Florida State Seminoles Fan Group (Official)

Well, well, well.....we will no longer have Preston Parker's services as a WR. He just got booted off the team after his third arrest.....dumba-s-s.
ATLfan7 02/02/09
Mister Speaker......(loud noise and cheering in the background) Mister Speaker....(More noise in the background...dying down)...Mister Speaker...I move that we decline playing in anymore Thursday Night games...I'm not sure my ticker can take it !!!

Seriously though folks...that's a character win...in a historically tough place for us to win. Every game like this builds confidence for a young team...allows them to believe in themselves. It wasn't pretty...but a win is a win..."Just Win Baby". Heads up ACC...its time to once again....FEAR THE SPEAR !!! GO NOLES !!!
4thand1 10/16/08
well we finally beat the canes , even though special teams almost gave it away with the bad snaps . ponders running really suprised me and smith had some good runs. but i'll give it to the canes they didn't fold after going down at the half , the fought back.great game.
nolzwin 10/05/08
Great win today. The offense actually had some rhythm.....Garvin's return was awesome to watch. GO NOLES!! :-)
ATLfan7 09/28/08
That game was ugly......getting owned by the Deacs at home AND it was on national TV.....geez.
ATLfan7 09/21/08
My brothers and sisters in the seminole family:

At 7:00 pm ET, the time of reckoning will be here. Our Noles have struggled with Wake Forest for the Past two years. That ends here and now. As all of you know we havent had the prime season that last two years. But with new hope, a fresh beginning and a brand spankin new style stadium we have alot to be excited about. Tonight we play Wake Forest...Tonight we beat Wake Forest. I hope you all will join me as I take my seat in the student section..and we watch our seminoles fight fight fight fight to victory. WE ARE FLORIDA STATE. SEMINOLES, ITS TIME..LETS ROLL!!!! GO NOLES!!!!!!!!!!!
CRIMSONNOLE41 09/20/08
It's all about cohesion...and our guys are finally playing as a team again.
Chief Osceola 09/18/08
The offense has looked better in the last two games than it has the past two years......Ponder and D'Vo have shown that they deserve the playing time. Let's give Wake a little taste of their own meds from 2006....GO NOLES!!! :-)
ATLfan7 09/18/08
I'm with you Dave. I feel really confident that the Noles can put the Deacs back where they belong this year. I really think we've got the best QBs and WRs that we've had since 99...we're looking good. Granted we've played 2 weak DivAA schools, but our team looks strong...and confident in themselves finally.

GO NOLES!
Chief Osceola 09/17/08
Here we are! Time has come to payback some Deacs for the 30-0 embarrasment in Doak 2 yrs ago.I feel like this team is surely capable of winning the Atlantic division this year,also the ACC.Let's get back to the B.C.S.where we belong!
>>>------GONOLES--------->
Seminole Dave 09/16/08
Yep...I've always been a Weatherford fan, but after seeing Ponder and D'Vo play in the first 2, I'm ready to keep Drew on the sidelines.

This is our year for revenge for what the Deacs did @ Doak in 06...I feel it.

badgerfan07...Wisc looks good dude. Let's hope they put it to JoePa when his time comes and knocks him back a game.
Chief Osceola 09/15/08
Weatherford got outplayed during the Spring and Fall when the QB battle was decised. He has been the QB for 4 years and been steady but no improvement. It was time for a change and Jimbo made the right decision
N8Nole 09/10/08
great scrimmage , lol. one more tune up before the deacons. and the start of the real season. i am hoping somehow we can beat the deacons without our suspended starters .i like ponders ability, he looked good in his first game last year against VT, for a first game.and D'VO adds another demension to our game . but weatherford being dropped to #3 on the depth chart ?
nolzwin 09/09/08
Great win to start the season.....GO NOLES!!! :-)
ATLfan7 09/07/08
The lone Wisconsin 'Noles fan is here..excited for both Badger and Seminole football.
COLLEGE FOOTBALL STARTS TODAY!!!!! WOOHOO!!!

Granted, we still have another week and a half before the Noles kickoff, but still...just to know that college ball is about to get under way is awesome!

We need to get this place rockin again like we had it last season. ROLL CALL!
Chief Osceola 08/28/08
Anyone going to FanDay this weekend? Ill be there ahbout 4 hours early to beat the line.
N8Nole 08/06/08
Just bought football season tickets. Time to take names and kick ***
N8Nole 07/31/08
The promotional code for the 2008 ACC Football Ticketmaster presale is:

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Log on to ticketmaster and type it in when it asks you for a password.
ACC Football 07/25/08
Congrats to Buster Posey on winning the Golden Spikes award....you definitely earned it this year! GO NOLES! :-)
ATLfan7 07/17/08
Yall come check out my throwdown about why FSU will beat UF
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/194202
Welcome aboard N8! We all bleed g&g around here...though I'm tired of bleeding...we need to start inflicting the damage soon. ;)
Chief Osceola 07/03/08
Sorry Noles. I didnt know there was a FanNation group. Im a Tally resident, Warchant subscruiber and all out bleeder of G&G
N8Nole 07/01/08
Whoa still alive over here eh?

Congrats to failing in the 19th trip to the World Series? That's getting old.
DC Nolesfan 06/25/08
Agreed ATLfan great year. Great year. All the best to Buster Posey.
d-a-m-n.....two and out. fellas, you had a helluva year.....we're PROUD of you! GO NOLES! :-)
ATLfan7 06/16/08
Ditto that badgerfan07; the end of that game was very hard to watch. Hopefully they will bounce back and knock the 'Canes out of the tourney....GO NOLES!!! :-)
ATLfan7 06/15/08
That was a brutal loss to Stanford. Had all the momentum and then blow in the 9th. Tony Delmonico probably shouldn't have been starting. It still didn't seem like he was 100 percent from taking that slide in the Supers.
CONGRATS to the baseball team......Omaha bound for the College World Series! GO 'NOLES!!!
ATLfan7 06/08/08
Are these kids just effin' stupid or what? Way to go Parker.
ATLfan7 04/23/08
Only the first round of the NIT
Ha! For some reason our guys enjoy the NIT more.
ChadNole 03/20/08
Wow congrats FSU men's basketball you lost to Akron
Good job FSU baseball!
baseball season has officially started and our guys are #12 in the latest Div 1 poll.......GO 'NOLES! :-)
ATLfan7 02/26/08
FSU put itself on 2 years probation
Only 7 or 8 months until kickoff!
DC Nolesfan 02/14/08
I think you might be right...but I agree there are some solid linebacker recruits coming in
Didn't Peter play more DE in college? I may be mistaken here. I agree about the LB's. However, I think Carr and Bradham are going to impact right away and might just steal a couple guys jobs (Nicholson, Watson, or Ball)
DC Nolesfan 02/07/08
Peter Boulware anyone? The linebackers on this past team just got eaten up and he'd help provide some physical play
Fear the Sleeves! (those weird things he wore on his arms....wtf was up with those).

If Fabian isn't a choice, I'm hanging my hat on Pooh Bear Williams!

Haha, all Fabian jokes aside, Pooh Bear really was awesome!
DC Nolesfan 02/05/08
hey chad, ive been participating with myself all along! looks like we have a lil discussion going on now huh?

any player? id have to go wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiith.........

Fabian Walker
DC Nolesfan 02/05/08
Warrick is a great choice
Good Question...either Sanders or Warrick. PDub just did some amazing things with that football in his hand. His big play at WR would help our fading O.
ChadNole 02/04/08
That's a good call...I say bring back Lee Corso..not to play just to talk and annoy the hell out of everyone that they'll all go out there and play incredibly hard just so they wont have to hear him talk
Neon Deion...we really need some help at DB
Chief Osceola 01/31/08
If you could bring back one Seminole football player from the past to help this coming up team who would it be?
Hard to keep it going with no participation.
ChadNole 01/30/08
RIP is right.

<crickets chirping and tumbleweeds passing by>

Is it September yet?
Chief Osceola 01/30/08
R.I.P. to this group!
DC Nolesfan 01/28/08
my guess is they will advise him to try for WR at the combine. anything but QB he will never take a snap at that in the league
DC Nolesfan 01/18/08
He wont even be a starter in the Arena League
amen to that badgerfan! i wish him all the best in the arena league! i would draft jessica simpson before this guy
DC Nolesfan 01/15/08
Thank you Xavier Lee for leaving early!!
Mr. Pessimistic is coming to a forum near you!

This board is as dead as Kentucky's basketball program!
DC Nolesfan 01/14/08
Haha...I see you've integrated into the fsurules forums too. Some of the guys there can be pretty entertaining.
Chief Osceola 01/11/08
and FYI....my ban has been lifted! now i can stop talking to myself over here (although it is kind of fun!)
DC Nolesfan 01/11/08
bye bye geno.....much better off without him. now carr and bradham will start from day 1 hopefully! geno is a great athlete, but he made too many mistakes and wasn't physical enough IMO......it will be interesting to see if he ever sees an nfl field
DC Nolesfan 01/11/08
i would rather watch grass grow than women's basketball, NBA, college or major league baseball. the big golf tournaments are decent at least
DC Nolesfan 01/10/08
I like watching oollege baseball...so I'll have that until June but then after the college world series ends I'll start my countdown to opening weekend of college football
haha im more in a recovery state after 2 horrible years. but yes after college basketball there is NOTHING to watch until august/september. lord help us!
DC Nolesfan 01/09/08
Haha...nope...I missed the Tebow clips and sock shots. Ha!

Is it wrong to be already be anxious for the fall? I can feel the withdrawals already.
Chief Osceola 01/09/08
did anyone see the tech difficulties last night where they randomly showed tebow highlights along with that guys sock a few times? i guess a tebow fan was working in the booth?!?!?!
DC Nolesfan 01/04/08
which hopefully helps us in recruiting badger. come to FSU and play right from the get go and if u do good, you may keep ur position. the problem is the real bad players in the secondary were not affected (tony carter, garvin, and jamie robinson). one problem with our program is our coaches play the experience factor too much. that is one thing if the players are good, but if not, start the younger players that are good. did anybody see jamie robinson fall to his knees and wiff on that open field tackle? garvin isnt too bad but he's too small. tony carter couldn't cover me. he lines up 15 yards off the guy and runs backwards in man.

dont forget to watch EJ, bradham, carr, etc in the all star games this weekend. saturday at noon and 2pm (abc and nbc).
DC Nolesfan 01/03/08
A whole lot of true freshmen are going to have to play early on next year. Suspensions are going to hurt for the next couple of games of next season
did anyone else notice that it seemed like our WR's were covered more often than not? i can recall seeing DB's draped all over people DW would throw to. Just don't understand why we couldn't get open against such a bad defense.....

oh well im over it now. let's see what happens with recruiting. ill be praying we can get that kid that decommitted from miami (the corner that was defensive player of the year). supposedly between us, lsu, and uf
DC Nolesfan 01/02/08
come on chief......you are talkin nonsense. you think he should have ran drew more? why should he have more rushes than parker had touches? drew should run a QB draw maybe 3 times a year and we did it 3 times in a quarter.

i understand you are happy that we were able to compete, but the fact is we could have and should have won if our offense had played better. shame on you for endorsing running with DW, lol. it's like watching dan marino run. sure it worked a couple times, but wouldn't you rather preston parker got to see the ball a few times?
DC Nolesfan 01/02/08
The thing is DC...nobody would've predicted us to win this one going in. I was HOPING for a win to shut the boys and girls in blue up...but I sure wasn't expecting one. For us to have hung with Kentucky for the whole game with a new O line and a new defensive backfield impressed me. We didn't have the option of bringing in fresh guys throughout the game either...and we were never out of the game. I was impressed. Plus...when you're going up against 63,000+ Kentucky fans that are acting like their team is in the friggin Super Bowl...and you still play with more heart than the team has shown all year...the Noles that played deserve major kudos.

Now I'm not sure why Jimbo didn't continue running Drew more often after we showed how vulnerable the UK defense was to the QB run...but I'm still content.
Chief Osceola 01/02/08
well i hope you had a good trip and had fun in cashville! yeah i figured it had to be over 90% UK fans. still don't understand why everybody is happy with such a bad offensive gameplan. we were more competitive than we thought we'd be, but we should have won the game!
DC Nolesfan 01/02/08
Other than the crappy officiating, I wasn't upset with this loss at all. Of the 68,000 fans there...only 5,000 of us were Nole fans. Talk about a see of blue! Wow. UK fans were talking smack all weekend...so to lose by 7 (and crap officiating) wasn't bad at all.

GO NOLES in 08!
Chief Osceola 01/02/08
It was expected that our D would give up a lot of points...I've said it for a month, "WE WILL HAVE TO SCORE MORE THAN 30 TO WIN THIS GAME." The loss is on the offense. We could gather 11 guys from this fan group who could go score 35-42 on UK. Their defense is horrible. Can I ask what the game plan was??? Seems to me like it was to have Drew beat them with his legs???? Yes that was the game plan, for Drew to run. Preston Parker had about 5 touches. Give me a break. I'm very sorry ATL-Fan, but how can you say Carr and **** are awesome? They are some of the biggest p.u.s.s.i.e.s. ive ever seen. They let little tiny DBs wrestle the ball away from them like **** (spelling intentional). I will say that the refs blew that offensive pass interference call as Carr didn't even touch the guy. The intentional grounding was a garbage call as well, but they got most of the rest of them right. Weatherford was absolutely not in the end zone on that play, and what did you mean by "he was blocked into the line"? If you are talking about the leaping penalty on that kick that was a good call too.

Bottom Line: Offense lost the game for us due to a HORRIBLE game plan and the inablity to score against a real bad defense. When Fisher called the QB draw on 3rd and 2 for the 2nd time in the first quarter I almost lost it. He got the first down the 2nd time but I REFUSED to cheer such a horrible horrible call. Then they run that play about 10 more times throughout the game. How is Drew Weatherford gonna have more rushes than Parker has touches?? Where was the bubble screens and end arounds to Parker? Fisher still has something to prove next year I'll tell ya that!

Anyways at least they were competitive. I thought they would get beat by about 30, so I wasn't too pissed.
DC Nolesfan 01/02/08
It was clear that Drew needs to get passes to his receivers that are paced and placed correctly! You can't blame all of those incompletions on Carr, **** and Parker...those cats are awesome but can only catch what comes near them. I was really proud of the way the team stepped up to the challenges (officials, lack of depth and woodwon) they faced in this game! Go Noles!!
FSU-ATL fan 01/01/08
I'm glad Drew Weatherford played...less crapily than I though he would have.
Kudos to the Officiating crew for a wonderfully called game...you couldn't even get the reviewed calls right. How orchistrated was this game by the Music Bowl officials to make sure Kentucky won this game...A complete embarassment !!! FSU should never...EVER...go back to this farce of a Bowl Game !!!
4thand1 12/31/07
Kudos to the Defense for a tremendous effort !!! D- for the Offense !!! We had a chance to win this game and again nobody...ouside of Antone Smith and maybe DW, stepped up to make a play !!! Greg Carr, Preston Parker, DeCody ****...where were you ???? Oh well good effort Boys !!! GO NOLES !!!
4thand1 12/31/07
HA...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!

LOOKS GOOD ON YA....THAT'S CALLED POETIC JUSTICE !!!

AWESOME JOB NOLES !!! PERFECT 1ST HALF !!! GO NOLES !!!
4thand1 12/31/07
THAT WAS A SACK !!! ANOTHER MISSED CALL !!! MY GOD THIS IS EMBARASSING THE REFS ARE DOING EVERY THING THEY CAN TO GIVE THEM A TD.
4thand1 12/31/07
BRUTAL !!! THIS IS THE WORST OFFICIATING I HAVE EVER SEEN !!! HE WAS BLOCKED INTO THE LINE !!! ANOTHER COMPLETELY HORRIBLE !!!
4thand1 12/31/07
**** YOU REFS !!! THIS IS COMPLETE **** !!! HOW OBVIOUS CAN YOU MAKE IT...THE MUSIC BOWL WANTS A UK WIN !!! **** !!!
4thand1 12/31/07
DEFENSE !!! INT !!! TONY CARTER !!!

