Not enough accuracy for an NFL quarterback, but more than most running backs. He could have been quite a threat.

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