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When Tony Gwynn was elected to the Hall of Fame last week it got me thinking about who my absolute favorites are (or were), the athletes who played their games right. Most of them stayed a long time, some of them not nearly long enough. They came to us full of talent and youth and adjusted over the years as their bodies changed. You know who I mean. Yours are different than mine for sure but they're the athletes who make you glad to be a sports fan.

Tony Gwynn is one of them, very, very high on my baseball list. Now I've lived my whole life on the East Coast--and have the New Yawk accent to prove it--so I didn't get to see Tony in person too many times. But we watched him every chance we got. And each time you saw him, he did something worth seeing-taking an extra base, getting a big hit, throwing a runner out at third. His career batting average was .338 so he could hit; did you remember that he had his greatest individual season at age 37 (.372 BA, 17 homers, 119 RBI, 220 hits) at a time when his body was getting rounder, his speed in decline and his team pretty awful? I didn't remember that and now I'm glad I checked.

Being on the left coast, Gwynn didn't really get the attention, particularly on the right coast, that he deserved over the years. He certainly didn't get the attention his peers did--Wade Boggs, Don Mattingly, Cal Ripken. You know what? He was the best of the bunch. Don't agree? Tell us why.

So who else do I put on my "I'm Glad I'm a Sports Fan Because I Get to Watch Them Play" list?

Well, Mattingly for one. He'll never get to the Hall, and he probably shouldn't because his career was too shortened by his bad back. (Didn't stop Ralph Kiner from getting in, but that's for another day.) But Mattingly was what I'm talking about. He came up a line drive hitter and as he got bigger and stronger, he became a power guy with an RBI instinct. It probably was the years of his too early decline, however, that really sealed the deal with him. His back was bad, his power diminishing and he knew his career wouldn't last long. So he cut his stroke and kept his on-base percentage high as his slugging percentage diminished and his dignity grew. And then at 34 he was gone.

There are more in baseball, of course, but that's your thought starters. This post originated from my comment on a blog from Nationista Shaun Fagan who gave a list of his all-time numbers team. I commented on the numbers you'd never want to wear because certain guys did (No. 25 jumped to mind) and thought that might be the topic for this week. But let those guys go. We're here today to praise those that earned our praise.

Are these guys the best of the best? Maybe a few. Doesn't really matter though.

In basketball I give you Willis Reed and John Havlicek with a big helping of Wes Unseld thrown in. Willis and Wes played against each other from the late 60s through the early 70s before Willis's Knicks' career ended far too early. Willis was talented but not by real comparison to some of his day. But his heart and his brains made you glad to be a Knick fan and make me still care about the team during these awful days of Isiah Thomas. For too many the memory of Willis is only his miraculous appearance in Game 7 of the 1970 NBA Finals (when he scored only the first 4 points of the game; a more important 4 points have never been scored.) But Willis was more than that. One memory probably violates many of the opinions already expressed in this blog. It's of Willis basically taking on almost the whole Los Angeles Lakers team in an on-court fight very early in his career that announced to the sports world that this team was not going to be pushed shoved and ignored. Probably the last fight Willis had on the court and if you saw it, you'd know why. 

Havlicek still hasn't stopped running hustling, stealing the ball and playing it right and he hasn't been in the NBA since 1978. And Unseld played center for 13 seasons, giving away lots of inches and pounds and shooting skills but nothing in heart and brains.

Hockey's got a lot of guys like these and spending six years working closely with so many of those players, I can say that with certainty. But my Gwynn, my Willis, my Mattingly from hockey would have to include No. 4 of the Boston Bruins. Name needed? Bobby Orr. The single best athlete in his sport I ever saw. Better than Gretzky, better (again this is my opinion so hold the rifles) than Jordan, better even than Jim Brown. He dominated as an individual in a team sport and made his team and teammates better. Every night. Every game. But for far too few seasons.

