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Although I long ago became a diehard OU Sooners fan, before that I went to the University of Wisconsin for undergraduate school.  The year before I arrived, the Badgers had gone to the Rose Bowl at the end of the 1962 season (I’m dating myself) and been beaten by USC in a close, high-scoring game (42-37) that went right down to the end before it was decided, thanks to a big Badger comeback in the 4th quarter.  During my 4 years of games at Camp Randall as a student, the Badgers began a loooong downhill slide out of contention.  By the end of my days in Madison, they were pretty much doormats.  Although I went to most of the games for 4 years, I never had much to celebrate about UWi football, so I really didn’t become much of a fan.  Michigan and OhSU dominated the conference.  The Badgers' next appearance in the Rose Bowl was in 1993/4, more than 30 years after their loss in 1962/3 – which they won in another close match (21-16) versus UCLA.  Their return to prominence that year caught my attention, of course, and I was pleased with their Rose Bowl win.

What I remember about Big Ten football was cold, often gloomy weather, conservative offenses in the “3 yards and a cloud of dust” mold so beloved by Woodie Hayes of OhSU, great halftime bands playing in extreme cold and snow at the end of the season, and big (slow) defensive and offensive linemen.  Michigan and OhSU dominated the Big Ten even more then than they do now, so I guess I learned to enjoy their rare losses.  Like now, the Michigan-OhSU game every year was gigantic, regardless of their respective W-L records.

I’ve come to appreciate those teams and those fans more as time has passed.  Perhaps they still are mostly conservative offenses (Purdue was and is typically a more wide-open offense than most other Big Ten teams) and big, relatively slow players at most positions (except sometimes at key offensive skill positions).  But it was great, hard-fought football with packed stadiums and a core of dedicated fans who stayed with their teams through thick and thin.  It wasn’t just about national championships.  The games were fought to decide the Big Ten champion first of all.  The Rose Bowl didn’t always go to the winner of the conference championship (decided by records, not a championship game).  Everybody played every other team in the conference and the best W-L record was the champion.  Tie-breakers were used when necessary.  If two (or more) teams were tied for the championship and one hadn’t been to the Rose Bowl the previous year but the other had, then the previous year’s winner was pre-empted to give a different team the reward of going to the Rose Bowl.  This was when bowl games were a reward for a successful season – not a barometer of team and conference success.  A simpler age, perhaps, but not a bad perspective on the college game.

This was a conference where football traditions ran deep – as deep as or even deeper than any other conference in the nation.  At the end of the year, traditional rivalries decided the holder of the rivalry trophies:  the Old Oaken Bucket (Purdue and Indiana), the Little Brown Jug (Minnesota-Michigan), Paul Bunyan’s Axe (Minnesota-Wisconsin).  These are games where the rankings and records of the teams don’t mean very much and most anything can happen.  It’s fun and not necessarily all about the almighty dollar.

Looking back, I like the college football atmosphere in the Big Ten.  College football is a lot more than National Championships.  Winning it all doesn't mean everyone else is a loser.  Conference games aren’t just a part of the schedule.  They’re what matters most to those Big Ten teams.  This year, the Big Ten had a pretty dismal bowl season (1-6), but the bowl games they participated in had excellent attendance.  Apparently, the Big Ten fans travel well.  This is my kind of fan.  Disappointed with losses but staying faithful to their teams.  They love to go to the games and participate in all the atmosphere and excitement of live college football.  If you haven’t been a part of it, chances are you don’t get it and likely never will get it.  Your loss.

As luck would have it, my first "friends" on FN include some Big Ten fans.  I think we have similar perspectives on the game, if not identical loyalties.  We can disagree and still respect one another.  Perhaps that perspective comes from a shared heritage.  Anyway, when OU plays a Big Ten team, I’m not rooting for the Sooners’ opponent, but I won’t be trash-talking about them, either.  I respect those teams and those fans (except for the fans who are classless, of course)
January 16, 2009  12:20 PM ET

Good blog. I always appreciate someone's willingness to express their love for college football and all its traditions.

I too can date myself by remembering quite well the Rose Bowl game after the 1962 season, with the Wisconsin passing duo of VanderKellen to Richter and the USC quarterback Pete Betheard. One of the most memorable Rose Bowl's of all time.

Growing up in the South I have a slightly different perspective. I can appreciate the old rivalries and traditions of the Big 10, but living among so many transplants from the MidWest, I was constantly defending southern football because most of them hardly knew it existed. At the time to compare a Georgia or Auburn or Florida to Michigan would get you laughed in the face. Believe me, this was the truth, and it went on for years and decades after the realities of the situation should have taken hold with them. I sometimes think our friend Arbi(I think you know who I mean ) must have had a similar background, but perhaps didn't accept it so well.

I enjoy our differences as long as people can still respect one another, and show some class. From your writings I can see that you agree with that.

January 16, 2009  02:57 PM ET

Nice blog TB! Hey I just want to take this opportunity to tell you that my comment to your "Argument" blog was purely in jest. That was a great blog including the paragraphs in between the first and last.

January 16, 2009  05:35 PM ET

Thanks, Norka. I've read enough of your posts gave me a clue not to be offended.

JP, you bring up a good point. For a long time, Big Ten football was at the top of the heap, or near it, and some of their fans considered the football traditions of other parts of the country as inferior. That was also wrong, but now the roles are reversed. Regional football superiority is temporary, like everything else. Be proud of your successes but be prepared for some down times. And I'm impressed that someone besides me remembered VanderKellen and Richter.

January 16, 2009  09:16 PM ET

I'm not that old so i don't remember those Rose Bowl's, but I did go to the Fiesta bowl and one Rose Bowl when the Longhorns came back from 14 to beat Michigan a game that i think if Carr wouldn't of called time out twice to ice Mangum's FG they might of won. But thats not my point my point is the Big 10 is class your fans are some of the most loyal fans I have seen a Buckeye fan came up and shook my hand and nice conversations were exchanged through the game, with their hearts ripped out at the end of the Fiesta bowl they could still smile and congradulate Texas fans on a great game. That never happens at the Cotton Bowl.

January 16, 2009  10:20 PM ET

Good blog. It's nice to see other Badger fans out there. While I'm not a student at UW-Madison, I am a student at another UW system school It's always fun to go to the Camp for some football games. Also, as weird as this sounds, I love hearing stories from some of the older Badger fans out there, it helps me appreciate the current state of the football team, and the athletic program as a whole.

I love Big Ten football, the passion, the pride..some absolutely incredible atmospheres to watch football games in.

 
January 21, 2009  06:02 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Good blog. It's nice to see other Badger fans out there. While I'm not a student at UW-Madison, I am a student at another UW system school It's always fun to go to the Camp for some football games. Also, as weird as this sounds, I love hearing stories from some of the older Badger fans out there, it helps me appreciate the current state of the football team, and the athletic program as a whole. I love Big Ten football, the passion, the pride..some absolutely incredible atmospheres to watch football games in.

Are you sure Wisconsin is inthe Big 10?

I don't seem to remember that.

Let me count... PSU, OSU, Mich, MSU, Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, NW, Iowa, and Minnesota makes 10.

Big 10. 10 teams.

I am pretty sure WIsconsin isn't in the Big 10, otherwise they would call it the Big 11.

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