I SEE YOU TONY CARTER !!!
4thand1 12/31/07
Screwed again !!!! Weathyerford was in !!! This Officiating is a joke !!!
4thand1 12/31/07
Screwed again by the Officials who are turning this into a joke !!! What's a matter SEC...a little embarrassed that one of your Crown Jewels is being served by some 3rd string ACC'ers ???
4thand1 12/31/07
Lucky TD...Good Job Defense...c'mon Drew we need you now !!!
4thand1 12/31/07
Nice call on the intentional grounding...don't be afraid to share what you refs are smoking
4thand1 12/31/07
Wow....who was that masked man dressed up in Drew Weatherford's Uniform ???

I SEE YOU DREW WEATHERFORD !!! TOUCHDOWN NOLES !!!!
4thand1 12/31/07
Well that was predictable...no worries...buckle down Offense and get it back !!!
4thand1 12/31/07
I understand your point too
we still havent had a losing season like miami this year and ut a few years back, so thats nice
DC Nolesfan 12/28/07
i understand what you mean, but when you produce the same thing for 7 years, it might be time to go. Also 11-1 every year to 7-6, 8-5 every year equals losing to me. I'm just thankful that someone logged on today. god is everybody except me off this week?
DC Nolesfan 12/28/07
I think there's a difference between mediocrity and losing....if you want to look at a team who was a consistent loser look at Wisconsin before Barry Alvarez....we as FSU fans have been spoiled by the success of the progam in the 90's. I'm not old enough to remember Wisconsin's losing but I know it was bad, and as an FSU fan, having read a book about the struggles of the UW football program pre Alvarez FSU hasn't hit rock bottom yet, but its getting closer and closer
according to words directly from bobby's mouth he should be retiring this season (if not last). he always said if they start losing consistently that he would hang it up. 7 years of mediocrity isn't enough? i think he is looking at bear bryant dying weeks after retiring and that scares him (along with this stupid record)
DC Nolesfan 12/27/07
yeah if this isnt enough to make bobby retire we are stuck with him for 2 more years minimum. i dont think it will hurt us in recruiting cuz kids know they can go there and rape, steal, murder, pillage and bobby wont have a clue what they are doing!
DC Nolesfan 12/27/07
Merry Christmas to my Nole brothers...(and sisters)
ChadNole 12/24/07
Way to go ya Rebel...lol. That's too funny. Guess they have their panties in a bunch. Guess we'll find out all the names Saturday, although I know that Dakota Watson is one of them !!! How about the St.Pete Times calling for Bobby to retire...at least its a festive mood in Tallahassee...lol.
4thand1 12/21/07
Trouble maker! Haha!
Chief Osceola 12/21/07
Merry Xmas to everybody! I got banned from Nole Digest forums! Haha, does anybody know why? I'm assuming it was because I was joking about specific players being suspended. GAY! Oh well. I even started a thread trying to get people to respectfully debate an issue, but oh well
DC Nolesfan 12/21/07
Merry Christmas y'all!
Chief Osceola 12/21/07
Agreed, Bobby Bowden is well known for giving second and even third chances to kids. I love Bobby Bowden too he's a legend in the coaching profession. But I think people need to look in the mirrors when they say think like the Florida State Criminoles, you mean to tell me no one else has made any mistakes in their lives? The only reason its a big deal is because they're football players at a major university.
I'm sorry but this is embarassing...embarassing for the players involved...the Program...the School...and the Fans of FSU. I'm sure Bobby and Jimbo are using this a major recruiting tool !!! (that's extreme sarcazim) Up here in the Great White North, the only Sport making headlines this time of year is Hockey...with the NHL and the World Junior Tournament starting soon. But wait what's this...25 players to be suspended at FSU before the Bowl game that nobody up here has ever heard of, or cares about ??? Smack dab in the middle of the Headlines !!! Hockey taking a back seat for a few hours to this story ??? Completely embarrassing !!! Up here FSU is not known for what they do on the field...but what they do off the field...I hear it all the time...hey look its "No Shoes U" or the "FSU Criminoles". This incident does nothing to repair this image. I realize who cares what people in Canada think about FSU and the fact that FSU and Miami are looked at up here as "Hoodlum" University's !!! However have we stopped to think that maybe its just not people in Canada that think this !!!...and maybe this is also the feeling at home in our own backyards !!! How have the recruiting classes been lately ??? Someone explain to me how publicity like this helps in getting the best players to Tallahassee, and not Gainsville, or Athens, or Baton Rouge, or wherever !!! This is just another black eye, and the one part of the Bobby Bowden Legacy that completely bothers me. My God I Love Bobby Bowden, and Florida State University...but ZI'll come right out and say it....The demise of this program is not a product of parity, or the emergence of up and comming programs elsewhere....this demise is 100% manufactured "In House" !!! and this is a shinning example of why the Program is in decline, and why it may be years before it will recover....and GOD I hope I'm wrong about that !!!

HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE !!! GOD Bless, Be Safe !!! GO NOLES !!!
4thand1 12/20/07
let me go back and say that im sorry for even considering that myron rolle would be involved in this. i forgot that he is an excellent student and a class act
DC Nolesfan 12/20/07
i would normally agree chief, but if we can get roger williams, tony carter, garvin, rolle, and nicholson off the field, we are better even with intramural replacements! haha

oh well, i hope you enjoy the game man.

badger, i wouldn't be so slow not to defend the players. this happens at every university and fsu is turning itself in so to speak. the tutor is at fault here. there isnt a football player in the country who wouldnt accept answers to a test
DC Nolesfan 12/19/07
DC...as much as I welcome new players getting the chance to shine and show their talent...I don't want it to be at the bowl game after I've driven 700 miles. I'd prefer not to be the laughing stock of the UK fans (of which I'm sure there'll be plenty of there).

On the other hand...if the kids are guilty...I'd rather us lose with dignity than win with cheaters. :(
Chief Osceola 12/19/07
I personally think at least a few starters are involved...there is a lot of pressure put on student athletes...they have to keep up their grades and perform well in practice to get some playing time. I'm in no way justifying what they did, but I just wouldnt be surprised if at least a few starters are involved
first off, the number of players involved is a complete rumor at this point as is the number of games they will be suspended. Let's wait and see.

I have to disagree with Chief and say that I am hoping (and praying) that there are LOTS of starters involved in order to give some younger talent a chance. I'm hoping our entire back 7 on defense for sure. Suspending all those guys makes us a better team to say the least. Hopefully Weatherford was involved, but thats probably not the case. Carter, Garvin, Rolle, Watson, Nicholson, and Roger Williams at the least would be awesome! Haha go ahead and bash me, but those guys can sit and give somebody a chance to prove they are legit. We will keep P-Rob and Hayes. Anyways, all joking aside, this does suck!
DC Nolesfan 12/18/07
and yes I mis-spelled that on purpose to prove a point...(good thing I have nothing to say on this....lol)
4thand1 12/18/07
I've decided not to pass judgement and not say anuything on this matter until more details come out. I will say this though...this is again completely stupid and dumb. A/ Because again a situation where these retards again fail to understand the signifigance of the opprotunity presented to them and its abused to the point of a suspension or worse...and B/ That we got caught at something that happens at EVERY SINGLE INSTITUTION in the country...yes I said that !!!
4thand1 12/18/07
Nope...apparently the university is being pretty quiet about it. I'm HOPING that since all our main guys are practicing right now, that it's the younger guys who haven't been playing much anyhow.
Chief Osceola 12/18/07
Does the article say who the players are?
Well this is just GREAT news...20 suspension for Music City Bowl...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3159534
Chief Osceola 12/18/07
lol..wow that would suck
lol i was wondering if he had any of those phrases back in the day. he should be inducted into the hall of fame as a broadcaster, but he may be the single worst coach ever. he made his freshman players run sprints for an hour after each practice. "the diaper dandy dash" haha
DC Nolesfan 12/14/07
Yeah my vote goes to Dicky V too...I would have hated it if I had to be one of his players..everytime you do something good in practice "you're a ptper baby!!" o
haha badgerfan

i think the argument of who was the worst head coach in the history of organized sports has to be between dick vitale and wannstedt. i would probably vote for dicky v but it's close!
DC Nolesfan 12/14/07
Nothing like a good Dave Wannstedt reference I for one fear the stash
gawd, nobody on any site will reply to my bryant mckinnie or dave wannstedt references.

this white kid sounds exciting!
DC Nolesfan 12/11/07
Another big commit. 4* DE Juco Markus White committed. He has 4 years to play 3. Kid had something like 24.5 sacks last year alone and 90 something tackles.
ChadNole 12/11/07
i have to add that there are kids over 300 that can move and run just as fast as kids who are 260-280. One of them is not Bryant Mckinnie who is the worst LT in the NFL (and probably gets top 5 money!!!)
DC Nolesfan 12/10/07
Trickett is really high on him. He's 6'5 280 I believe.
ChadNole 12/10/07
we got a new OL committ, some kid in tennessee that is a finalist for mr football lineman........however, tennessee high school football is one of the worst, so that isnt saying a whole lot. nonetheless im hoping the kid can play
DC Nolesfan 12/10/07
size has minimal effect on the rating. there are guys who are 6'7" and 330 with 1 or 2 stars simply because of their size, but on the field they are terrible. at the end of the day chad is right though, the ratings dont mean jack till they step on the field
DC Nolesfan 12/10/07
I dont get the recrit rating system. I mean big deal, the biggest kid out there clearly dominates so he gets 5 stars..I don't get it...
I know how you feel about the 1 OL commit...hence my patience comment. But remember, I have a Premium membership on NoleDigest and I can assure you Trickett has been busy ;)
ChadNole 12/07/07
i agree with the weight factor. he wants guys that can run and are athletic, not fat **** that sit there and pass block like we have had in the past. i do remember my brother calling our O-line fat slobs that cant run prior to trickett's arrival. you are right on this one, im just pissed that we only have 1 committ. sorry bro
DC Nolesfan 12/07/07
DC...Trickett does NOT like guys over 300 pounds. Would we take one with no zone blocking experience...probably so but only if he though he would do well in his system. When Trickett first got to FSU he made all of the Lineman go on a diet. He has no room for 300+ pounders on this team. He doesn't like them and they don't work for him. He does go after 5* prospects on the OL, and you also have to remember that Trickett is an ex-USMC so it's not like he is the easiest of guys to play for. You know as well as I do, some of these kids have big heads and think their **** don't stink. So why go play for a coach that is actually going to make you work for that starting job all 4 years?
ChadNole 12/07/07
i am breathing again tho.....FYI
DC Nolesfan 12/07/07
Obviously they don't use rivals.com, but they sure as hell go after the biggest prospects in the country. If a kid has no buzz, how would they learn about him?

And yes, Trickett would sign any 5 star 6'5" 320 pound lineman regardless of experience. He just can't get them. He would be nuts to shy away because they had never zone blocked. Trickett is a good coach and can teach a kid the scheme
DC Nolesfan 12/07/07
Updated commit list up by the way.
ChadNole 12/07/07
Breathe DC. I didn't say 5 stars doesn't matter. Overall though, the star ratings don't mean much. Are they a good initial evaluation tool for fans like us? Of course. Do you think Trickett and Jimbo log on to Scout or Rivals to see what the so called experts have them rated? Nope. They evaluate the talent themselves based on the scheme they want to run. Take Trickett for example with his zone blocking scheme...think he is going to go after a 5* with no Zone block experience that stands 6'3 and weighs 320? Nope he's not. He'd much rather take that 3 or 4 star guy that fits his system and style that stands 6'3 and weighs 280.
ChadNole 12/07/07
and regardless of stars, i was saying the need has not been addressed because we only have 1 committ
DC Nolesfan 12/07/07
edit: "3 stars tells me he blows" (he meaning datko).

ive stated this before but the reason fsu cant get big time offensive lineman is because they go to schools with legit O-lines and running games. FSU has traditionally recruited pass blockers. The big time guys want to go to running teams.
DC Nolesfan 12/07/07
I strongly disagree with 5 stars meaning nothing. Of course you have blue chips turn into busts (X Lee) and lower rated players every now and then turn out good, but for the most part you want high profile guys.

I have no love for a 3 star lineman because of the following:

My brother coached Zach Hillary at Winter Springs. Have you heard of him? He committed a few years back but has yet to become eligible. The kid is rated 3 stars and has never taken a snap on offense in his life. On top of that, he wasn't even good on the defensive line. He will never see a D-1 football field, but Andy Sexton said he would be a future first rounder at left tackle. Not to compare sexton to trickett, but if this guy is rated 3 stars, that pretty much tells you what you will get. A guy who has never taken a snap on offense should be 1 or 2 stars. So 3 stars tells me he blows. Look at all the 3 star guys we have gotten the last several years. any of them good??
DC Nolesfan 12/07/07
It's easier to have patience with proven coaches like Fisher and Trickett rather than Jeffrey and company. Plus it's only been a year. Like I said, give them time to get their players in. We have lots to look forward to!!
ChadNole 12/07/07
Don't get me wrong, I pray each day for the return to glory, or at least to bead Miami and Florida.

The draft class does look good, we need to get some 5 stars on the O line though...practicing patience has been difficult waiting for the Noles turn it around.
Gator Bowl 12/07/07
Patience Grasshoppa. Remember stars don't mean much. Trickett for one doesn't give a rats **** what your rating is. He looks at your build and potential. You likely hardly ever see 5 star guys on the OL from Trickett. He finds the diamonds in the rough.
ChadNole 12/07/07
whoops i forgot about sorrency.....that makes 3 five stars.....my mistake fellas (as usual)
DC Nolesfan 12/07/07
Best class ever? Pretty sure we have had several more 5 stars in one class. Sure we have a bunch of 4 stars, but I don't think it can be argued as our best class ever. Especially considering our biggest need has not even been addressed at all. The exciting thing, however, is that we NEVER EVER sign this many people so early. We go into January with like 3 committs and then swoop in for a surge at the end. Kudos for the early progress!
DC Nolesfan 12/07/07
TDs and PPG are completely irrellevant. Have you compared the schedules? 2006 schedule was absolute cake and 2007 schedule was absolute murder. Not to mention that TDs and PPG are very, very generic stats. I'm talking about watching the 2 offenses and comparing them. Also, all these players are JB's players. Give them time
DC Nolesfan 12/07/07
Next year will be a difference. Maybe not much but it will be. Consider that Jimbo and Trickett still need to bring in their types of players. Look at the commitment list...it's possibly our best class ever! Still some surprises yet to come.
ChadNole 12/07/07
36 offensive touchdowns 2006 vs. 28 offensive touchdowns 2007, not sure what accounts for the 500% but I admire your optimism. I have along with everyone else hopes that he can turn the O around.

I agree with you about the D though.
Gator Bowl 12/06/07
The bowl is actually at 3pm. It was originally announced as 4:00...but has since been changed to 3:00.
Chief Osceola 12/06/07
And as far as the "move", consider it like an ex girlfriend telling a guy they will get back together as soon as she breaks it off with her new man. Does she have to go back with him? Hell no.......and FSU doesn't have to go with Fisher, nor does he have to wait around for Bobby to leave

FYI, Bobby will not coach another 5 years. One more bad year and he is gone. If they do well, then 2-3 more years max
DC Nolesfan 12/06/07
I think Jimbo did a great job with the offense if you compare the strides they made to years past. The O was 500% better than the 2 previous seasons. Now the problem is the defense. Give Trickett and Fisher another year or 2 and our offense will be great
DC Nolesfan 12/06/07
I'm not sure I like the move though...what if Bobby decides to coach for another 5 years or more...is Jimbo going to sit around and wait, probably not. Besides he's never been a head coach and honestly didn't do too great of a job with the offense this year, but to his credit it needs a lot of work...
Gator Bowl 12/06/07
yes that is great news rimel. i will be sleeping better knowing (for the most part) that he will not depart for an HC position. However, coaches ALWAYS have the opportunity to leave, just like FSU still has every right to interview for the HC position and not give it to Jimbo. Contracts are somewhat pointless these days, cuz there is always an out and no gurantees
DC Nolesfan 12/06/07
Well at least now we know who the successor to Bobby Bowden will be. Jimbo signed a contract to be the next coach when Bobby retires...
Gator Bowl 12/06/07
i may have to work to cover the offices in my region because im going out of town for xmas. but i guran dam tee that i will be sprinting to the closest bar to watch when i get off if this is the case!
DC Nolesfan 12/05/07
Crap...It's New Years Eve...no work. Shutup!
ChadNole 12/05/07
Has anyone else noticed that the game is on a Monday at 4:00pm or did I just read that wrong? I don't get off work until 4:30. Thank God for DVR!
ChadNole 12/05/07
wow you are trooper for traveling to this game. i would say it will be 80% UK fans, so we will need all the support we can get.
DC Nolesfan 12/05/07
too right dude...too right. Enjoy the game I hope the trip is a good one. Yes I hope we learned something from the UF Blowout...a loss by one or a loss by 30 is still a loss !!! Time to sell the farm Mickey and employ the "Student Body North" Philosophy !!! Get some heat on Woodson and at least make it challanging for him !!! GO NOLES !!!
4thand1 12/04/07
Thanks Chad. I'm not overly optimistic that we'll win...but it's bound to be more fun in Nashville on NYEve than at home.
Chief Osceola 12/04/07
By the way Chief....have a good time. I hope its worth it.
ChadNole 12/04/07
Woodson is going to give us problems. We'll have to step up the pressure on him. Someone tell MA to call me before he maps out the game plan.
ChadNole 12/04/07
Bought my tickets and booked my hotel yesterday for Nashvegas! Let's go bowling!
Chief Osceola 12/04/07
let's thank god that UK's defense is awful, because their offense is gonna hang about 50 on us.

