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Twelve in the chase, most of the rest in Silly Season. if it were up to you, which drivers should be fired for lack of performance? I am thinking of the who haven't performed well over numerous seasons, not just those this year.... Top of my list? jPM
September 24, 2011  09:01 AM ET

I would blame the pit crew and the C.C. for a number of JPM's failures this year.

September 24, 2011  09:09 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

I would blame the pit crew and the C.C. for a number of JPM's failures this year.

I respect that position, too

September 24, 2011  09:12 AM ET

I think there are a few more drivers in the series that deserve to leave before JPM. Dave Blaney, David Ragan, Reagan Smith, Mike Bliss, & Robby Gordon to name a few

September 24, 2011  09:23 AM ET

Manimal1022; Ragan has shown flashes of brilliance and I think he will be a decent driver , not a great one but not a field filler either. The others all go out for a start and park but Blaney puts a few good runs on the board. I would love to see Robby fire himself, he gets me nervous when ever he gets near a driver I like. Robby is a rare bird. LOL

September 24, 2011  09:39 AM ET

OK I will give you Ragan but all of the rest need to pound pavement. LOL

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September 24, 2011  09:55 AM ET
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I am not gonna get too deep into this, BUT.... What if the bottom 8 were made ineligible for the next year.For continued lack of performance (in my OPINION)... Jeff Burton, B. Labonte, Gilliland, Mears, Biffle, Montoya. I got to stop....won't be nobody left.

That's an interesting idea, but NASCAR can't dictate who the teams put in the driver seat. (Aside from making them get a license and pee in a cup.) Most of the ones you mentioned, I'll add Kenny Schrader to that list too, are generally nice guys who know how to schmooze sponsors. That is just as important as knowing how to drive these days.

September 24, 2011  10:26 AM ET
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That's an interesting idea, but NASCAR can't dictate who the teams put in the driver seat. (Aside from making them get a license and pee in a cup.) Most of the ones you mentioned, I'll add Kenny Schrader to that list too, are generally nice guys who know how to schmooze sponsors. That is just as important as knowing how to drive these days.

So true

September 24, 2011  10:47 AM ET

""For continued lack of performance (in my OPINION)... Jeff Burton, B. Labonte, Gilliland, Mears, Biffle, Montoya. I got to stop....won't be nobody left. "" by 22GA Quote #6

From that list Burton , JPM, Biffle, have shown some greater moments.....however thos moments are getting fewer and farther between.....Burton is a surprise this year as he has been consistently 24th ~ 25th in points.

My guy to fire would be ~Mears~

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September 24, 2011  04:18 PM ET

I'll certainly agree along the lines of blaney, etc, but I guess I was thinking along the lines of the overrated. .. underachievers---nobody EXPECTS much from blaney, mears, robby

September 24, 2011  05:40 PM ET

oh ok pondscum....in that line of thinking it would be ~Burton~

Logano is overrated in my opinion...BUT.....he needs a few more years to prove himself....too early to fire him. LOL
Mark Martin is also overrated (his good days are behind him).....BUT.......he has solved his own problem and will be part time next year.

September 24, 2011  06:12 PM ET
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oh ok pondscum....in that line of thinking it would be ~Burton~Logano is overrated in my opinion...BUT.....he needs a few more years to prove himself....too early to fire him. LOLMark Martin is also overrated (his good days are behind him).....BUT.......he has solved his own problem and will be part time next year.

Bowyer, Burton...... wasn't the last time RCr fielded four cars, there were performance issue pretty much across the whole company?

Jack Rush must be spending most of his time recently, trying to have all four teams fully sponsored and never all white paint.

JGR doesn't seem to have any ambition to go to four. I wonder, to myself at least but will voice it here, is Smoke making a smart move adding a team?(divorce yourself from the kermita and go daddy issue and simply consider the additional employees and real estate, corporate meetings etc.)

September 24, 2011  06:12 PM ET

Jack Roush

September 24, 2011  06:15 PM ET

And I think I still have to go with jpm, but Burton, martin follow. But, do we then further delineate between never was and the who once were and are now past their prime?

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September 25, 2011  08:56 AM ET
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.My guy to fire would be ~Mears~

LittleE; I can see your management skills. Short and to the point, no fooling around. Done and gone for Mears. LOL

September 25, 2011  09:13 AM ET

I don't see much on radar out east... we going racing today?

September 25, 2011  10:26 AM ET

LOL JK and thanks

 
September 25, 2011  10:31 AM ET
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LittleE; I can see your management skills. Short and to the point, no fooling around. Done and gone for Mears. LOL

A legecy racing on the fame of the name.

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