I put Stevie Yzerman on this list, too, playing with dignity and skill and leadership while he waited and waited and waited for his team to get good enough to win a Stanley Cup. And then they did. Three times. No one, I mean no one, wasn't happy for Stevie Y.

Before you think this old guy blogger has no one from today's games, I give you Martin Brodeur and Teemu Selanne. Brodeur started great as the Devils goalie in 1993 and hasn't stopped. His consistency and attitude are pleasures still. 

Quick story: late one season two of the reporters covering the Devils had a loud and public shouting match for all to see before a game. As the game was about to begin, the reporters, one male one female, were standing near the tunnel bringing the Devils onto the ice for a playoff game. Brodeur, leading his team out for his  big game, wearing all of his goalie gear, mask already in place, stopped his march to the ice, pulled his mask up and waved a finger at the two warring correspondents; "Now, you two be nice." And then he went out and mastered his game.

Teemu arrived in the NHL with the single greatest rookie season a team athlete ever had (really: 76 goals, 76 assists but he did it in Winnipeg so you don't know about it). Then he hurt his knee and his speed diminished.  But he got his game back, starred for the Mighty Ducks and then he got hurt again playing in San Jose and then later with Colorado. And he got his game back. He's an All-Star again this season playing back in Anaheim and he's playing at nearly a 50-goal pace. And this is 14 years after that amazing rookie season.

And since football's all we are really talking about (most of us at least) my picks for football: Johnny Unitas, Gale Sayers, Walter Payton (no, I'm not a Bears fan just a fan of their greatest running backs), Phil Simms and Harry Carson. I had thought LaDainian Tomlinson might make it but I'll put him to the side while deciding if his whiny act after losing to the Patriots last Sunday is a permanent disqualifier.

Who you got?

January 16, 2007  06:14 PM ET

I'm going to show my colors here...

Football
Payton
Mike Singletary (besides the eyes, he was a leader and was always in the right place)
Montana

Baseball:
Harold Baines (My fav of alltime, a great hitter and a great guy)
Kirby puckett

Basketball:
John Paxson (underrated player, great shooter, great team player)
Scottie Pippen (I have a post about him on the Bulls fan page)
Magic

Yeah, lots of Chi-town players...but those were the first names that popped into my head

January 16, 2007  06:30 PM ET

Ok my turn, most of these guys are going to be hockey since that is what I grew up watching.

Hockey
Mario (saw him play live, man unreal)
Gretz
Stevie Y
Bam Bam Cam (Neely)
Sakic
Lafontaine (La-la-la-la-Lafontaine)
Roy
Brodeur
Bourgue
Coffey (could fly like the wind)
Linden (Captain Canuck, there will never be another Vancouver captain in my mind)
Gilmour (wrap around on Cujo..sick)
Hasek
Andreychuk (softest hands)
Bure (wow factor)

Baseball
Tony Fernandez
Jimmy Key
Dave Steib
Cal
Joe Carter (1993 world series)
Robbie Alomar (some of the things he did were amazing)
Devon White

Football (late start on this, didn't start really watching hardcore till university)
Sanders (if he was playing and the game was on in Canada, I was watching)
Rice
Montana
Flutie
Peyton
Terrell Davis
Elway
Marino

That is the list of guys that I would have paid very good money to watch play live (I actually got to see a few of the baseball and hockey guys, haven't had a chance to see and NFL game live yet) and if they were playing and the game was on TV and I could see it, I was watching. I'm sure I have forgotten a few but that's the list of the top of my head.

January 16, 2007  10:26 PM ET

Josh: Love Singletary, too. For the same reasons I loved Harry Carson, although Mike was probably the better player. Doesn't really matter, though.

January 16, 2007  10:29 PM ET

And Loosemonkeys, you know Linden could have been one of my guys too just for his play in Game 7 of the 94 final. Guttiest performance I've ever seen and a shame it was in a loss. After the game, Trevor was so exhausted and dehydrated he literally could not speak for about 30 minutes. Oh, and the young Bure....he went up the ice he seemed to suck the fans right out of their seats as they watched. You couldn't take your eyes off him when he played.

