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Kyle Petty's comments on TNT were an example of the bias that occurs in many of the NASCAR broadcasts.

I came over to NASCAR from Formula 1 when Juan Pablo Montoya made the change, I quickly became a big fan not only of the sport but many drivers like Tony Stewart, Kyle Busch, Denny Hamlin and Kevin Harvick.

The thing that I noticed the most about the sport (actually I wrote an article about it years ago) is that there is a disconnect between a new fan and the broadcast crews, they always talk about their buddies and who's father they raced back in the days.

As a viewing fan of just about every sport on TV I can tell you without reservation that NASCAR is the only sport where this happens in a consistant basis. 

Just my opinion.

All good, fair enough, but I did get the feeling I was intruding, there is a kind of old boys network to the broadcast, is like "their thing"

Again, fair enough.

On lap No. 38 Montoya and Kyle Busch were fighting for position, how surprising ha, those drivers are like two peas in a pod, we can agree on that, Montoya squeezed Kyle onto the dirt, Kyle came right back , no harm done, is over lets move on.

About a hundred feet behind Kyle B. and Juan, Tony Stewart hits Vickers and punts him, Kyle Petty and friends jumped on Montoya's case like a monkey on a banana tree , Montoya's fault of course, something JPM fans have been putting up with since he came to NASCAR.

After further review you could "clearly see" that Tony Stewart had a clear vision as to where Vickers was and just tried to move him, "just racing, just racing" isn't that what we always hear from those NASCAR experts in the media.

You know the drill, Rubbing is racing, trading paint, just a little tap, boys will be boys, you know what I'm saying wink, wink, I didn't want to hit you, if you're a fan you know what I'm talking about.

Even after they ran the replay a hundred time none of them acknowledge the fact that Juan's and K. Busch incident had nothing to do with the Tony vs. Vickers incident. NOTHING!

Let me just add further insult to injury, on lap 44 or 45, No.2 Big K. punted No.43, nothing was said, no drivers got ripped by the TNT crew, a few seconds later Logano bounced Kenseth , again nothing said, no scolding of Logano, actually Kyle Petty said , and I quote "I'm not defending Joey ....." but of course he did.

How about when Logano "ONCE AGAIN" did the aggressive driving thing, you know that stuff the bum Montoya does, Joey punted R. Gordon on purpose, yet the TNT broadcaster turned a blind eye once again.

So many things happen in this race, we could write a book about it, one think did stay constant in this race, the broadcasting crew had their favorites that could do no wrong and they crucified the ones they didn't like even though they had similar incidents.

NASCAR justice I guess.

In NASCAR one thing has become strikingly clear to me:

RUBBING IS RACING, "BUT" IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHO IS DOING THE RUBBING.

Fair enough, it is what it is, but if NASCAR is serious about attracting younger and a more diverse audience they may want to take a closer look at this.

If an old man like me, sitting in front of a computer in my socks and underwear has noticed how obvious the bias of the broadcast is, I wonder what a younger and more educated fan is thinking as they tune in for the first time to see a NASCAR race.

I want you folks to understand this, criticizing a driver is a legitimate part of a commentators job, but picking and choosing who you criticize or who you protect when the situations are similar is unacceptable.

TNT should not allow this to happen, NASCAR should not allow this to happen, I'm sure NASCAR has the recourses to take a look at this but I'm sure they won't.

As a fan I found the bias on the TNT broadcast offensive, but that's just me, I'm not the audience who they're catering to.

Seriously, if NASCAR just plans to broadcast to the same audience for the next 30 years then all is well, but if they want to replenish their audience they better take a look at this or at least take a listen to the NBA, NFL and MLB broadcasts.

As always I'm just a fan with an opinion and from what I understand everybody has one and I thank God for that .

Enough said.

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June 26, 2011  11:26 PM ET

Thank you so much for the read..hope you understand my point..This is my second lenguage so be kind...lol

June 27, 2011  03:14 AM ET

a great point put well. i total agree jpm gets bashed to much and never gets a fair deal unless its at indy thats the only time they realy talk about him

June 27, 2011  09:48 AM ET

I will agree that NASCAR definitely has that "Good Old Boys" club feel. I think that is part of what has made it popular in the past, and something that has helped to make it different the other sports. But that also should be handled in a way that it does not alienate new fans to the sport.

Yes JPM did get blame for the Vickers' wreck early in the race, but part of that I think was the idea of trying to "sell" or build on the chain reaction 'storyline" they wanted to highlight during the race. Something happens 5 or 6 cars in front of you and you end up wrecked while those who "started" the wreck drive away because they were not involved. And like most broadcasters Petty opened his mouth before all the facts were in. I personally thought after seeing it was Stewart who dumped Vickers then Petty should have at least attempted something that might have been considered an apology.

June 27, 2011  10:29 AM ET

"Petty opened his mouth before all the facts were in. I personally thought after seeing it was Stewart who dumped Vickers then Petty should have at least attempted something that might have been considered an apology."


