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HELL yes you are dead on.....

Dude, you can lay down your title of "Idiot King" for today.

But only for today, or until there comes a time when you can admit that "Who Wins" means more than "Who's Now."

college football is as exciting as a ping pong tournament

college football is as exciting as a paint drying competition

Where else can you see one team with 20 star players beat up a local community college team

final scores in college games are stupid

68-3 never happens in the NFL (unless it is Detroit or Arizona, but at least they have a CHANCE to get the same players as the rest of the league)

This was my response to Perloff about why college is better:

Perloff, you're so wrong, I can't even imagine where to start.

This is why the NFL SUCKS!!!

1) DREW ROSENHAUS

2) Michael Vick

3) T.O.

4) PacMan Jones

5) Chris Henry

6) Sex cruises

7) Art Modell leaving Cleveland

8) Irsay leaving Baltimore

9) Rookies who make ten times more money than players who've actually proven something on the field and are more likely to be busts than All-Pros

10) The Super Bowl crowd full of rich businessmen instead of actual fans of the teams

Perloff, there are plenty of other reasons, but these are the most important.

Do you think that the Bulldogs are ever going to leave UGA or Athens? Or is Ohio State ever going to leave Columbus?

In college, we have kids who get in trouble for being college kids, ie; drinking underage, etc. In the NFL, you have guys KILLING DOGS, KILLING PEOPLE (Leonard Little) and MAKING IT RAIN!!!

In the NFL, people who care nothing about the sport have far too much power in how the sport it run, like Drew Rosenhaus.

In the NFL, there is rampant greed and the players could care less about the fans, not so in college, where the players actually have to live amongst the fans and go to classes with them.

In the college, seniority matters, but if you prove you belong on the field, you can play as a freshman, but not before you EARN the respect of the older players and coaches. In the NFL, guys like Ryan Leaf or Robert Gallery command INSANE rookie contracts, due to AGENTS running the NFL, before they've proven a damn thing.

And one last thing, how much better is a BCS Bowl than a Super Bowl (unless the always overrated Notre Lame is playing in it?) TEN MILLION TIMES BETTER!!! Why? REAL FANS!!! Add to that the SEC Championship Game, the best of the conference championship games, in which fans can play a huge part in who wins or loses.

Fans don't matter at the Super Bowl. It's a place where Fox can put the stars of "House" or "Bones" in the stands for the camera man to find.

The NFL has sold out to corporations. I love the fact that if the Bulldogs make it to the SEC Championship or the Sugar Bowl this year, I can actually GET TICKETS AS WELL AS AFFORD THEM!!!

Perloff, you get to wear Stew Mandel's "Idiot King" crown for today!

MetalDoc, you're an idiot.

I guess you didn't watch the Peach Bowl last year, or the Auburn - Florida Game, or the LSU Florida Game, or the Georgia - Georgia Tech Game, or the USC -UCLA Game, etc, etc.

Go root for whatever Dog Killing millionaire who happens to be playing for your team THIS year before he changes his mind and let's Drew Rosenhaus hold him out for more money and demands a trade to your "rival" team the next year.

Moron.

thats a weak argument.

Walk ons? so your team has bad players on it...and that makes it more fun to watch......really?


15) Games with national-title implications in September.
16) Games with national-title implications in October.

this makes college better? the fact that you can lose a game the first couple weeks of the season and be out of the title hunt. Isn't is more exciting to see a team that started 0-4 make a comeback and be in title contention?


i love to watch football, college or pro, but I was expecting a better argument for college that this, and you disappointed.

You're out of your mind if you don't think that at least a large portion of college cheerleaders dont have silicon boobies

Nice list of over-generalized, over-simplified, over-played platitudes. Most of these arguments are specious at best, but here are some key points:

5) What NFL players don't make mistakes?

6) So, Allen Iverson is now in the NFL?

9) So, getting a chance at redemption/revenge is bad?

10) How is it a good thing to run an easily stopped offense?

12) No different than undrafted free agents or low draft picks.

13) As opposed to grown people with no real excuse who are still passionate enough to dress up for the games?

15 and 16) You mean games that eliminate most of the teams from contention in September and October, unlike the NFL, where every game actually matters.

Expert 40 did you go to college?

What classes did you have football players outside of Phys Ed or Gen Ed? I tutored a good number of players and can safely say most didn't go to classes regularly and in many cases made arrangments to be graded on different standards (i.e. doing a paper instead of a test, which I will say is questionable that they did considering I was offered payment for doing them.) While I went to Div I school it was hardly a football power house and most (not all) of those players acted like primadonna's so how are they like regular students?

1. Where do pro-players come from and did they magically become bad citizens in the NFL? They were enabled in college and it continues in the NFL in fact Pac Man and Marcus Vick both got in serious trouble in college that was swept under the rug because police in college towns have a way sweeping things under the rug where as a metropolitan police force won't generally do that for a player.

2. You talk about sex cruises what about Colorado Univ. sex scandel?

3. Funny you mention Super Bowl tickets I am nobody special but could have gotten tickets if I had the money, but when I tried to get BCS tickets unless I happened to know an alumni booster or had university connections I didn't have a prayer in hell of getting them.

4. The SEC championship game, so who do you like Vanderbilt or Miss. St.? That's right about half the teams in the conference won't even compete for it, so I guess the fans can't change the course of those games but guess what, corrupt college recruiting can which is why Vanderbilt is the only school in the last 10 years in the SEC not to have recruiting violations.

