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  • 09:19 AM ET  03.25
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I just finished reading a blog that bemoaned the decline in the quality of the Throwdowns here on FN. The guy feels that TD's are no place for opinions. Readers should vote on the quality of the arguments regardless of how they feel. If they want to express an opinion they should go out to the threads. That's what they're there for.

He blames the "newbies" for the decline and for the lack of participation of the "Old Timers". He believes that members should judge the topic strictly on the merits of the facts presented in a TD. He thinks people have no business voting on a TD unless they follow his logic. Of course... he's not expressing an opinion when he states such BS. He is stating a widely known and undisputed fact... one he made up... but a fact in his mind never-the-less

Obviously the user thinks that throwdowns are the realm of "Those Who Know Their Sports Stuff!!" What a joke!!

When I first joined FN I checked out the TD's. By and large they were stupid, poorly written verbal jousts between serious homers with even more serious personal bias when it came to the topic. TD's often feature such classic and timeless topics as "Peyton Manning is greater than any other QB from the 1930's" or "Tom Brady will have 5 more basterd children before he wins his next superbowl."

After reading the arguments both pro and con, many wise and insightful ding-a-lings are inspired to respond and spout all kinds of ridiculous OPINIONS that they insist are undeniabley correct and that none would dispute unless you're a complete idiot... or a fan of a team other than the one they rooted for. Something I always found amusing at best and absolutely ludicrous at times.

FN users and sports fans in general often mistake their own personal views as absolute facts and think anyone who doesn't share their view is a total moron. Just look at all the lunatics that have already crowned, Kobe "It's all about me" Bryant, as the greatest basketball player that ever was or will be. Kobe in his prime can beat any other player ever in their prime and that's a fact... at least if you come from LaLa-Land anyway. Even more embassasing when you consider that a guy named Magic Johnson, a legitimate candidate for the greatest of all time, in my opinion, came from the same town.

To "Old Timers" like me Kobe couldn't hold a candle to Magic... and. IMHO, that's a fact, Jack!

The problem with sports is that a lot of people put a lot of stock into statistics. They base their views on a players averages for a year or a career to make their argument seem valid. They disregard the results when they don't jibe with their stats.

Wilt Chamberlain won about every individual scoring and rebound title to be had. He once AVERAGED 50 points and 25 rebounds in a single season. He led the league in assits.. something unheard of for a center in this day and age. He was the ultimate nemesis for Bill Russell and the Boston Celtics.

In the end, while winning few if any individual honors, Bill Russell won 13 championships.

In my opinion Bill Russell was by far the better player. You can take all the awards and scoring titles and stick them where the sun don't shine. This is a case where the facts just don't add up.

Much like the average TD. To which I am sure most TD'ers would respond...

OH YEAH!!! SAYS YOU, BUDDY!!!

March 25, 2009  12:18 PM ET

Good blog and good point. I get the idea of competitive argument and banter but only a few of those TD's are actually well structured and argued. So many are just one line statements to why they feel the way they feel, with no argument of support whatsoever.

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March 25, 2009  02:13 PM ET

I don't TD but I'd hate to disappoint a friend so here goes.

OH, YEAH!!! SAYS YOU, BUDDY!!!

March 25, 2009  02:18 PM ET

Nice blog, Epoch, we miss you!

March 25, 2009  04:51 PM ET

I've only done 3 (one forfeit and two friendly challenges with DJ) and honestly that's enough for me. I'll leave that TD stuff to everyone else. I just check some of them out for a good laugh because some of them are funny. Whether intentional or not.

March 25, 2009  09:59 PM ET

If people want to TD, let them.

I've done close to 200 TDs, and I realize that best 'arguments' dont always win. Even with that happening, I still enjoy TDing and arguing against people's view of teams/players in general, win or lose.

TDs are not the end of the world, lets not make it sound like they are.

 
April 9, 2009  05:27 PM ET

I assume you're counting Russell's championships at USF.
CHAMBERLAIN RULES, DUDE.
Seriously, I don't really need to point out Bill's usually superior teammates, the fact that he had the best coach of his day? Wilt did win two championships, putting up what were at the time the two best records in the history of the NBA, as well as a 33-game winning streak. Rules were changed to slow him down.
I think he got laid more, too.

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