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Michael Ray Garvin is the man! As a Noles fan Iliked him, now after reading his patient responses to your rather antagonistic doubting, I like him so much more. And Mike, one thing about questioning God. If He's real, and He knows everything, unlike us mere mortals, why would you even begin to try to analyze His way of thinking and actions? With our limited knowledge and inability to see what hasn't yet happened, it's foolish to try and second-guess the methods of an all-knowing Being. Just because something seems a certain way now doesn't mean it's not part of a bigger plan. Something that we're not capable of seeing the end results of. How could the creation expect to understand the Creator? As someone who searches for facts and evidence, you should be able to grasp this concept. One last thing. You'd better hope Garvin's wrong. And there's two reasons why. One, if he's right, you're wrong, and the eternal fate of your soul would be in jeopardy. Two, if God does love us that much, you're not open to receiving the greatest Gift anyone could hope for - the loving guidance of a perfect and all-knowing God.

Also how can you say the 4 Gospels don't agree on anything and merely contradict each other? This is a very rash statement. Sounds like someone isn't personally familiar with the Word, just like MRG said. I'm willing to discuss anything that seems like a contradiction in the Bible with you. Not saying I can change your mind on anything, but I certainly believe the Bible is God's Word and was divinely inspired, and therefore does not contain any contradictions. Now we are finite in our reasoning and understanding, and by simply picking random pieces of the Word we can't expect to have a thorough understanding of all of it, which could lead to confusion and hasty labels of contradiction. I'm willng to wager you've never read the Good Book objectively, and with a passion and willingness to seek out what the Living God has to say to us. If you look at it with and attitude already against it when you start reading, of course you can fool yourself into seeing whatever you want to. The Bible itself says "here a little and there a little". There are principles of how the Lord operates. Once we have learned some of these principles, we will be able to better understand his implied meaning in His Words.

Sorry to keep posting on here, but I can't let it go. Science doesn't disagree with the Word. You just have to dig a little deeper instead of repeating common arguments you've heard other non-believers toss out there. And to answer your question about the Book of Exodus, it's not like God just came unexpectedly in that particular scenario and started killing children. There were warnings, and that was the 10th plague. Meaning there were 9 others before it. I think after the first 9 plagues the Pharaoh should have had an inkling of an idea to let the Lord's people go. Thats what you're talking about here. 9 times the Pharaoh declined to free the Israelites, and different things happened as a consequence. The 10th time God meted judgement onto the Egyptians was the first-born son ordeal. Also the Egyptians were keeping the Israelites as slaves. Not exactly model citizens God was dealing with. Believe me. With a mind for reverential study of the Word of God, you don't have to throw out any passages of the Bible. I agree, that would be cheating and very cheap. It's also underhanded and un-informed on your part to suggest that as a Christian, that's what we have to do to make sense of the Word.

As far as evidence of Jesus Christ and historical proof of events in the Bible having really happened, I suggest you look at the Shroud of Turin. Learn about the holographical images which to this day no scientist has ever been able to duplicate. The image of Jesus on that sheet is a one of a kind artifact. There's nothing like it in the rest of the world. This isn't my opinion, it's a fact. This particular artifact has been researched by the brightest scientific minds in the world. More time has been spent on it than perhaps any other single object. and they've never been able to duplicate the type of image represented on the Shroud. This indicates we're dealing with something super-natural. Something called the Resurrection.

And to say we have nothing but faith!! Faith is obviously a phenomenon of which you know nothing about! To be critical of someone for grasping something which you have failed to do is very narrow-minded, and reflective of a less than stellar understanding of things which are not obvious to you. Like MRG said, perhaps you should spend more time in the Word. The Bible plainly states, "Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God." Without a fundamental understanding of the Word of God it's impossible for you to grasp the intracacies of the Word, and of faith. Therefore you would be in a position of making rationalizations about something which you are not qualified to be making judgements on. Again, I invite you to respond or leave a comment on my user page on FN or something. You seem to have somewhat of an interest in searching for answers, and wherever you've got your "answers" on Christianity was a source of half=truths and if I dare say, lies. Misinformation will only feed your confusion on the existence and greatness of our Heavenly Father. It's a shame that so many people cast a walk with God to the side because they have not been taught what Christianity can really be, and what the Word can do for you. I'm not saying all Christians are good people. Far from it. I understand the Crusades were a terrible, terrible thing. They were also contrary to the Word of God and the Nature of God. But to leave your experience with Christianity at that would be to sell yourself short. There's so much that is misconstrued about God and the Word I can't even begin to list examples here, which is why I encourage you to contact me, or at least re-read the Bible, and not through eyes jaded with dis-belief, but with an open heart and an open mind. If you are sincere, the Lord will meet with you and show revelations to you beyond anything I can mention here. I know, because He did it for me!