All the talk about Bobby retiring after next year is a not so relevant because he will be offered a 1 year deal every single year. he is the coach as long as he wants to be (god willing)
DC Nolesfan 12/03/07
Its official....The Daily's are smarter than the .com sites....lol. Bobby Bowden accepted on behalf of the Noles....their 26th straight Bowl Invitation...and Invite to the Gaylord Hotels Music City Bowl....against Coach Rich Brooks and the University of Kentucky Wildcats. The game goes at 4pm December 31st at LP Field in Nashville Tennessee.
4thand1 12/02/07
So we'll assume now that the Buckeyes are #1 again...so then who the hell is #2 ??? My Gut instinct tells me that LSU is going to face the Buckeyes in New Orleans. However I really think it should be Oklahoma.
4thand1 12/02/07
Bobby Bowden just signed a 1 year extension this afternoon...please no more talk of Spurrier
Gator Bowl 11/30/07
Last thing this team needs is Steve Spurrier coaching this team, they don't need a new offensive philosophy change...I agree stick with Jimbo. This team needs continuity with the coaching staff...and sticking with this scheme and hopefully getting as much success with it as they can
As for Spurrier...say what you will about him. I think he's a great coach !!! I was glad the day he left UF. I hated him as much as anyone else, but you can't knock the job he did at UF. He'll never be the coach at FSU, my whole point there is that a/ We want the best possible candidate in the next HC...he has huge shoes to fill. b/ I was more intrigued I think in how Spurrier at FSU would affect UF and the Gator Nation than what that would do for us. Either way its NEVER going to happen.
4thand1 11/29/07
Still reading in the Daily's that Kentucky in the Music City Bowl is where we are heading for the Bowl game. The .Com sources still are unanimous in their call for the Car Care Bowl against UConn. I don't know about you but either matchup works for me and should be a good game.
4thand1 11/29/07
We have a greater chance of making a BCS game than there is of Mark Richt coming back to Tallahassee. Everything I'm hearing and reading is telling me that the HC job will be Jimbo's when Bobby does leave. I also hear thru the grapevine that Bobby's new deal (current contract expires in January) will be his last at FSU. That suggests that Bobby and P.K. have already discussed his retirement. I'm not saying that its happening soon...but the topic has been brought up. Either way Bobby is here as long as he wants to be...and Jimbo is being groomed as the replacement...and that is either in...or about to go in his new contract. Both Bobby and P.K. are trying to get the entire coaching staff locked up long-term.
4thand1 11/29/07
i don't know many noles fans who wouldn't want richt back. why the hard feelings when he left for an HC job at a prime time school?
DC Nolesfan 11/29/07
Too many people still sour about Richt leaving to want him back.
ChadNole 11/29/07
exactly Chad, that is what ive been screaming on noledigest.com. there had to have been a deal made behind closed doors that he would be the next HC. However, let's hope he doesn't take a HC position somewhere in the meantime.

ATLfan, the VERY LAST person i want is mickey andrews. id take steve spurrier as HC and Jimmy Johnson as an assistant first! (haha that would be sick)

you are right about richt as well. however, the poll is who you would "want". also, 3 or 4 years ago i was convinced that richt wouldn't even consider leaving for FSU, but now i think there is at least a small chance.
DC Nolesfan 11/29/07
It's going to be Jimbo boys. Think about it...why would he turn down HC offers even though they were at smaller schools and more money to be OC at Alabama just to come to FSU?
ChadNole 11/29/07
Richt isn't gonna leave UGA and they're not gonna let him leave either. what about Terry Bowden? i think he'd be a reasonable choice.....and quite frankly, i don't think Mickey Andrews wants the job.
ATLfan7 11/29/07
H-E-L-L NO....NOOOO Spurrier!!!! If Spurrier comes to Tallahassee, i'd have to burn all my FSU stuff and start rooting for someone else....he is the Anti-Christ. LOL
ATLfan7 11/29/07
4thand1, bobby isnt gonna be there forever. i wasnt saying he should be run out of town, just who would u want when he does leave. lighten up you spurrier circle jerker! haha jk
DC Nolesfan 11/29/07
what do u mean by desertion? you mean he took the job before the season was over?
DC Nolesfan 11/29/07
Question on the survey above...for those (42%) who voted for Mark Richt, do you not remember his desertion prior to the Orange Bowl National Championship Game? I also hope the Surrier votes were a joke...
Gator Bowl 11/29/07
Sorry Boys if I don't get too excited about the recruiting wars. I know the whole coaching staff is on the road right now trying to land commits...but until they sign the dotted line...I'm not going to get too excited about it yet. Especially considering one of the weakest areas and greatest needs...the O-Line...presently has just a single commit. I'll follow it but with a grain of salt until signing day in February.
4thand1 11/28/07
The Big East handed out their Bowl Bids today...and UConn accepted the Big East bid to the Meineke Car Care Bowl in Charlotte. The other Big East team in the running for that Bowl...Cincinnati is going to the PapaJohn's Bowl. It is widely rumoured that it will be FSU meeting UConn in the Care Care Bowl. The other possibility is the Music City Bowl in Nashville against an SEC team...perhaps Kentucky. However I would be stunned if the Music City Bowl didn't take Wake Forest to play either Kentucky or Alabama. I expect that FSU will accept the Car Care Bowl bid this weekend.
4thand1 11/28/07
OK so I'm not so sure I'm happy with that new poll....I'm a Bobby Backer and always will be. However for the record I'm the one who voted for Steve Spurrier...wouldn't that just frost the Gaytors to see Spurrier in Garnett and Gold...lol.
4thand1 11/28/07
Where's the love for Jeff Bowden on the poll lol...but I honestly don't know who it should it be
yes you voted for PDUB!!!!
DC Nolesfan 11/28/07
By the way boys...we landed a new recruit. 4* JUCO RB Tavares Pressley. Most say he's quick like Dunn and strong like Greg Jones. I saw his video on youtube. Looks real good tome.
ChadNole 11/28/07
Lol true.
LOL Badger. The 60 yarder was sick for sure. I'm still not wetting myself over him like others, cuz he has been awful in more games than he has been great.

the only positive is that we don't have to play florida again until next year! haha
DC Nolesfan 11/27/07
If you're looking for a positive, Cismesia kicked pretty well. Ummm yeah I can't think of anything else to say that is positive.
Hmmmm....that was bitter wasn't it ????
4thand1 11/26/07
I certainly agree with you on the back 7 DC...but why stop there...the whole damm Defense has been bad. Started the 1st game of the year against Clemson. We couldn't tackle then...and we can't tackle now. Did anyone in the front 4 even touch Harvin on Saturday Night ??? Did any of them even record a tackle ??? Road pilons would have been more effective. Every time I looked it was a DB making the tackle on Garvin.
You don't win many games when your leading tackler is a DB. Screw sending the boys home for Christmas. Right after Exam's send them to Mickey's "Learn How to Tackle
Camp"
in Lake Buena Vista. (That's Mickey as in Mickey Mouse...not Andrews)
4thand1 11/26/07
last year i had said if bowden had any pride or dignity he would decline the emerald bowl, but i guess you have to look at the bowl streak, and the seniors deserve 1 more game.

anybody ready to jump on my bandwagon that our back 7 on defense is the worst we've had in 20 years?? i mean, there isnt a guy in the back 7 worth a ****. all that **** geno talked, he didnt say anything after the game. at least dekota watson had enough balls to say "we just quit, they crammed it down our throats and we quit"

our defense is in a big trouble folks, BIG TROUBLE

godaddy.com bowl or bust
DC Nolesfan 11/26/07
Anyways.....for the record...the early predictions now have FSU in the Meineke Car Care Bowl against the Cincinnati Bearcats. There is still some talk about the Music City Bowl in Nashville....but they will likely want Wake Forest instead (Better ticket sales). Maryland will make the trip to Boise. There is still a chance at a return to the Emerald Bowl in San Francisco...but seeing that we were there last year....they will likely take Georgia Tech instead. So its the either the Car Care Bowl or the Music City Bowl....with my money on the Car Care Bowl against the Big East.
4thand1 11/25/07
Why did we even bother to board the buses for Gainesville ??? I mean if we really thought we had no chance to win...if we really thought we had no way of containing Tim Tebow...that what was the point of going thru the motions ???? Because that all that was....just going thru the motions !!!! I would rather have lost big completely selling out on both sides of the ball...trying to make something happen...than to lose like we did just trying to make it look good for the National TV audience and helping Tebow win the damm Heismen Trophy. That was a piss poor effort on both sides of the ball. We should decline the bowl bid because after that display....we don't deserve one !!!
4thand1 11/25/07
that was one ugly game.....4 field goals?! so will it be the Emerald Bowl....or Humanitarian.....or (gasp) the Meineke Car Care Bowl? LOL
ATLfan7 11/25/07
FSU 65, UF 51....Get use to it Gaytor fans....the trend continues tonight !!! GO NOLES !!!
4thand1 11/24/07
Check out this blog and let him have it...

http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/80564
Gator Bowl 11/21/07
Great call time to take down some Gators....and Happy Thanksgiving to all
Yes, Happy Thanksgiving to all of my fellow Brother's and Sister's in the Seminoles Nation. Enjoy all the blessings of the day with Family and Friends and BE SAFE !!! Also enjoy this weekend...one of the Holyest on the Football calender !!! May the hits be hard, the passes crisp, the kicks true, and the runs devine. Give Thanks that despite all our shortcommings....Yes we are Bowl eligible !!! GO NOLES...KICK THE SNOT OUT OF UF !!!
AMEN !!!
4thand1 11/21/07
Happy Thanksgiving to all! And if you're traveling....be safe! GO NOLES! :-)
ATLfan7 11/21/07
Good point
Here's what I'm I'm thinking Badger....If you look at the the "Gaytors 3 losses this year...they just sucked against Auburn...but both LSU, and especially Georgia got some heat on Tebow and attacked UF's Offense, before they were able to get on track. LSU had 2 sacks and Georgia put Tebow on his back 6 times !!! I think sitting back and trying to employ a cover scheme against the spread just plays into their Offensive gameplan !!! It opens up the run game, for Tebow, Harvin and Moore...and that in turn gives more space for Harvin, Caldwell and Murphy to beat us in the air. I think if Mickey sits back and trys to play Defense then this gets ugly...and in a hurry. Georgia sold out and attacked the "Gaytors" each and every play. They put it on their front 4 and backers to get some heat and their Corners and Safeties to make plays. More importantly...the refused to let Tebow beat them. It was an awesome defensive gameplan cooked up by Mark Richt and Willie Martinez. I'm convinced we need to ATTACK...sit back and we're Gator Bait !!!
4thand1 11/20/07
Just in case you've just awoken from a season long slumber....the game is a National televised event on CBS. Its the second half of their double-bill with Tennessee-Kentucky the 1st game.
4thand1 11/20/07
I agree Tebow is obviously the main cog in their offense. But I think it would be foolish to load the box with UF's spread offense, if you load the box on the Gators then your going to be in for a long day with their recievers one on one against our corners...not good. I do agree though they should have a spy on Tebow.
Thanks Geno for opening your mouth and providing Locker Room wall motivation for the "Gaytors". You've been almost invisible all year long. Granted the pick in the BC game was the capper....but now it will all mean nothing if you don't back up what you have Preached !!! Hey the choir is with you on this one....but nobody else has managed to do what you've said is going to happen on Saturday !!! This game is all about the PT players showing up and making a difference...so I have just one question for you Geno...Are you a PTP (Prime Time Player) or a Chump ??? Guess we'll find out on Saturday !!!
4thand1 11/20/07
BOWL UPDATE !!!

The general consensus is still that the Noles will be heading to Nashville for the Gaylord Hotels Music City Bowl, with the Mississippi State Bulldogs of the SEC. However there is still some talk about a return visit to San Francisco for the Emerald Bowl and a meeting with Oregon State. Its more likely that Georgia Tech will get the ACC berth though. I also saw today for the first time the Meineke Car care Bowl in Charlotte mentioned...with the Scarlet Knights of Rutgers being the competition. That would leave Wake and Alabama in the Music City Bowl...a better matchup for that Bowl game. Still the smart money still says Nashville VS Miss.St.
4thand1 11/20/07
Ya the "Gaytors" Offense revolves around Tebow. He's the key...yes they have other weapons like Harvin...but he ain't doin anything if Tebow can't get the ball to him !!! I'm with you DC...load the **** out of the box...blitz every singlke play....turn the heat up on Tebow like he's never seen before. Pound the crap out of him....I want to see snot bubbles comming out of his nose !!! As for the Offense...two words Preston Parker...give him 40 touches !!! the "Gaytors" will be focusing on him I'm sure...so Greg Carr if you are ever going to show up this year....Saturday would be a good time !!! And for God sakes Drew...play within yourself...let DeCody, Preston, Greg, and Antone do their thing...don't pull a Chris Rix and try and do it by yourself !!! GO NOLES !!! I don't know about you guys but I'm really getting pumped up for this one...I have a good feeling about this one !!!
4thand1 11/20/07
i didnt mean they shouldnt cover harvin, im just saying we could put our 6 best DB's on him and he would still get open, so i was simply disagreeing with "focusing" on him. Tebow is the key. Shut him down and thats when they lose. Check the Auburn game
DC Nolesfan 11/20/07
i agree with the offense needing to step up, because that is the key to a potential win here. we can only do so much to stop the gaytors offense, and our defense has struggled, so the offense has got to score some points.

i disagree however with focusing on anything but tebow. you have to give them harvin, because nobody in the country can cover him, especially what we've got!!! Tebow, tebow, tebow. Put 8 or 9 in the box and put 2 linebackers spying tebow every play. Put a hat on him everytime he crosses that line of scrimmage. Our only chance is to stop Tebow from running the ball and make him beat us with his arm.

go noles
DC Nolesfan 11/20/07
FSU's defense needs to keep an eye on Percy Harvin this game. Don't get to caught up in stopping Tebow because it's been said in a prior post UF has a whole lot of offensive weapons that can hurt the Noles just as badly as Tebow. If FSU wants to win this game keep it low scoring. I really don't think the Noles offense can keep up with the Gators if it turns into a track meet. FSU has got to find ways to produce some points, Preston, De'Cody, Greg it's all time to step up
just like Andrews said, emotional intensity is important for a game like this...but not as important as discipline and staying tight defensively. UF has more offensive weapons than Tebow; they just don't use them as much....regardless, our Noles should be ready for anything now that Hayes has opened his big mouth.
ATLfan7 11/20/07
Rimel, are you saying our defense is good right now?? We can't cover anybody, can't tackle, the linebackers dissapear. I watch Nicholson and he get's eaten up by blocks 90% of the time. Tony Carter plays man, lines up 12 yards off the line of scrimmage and runs backwards when the ball is snapped. what the **** is that?? get up there jam ur guy and learn how to play man!!!!

All that **** Geno is talking about "Tebow going down", he better back it up. I haven't seen these linebackers hit anybody all year. If I'm Andrew's, I would make sure that Tebow does not beat us with his legs. Knock him out of the game for god's sake!!!
DC Nolesfan 11/20/07
Oh and scratch those thoughts on the Mens BB program. Len's in for a long year...not enough experience or a go to guy. a 500 record would be a coup !!! Go Lady Noles against Texas !!!
4thand1 11/19/07
My early thoughts on this one against the (team that cannot be named...although I Love "Gaytors") is that we should be able to use emotion to keep this one close until halftime...however there is just too much talent over there for our guys to stay with them the whole game...I think they pull away late. Mind you history...for what its worth also shows that not much about what happened in the 1st 10 or 11 games matters much going into this one. The game is played on the field...not in the numbers. Why can't we take another piece of the "Swamp" back to Tallahassee !!! I thought early on that they had a chance....despite their youth and inexperience....to be as good or better than they were last year....that didn't happen though. Lets get a hat or two on Mr.Tebow and get him thinking !!! GO NOLES !!!!
4thand1 11/19/07
DC slow down with the 600 yards...that was on an FAU defense who is crumb.