January 16, 2007  10:41 PM ET

I'll pitch in when I get a full chance. But I write now to share a new one, for the future.

My two kids go to different private schools in Broward County, Florida. Today they squared off in men's varsity basketball. With civil war raging in my house, I had to take them to see the 17-1 Sagemont Lions host the 15-2 Pine Crest Panthers. Now, these are two small, academically-oriented private schools who play in Division Whatever. But they recruit, and take it pretty seriously (indeed, Sagemont's coach is a part owner of the Charlotte Bobcats).

Little did I know that I was wandering into a sea of scouts (and Al Leiter, a fellow Pine Crest parent who was there, BTW) keeping tabs on Pine Crest's 6'2" all-purpose guard, Brandon Knight.

The kid is 14 year's old, a freshman, and he's a spectacular player. I googled him after the game, and learned that he might be the top freshman in the country. I also learned that he carries straight A's at one of the toughest schools around, and he's so humble, that after a HS tournament last year, the 13-year old refused the MVP trophy, awarding it to the kid who was displaced from the team to make room for an eighth-grader. He sounds like he has the makings of a future fav. Prediction: Duke. [Bobby Hurley has young kids that go to the school, and he hangs around the program].

Oh, Sagemont won 67-64. The $3 I spent was a far better investment than spending $125 to see Antoine Friggin Walker, I'll tell you that.

January 17, 2007  06:08 PM ET

Good spotting Howard. One for the future for sure. And only cost 3 bucks.

January 19, 2007  09:43 AM ET

Don't forget Barry Sanders, he was so much fun to watch, Just imagine what he could have done on a decent team.

January 19, 2007  11:30 AM ET

thought id throw in my list of guys i would or would have paid to watch.

hockey.
Stevie Yzerman (worht every dime i spent)
Mario
Orr
Borque (there was always something about this guy i liked)
Howe
Gretzky

basketball
jordan (who wouldnt pay money to see him)
lebron (see jordan)
tim duncan
david robinson (one of the classiest men in all of sport)
bird
kareem
AI
maravich

baseball
babe
chipper
puljos
ted williams
dimaggio
clemente
jackie robinson

football
jim brown
barry
stabler
tony dorsett
bart starr
singletary
bradshaw
largent
ronnie lott

just to name a few, this list for ant fan fo sport would never end

January 20, 2007  11:53 AM ET

Brute: Great list but I'm wondering who you watch or watched who make you glad you're a sports fan, not just who you want to watch but, how about, who you'd want to know. to talk the game with. those were the ones on my list. who's like that for you?

January 20, 2007  12:20 PM ET

well ronnie lott definatey is one of those. i like hard hitting smash mouth football, and who better to make you glad to see it than lott? baseball its hands down chipper. the way he plays, wathcing him swing the bat is a thing of beauty. basketball its david robinson, the man was a great player but he never told you about it, his humbleness is sencond to none. in hockey its stevie y. hes a great player and is like the dave robinson of hockey. those are the main guys that make me glad im a sports fan, and the ones id wanna sit and have a beer and talk their sport with.

 
May 12, 2007  11:48 AM ET

I absolutely adore your choice of Martin Brodeur. There is nobody in the NHL who is moe deserving to enter the Hall of Fame, and at his pace he will pass Patty Roy's greatest achievements by the end of his carrreer. Good Luck to him and im glad you pointed that out.

I'd also like to comment about LT. Tomlinson has been a great football player, especially these last few years, and has carried his team through a lot of contraversy. I can see why he was upset by the Pats jeering, even as a Pats fan, but he needs to keep his cool and be a gentleman before people turn on him. He should easily get in the HOF if he keeps it up though.

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