Actually let me retract a statement, there really should not be any apology for an opinion, that was his opinion, fair enough.
You do make a great point, maybe they should hold off a few seconds until they look at the replay rather than making quick judgments.
The tone of the broadcasters were that of a "pile on" variety. Kyle most not like Montoya but he made it clear he likes Logano he gave him 2 passes and also made excuses for him.
Look all I???m saying is NASAR should look at it, unless they just want to cater to the same people for the next 30 year.
Don???t know how old you are but back in the sixties PBA (bowling) had a bigger TV audience than college football, hard to believe I know, but true (look it up) they never went after new fans, they all got old and died on their couches???lol???.ABC canceled and the PBA went down, I think their back on espn but nothing like the old days.
Could that be NASCAR's fate, probably not, but hey new fans never hurt.
Look I don???t rhink DW and Kyle and all the old gang is going to bring young folks to NASCAR , they keeping rhem in front of the cameras just to satisfy the base, guess the base is enough to keep it going for a while???
Again all I'm saying is to be fair and consistant on the broadcast..

June 27, 2011  10:31 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

I will agree that NASCAR definitely has that "Good Old Boys" club feel. I think that is part of what has made it popular in the past, and something that has helped to make it different the other sports. But that also should be handled in a way that it does not alienate new fans to the sport.Yes JPM did get blame for the Vickers' wreck early in the race, but part of that I think was the idea of trying to "sell" or build on the chain reaction 'storyline" they wanted to highlight during the race. Something happens 5 or 6 cars in front of you and you end up wrecked while those who "started" the wreck drive away because they were not involved. And like most broadcasters Petty opened his mouth before all the facts were in. I personally thought after seeing it was Stewart who dumped Vickers then Petty should have at least attempted something that might have been considered an apology.

Actually let me retract a statement, there really should not be any apology for an opinion, that was his opinion, fair enough.
You do make a great point, maybe they should hold off a few seconds until they look at the replay rather than making quick judgments.
The tone of the broadcasters were that of a "pile on" variety. Kyle most not like Montoya but he made it clear he likes Logano he gave him 2 passes and also made excuses for him.
Look all Im saying is NASAR should look at it, unless they just want to cater to the same people for the next 30 year.
Dont know how old you are but back in the sixties PBA (bowling) had a bigger TV audience than college football, hard to believe I know, but true (look it up) they never went after new fans, they all got old and died on their couches-lol-ABC canceled and the PBA went down, I think their back on espn but nothing like the old days.
Could that be NASCAR's fate, probably not, but hey new fans never hurt.
Look I dont rhink DW and Kyle and all the old gang is going to bring young folks to NASCAR , they keeping rhem in front of the cameras just to satisfy the base, guess the base is enough to keep it going for a while
Again all I'm saying is to be fair and consistant on the broadcast..

June 27, 2011  11:14 AM ET

I understand what you are saying asifyouknow, and you are right that there has been an issue with bias in the booth over the last couple of years. DW is the biggest offender in my opinion. I do not know how much control NASCAR has over the comments made in the booth or not, but I doubt it is much or else they would have tried to curb some of the more blatant bias already taking place on Fox. Then again they may be encouraging it too.

And while I have never really paid attention to the comments coming from TNT much, what you have said and what I saw during the race brings up a valid point. Yes Kyle threw up the "I'm not defending him, but..." card way too many times. Either you defend the driver or you don't, and you are right to point out that support or no support should be consistent.

Sorry to say I wasn't around for the 60's, and I agree that it is getting new fan growth is an issue for every sport, NASCAR just hasn't figured out how to do that yet. You can see that in the attendance number over the past couple of years, they have been getting smaller and smaller. How do they fix that I don't know, but I know at one point JPM was a key to help stimulate that growth. With NASCAR fans being mostly White Americans, mainly form the south eastern portion of the country, it was thought JPM would help expose NASCAR to a large international and/or Hispanic fan base. That hasn't happened quite like NASCAR hoped. Not JPM's fault that's just what happened.

June 27, 2011  11:15 AM ET

For the record I have no problems with you stating your opinion asifyouknow, it is just as valid as mine is. I actually am enjoying the banter back and forth and this is helping me see NASCAR in a slightly different way then I am used to.

June 27, 2011  11:46 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

For the record I have no problems with you stating your opinion asifyouknow, it is just as valid as mine is. I actually am enjoying the banter back and forth and this is helping me see NASCAR in a slightly different way then I am used to.

By the way this has been true for many other drivers too and it does not matter to them if they are the east coast, west coast or anywhere in between, they pick their posse and run with them all year. I guess they just fall in love???lol

 
July 4, 2011  01:19 PM ET

I've gotten massages on my tweet account that I have banned or erased comments from the fannation site...as blogers we do not have the ability to erase or ban anyone from this site...if your comments contain abusive language I'm sure it will get erased by them not me....

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