Watch for a close game, defense will be a factor though.
Gator Bowl 11/19/07
i have a feeling our defense is going to give up a lot of points to the gaytors. their offense is legit, and our defense seems to be struggling in every area right now.

im hoping we can at least compete, but it's looking like UF could have 600 yards of offense on what we got. the good thing is that their defense isnt as good as last year and our offense is better. however, our defense was MUCH better last season
DC Nolesfan 11/19/07
Well that wasn't pretty....but that sounds like a broken record doesn't it. How many times have we said that this year ??? A win is a win, is a win. Note to Jimbo...if you want any chance against (the name that cannot be named)...get the ball in De'Cody and Preston's hands every single play !!! We can score on (the name that cannot be named)'s defense...but can we stop their QB ???
4thand1 11/17/07
DC you on ????
4thand1 11/17/07
Have we reached such a low point that we are already talking about Noles BBall??? haha. i would say your assesment of them being a bubble team is correct, considering they are one of the last teams out for about 4 years straight now?

as far as the RB situation, how can a D-1 program not have an RB to start? Most teams can go 7 or 8 deep at that position.
DC Nolesfan 11/14/07
Couple of quick thoughts. First where do you guys see FSU men's basketball finishing this year? I kind of think middle of the pack and once again being an NCAA tournament bubble team. Secondly I wouldn't want to Miss St. they're a pretty good team....I might be more interested in facing Arkansas(if they do end up at Music City Bowl) because Arkansas' really isn't all that good in my unprofessional opinion
Switching gears for a moment....I see Swanny had a big night against Georgia Southern on Monday. He's going to have to carry the Noles this year and be magic if they are going to get anything done this year in the ACC. I'm thinking .500 would be a good record for the Hoopsters. Go Lady Noles against Kennesaw State !!!
4thand1 11/13/07
I was pissed at the moment at Ponder since he seemed like the easiest target for my frustrations, but it wasn't his fault. Sure he could've made better reads on where to throw the ball, but it was his first college game EVER...and against a pumped up VT crowd...and within our own 10 yard line. Plus, he showed that he could play in the 3rd quarter. The stars weren't alligned for us Saturday night...but Ponder did all and more than what could've been asked from him. Kudos.
Chief Osceola 11/13/07
Just read the Blog on the "Sentinel" and it sounds like Drew is the starter against the Terps...X is the backup, as he has been cleared to play and Ponder will be # 3 on the chart. Richardson practiced as running back and might see action in that role. Smith is even more banged up after the Tech game. Our lack of depth might be an issue this week. The MASH unit was overflowing after the Tech game.
BOWL UPDATE : Still pretty murky...but it still sounds like we're heading to Nashville for the Music City Bowl against either Arkansas or Mississippi State. Also saw a prediction of a return to the Emerald Bowl for a meeting with Oregon State. Sorry "Blue" lovers...still no trip to Boise....lol
4thand1 11/13/07
it was pretty sick, but not ponder's fault. the fumble was due to lack of experience, and the picks were due to the situation and play calling

this kid is FAR more talented than Drew
DC Nolesfan 11/13/07
I took a long weekend and after Saturday's game didn't feel inclined to get online at the house. Ouch. Christian Ponder looked good until the 4th. Then a fumble and 2 back to back interceptions...and a safety by DVon. Ouch.
Chief Osceola 11/13/07
i agree 4thand1. i would even go so far as to say if we beat maryland, lose to uf, and end up 7-5 this season wasnt that bad (considering our schedule). looking at our schedule at the begining of the year, it wouldnt have surprised me if only won 3 or 4 games, so im not that pissed

yes development of good players falls on the coaches. just look at all the underachievers at fsu that go into the pros and become pro-bowlers and such
DC Nolesfan 11/13/07
OMG did I just say all of that outloud ????
4thand1 11/12/07
You know I'm going to agree with all of you....the quality and quantity of who we are bringing in just isn't there anymore. However having said that....there is more quality in the cupboard right now than we are showing. Alot of these so called bluechippers just aren't panning out the way they should be. Rolle is a prime example of that !!! The blame for that falls squarely on the Coaching staff. All is not lost yet though boys. Win the next two and at the end of the day I think we'll all say that on the whole this season was a success. I don't think they can just throw in the towel and look ahead until the Bowl game. I guess the bottomline is the rebuilding of the program isn't going to be an overnight thing...it might take years !!! Patience...as hard as that is...is really what's needed now !!!
4thand1 11/12/07
not only has recruiting hurt us, but we havent developed the good recruits that we get. look at myron rolle. he should be developing much more than he is.

if u look at our recruiting classes over the last 7 years, we have had some top classes, but a lot of the players never develop or never even become eligible
DC Nolesfan 11/12/07
what's up fellows...i am back....and honestly I am glad we lost that game. The defense needs a wake up call....Tony Carter was playing hurt alot of other guys where playing hurt...i just hoped some of the other all-american defensive players would have stepped up but they didn't...like i said before and i am going to say again...our problem is not coaching or scheme...its PLAYERS!!!...we don't have the horses anymore....since Richt left and amato left...they took that recruiting with them...so its just going ot take time for Jimbo Fisher and Amato how is back now to get those players back..look at GA...Richt gets a top 5 recruiting class every year...and they are going to be nice for years to come...just admit it guys...we don't have the PLAYERS...Clemson has better players than we do...lol...lol
irvgaboy 11/12/07
and i have to state that the offense did not lose this game. our defense was HORRIBLE in the first half. va tech's offense is terrible and we let a freshman QB do whatever he wanted for the entire half. they were on pace to have 500-600 yards of offense. 3rd and 31????? qb draw???? when was the last time u saw fsu give up something like that. anyways, the D was great in the second half, but if they had been even decent in the first half, we may have won that game.
DC Nolesfan 11/11/07
i have to agree with badger and disagree. i expected ponder to make mistakes, which he did. however, he brought us back and gave us the lead in like 10 minutes of gametime. with weatherford, we would have lost 33-6.

im just over watching drew play. it is SO PAINFUL! Get Ponder ready with a week's worth of practice on the first team and pull the plug on drew.

WHAT DO WE HAVE TO LOSE?? Let's get ready for the future
DC Nolesfan 11/11/07
After Weatherford got knocked out...literally apparently I kinda thought they would lose...you just can't go to a freshman quarterback in that environment and expect success.
That one stings....man....just when you think things are about to turn around....then you get that !!! So who starts next week....and does it really matter ??? Hey on the plus side that trip to Boise may be back on !!!
4thand1 11/10/07
Damm kids anyways....maybe its a good thing I didn't see that 4th quarter meltdown....crap !!!
4thand1 11/10/07
and back to reality
DC Nolesfan 11/10/07
HOW ABOUT THE DEFENSIVE TURNAROUND? NIGHT AND DAY
DC Nolesfan 11/10/07
weatherford is out with a concussion dog

ponder better get this job if they win this game
DC Nolesfan 11/10/07
CHRISTIAN PONDER!!!!!!!! HOLY ****
DC Nolesfan 11/10/07
I see you DeCody ****...I see you Christian Ponder....GO NOLES !!!!
4thand1 11/10/07
DC you still there ??? Talk to me brother...I had First Aid training...Crap now I have to go and get my kids....what's happpened...why is Ponder in and why hasn't this kid been our QB all year....lol.
4thand1 11/10/07
nobody to talk **** with me?

did anybody see the screen blackout and when i came back on the guy was running down the sideline?
DC Nolesfan 11/10/07
ok it's 11 AM and im ready! i just did a variation of the ray lewis dance and crowed like a rooster for no reason!

GO NOLES
DC Nolesfan 11/10/07
TOUCHDOWN FSU!

What a great start to the game! Wait a minute, where am i?
DC Nolesfan 11/09/07
well, stupidity is not a crime.....but it should be. LOL
ATLfan7 11/09/07
I don't know what he did...all I've seen has just said for "breaking team rules".
Chief Osceola 11/08/07
Not worried about Ball being out at all.

Let him join X Lee at the bar watching the game :)
DC Nolesfan 11/08/07
Gentlemen....I'm sorry if this sounds Callous and all....but Marcus Ball is an idiot. He just comes back from missing two games...helps spark the Defense and now he's suspended for breaking team rules....ridiculous. Those scholarship players are givin a GOD given priviledge to play College Football and get a FREE education at the same time. I would give my left nut for that opportunity, All you have to do is follow the rules....the rules clearly spelled out at the start of each year. Ball is a redshirt Junior...he's been there almost 4 years....whatever he did....he should have known better. Thanks Marcus....way to put your team first and yourself second !!!

Oh and Happy 78th Bobby...here's hoping the best gift you get this year is another win over Frank !!!
4thand1 11/08/07
you have GOT to be kidding, Chief?! haven't heard that yet.....what did Ball do to get suspended?
ATLfan7 11/08/07
Happy Birthday Bobby!

Though Marcus Ball's suspension isn't the best of gifts.
Chief Osceola 11/08/07
No kidding, happy birthday to the Father of the FSU Football!
DC Nolesfan 11/08/07
Happy 78th Birthday to Bobby Bowden!
ATLfan7 11/08/07
Thanks for the tip. I just deleted myself from the 2 fannation groups that weren't seminole oriented. Didn't know that had an affect on things. Thanks....
Chief Osceola 11/07/07
it's probably cuz you are in a big group, like that stupid fan nation poll group. i get a bunch from that
DC Nolesfan 11/07/07
Chief you should ask the "mods" i would assume there has to be a way to block someone
Is there any way to block users from sending me "fan mail"? That Big Cat dude sends dozens of friggin messages a day and it sucks having to go through and delete them all everytime I login.
Chief Osceola 11/06/07
I agree about the Bryant comment. Braynt was supposed to be a stud too. He never could get it together.
ChadNole 11/06/07
i agree...i dont think he is that bad, but i think he is severely overated and needs to take some heat for that game. however, he is 20 times the CB that JR Bryant is, so it's not like we cant play him
DC Nolesfan 11/06/07
LOL 4th! We won't be in that shatty bowl. I bet the predictors expected us to lose to BC, VT and UF but beating Maryland to become Bowl eligible. We'll be in a decent bowl this year.

DC, I was getting ripped for crapping on Carter too. He can be a good CB when he wants to be but the bottom line is he got burnt against BC. He had a bad game.
ChadNole 11/06/07
Yes....yes I'm kidding about selling my kids !!! That was a cheap plagerizm of Monte Python's "Meaning of Life". One of the all time Great Movies !!! GO NOLES !!!

p.s. I'll rob a bank instead...lol
4thand1 11/05/07
Oh ya and one more thing....I've suddenly come to my wits and decided that the Humanitarian Bowl against Boise State is just fine by me....Its only 14 hours for me to drive to Boise !!! I'll have to sell my kids to make the trip, but its FSU and a Bowl Game baby !!!
4thand1 11/05/07
Also Props to Drew, Antone, De'Cody, Preston, and the O-line for Man'in up against a better team and getting it done. That was Florida State Football. That is what we have been missing all year. Now we know we can do it...no more excuses....let's run the table !!! GO NOLES !!!
4thand1 11/05/07
Famous last words...but there's no way that VT can pass the ball and pick apart our secondary like BC could, should and did. Credit to the Defense and Geno in particular for coming up with the big play when we needed it !!!
4thand1 11/05/07
im getting ripped on nole digest for talkin down on carter

even though there is a whole thread about him sucking
DC Nolesfan 11/05/07
i agree.....BC would have had 0-7 points if he could cover!
DC Nolesfan 11/05/07
Had Carter made a few plays on those big passes we would have won more considerably IMO.

Hopefully VT doesn't realize that they can pick us apart by throwing to those two.
ChadNole 11/05/07
haha amen to that chad!!! i seriously doubt they could, so lets go with rolle helping out carter and williams NEVER asked to do man coverage!
DC Nolesfan 11/05/07
Great game and even more fun to watch. Can't wait for VT!!!!!

Maybe if we put Carter and Williams on the same guy, one of them will actually be able to stop the guy!
ChadNole 11/05/07
voice gone.....shoulder borderline dislocated from fist pumping high fiving and piling up at the bar!

WOW......i take everything i've ever said about geno! thats what we've been missing. somebody making a play when the game is on the line (geno, ****, and weatherford). an almost flawless game by 21 out of 22 players (Tony Carter gave up the 17 points single handedly)

GO NOLES!
DC Nolesfan 11/05/07
YEAAAAAAAH BABY !!!! The Win of the year by far.....BOWL Eligable !!!! Great Game.....That's the way it should be GO NOLES !!!!
4thand1 11/04/07
DE'CODY.....He's at the 15, the 10, the 5......I see you De'Cody ****......Touchdown Noles !!! Anybody smell an upset !!! GO NOLES !!!!
4thand1 11/03/07
Crap !!!!
4thand1 11/03/07
PRESTON PARKER ROCKS DUDE !!!! GO NOLES !!!!
4thand1 11/03/07
Nice kick walk on boy !!! C'mom Drew let's use this chance !!!
4thand1 11/03/07
i hope we can pull this 1 out boys! we have 3 chances to salvage something from this season, starting tom. night!

go noles!!!!!!!!!
DC Nolesfan 11/02/07
GO NOLES!!
ChadNole 11/02/07
a good draft pick isnt gonna do us much good considering they blow draft picks like michael jordan at a casino. not to mention we need 19 out of 22 players (4-5 years at earliest to rebuild). pair that with already having been in rebuilding mode for about 5 years and that brings on some major frustration!
DC Nolesfan 10/31/07
OMG ESPN is projecting the Noles to play in the Humanitarian Bowl in Boise against the Broncos ?!?!?! Couldn't we just go back tyo the Emerald Bowl and beat up on the Bruins again ???
4thand1 10/30/07
I told my mom last night that the only thing good about this season for Fins fans is a good draft pick!
ChadNole 10/30/07
LoBo, haha never heard that one!

He now plays for my boys. The FINS! The streak is alive folks!
DC Nolesfan 10/30/07
yeah how low down was that? talk about ****.

i too like ocho cinco!
DC Nolesfan 10/30/07
LOL @ chill pill. I haven't heard that in a while.

I always like the Bengals too because of Warrick and Chad Johnson. Then AJ went there but I disowned AJ after he and Rouse broke into LoBo's apartment.
ChadNole 10/30/07
dude thats where i saw the damn article so take a chill pill.

he is one of your favorite noles? he is my favorite player, person, and hero of all time! haha..........i still where his jersey to games. it's a shame he didnt win the heisman otherwise he would def. be in that top 25 players of all time espn is doing. but that list is a crock of **** anyway cuz archie griffin should be top 3 and he was like 23rd. only 2 time heisman winner??????? wow

injuries def. played a roll with warrick, but i dont think that was the entire reason he wasnt succesful. he is a bit on the small side and although very quick, he doesnt have break away speed. he had 1 good year with the bengals, injured the next, then to seattle, and now at home. the bengals are actually my second favorite team nowadays bc of warrick, lol
DC Nolesfan 10/30/07
Lol nice. Good luck to PW in that league. Can't wait to see all of the other college greats that are in this league.
By the way, that was my Napoleon Dynamite GOD!
ChadNole 10/30/07
DC, had you taken the time to get your lazy **** off fannation and post over at Rules, you would have seen the article I posted on there about that last week! GOD!

Anyway, yeah I love P-Dub too. By far one of my favorite Noles. I hope it works out for him...he was on the sidelines for the Miami game.
ChadNole 10/30/07
Yep...I saw it the other day. PW was a great player, and if he weren't constantly injured during his pro days...probably would've been great there too. Hopefully this league will spring board him back to the pros.
Chief Osceola 10/30/07
Did anybody read the article about Peter Warrick giving it another shot in the "all american football league"? The league that is setup for the offseason and will more than likely fail just like the XFL? Im hoping this one can stick around, as their theme is going to be get the players that were good in college, but never made it in the pros (name recognition). Anyways, glad to see my boy P-Dub is getting back on the field. He had signed with an arena team this past winter, but never played a down.