5. By the way go to the SEC website, did you know that AT&T is the official wireless service of the SEC, Nissan is the official Automaker of the SEC, and Regions bank is the official bank of the SEC (there are about 10 more)? So college football hasn't sold out to corporations, give me a break, just how stupid are you?

6. I agree a college can't move but those coaches sure do, did Urban Meyer stay at Utah despite going to a BCS bowl with them or half a dozen other coaches who left smaller schools for greener pastures? Great loyalty in college huh?

Expert40 you are the last person to call anyone an idiot. Think about your arguments before you make them. The quality of the NFL game is superior any college coach will tell you that and as much as you probably don't like it, guess what? All the NFL players played in college and every college player wishes he could play in the NFL.

One more for you Expert 40. Have you ever heard of Alumni Boosters? They are people (usually business people) that have no official place at a university but fund players and their families under the table, give favors to staff (such as selling a coach a new SUV for $5000.00), and TRIED to pay guys like me to do football player's school work or in some cases take tests for them. From a purely moral standpoint I think they are worse than the agents you claim control the NFL because they overtly flaunt the NCAA rules! Also, anyone with half a brain can see that the commissioner's office runs the NFL while the entire NCAA is run by a few select conferences and their boosters. If you don't believe me look at how the BCS system is setup (favors 4 conferences) vs. how the NFL players association negotiates with the league (inmates don't run the asylum the owners do) and how the league has cracked down on many player issues (steroids for one).

Any team manager for a college team could tell you plenty of nightmare stories about how college football works and how the players really are (i.e. Maurice Clarrett as the most public example). Try to see these teams for what they really are, which is a huge money maker for the schools, the coaches, and boosters who exploit players with a hope that they might play in the league you say is inferior. At least the NFL is a business and makes no secret of it and the players are well compensated for it.

Great Post Stewie,

Couldn't have said it better myself.

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Here is a reason: in Pro - you you games games strictly scheduled: 1PM, then a 4 PM and then the Sunday Night game. If the 1PM game goes to OT, or another game is a blow-out, stupid NFL rules prohibit viewers from seeing the finishes from better games...

In college - you have games starting as early as 11:00 in the morning, just about the time I am finishing my bloody mary, and then it is non-stop football until 11:00 (or later is a good Pac-10 matchup is on FSN ) There is so much football going on, the only beer breaks I get are when I have to hit the head.... they will switch over to better games in college at the drop of a hat as opposed to the NFL, and besides.... the hotties are hands down better to look at in college....

Final point - does it really matter if the boobies are silicone enhanced or not?? THEY ARE BOOBIES!!

Yes, the players aren't as good in college, but that only allows the stars to shine even more. You won't see Reggie Bush roll off 513 yards of offense or LT scoring 6 touchdowns in a game on the professional level. When great players go to the NFL, it's like watching Superman return to Krypton. At that level everyone is a Superman.

Bottom line: college is flat-out more fun to watch. When I watch the NFL, I feel like I'm watching a bunch of stiffs working for their checks. I don't get depressed during the weeks following the Super Bowl.

People really seem to be polarized between 1 or the other. I guess I don't fit in as I watch both because they are football. They offer different things and the worst part about the NFL is just where I live, I get crappy games every weekend on TV.

I like Stewart's columns but the arugments presented seem weak as to what really makes college football good.

Expert40 needs to read the College Football news section 1 day. He seems to spew over and over hatred for the criminals in the NFL, but at times over 50% of the headlines is about college players getting arrested. The criminals in the NFL... most were criminals in college. The constant negative aspects of the players is a downer but I don't see how it's an NFL problem. It's a society problem.

Of all your spewings thought this one cracked me up.
"The NFL has sold out to corporations. I love the fact that if the Bulldogs make it to the SEC Championship or the Sugar Bowl this year, I can actually GET TICKETS AS WELL AS AFFORD THEM!!!"

Have you ever watched a bowl game??????

Yes, college is so much better. Nothing like not being able to watch the game son TV because it's not televised, even locally. Or the fact that being in a city means the stadium is downtown because it's shared with the NFL team which adds another 2 hours to the length of the day. Or the schools giving students the worst section of the stadium to sit in because they make more money off of everyone else with tickets. The places that college football is the biggest is in the places where there is nothing to do on Saturdays except go to the football games. Most of them are in the middle of nowhere and if there was no football there would be nothing else for them to do.

College is better for these reasons.

There is actual tradition and history.

Less drunks at college games.

No one spills beer on me.

Touchdown Jesus

Every game counts

The Golden Dome

Student Sections

Notre Dame

Bigger stadiums

More games and teams

The NFL is where thugs thrive. Sure there are Marcus Vicks and this SoCar guy, but they look like Girl Scouts compared to Michael Vick, Tank Johnson, Pacman Jones, and the entire Bengals team.

Players play because they love the game.

Recruiting

Bigger and better rivalries.

Less bandwagon fans.

Number 17 is right on. Never in your life have you heard a group of 92,000 fans become that silent before (yes, even during the anthem or the occasional "moment of silence"), and it is all out of respect for greatness (and maybe a little bit because the Bear is kinda hard to understand if you aren't listnening closely).

even college over time is better, all a pro team has to do is kick a field goal in the pros and its over, college lets them battle it out