The teams in NASCAR ebb in flow like any sport, and at times it is hard to be consistent. I don't think Ganassi made any changes to either team in the off season. So following that logic they should be doing as well this year as last, but that is not the case. How do they change that I don't know. If anything last year seemed more like the fluke then this year.

Montyoa can still make the Chase with a win next week at Senoma, and one at Watkins Glen, but even if they make the Chase at this point I doubt it would be much of anything. But then again last year everyone was ready to call Roush as an organization down for the count and they have resurged with a vengeance this year so maybe the 1 and 42 will start cranking out the W's here in the second half of the year.

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Originally posted 11:23 AM ET  06.20 by Raistwalker

The teams in NASCAR ebb in flow like any sport, and at times it is hard to be consistent. I don't think Ganassi made any changes to either team in the off season. So following that logic they should be doing as well this year as last, but that is not the case. How do they change that I don't know. If anything last year seemed more like the fluke then this year.Montyoa can still make the Chase with a win next week at Senoma, and one at Watkins Glen, but even if they make the Chase at this point I doubt it would be much of anything. But then again last year everyone was ready to call Roush as an organization down for the count and they have resurged with a vengeance this year so maybe the 1 and 42 will start cranking out the W's here in the second half of the year.

Verry optimistic statement....I just don't think Chip is all on with NASCAR..all his other series are champions...something does not add up here..

I'll agree Chip has a lot of irons in the fire as it were.

But also I think some of their problems is the current car package. If you look at the cars after about 5 laps the field pretty much settles out and unless you come up with good pit strategy or have luck you don't really move through the field. And those who are able to catch up to the car in front of them pretty much hit a brick wall when it comes time to pass.

Yesterday Carl Edwards said the areo package of the cars make passing pretty much impossible. Watch the last 2 laps, Matt Kenseth closes up on Denny Hamlin and has the superior car until he gets within a car length or two, then the car almost becomes undriveable. You take a car that starts mid to back pack and they have to work through all the dirty air, many of the cars can't and get trapped in the mid pack. Even top running cars like Jimmie Johnson, Jeff Gordon, and the Roush bunch. They mostly rely on the pit crews and pit strategy to move up through the field.

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Originally posted 03:07 PM ET  06.20 by Raistwalker

I'll agree Chip has a lot of irons in the fire as it were. But also I think some of their problems is the current car package. If you look at the cars after about 5 laps the field pretty much settles out and unless you come up with good pit strategy or have luck you don't really move through the field. And those who are able to catch up to the car in front of them pretty much hit a brick wall when it comes time to pass. Yesterday Carl Edwards said the areo package of the cars make passing pretty much impossible. Watch the last 2 laps, Matt Kenseth closes up on Denny Hamlin and has the superior car until he gets within a car length or two, then the car almost becomes undriveable. You take a car that starts mid to back pack and they have to work through all the dirty air, many of the cars can't and get trapped in the mid pack. Even top running cars like Jimmie Johnson, Jeff Gordon, and the Roush bunch. They mostly rely on the pit crews and pit strategy to move up through the field.

Fair enough, but this team has had problems in the past when it comes to making race decisions, remenber all the cars have the same problem yet some teams get it done...we can at least agree on that....look there is no bigger Montoya fan than me, I just hate to see a world class driver mounted on a mule of a car...lol...lol

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Originally posted 06:04 PM ET  06.20 by asifyouknow

Fair enough, but this team has had problems in the past when it comes to making race decisions, remenber all the cars have the same problem yet some teams get it done...we can at least agree on that....look there is no bigger Montoya fan than me, I just hate to see a world class driver mounted on a mule of a car...lol...lol

I totally understand the frustration from seeing your favorite driver not do well year in and out. And don't get me wrong Montoya is a heck of a driver, he's proven that on so many levels. And trust me if I had the answers I'd either be out there selling them to the teams of NASCAR, or running a team of my own and dominating!

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Originally posted 08:17 PM ET  06.20 by Raistwalker

I totally understand the frustration from seeing your favorite driver not do well year in and out. And don't get me wrong Montoya is a heck of a driver, he's proven that on so many levels. And trust me if I had the answers I'd either be out there selling them to the teams of NASCAR, or running a team of my own and dominating!

That is the great thing about being a fan ! no investment...