BRING BACK WARRICK! wooohooooo
DC Nolesfan 10/30/07
Good news is...D'vo should be #2 on the depth chart. Let's get him some PT!!
ChadNole 10/30/07
damnit drew, why cant you get in trouble every now and then!
DC Nolesfan 10/30/07
Well this won't help you stay possitive...

X. Lee has been suspended for 2 games for violating team rules.
ChadNole 10/30/07
I'm not saying VT's offense electric or anything like that. I'm not saying the 'Noles can't win against Va Tech either. I just think scoring 20 points against the Hokies d, like you suggest is going to be a challenge. I hope your right and FSU does get the win, but I just dont know, show me something to get positive abot than I'll agree with you
I think VT's defense is too good for us to score 20, but you are correct in saying their offense is horrible. I see this being a defensive struggle that we can win only by default (2 bad offenses), and the fact that we OWN Va Tech (12 in a row!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
DC Nolesfan 10/29/07
DC, electricmetal5

badger,,,VT is seriously overrated and I have been saying that from the start of the season. They have no passing game. Our D will seriously work their O. If we can put up at least 20 on VT, we win.
ChadNole 10/29/07
oh i dont think i saw it yet chad

what is your name on there?
DC Nolesfan 10/29/07
Me and my girfriend went to a halloween party on Saturday. I think FSU is going to lose to both Va Tech and BC. Both Blacksburg and Chestnut Hill aren't very easy places to play. I haven't seen anything that would give me any positive signs about this football team
DC, by the way, the smack I was talking on NoleDigest wasn't directed towards you...it was directed to the guy that posted after you.
ChadNole 10/29/07
Well from what I head Trickett loves him and he is an under the radar type of guy. We'll see though!
ChadNole 10/29/07
I hope Mr. Datko can block !!!
4thand1 10/29/07
my costume must have been a real shocker because people kept saying, "look at this crazy idiot in the fsu shirt"
DC Nolesfan 10/29/07
Ya same for me...just taking the girls to load up on loot. I really don't think we are going to win this weekend at Chestnut Hill, but I like our chances in Blacksburg !!! As for you know who (the name that cannot be spoken outloud) I hope our coaches got a copy of those tapes and are making the mental notes about what Georgia did right. Its either going to be a complete blowout or a whoever touches the ball last kinda game. I just hope we are Bowl eligable by then...GO NOLES !!!
4thand1 10/29/07
Nah, no parties planned for me. Just taking the girls trick-or-treating
ChadNole 10/29/07
anybody go to a costume party this weekend? or plan to on wed? i didnt but my friend went to 1 in a prison stripes costume with vick's name ironed on
DC Nolesfan 10/29/07
FYI

3* OL Andrew Datko committed to FSU!
ChadNole 10/29/07
I think we upset BC or VT. Either one, I don't care.

As for UF, see my post on Rules about that.
ChadNole 10/29/07
Putting up 25 points on the Duke Blue Devils pretty much clinches the ACC in my mind! It would be silly to predict anything other than running the table after that performance!
DC Nolesfan 10/29/07
I'm kinda feelin it too DC. Like you said...BC is coming off the big win over VT and might just underestimate us and lack motivation.

As for Saturday night...@ halftime we had around 275 yards and Duke only had 49...but we only had 9 points. What in the hell?!?! We couldn't score to save our lives Saturday. We HAVE to score to beat BC...or VT...or UF.
Chief Osceola 10/29/07
I just think the will pull it together and win 1 of these big road games. BC is probably not as good as their rank, we own VT historically, and you know we will play UF tough
DC Nolesfan 10/29/07
Wow! Do you have a fever DC? Predicting a possible win against #2 BC? Something isn't right
ChadNole 10/29/07
no it wont work @ BC, but for some reason i have a decent feeling about this game. mr negativity has had an epiphany! i like the fact that BC is coming off that emotional win. If we can win 1 of these road games I will be happy
DC Nolesfan 10/29/07
Our redzone % is horrid this year! I said the same thing. 9-0 at halftime against Duke? Don't get our first TD until 3rd quarter? That won't work @ BC.
ChadNole 10/29/07
so what was the deal? we moved the ball all day between the 20's and then couldnt score in the red zone? i didnt make it to the game watching party but i was watching game tracker at home.

the stats looked nice, but 9-0 after 5-6 trips to the red zone didnt look so good
DC Nolesfan 10/29/07
Sloppy **** win. Had that been BC we would have gotten smoked! We need to get it together.
ChadNole 10/29/07
Well OK it was a win....however unimpressive that was....it was a win....and should create some positive thought entering into the BC game. 500 + yards of offense was nice...almost 200 on the ground was nice. The lack of finish wasn't though. Let's keep in mind that was just Duke...BC is slightly better. But whatever its a win....and now we're one win away from being Bowl eligible. GO NOLES !!!
4thand1 10/28/07
I could learn to love Tennessee girls!
Chief Osceola 10/26/07
on another note....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bClAyp-ZgOE

this of course is just a few, but the ratio of sexy girls to ugly at UT is off the chain
DC Nolesfan 10/26/07
I have a popupblocker...probably why I dont see it
ChadNole 10/26/07
Tech help is best found by talking to Mark or JJ @ the tailgates. Plus free beer. Now that's a combo I like.
Chief Osceola 10/26/07
god, can we get an 800 number for the tech help instead?

i work on fridays....my rule is none on mondays!
DC Nolesfan 10/26/07
You can do the chat/im thing when you log on (it pops up that window) and add as many people as you want to the chat.
Chief Osceola 10/26/07
Rules needs a chat room
ChadNole 10/26/07
To turn off all those annoying emails just click account, then settings, then account settings. Haha...this has turned into Rules technical help now!
Chief Osceola 10/26/07
There is a way...go to settings and then account settings
ChadNole 10/26/07
You'd never know you were a 50 year old 400 pound dude by the pictures. Olay works for sure!
Chief Osceola 10/26/07
I think there is a way to turn that email notification off...I need to do it too

You know you have a fsurules.com email account now right? yourscreenname@fsurules.com
ChadNole 10/26/07
im gonna have to change my email addy, cuz i dont want a damn email for EVERY comment..........gmail links em up though, thats good i guess

give me some time to learn how to navigate this damn place, jeeeeez

then i will put up a real pic of me and reveal that i am really 50 years old and 400 lbs
DC Nolesfan 10/26/07
hahahaha....Chief claimed the first position on that one...I bet there a few that will
ChadNole 10/26/07
click on forums @ the top of the rules page and go read and reply to some
Chief Osceola 10/26/07
Bout time you showed up over there! Haha...I've added you.
Chief Osceola 10/26/07
im there

cant figure out how to do anything, but here is my link

http://fsurules.com/dc_noles_maniac/

add me ****! and find me some hot noles fans in dc

for now my pic is the same on here....lets see how many guys message me sayin "damn ur hot"
DC Nolesfan 10/26/07
That's not the darkside I was referring to. That side is a bit too dark (and final) for my taste
Chief Osceola 10/26/07
cant find a duke shirt......
DC Nolesfan 10/26/07
Hate to spoil the nasty & rainy montage y'all have goin...but it's mostly sunny and about 74 degrees here. :D

Yep...you might as well head on over DC. Come to the darkside. Ha!
Chief Osceola 10/26/07
By the way, it's nasty and rainy here too.
ChadNole 10/26/07
Come on ova DC
ChadNole 10/26/07
fsurules here i come, i guess
DC Nolesfan 10/26/07
today is rainy, nasty, and lame cuz nobody is on here. im gonna hang myself with a Duke shirt!
DC Nolesfan 10/26/07
What? Lee and Weatherford aren't in the top 10?
Say it isn't so DC! This is a conspiracy against the best!
Chief Osceola 10/25/07
See now that's why SI.com needs new writers....stupid!
ChadNole 10/25/07
What it do boys?
ChadNole 10/25/07
SI.com left Weatherford and Lee off the top 10 QB's of 2007 list!

how could this happen?
DC Nolesfan 10/25/07
Yeah...but with his luck this year, if he bet against us, we'd always win. Haha
Chief Osceola 10/25/07
he would be up big if he had bet against fsu in every game! haha

as far as spreads go....let me try to rethink how we have faired

Clemson - didnt cover
UAB - didn't cover
Colorado - didn't cover
Alabama - covered
NC State - covered (pretty sure we did at least)
Wake Forest - didn't cover
Miami - didn't cover

i may have been wrong about wake, but weren't we favored? im thinking it may have been a push though.

if those are correct and he bet 500 on each game, he would be up $1500 :)
DC Nolesfan 10/25/07
I have a friend that has lost over $2000 this year on college bets alone. Aside from the fact that he clearly has a problem...I've been trying my best to get him to bet against FSU every week, since the team he bets for ALWAYS loses. Recent bets he made were Cal over UCLA, GT over BC, Kentucky over SC, Boise over Washington and other shoulda been gimmes (except for the SC/Kentucky game).

I WANT him to be against FSU!
Chief Osceola 10/25/07
i NEVER bet on our against my noles cuz im superstitious but if i did, i would take duke and 17.5 points ALL DAY

i think we will win but 17.5 against anybody is a stretch for us
DC Nolesfan 10/25/07
Who knows. Guess Nike didn't think about it during our glory days. It is one bad*ss looking uniform though! And PLEASE let us win this one.
Chief Osceola 10/25/07
I was wondering why they chose to implement the "unconquered" stuff right in the middle of our downward spiral. Maybe we can win this blackout game huh?
DC Nolesfan 10/25/07
Only 2 days away from this year's Black Out! I'm excited. I missed last year's game where we wore the Unconquered uniforms...where the irony was that we were conquered that game...but anyhow. Can't wait!
Chief Osceola 10/25/07
Tell the engineer to throw it higher next time.
Chief Osceola 10/24/07
whoops i meant i dont have time to at work

haha, edit button please
DC Nolesfan 10/24/07
Well Carr just stopped by and we had one of my engineers throw him a fade route outside my building. I intercepted it and knocked him to the ground. Hope he's ok for Saturday
DC Nolesfan 10/24/07
or sense...either one

WE NEED AN EDIT BUTTON!!!
Chief Osceola 10/24/07
I'll go to DC just as long as I can beat since into some politicians as well. :D
Chief Osceola 10/24/07
haha! Nice oxymoron DC!

Well I guess we just have to agree to disagree on that one DC.
ChadNole 10/24/07
i will sign up for the damn thing one night this week! just dont have time to this week
DC Nolesfan 10/24/07
haha Chief!

i stand by mine as well chad. the only reason you are not gonna stop him is because he is 6'6", not because he is strong or tough. I've seen pansies wrestle the ball away from him. Sometimes he looks like a girl out there.

But i will not bash him anymore. Seeing the story about his sister was a real heartbreaker. Plus I'm sure he could kick my ****!
DC Nolesfan 10/24/07
Chief you ready to make a trip to DC and beat FSURules.com into DC?
ChadNole 10/24/07
I stand by my assessment. If Carr wants that ball you are not going to stop him. If he's lazy and doesn't think that way...you will stop him. We've seen Carr catch far too many difficult balls to catch to think that he does not have the hands or IQ to play WR.
ChadNole 10/24/07
In other news...X was apparently confusing Miami's white and orange uniforms with that of 17'4" Greg Carr too.
Chief Osceola 10/24/07
I'm sorry but Carr simply isn't as good as he should be at that size. I don't think it's lazyness, just seems like he gets outmanned sometimes. Jump balls work most of the time simply cuz he is so tall. Did you see X overthrow him by like 10 feet in the end zone the other day? HE IS 6'6" FOR GOD'S SAKE! How do you overthrow that?
DC Nolesfan 10/24/07
Oh ****! Does that mean I'm not a true fan like DC?

=D
ChadNole 10/24/07
haha when i saw the question about the bowl i mouthed to myself, "the toilet bowl".........chad beat me to it!

sorry to talk bout ur gran maw maw chief
DC Nolesfan 10/24/07
Later irv, if we're not here we'll be at Rules
ChadNole 10/24/07
okay felas i am going to get some work done at work...but i will be back later so we can chat some more...it was good to talk to some real FSU fans for once
irvgaboy 10/24/07
The Toilet Bowl.

CJ is faster than Carr. But he could def be used in similar fashion.
ChadNole 10/24/07
hmm okay...i think the guy can be like calvin johnson...but i think they use him wrong...but on to other things...so what bowl game do you guys think we are going to be in?
irvgaboy 10/24/07
X and DW have hit him on some in routes in a Keyshawn Johnson type of roll.
ChadNole 10/24/07
true..true...well maybe its just how the QBs do it...lol...or when they call it...i just think we can use him more than just for a deep ball weapon
irvgaboy 10/24/07
Everybody can see it coming, but we don't use it at the right times and even though they see it coming it is still very hard to defend against him.
ChadNole 10/24/07
oh okay..i was wondering because every game i watch they act like they can't throw him anything but the jump ball...i am like this dude is nice!!...why don't they run better routes with him...everybody can see that jump ball coming a mile away!!!...lol
irvgaboy 10/24/07
I actually work with a guy that is friends with Carr. Talked to him on the phone once and actually didn't know what to say so I told him I loved him...yeah I know...I'm ****.

Anyway...I think he can be lazy and quit on some plays. But when he's ready to ball you are not going to stop him from getting that ball! He just needs to stay committed for 60 minutes.
ChadNole 10/24/07
Greg is better than he's been playing but I don't know if that's the QBs making him look bad or if he just hasn't stepped up. His route running is better than it was in the past and basically he's a a jump threat only right now. I know he had a sprained wrist in the UM game...
Chief Osceola 10/24/07
lol...DC i like your opinions as well...lol...i wanted to ask you guys...what do you think of Greg Carr?....is he better than what he seems to be or do the QBs make him look bad
irvgaboy 10/24/07
That's my grandma dude!
Chief Osceola 10/24/07
Saw that...not anyone I know.

My MILF is on FSURules....
ChadNole 10/24/07
did you see this "FSU-Mom" that signed up? I wonder if she is a milf. No disrespect if this is one of ur wives! haha
DC Nolesfan 10/24/07
you damn tools.

welcome Irv.....i like this guy's approach.....haha

we need another negative and pessimistic advocate of the devil!
DC Nolesfan 10/24/07
By the way, we are currently ranked #8 in recruiting by Scout.com
ChadNole 10/24/07
We quit playing second halves which is extremely rare for us!! Usually we attack harder in the 2nd!

Well, we are tools Chief!
ChadNole 10/24/07
Hahahaha...I just called us tools. Haha
Chief Osceola 10/24/07
Hahaha...and we don't even work for fsurules! We're the best marketing tools they have.

FSU's O is bad...but not as bad as they've been playing. Get a good quarterback in there and we can complete passes and quit the turnovers. We showed we could rush against Miami. Then beef up the D and we have a team. We aren't as bad as the 2 losses the previous 2 weeks show. We've just quit playing second halves.
Chief Osceola 10/24/07
Damn we are good recruiters...only DC is making us look bad!
ChadNole 10/24/07
I already tagged his **** with the FSURules speech!! :D
ChadNole 10/24/07
Welcome Irv

We are horrible on O. Sometimes nicely consistent...other times...not so much!

ChadRattler has a ring to it!!!!
ChadNole 10/24/07
Welcome Irv! Glad to have more GA Noles on here. If you haven't done so already...sign up @ fsurules.com. It's an AWESOME site with over 1000 FSU fan members featuring exclusive recruiting updates and other stuff.
Chief Osceola 10/24/07
True fans speak the true..it is what it is...we really stink right now...i had to come to the realilty after watching the Miami game...we are not that good on offense...
irvgaboy 10/24/07
ChadRattler! HAHAHAHA
Chief Osceola 10/24/07
I'm not a fan of your jokes DC.

Hahahaha...but really...cut out the Gaytor stuff on this page or I'll call management!
Chief Osceola 10/24/07
I'm jumping on the FAMU bandwagon if we lose to Dook!
ChadNole 10/24/07
how will i pay for restocking my wardrobe with gators apparel if i dont work?

haha BLASPHEMY, but if we lose to Duke i would have no choice!

still kidding
DC Nolesfan 10/24/07
That was supposed to be "being a Seminole is a lifestyle"...

WE NEED AN EDIT BUTTON!!!
Chief Osceola 10/24/07
Exactly! We Nole fans must have priorities in life!

Work smork! A job is just a job...fsurules is a lifestyle!

(I might be on to something with that last line)
Chief Osceola 10/24/07
Work is no excuse!!!
ChadNole 10/24/07
i will, i will

give me a break, work has been nuts!
DC Nolesfan 10/24/07
DC...I'm gonna quit thinking you're a real fan if you don't sign up @ fsurules.com. Ha! Just kidding...or am I? Sign up!
Chief Osceola 10/24/07
Welcome irv!!
ChadNole 10/24/07
Trust me DC, none of us hear that have to listen to your CRAP (j/k) think that you are not a true fan.

Now quit slacking and sign up on rules so you can assess the Dook game in my thread.
ChadNole 10/24/07
oh agree that im probably way too negative! however most of the time i am complaining about legitimate things, and i dont see myself as never having anyting intelligent to say.

i do agree that i go overboard with the negativity, but that doesnt mean i dont support my team on saturdays!
DC Nolesfan 10/24/07
I saw that DC...you know though that you can be brutally honest and some fans just can't handle and don't want to hear the truth. Hell I even think that sometimes you are too negative but hey, we're all entitled to our opinions and all entitled to be dissatisfied with this season.
ChadNole 10/24/07
did anyone notice i have a big time fan out there? or stalker, im not sure

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/25092
DC Nolesfan 10/24/07
4thand1,
I see you made it over to Rules! Help us get the boards active mang!

DC,
I better see yo **** on there this week!
ChadNole 10/23/07
Bowden vs. JoePa TD

http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/69660
ChadNole 10/23/07
Keep bringin em in Jimbo and Ammato, we sure as hell need them
DC Nolesfan 10/23/07
Dude is a playmaker!!
ChadNole 10/23/07
By the way guys....JUCO 5* WR Corey Surrency committed to FSU!!! Another excellent compliment for EJ Manuel.
ChadNole 10/23/07
blah...is it 2008 yet?
ChadNole 10/23/07
yup, missing tackles, running themselves out of plays, or not being aggressive and being eaten up by blocks.

bradham and carr are hopefully the guys we've been missing at fsu for quite sometime.
DC Nolesfan 10/23/07
LOL...DC your killin me. Dude your on your "A" game today. Nigel Bradham and Nigel Carr are the big recruits at Linebacker who have verbally committed to FSU. Seems to me the problem with the Linebackers is the same problem its been all year...they aren't tackling anybody. Quit this hand check stuff and put a hat on somebody !!!
4thand1 10/22/07
lol nice
# 31's name is Verdell and the roster has him listed at 6'2", 222 lbs......Hahahaahaha

I would chop off a finger if he is anything over 205 (and that is stretching it)
DC Nolesfan 10/22/07
reposting this for badger fan....

LOL. On another board, somebody was talking about how FSU has to be able to run the ball.

This guy said, "Well, I also need to mow the yard, shave, balance my checkbook, and not drink so much. However, I know those things don't work for me, so I tend to stay away from them"

hahahaha
DC Nolesfan 10/22/07
I like the idea of playing both qb's. But if you have 2 qb's then you don't have a qb at all. FSU needs to find a run game, and quick it doesn't matter who the qb is if you can't run the ball you've got no chance.
one thing i noticed about Lee is he doesn't look that fast or elusive when running. he looks scared to death!

i wouldnt mind seeing wetherford and lee playing linebacker. definitely need a spark there!
DC Nolesfan 10/22/07
Maybe somehow that also sparks a fire that allows us to establish Antone and the running game. It showed signs of life against Miami. To me that's the biggest key on Offense !!! If we can find a running game it will take some heat off the QB's.
4thand1 10/22/07
You know I see exactly what Bobby and Jimbo are doing and thinking with regards to our QB situation. Using Ponder or Richardson would just make a bigger mess than we already have. Start Weatherford and tell him to use his arm....if that doesn't work....put Lee in and tell him to use his legs. That will make the opposition have to prepare for both QB's and their respective styles and maybe,,,,just maybe that will be enough to throw them off enough for us to get a big play or two and enough Offense to maybe take some heat off the Defense. Maybe even rotate the two QB's each series of downs. I know that's streaching it...but hell what we are doing now isn't working so who knows maybe this will !!! Maybe this will spark one of the two to show us why they were recruited to FSU !!! At this point I don't think that is such a bad idea. (Man I hate desperation !!!).
4thand1 10/22/07
Ya that's funny what Bobby said...I'll save it for when I move, so it won't cost me so much money.
4thand1 10/22/07
Yeah...and Bobby said he'd save it for when HE was ready to sell his house. Ha!

Get 'em Bobby!
Chief Osceola 10/22/07
somebody put a for sale sign in bobby's yard!

that is over the top guys
DC Nolesfan 10/22/07
http://www.fannation.com/articles/show/1275434

Yeah...Weatherford isn't our answer...and apparently Lee isn't either. We're broke and in need of repair. QUICKLY!
Chief Osceola 10/22/07
i didn't see that. i think this is a terrible decision, but whatever. we need to go with ponder or richardson if anybody, but weatherford has had his shot
DC Nolesfan 10/22/07
Guess you've seen where we're starting Weatherford again Saturday...with intentions of going to Lee later.

Bobby thinks Lee does good for a little while then falls apart...with WF & Miami being testimonies to that.
Chief Osceola 10/22/07
PSU isn't very good this year, but i see what you are saying. I think Joe-Pa may be a little more sane at this point. I know the reason they are both still going is for the record and that is a shame
DC Nolesfan 10/22/07
So what's the difference at Penn State ??? When they joined the Big 10, they were one of College Foortball's elite....then suddenly, for a few years...they really sucked bad (See Syracuse now !!!). Now they maybe aren't back to the same level yet, but they are very competitive in the Big 10...so what caused the change there and can we implement or learn from that model to solve our own dilema ???
4thand1 10/22/07
As long as Bobby isn't coaching DC...what's the problem with him hanging around. I think it's a given right now that if he left Jimbo would take over the head coaching job...so the coaching staff wouldn't change since Jimbo would still be calling the plays.

Besides...Bobby can't leave until Joe Paterno calls it quits and has a few less wins than Bobby.
Chief Osceola 10/22/07
Hey this is a little off topic....but remember the game against Georgia....I think it was a Bowl game wasn't it. We tied 10-10, but on the last play of the game Georgia kicker Kevin Butler tries a like 70 yarder or something close to it....remember that ??? He missed it wide left !!! One of the best kicks I've ever seen, and one of the best College kickers I have ever seen !!! However that's all I'll say about kickers because my good God we all know how sensative an issue that is....lol.
4thand1 10/22/07
You got it. Immediately after Richt's and Ammato's departure, we started to slide. It's like when you start fishing with a hook that has no bait on it.
DC Nolesfan 10/22/07
I guess we'll agree to disagree on Bobby Bowden. I agree DC...its been years since he's done any real coaching and I think that's part of the problem !!! I remember the day Richt left for Georgia...I made a mental note to myself that he was going to be tough to replace !!!
4thand1 10/22/07
LOL. On another board, somebody was talking about how FSU has to be able to run the ball.

This guy said, "Well, I also need to mow the yard, shave, balance my checkbook, and not drink so much. However, I know those things don't work for me, so I tend to stay away from them"

hahahaha
DC Nolesfan 10/22/07
Ohhhhh....that's the definition of Insanity ??? Oh man then I'm headed to the nut house for sure !!!
4thand1 10/22/07
Agree without Bobby we wouldn't have this program. That is why I love him and respect him. However, when you see the same thing for 7 YEARS, it is time to step aside.

Do you know what the definition of insanity is? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
DC Nolesfan 10/22/07
Bowden states in his book that the reason he used to call so many trick plays is because the competition was better than FSU back in the days. If you notice, once they got good in the 90's he didnt call them anymore. Well, why in the hell havent we ran trick plays for the past 7 years with how bad we've been?

Bobby has done the right thing in allowing Fisher to call all of the plays. This is no first however, I'm telling you, the man hasn't coached much in 10 years or so.
DC Nolesfan 10/22/07
No one is implying that Bobby should be "shipped out". He needs to make the decision on his own and get out while he can still salvage some pride. Like I said I love Bobby to death, but he is senile and hasn't coached a lick in many years. So I'm not sure why you think Bobby being more involved is the answer. That is a pretty wishful thinking statement. He needs to have no involvement at all. The man doesn't even know what quarter it is or who has the ball half the time. Keep dreaming if you want, but Bobby hasn't called a play in years for a reason.

I must correct you on what happened with our recruiting. Steele left last season. The recruiting crumbled after Mark Richt and Chuck Ammato left 7 years ago. In fact, thats when the entire program started to crumble. They did all the recruiting and brought Bobby in to seal the deal at the end. After they departed, was Jeff Bowden supposed to recruit? Now we have some excellent recruiting coaches in Fisher and Ammato, and next year's class already shows that.

Be in denial all you want, but it is time for Bobby to step down. You are absolutey right in saying he can stay as long as he wants, but he should salvage his pride and step aside and enjoy life for a little bit.
DC Nolesfan 10/22/07
Im with you 4th in that Bobby should be able to stay as long as HE wants to stay. We are FSU because of Bobby and I'll be damned if I'm gonna jump on the band wagon to ship him out. He's not on the phones much anymore because he wanst Jimbo to have the freedom to call the plays, but I'm with you...I miss the old days where Bobby would go for the big play without thinking twice. Sure he had the talent...but he also had the surprise factor...and we don't do anything to surprise the other team anymore. We're cookie cutter...and a dull cookie cutter at that.
Chief Osceola 10/22/07
As for Bobby heading out to pasture...I'm sticking to my guns...Bobby can stay as long as he likes !!! We would be nothing without him. Without Bobby Bowden...we wouldn't even be having this conversation about how low we have gone in the past couple of years....because we'd already be at the bottom...and there would be no National Championship Crystal in the Trophy Case. Maybe Bobby needs to go back to the old days when he was always on the headphones....changing plays and giving his input. Obviously I don'y get to any games, but you guys do...how often does he have the phones on now...a couple times a game ??? Maybe he needs to be more involved. Also spend the money and get a recruiting specialist who cand SELL, SELL, SELL !!! Who cares if he knows anything about Football, as long as he installs some passion in the recruits and gets them to come to FSU !!! To me....this is what we need on a long term basis !!! Your thoughts ???
4thand1 10/22/07
I completely agree DC...this is plain and simply a lack of talent. Everyone and their dog come to Florida recruiting now....would you like to spend 3 years on the bench in Tallahassee, or Miami...or would you like to get playing time in your Freshmen year ??? Plus lets face it...The SEC is king right now...your best recruits look at SEC schools first before they look at ACC schools. In my mind this all started to fall apart when what's his name (Sorry I can't remember his name...I think it was Kevin Steele...maybe...he was the Linebackers coach and also in charge of recruiting....damm I can't remember his name, but I'm sure you know who I mean)...anyway he left for greener pastures and our recruiting classes went with him. From what I hear about this years commits...we have a couple of Blue Chippers, especially EJ Manuel at QB...but how long till they can actually contribute ???
4thand1 10/22/07
I know he made a couple great plays, but did anyone notice how small the number 31 is for an LB????? He must weigh about 160 lbs. That is what I'm talking about. We have cornerbacks playing linebacker.
DC Nolesfan 10/22/07
All I can say is ouch. I was there and it certainly can't be blamed on the fans lack of noise. Doak was ROCKIN Saturday night. Just poor play. The good news was that the tailgating was great...and most Miami fans I saw were freezing their butts off after the game. HAhaha!
Chief Osceola 10/22/07
Let me add that is time for Bowden to go, Mickey Andrews needs to go as well. They have had their time and contributed to destroying this program long enough.

Bowden giveth, Bowden taketh away. Hahaha, I love him to death, but it's time for some new coaches.
DC Nolesfan 10/22/07
I agree 4th and 1, we will be lucky to go 5-7.

You can blame the turnovers, you can blame penalties, you can blame the lack of a run game, you can blame the linebackers, but there is one common thing we have seen for 7 years now. When the game is on the line and it's time for somebody to make a play, it NEVER happens. The D played pretty good all game, but when it was time to stop Miami, they go right down the field and score in 90 seconds! Unnacceptable! Anyone want to agree with me now that we have a serious lack of talent? Weatherford is not the answer......Lee isnt either. We've never had a set of linebackers this bad. The secondary isn't very good (except for Patrick Robinson). This is simply a bad team. I wanna get on the coaches, but they are new, they have to have time to gut the program and start from scratch
DC Nolesfan 10/22/07
is it wrong to already be looking forward to basketball season? FSU's football games are getting more and more difficult to watch.
ATLfan7 10/22/07
oh god nooooo!! not another QB change; someone help the Noles....PLEEEZZZZZ!
ATLfan7 10/22/07
what a terrible game! we don't deserve to win when we play like that....TOO MANY G.O.D.D.A.M PENALTIES! after that performance, i'm just hoping that Va Tech and BC don't pulverize the Noles.
ATLfan7 10/21/07
Wow. The Seminoles really blew this one. You can't blow a game like this, you just can't. Someone give me a reason to remain positive
You know....I'm trying to remain positive...but that was one of the worst losses to Miami ever....The Canes didn't beat us...we beat ourselves....gentlemen that was brutal...period. That just made their whole year. We DO NOT derserve to go Bowling this year...No way...unless its against Notre Dame. I thought last year was rock bottom...but I guess not. Hopefully this year is. Hey Chief here's my early week 9 prediction...Duke by three. Wow...I hate being this negative !!! GO NOLES !!!
4thand1 10/20/07
How many goddamm chances are we going to give these guys to upset us....my good God this should be over !!! We are the better team by far...any Offense whatsoever this one would be history !!!
4thand1 10/20/07
is anybody out there ???
4thand1 10/20/07
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/story/276909.html

here we go with this Lee/Weatherford talk. at least Lee gives us a chance to win games. I dont care if he is inconsistent sometimes. if weatherford played the whole WF game, we would have lost 24-0
DC Nolesfan 10/19/07
And I know this one has nothing to do with Miami...but it's a classic nonetheless...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wbO3ZOQMbQ
Chief Osceola 10/18/07
Hell yeah! That hit by Samuels was badass!

One more for your enjoyment...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9Xez9Y_cDw
Chief Osceola 10/18/07
"How many heart attacks does that make for you?"

"That makes a bakers dozen for me!"

surely you know that skit.......but i had a pastrami and salami sandwich with salt & vinegar chips. swiss cheese and spicy mustard on the sandwich if u really must know!
DC Nolesfan 10/18/07
What did you eat for lunch DC?
ChadNole 10/18/07
"Bowden vs a hurricane"

"THATS A NO BRAINER!......"

"Wait, wait, there is a catch.......

The name a da hurricane is Hurricane Bowden"
DC Nolesfan 10/18/07
I thought about putting that one up too!!

Now tell me this one doesn't get you pumped and give you goose bumps!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIZs0kn9vco
ChadNole 10/18/07
hell yeah chad! i was at that miserable, rainy game and you have brought back bad memories. i drove down from TN (9 hour drive) on friday, woke up, went to the game at noon, sat in the rain to watch us lose, changed clothes in the car and drove back! bad choice, haha

check this one out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NiwGp1TM5k&NR=1
DC Nolesfan 10/18/07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4bL4ayON-A
ChadNole 10/18/07
ABC at 3:30pm Eastern. GO NOLES !!!
4thand1 10/17/07
did the FSU-Miami game get picked up by a network? can't seem to find any info on it....i know they are both unranked, but that's still gonna be a good game.
ATLfan7 10/17/07
no i wasnt kidding! i want them to go 0-16 so even if someone ends up going perfect we will always be the only franchise to have a perfect and winless season! WE'RE ON A ROLL!

#1 pick in the draft is nice, but when you need 19 out of 22 players, it's tough to rebuild. we are in deep trouble. they are talking about getting glen dorsey to fill our void at interior lineman. they could have already done that this year by drafting amobi okoye, who at 19, would have 4 years experience once he reached the normal age of coming into the league.

but instead, we got the dreaded ted ginn jr!!!!!

the entire organization is a joke right now! but hey, we are only 5 OL, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 QB, 3 DL, 2 LB, and 4 DB's away from being legit!
DC Nolesfan 10/16/07
Don't be so hard on them DC. You are staring down the barrel of the first pick in the draft!!
ChadNole 10/16/07
haha nice rant dawg!

the super bowl is garbage enough as it is these days. it's a corporate event that the average fan has no shot at seeing (unless they are a filthy rich average fan). i cringe at the thought of the fins going to the bowl cuz i wouldnt be able to go.

wait, i don't have to worry about that for the next 10 years :)
DC Nolesfan 10/16/07
LOL!!! Loved the tirade 4thand1!
ChadNole 10/16/07
OMG somebody get Roger out of the Desert....I think the heat has gone to his brain !!! Didn't NFL Europa die ??? You want to play some regualr season games in Mexico City, Toronto, or London...that's fine...but the Super Bowl is an AMERICAN ICON not to be messed with by moving it out of the country. That's the stupidest thing I've heard all week !!! Oh and on the NFL putting an expansion team in Toronto...never going to happen !!! Who would go to Bills games then (40% of Bills Season Ticket Holders are from Ontario and cross the border feverishly for each home game at Ralph Wilson Stadium). It would also be the end of the CFL, the only Professional feeder to the NFL (See Doug Flutie, Jeff Garcia, Joe Thiesmann, Warren Moon, Bud Grant, Kenton Keith....you know the backup RB for the Colts who put up a buck in their last win, because Joe was injured...and countless others). I'm sick of all this expand the game around the World crap...dammit they have soccer...Football is OURS.......I have a headache, I think I need to laydown....
4thand1 10/16/07
i still like the nfl. huge fantasy football player and huge dolphins fan! the chance of going 0-16 really gives me something to look forward to the weekends for! keep on rolling miami!
DC Nolesfan 10/16/07
I've been done with the NFL for years. So Chuck Norris joined this fight? Damn. It's not looking good.
Chief Osceola 10/16/07
If the Super Bowl goes to London (or any other country for that matter), I am done with the NFL
ChadNole 10/16/07
If X isn't the starting QB im taking all my fsu apparell to goodwill
DC Nolesfan 10/16/07
X is starting unless he under performs in practice
ChadNole 10/16/07
Chuck Norris and Randy Shannon vs. Macgyver and Bobby Bowden?

If Macgyver can get his hands on 3 random items it's over!

Does anybody see the headline to the right that says, "super bowl in london a possiblity?"

that seems like a bad idea, for an event that is already quite unattainable for the average fan. anyways
DC Nolesfan 10/16/07
Xavier is starting at QB right ??? Please tell me Xavier is starting at QB...its too many sleeps until Saturday...I'm going to need some sleep !!!
4thand1 10/16/07
I feel you 4thand1!!

Chief, don't give the toothbrush to the U, you know what they can make with those....
ChadNole 10/16/07
I found a spare toothbrush on the ground. I'm sure y'all can put it to use too.
Chief Osceola 10/16/07
LOL...and dental floss...that's too funny...lol....hmmm that might work though.
4thand1 10/16/07
How topsy turrvy has this season become !!! Ohio State, BC and yes the Bulls of South Florida not only the top three in the BCS...but in control of their own destiny's !!! Win out and they have not just tickets and hotel rooms in the "Big Easy"...but sideline passes as well. You know that actually pisses me off...if we had even half an Offense....that could be us as well !!! GO NOLES...BEAT THE U !!!
4thand1 10/16/07
And some dental floss. MacGyver would be proud!
ChadNole 10/16/07
Golf club and knife eh? You've really thought this through! Ha!
Chief Osceola 10/16/07
Haha! I think it would be ok if you check it in rather than carry it on!

If not we can make you 1 out of a golf club and knives!
DC Nolesfan 10/16/07
DC I am so totally on the next plane for DC to get me some spearing in as well....hmmm wait a minute do you think they'll let my spear through Customs ???
4thand1 10/16/07
totally agree chief......good thing we dont play app state this year! haha

Eff an Ibis! The canes are going down folks! Wish we were watching the game with that group!
DC Nolesfan 10/16/07
Supposed to be "an"...not "and"
Chief Osceola 10/16/07
No team is a locked up win for us anymore. I'm really interested to see what BC does with their next 5 games, since they'll actually have some competition. VT, FSU, Miami. Though the final 2 aren't juggernauts...they should make for interesting games.

Spear and ibis for me DC. The trash of south FL. :D
Chief Osceola 10/16/07
Plenty of Ibis' around to spear around here, but I'm with you DC!
ChadNole 10/16/07
As far as the Miami and FSU fans partying together, there is a joint happy hour with the DC Noles and DC Canes Fan clubs this wednesday! I'm gonna go with an indian headress on and spear some folks! Anybody wanna join?
DC Nolesfan 10/16/07
Chief,

I don't get involved in all that this team beat this team and they beat this team crap. I was just saying Duke seems to be much improved, so don't be surprised if we struggle early.

I'm gonna start the prediction thread for Miami.
DC Nolesfan 10/16/07
Made too many trips to Tallahassee and Miami only to see us lose. After 2003, I said I was done coming down for Miami games, but I figured I didn't wanna miss it when we finally won! So I came down in 2005 and saw that madness! Canes getting jumped by 4 and 5 Nole fans. I was lovin it cuz Miami fans are sooooo damn cocky.

Miami isn't very good, I like the Noles in this game. 10-7 in 05, 13-10 in 06........16-13 in 07? Haha, probably so
DC Nolesfan 10/16/07
Can't blame them, I wouldn't make that long as trip either...if I was Cane! [shades] But I'd make the trip to Miami cause I AM A NOLE!!!
ChadNole 10/16/07
F the game. Nah...win or lose I'll be there. Apparently Miami fans did say screw it though...there were lots of extra seats available in what was to be sold by Miami.
Chief Osceola 10/16/07
I think all the Miami and FSU fans should just say F the game, get together to party and make fun of the Gates.
ChadNole 10/16/07
I don't think you can compare the fact that Duke put up so many points on Wake with what we put up on Wake. We beat Colorado, but I don't think we're better than Oklahoma. Stanford beat USC but I don't think Stanford is better than Nebraska.
Chief Osceola 10/16/07
yeah no kidding chad. duke put up something like 36 points on wake!
DC Nolesfan 10/16/07
I don't have anything to say.

Just that...no game left on the schedule is a lock!
ChadNole 10/15/07
Holy USF! haha, if they run the table it's looking mighty good for them
DC Nolesfan 10/15/07
nothing worse than FSU PMS! however it is treatable. beer and watching other teams on saturday!
DC Nolesfan 10/12/07
I think I've witnessed you cover the whole spectrum of emotion on here today. If you were a woman I'd say see your doctor. Ha!

See y'all Monday.
Chief Osceola 10/12/07
well u greatly improved my mood with the acc championship joke! you should be on saturday night live.

im kidding man. you actually made me want to cry!
DC Nolesfan 10/12/07
Believe me dude...I'm pissed too. I just sat there and stared at the tv after the game ended. I really thought that after the past couple of games, we were building up some rhythm. I was wrong.

We're definitely down...but I don't wanna say we're out yet. If VT beats BC...and then we beat BC (not to mention that we have to beat VT and Maryland too)...we could still make the ACC Championship. Sometimes I'm overly optimistic. It's the only thing that helps on days like these. :(
Chief Osceola 10/12/07
we havent covered a tight end ever, so thats a given
DC Nolesfan 10/12/07
i know im sorry chief. i will take my pessimistic a.s.s. somewhere else! haha im just super pissed. penalties kill us everytime on offense, but ive never seen so many 3rd down penalties on D! its funny on offense, whenever we have a run over 5 yards, you know there was a hold to spring it. haha

anyways, sorry to be such a downer, im just mad and blaming everyone involved. truthfully the D did play well enough to win. it was the playcalling that killed us, along with not being able to run the ball
DC Nolesfan 10/12/07
I don't remember screaming 10 & 2. I was 9 & 3 happy at the beginning, and I'm still optimistic.
Chief Osceola 10/12/07
I have doubted you before, and though I was burned on that, I just don't see our guys as as bad as you do. I've never said they were great, but our defense was holding these guys until they were basically the only part of our team on the field. They got tired and Wake busted loose with the misdirections. Our biggest flaw in defense was the penalties. We gave them first down after first down on stupid penalties. With the exception of Tereshinki ALWAYS being open (which was linebackers...I'll give you that)...the defense did the job.
Chief Osceola 10/12/07
and we just lost to WF who Duke put 36 up against!

hopefully we can beat duke, ****
DC Nolesfan 10/12/07
come on war chief. at the beginning of the year you were screaming 10-2. now, we are 4-2 with 5 real tough games left
DC Nolesfan 10/12/07
there is a reason we "outplayed" ourselves..........we are not very good. the defense played "good enough to win", they didnt play "great". the linebackers are the worst group we have had in 20 years folks. the defensive line is VERY good, but the back 7 is horrid at this point. how can u deny how terrible the linebackers played ALL game? watch some highlights and look at how many times safeties have to come up and make tackles in our base 4-3. the linebackers do 1 of 2 things almost every play. sit, sit, sit until they are blocked or the runner is past them, or they bite on misdirections/fakes and run themselves right out of the play. like i said, they are athletic (although they are all tiny for LBs) but they are not coached very well. why cant 1 of them read plays? come on ammato i know your better than that

u have doubted me before havent u? haha, im sooooo pissed about last night.
DC Nolesfan 10/12/07
And no...I wasn't kidding about 9 & 3, though I think 8 & 4 is more realistic.

Potentially we can beat every team on our schedule except for Florida. BC may be our toughest opponent, but I still say they haven't played anyone other than Wake...and we weren't out-played by Wake...we just outplayed ourselves.
Chief Osceola 10/12/07
I saw it differently. Besides penalties, our defense played a great game until the last quarter. We had injuries...and our guys were on the field for 11 minutes in the 3rd quarter. Our offense couldn't do anything other than a 3rd and out after half and our defense just got worn out.
Chief Osceola 10/12/07
the O-line sucking is a given. the secondary is not very good either. rolle is severly overated, carter isnt any good, jr bryant wouldnt start for duke, roger williams is a d-3 safety. garvin is tough, but undersized. patrick robinson is gonna be a STUD, i will say that. but the other robinson is garbage (jamie).

ok im done haha. parker is going to be so damn good! he catches every single ball and has big play ability. carr is good for nothing but goin down the field. he looks like a child on anything else
DC Nolesfan 10/12/07
9-3? Your kidding right?

8-4 would be just short of a miracle, 7-5 would be great, 6-6 would be an accomplishment.

we will beat Duke obviously, but it wouldn't surprise me if we lost every other game. I don't think we will. We should be able to beat Miami, and hopefully Maryland (although they have beaten us 2 years in a row). VT, BC, and UF all for sure losses if we don't get our **** together.

I tried to tell you guys our defense is simply not that good. They are athletic and talented, but it seems like they are coached to run around with no direction or reads.......anyone want to agree that our linebackers are awful now? geno made that one nice play, but other than that, they all sucked. granted, we did play good enough to win on defense for 3 quarters and then they got tired, but look how wake's linebackers played and tell me they arent better in that respect. cant wait till we get some legit backers next year. guys who are more than 210 pounds for god's sake!
DC Nolesfan 10/12/07
if the Noles don't play better than that, they are gonna have a hard time with BC, Va Tech and the Gators......god help us if we lose to Maryland. LOL
ATLfan7 10/12/07
ATLfan 7 said:
"WHAT is up with our running game?"

Well...it's definitely not the yards. 1 yards here, 2 yards there. Wow. Penalties killed us though. WE lost that game. WF didn't beat us...WE beat ourselves.

I still don't see us having as bad as a 6 & 6 season. 8 & 4 or 9 & 3.
Chief Osceola 10/12/07
what an awful game last night.....just AWFUL. WHAT is up with our running game? and what was with all those penalties?! gotta hand it to Wake, their offense woke up and ours didn't......yeah, 6-6 sounds about right.
ATLfan7 10/12/07
Damn. Just damn.

PENALTIES!!! That face mask on 3rd and long lost it for us. Way to go Boston. !!!!!

It's a sad day boys. A sad day dadgummit.
Chief Osceola 10/12/07
yeah lee didnt take off and run all **** night. they are horrible
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
where was that when we NEEDED it !!! Oh well Cya later.
4thand1 10/11/07
Well I'm out DC, Have a good one !!! GO NOLES !!!
4thand1 10/11/07
if we are lucky.....we might only beat duke and that's it
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
our linebackers are horrible, make no mistake about it. wake's linebacker's are far better than ours

6-6, get ready
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
I always thought we were a 6 win team this year, but then that bama game gave me some hope that things were goin to be better...no that's gone...as is the ACC title and any hope of being ranked for the rest of the year.
4thand1 10/11/07
That's called desperation...no fault on the Defense. They spent over half the game on the field...this is all Offense. Back to the drawing board Jimbo...you suck. (Sorry I'm getting hammered...lol)
4thand1 10/11/07
are we still a 2nd half team? we will be lucky to win 6 games this year
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
our defense played well for 3 quarters but when u go 3 and out 10 possesions in a row they are gonna get tired. pair that with the linebackers being HORRIBLE and we are in trouble.

WHY DID THEY PULL LEE? THAT WAS A BONEHEAD PLAY
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
did u see the linebackers covering each other on the sideline? they are terrible
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
guess that's a no
4thand1 10/11/07
game over
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
Do we have any miracles left in the cupboard ???
4thand1 10/11/07
****
4thand1 10/11/07
that tight end would have 300 yards if they threw to him everytime. we couldnt cover him in any situation
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
c'mon D we need a ******* turnover !!!
4thand1 10/11/07
stick with lee....or put richardson in... drew sucks
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
Ya I should just ****...wow that was so much better !!! Who's the third stringer...put him in !!!
4thand1 10/11/07
why would they pull xaiver? dear god, now they are rollin drew out like they should have done with lee all game. jimbo fisher is terrible
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
****
4thand1 10/11/07
****
4thand1 10/11/07
yeah right! u really hexed us here. drew is back in! we are done for sure now
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
Thank God for the Defense
4thand1 10/11/07
My God this is painful !!! Putt Drew back in.
4thand1 10/11/07
Lee is throwing all over the **** place! what the ****? thats coaching man
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
we mite be done bro
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
CRAP !!! Alright Xavier....show us what you got...we need you baby !!!
4thand1 10/11/07
lol
4thand1 10/11/07
hate to see anybody get hurt, but whatever it takes to get roger williams off the field. my 12 year old nephew is better than him!
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
oh, oh (Freaking out again)
4thand1 10/11/07
Sunshine Coast...Gulfport.
4thand1 10/11/07
alfonso smith is a stud......we dont have a guy that is half as good as him in the secondary
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
here we go...6 points I can feel it !!!
4thand1 10/11/07
what part of fla are u from?
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
Moved up here for work a long time ago...both my Brother and Sister did too...lol. I'll always be a NOLE though....FOREVER !!!
4thand1 10/11/07
patrick robinson is gonna be a STUD!
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
oh ok so u are from fla
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
lmao about lou holtz! wait, uve lived in canada your whole life???

thats awesome that u are an fsu fan! i went to tennessee but couldnt convert! i grew up a nole
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
Calgary is a great City, people here are nice, Rocky Mountains and the skiing Rock, but I sure miss Florida...especially in January...lol
4thand1 10/11/07
No I should have but I didn't go...been a fan since I was a kid. Tough to get news up here, tougher to see the games, but thanks to the Internet that has all changed. Lou Holtz is god...lol. If he can't motivate you...check your pulse...lol.
4thand1 10/11/07
damn canada? thats raw that you are an fsu fan! did u go to fsu?
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
im tired of people critcicising antone smith! of course he's gonna dance in the backfield when he's met by a defender 3 yards deep everytime! there is nothing wrong with him its the line
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
I'm North of the border in Calgary...I know, I know, I should have went to the Colorado game. 12 hour drive to Denver...I almost went but I couldn't get time off work to go..oh well.
4thand1 10/11/07
did you see lou holtz pep talk? he's got me hyped up!
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
haha, im a receiver. let's try out for arena league! where u live man?
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
Its all politics man...you want a laugh check out the ESPN Allstate Fan poll....now that's funny.
4thand1 10/11/07
If you think that 6'1" 230 works then why not....can't be any worse. I prefer hitting people...blocking sucks...lol.
4thand1 10/11/07
they gave the play of the week to stanford! that was garbage....just bad defense....it was carr's catch by god!
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
No worries....got a good supply here...lol
4thand1 10/11/07
well ive got 4 years left! haha. let's try out for o-line next week! im 6'2", 200.....think thats enough?
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
LOL...you know I still have 2 years of eligability left....lol....maybe not...lol. Lets see who steps it up in the 3rd quarter....next score is huge !!!
4thand1 10/11/07
i think this is the part where my drunk **** hugs you and says, "i love u man, but ur still not gettin my bud light!"
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
4and1 u know your **** homie!
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
im **** pumped baby! our defense has been fine, with the exception of the linebackers.....they are terrible. they couldnt read a play if it was written in a children's book

our O-line should have their scholarships cut and we can pick up a squad off the intramural squad! me and u could block better!
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
I couldn't agree more...his routes suck. If he has any plans for the next level...he might want to learn how to run a route...like Parker !!! GO NOLES !!!
4thand1 10/11/07
Outside of one play....good job by the Defense...however 14 yards of rushing ain't goin to get it done is it ??? Somebody figure out how we can move the ball on the ground...please...lol. Its OK DC...I'm freakin out too...lol.
4thand1 10/11/07
Carr is good for one thing, goin down the field.....jump ball. he looks like an uncoordinated retard on any route besides a fade!

GOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOLES!
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
hmmm kinds set my self up on that comment didn't I...lol. Great Job Capitalizing on the turnover !!! I hope we carry this momentum into the 2nd half !!!
4thand1 10/11/07
What has happened to Carr ??? He's no longer a threat is he. Our blocking sucks...lol.
4thand1 10/11/07
Huge play by Moffet...my god we needed that. Way to go DEFENSE !!!
4thand1 10/11/07
yes 4thand1!! somebody to talk **** with! parker is a man out there! he catches EVERYTHING! and Carr cant do anything except go down the field
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
the refs finally gave us a call on the fumble recovery!

we have to get out of the shotgun! did u see Lee get away from the rush and throw the ball 60 yards downfield to parker? GET OUT OF THE SHOTGUN AND MOVE HIM AROUND!

sorry boys im goin nuts here!!!!!
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
Preston Parker for President !!!....lol
4thand1 10/11/07
Finally....look some offense. Parker is a stud !!!
4thand1 10/11/07
Still think our linebackers are tough after that 70 yard run?
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
maybe it hit us first but was that not the biggest debacle uve ever seen with the refs? they got the call wrong like 5 times in a row. how does a block in the back give us a first down back where we had possesion? we'll take it but holy ****!
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
THEY HAVE TO REVIEW THAT ****!

WE RECOVERED!
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
ok why is that safety #46 a captain? he's TERRIBLE!
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
haha! I already have my oldest saying ew Gators and Go Seminoles!!!! And she's only 4!
ChadNole 10/11/07
I'm out til tomorrow when Bobby and crew will be 5 & 1
Chief Osceola 10/11/07
Heck...bring the girls. They need to be indoctrinated too! Ha!
Chief Osceola 10/11/07
Well hopefully one of the good ones fall on a weekend I don't have the girls.
ChadNole 10/11/07
For sure...DC you have to come to Tally next year.

Next year's schedule is awesome. Home games include Colorado, VT, UF, Clemson, BC & Wake. Glad to have the tougher teams at home next year.
Chief Osceola 10/11/07
Let's go to VT @ home next year! That or UF. I'll be there for one of the games by God!
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
DC you def have to make it down next year. When the sched comes out we all need to get together and figure out which game.

Chief, I haven't met Mark yet but have talked to him quite a bit on there. He def seems like a cool guy.
ChadNole 10/11/07
I don't know if you know Mark already or not...but what a cool guy.
Chief Osceola 10/11/07
fsurules.com

It's looking like I won't be making the VT trip. Too much going on in November.

See you @ Duke
Chief Osceola 10/11/07
what is this rules business? I'm more than likely not gonna be down for a game this year, but definitely wanna hook up with yall next season. Unless you make it up to VT Chief! I don't think I can find anybody to join me with the ticket situation being a mess, but I'm gonna try my damndest.

Go Noles!
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
I got two tickets lined up from Mark on Rules. Mrs. Perfect and I are coming up early to tailgate with Rules!! We'll see you there fo sho!
ChadNole 10/11/07
For sure. If they have it again, you need to hang out @ the Rules tailgate. I tailgated with them @ NC State. Cool guys.
Chief Osceola 10/11/07
Chief, you going to be there for Duke?
ChadNole 10/11/07
It's on tonight boys!!

Enjoy the game and our revenge! I'll catch back up with you Monday!
ChadNole 10/11/07
Haha...go back to sleep.
Chief Osceola 10/11/07
I'm dissapointed that Peter Warrick is out for this game. Oh well we should be ok without him. (fell asleep and woke up in 99)
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
**** Whippin day boys!!!!

cant effin wait!
DC Nolesfan 10/11/07
Game day boys!

GO NOLES!!!
Chief Osceola 10/11/07
Whaaaa???

Around here it's almost a sludge. So much sugar you have to suck on a salt packet while drinking it to counter balance.
Chief Osceola 10/10/07
The McDonalds here has good sweet tea!
ChadNole 10/10/07
Yep...when you hear people say they don't like tea...it's because they've never had sweet tea...and I don't mean the McDonald's-make-you-wanna-gag sweet tea...I mean REAL sweet tea. :)

I'm always up for a good BBQ joint...though I don't see me being in Knoxville anytime soon. Then again...I have a buddy who's a die hard VOL fan...so who knows.
Chief Osceola 10/10/07
i mean how do people even drink "iced" tea that is unsweet? that is beyond me
DC Nolesfan 10/10/07
you had to remind me of sweet tea and publix! grrrrrrrrrrrr

publix subs are off the chain! there is a store up here called wegmans that has some that are good too, but the closest one is like 45 minutes away.

man, i miss the south for sure. i wouldnt call central florida the south, but it does have publix!!! buddy's bbq is the best. if u ever go to knoxville, try it
DC Nolesfan 10/10/07
I hear ya Chief!
ChadNole 10/10/07
I could handle not having Publix and Sonny's...but I couldn't do without my sweet tea. I'm a junkie. That's one part of Georgia that'll be with me til I die. :D
Chief Osceola 10/10/07
No way I could live up North without Sonny's and Publix.
ChadNole 10/10/07
We have a Sonnys right down from where I work but I haven't eaten there in about a year. Used to love their all you can eat ribs.
Chief Osceola 10/10/07
wow, turtle soup while praying to the blue devil.

clever!

sonny's bbq? we dont have that up here. wish we did
DC Nolesfan 10/10/07
Sonny's gave me a horrible batch of fried okra today. How disappointing!
ChadNole 10/10/07
Whatever you do...don't eat turtle soup while praying to the Blue Devil.
Chief Osceola 10/10/07
Deacon as in WF?
ChadNole 10/10/07
lunch time boys! im having gator tail with a side of hoakie, prepared by a "deacon" at Boston College.

yes im that bored
DC Nolesfan 10/10/07
Hahaha. Yep...no similarities...but who cares.

That reminds me of the joke about the blind guy and the cheerleader. Oh wait...no it doesn't.
Chief Osceola 10/10/07
I'm not getting in to one of those damn things, but more power to you!

reminds me of a joke (dont know why).

there was an american and pollock sentenced to death by electric chair quite a few years back. the american guy sits in it, the guard flips the switch, but nothing happens. being a religious affiliated prison, they proclaim that this is a sign from god that he is supposed to live and they let him go.

it is now the pollock's turn and he says, "im not gettin in that damn thing till u fix it!"

im a pollock so no harm intended. i dont see the correlation with hot air balloons, but nonetheless!
DC Nolesfan 10/10/07
It's going to be a good week boys...pay WF back tomorrow night...go to bed...wake up and catch the flight to Albuquerque to attend the hot air balloon festival and ride in one of them dam things!! Good week indeed!!
ChadNole 10/10/07
i tried to sleep until thursday night, but here i am at work again.

ughhhh. only couple days to go!
DC Nolesfan 10/10/07
I think I read out Thursday night record is 5 & 3
Chief Osceola 10/10/07
I see Overmayer is out for the Wake game...like we can afford to lose an O-Lineman...jeez. We need to get some rythem on O early...X needs to continue to mature and make the right decisions. I agree with DC...Antone needs to have a big game. Anyone know what our record is on Thursday nights ???
4thand1 10/09/07
You know DC...I saw some highlights from the NCSU game and I saw at least one really good hit from MR. I was thinking the same thing when I saw that. He has had a few PBU's I believe but he seems to be more of a run stuffer than a coverage guy.
ChadNole 10/09/07
i have a question for you fellas....

as good as myron rolle is supposed to be has anyone ever seen him make 1 play in the passing game? he makes nice plays on the run, but i dont think ive ever seen him cover good. i know he is a SS, but he is supposed to be the real deal all around.

please speculate
DC Nolesfan 10/09/07
haha, you sound just like him. evidentally they found several ways to beat us (30-0).

i semi agree with you chad, but it depends on what "our game" is on defense. our back 7 has to get better in a hurry! im tired of seeing the linebackers run around with no direction. i think we shall be fine against wake. its miami, bc, florida, and vt who scare me
DC Nolesfan 10/09/07
We just gotta whip those boys. Last year they found a way to win...they found a way to win dadgummit. We can't go out there and beat ourselves you know. Cause last year they found a way to win. Those boys are physical you know. They hit hard. Dadgummit. They found a way to win last year. Boy that was somethin wasn't it. Golly I hated to see that. They found a way to beat us.

Dadgummit.
Chief Osceola 10/09/07
This one is pretty simple boys. We play our game on O and on D. As long as we play consistent and execute like we have the last few games, WF does not stand a chance.
ChadNole 10/09/07
We are gonna hit em where it hurts. Antone Smith right, Antone Smith left, Antone Smith up the gut. Wait, we don't have an offensive line? Well I guess we'd better rethink that daggumit!
DC Nolesfan 10/09/07
So we're focusing on Wake for now. What's your strategy Coach?
Chief Osceola 10/09/07
I just think this talk is premature. A lot of football left to be played. Let's worry about Wake for now (haha im talking like we are coaches)
DC Nolesfan 10/09/07
If we don't beat BC then we are out of the ACCCG! We need to beat BC and if we lose another conference game then we need to pray BC does too. If we go the ACCCG, we should win it. The Coastal isn't looking so hot!
ChadNole 10/09/07
Check out my blog above titled "Vote for FSU!!!"
Chief Osceola 10/08/07
I thought X played great, Carr played great, **** had some nice catches, we got Parker the ball. However, the playcalling was suspect at times. We had success when Jimbo was creative running misdirections and such, but other times he just had Lee sitting in the shotgun, which is not what we want to do with him. Our O-line has proven that we cannot line up and run the ball traditionally, so we have to use misdirections, roll out Lee, QB draws, etc.

I was about to vomit seeing NC State screen us to death! Screen left, 12 yards....Screen right, 17 yards, Screen left 23 yards. How many times can you get owned on screens?

Sure we have a shot to win the acc, but the schedule is brutal. Miami doesn't look good but they always play us the toughest, VT looked pretty good the other night, Maryland is getting hot, BC is the real deal (their offense is legit, they might have 500 yards against us).

Anyways, we are back in the top 25 baby!
DC Nolesfan 10/08/07
Good morning Nole fans!

How bout X? Our defense left something to be desired...but we handled the Bama win pressure and won.

I really think we have a shot at the ACC title too. Miami is losing some of it's game appeal. VT the same (but it's on the road so it still ought to be a tough one). Maryland is always a tough game (but we have them at Doak luckily)...and BC (they haven't had the toughest of schedules yet, and they've only played 1 away game, which though it was at GT...isn't looking all that big anymore).
Chief Osceola 10/08/07
I'm more worried about BC right now than any other team.
ChadNole 10/08/07
we will see what happens badger fan. fsu might make a run at the acc, but who is going to beat BC? Even if BC gets a loss, we still have Miami, Maryland, BC, and Va Tech (all tough conference games). Wake is no walk in the park either. I like us to beat Va Tech and Miami, but the other 2 scare me a lot
DC Nolesfan 10/08/07
i was right there with you 4thand1!! it really makes me nervous playing with no linebackers! they either sit at home and don't attack the line of scrimmage, or they simply run around like idiots and take themselves out of the play.

we got the win, but our back 7 is going to get eaten up by good teams. im loving the downfield passing, but again, good teams will take that **** away. we have to be able to run the ball.

anyways, go gators! haha, i thought LSU was gonna blow it for a minute. Go Stanford!
DC Nolesfan 10/08/07
I think FSU can do some damage in the ACC, they've got momentum on their side
ahhh never mind...question answered. Wow is this thing wide open now or what. We should be in the Top 25 this week. Big game this week. I hope we get things figured out on Offense...we have a real chance to go ona roll in the ACC. I hope we can take advantage of it.
4thand1 10/07/07
OMG at least we won, but it appears that we still have a long way to go on offense...but what a day !!! If Florida hangs on...who is going to be #1 now !!! Cal, Ohio State, BC ???
4thand1 10/06/07
Wow this is going to drive me to drink...lol. Hmmmm I still have 2 years of eligibility left....maybe I should limber up my leg and move back to Florida....I could walk on and make chip shots FG's....lol.
4thand1 10/06/07
where's the defense ??? This is smelling like an upset !!! Someone needs to step up and make a play !!!
4thand1 10/06/07
yeah the tickets are outrageous. let me know if you make the trip up though. we will have to tailgate it up if you do!
DC Nolesfan 10/06/07
Cheapest VT-FSU tix I can find are $175 each @ ticketspot.com

Dang. I might have to rethink this. haha
Chief Osceola 10/05/07
Oh...DC...I've been thinking of making a road trip up to VT. It's a full days drive from here...but I've never been to the VT campus. If I go, I'll drive up Friday, game Sat...and back Sunday. ROAD TRIP!!!
Chief Osceola 10/05/07
With the streaking...you are clearly the #1 fan.

I've been crazy busy this week for the most part and didn't get around to the predicts. I'll do a quick one with no observations before the day is up...but I expect

FSU 38
NCSTATE 14
Chief Osceola 10/05/07
I'm hoping for 52-14

but NC State has been tough for us recently. they arent very good this year, but they havent been very good the last few years and have had our number. dont be surprised if it's closer than you would think

and yes we are going streaking! haha. if we beat florida this year i will be doing that in the streets of DC. anybody gonna bail me out of jail?
DC Nolesfan 10/05/07
Where are the Week 6 predictions Chief?

Whatcugot for the NCSU game?

FSU - 31
NCSU - 3
ChadNole 10/04/07
We're goin streakin!!!!!!
ChadNole 10/04/07
haha u didnt strike a nerve, im just tired of yall fockin with me like i aint a real fan! lol

when chris rix hit pk sam for the hail mary victory at UF, i stripped down butt naked and ran around my house like an idiot. only thing i could think to do besides diving out my window with excitement! is that passionate enough for u?
DC Nolesfan 10/04/07
like i said a fairweather fan is someone who is only around when they are good. he still watches every second of every game.

there are 300 active members in the dc noles fan group up here in dc, and we couldn't get anybody to commit to going to the va tech game because nobody wants to spend the money till they show us something.

i think thats kind of wack though. im gonna be there for sure! it's 4.5 hours away, but its the closest game. tickets are through the roof, but oh well
DC Nolesfan 10/04/07
I touched a nerve. Haha. You just said he dumped the season tix since they sucked. Sounded fair-weathered.

Actually the corner endzone seats aren't bad as long as you aren't in the endzone. Mine are on the twenty and up high enough where I can tell whats happening on the far side of the field.
Chief Osceola 10/04/07
he didnt have any priority to begin with, so the seats are corner of the end zone

fair weathered my ****. why would he continue to spend all that money when they did the same thing for 6 years and didnt even try to change? fairweather fans are people who have nothing to do with a team until they start doing good. i despise my dolphins right now, but i still watch them and route them on
DC Nolesfan 10/04/07
Fair-weathered fan comes to mind. The biggest problem is that he lost a lot of his priority, so if he does renew...the seats won't be as good.
Chief Osceola 10/04/07
next year's home schedule is the ****. if they continue doing well my brother will renew his season tickets and ill be flying down there quite a bit. he boycotted this year and gave up his ticks until they show us something

sound like anyone else you know? haha
DC Nolesfan 10/04/07
Understood. At least next year will have more than 5 home games.
Chief Osceola 10/04/07
I'll have my girls the weekend of the Miami game! I wish I could go! Maybe next year will be more convenient for mine and FSU's schedule.
ChadNole 10/03/07
No Miami either? Pull it together Chad! Ha!
Chief Osceola 10/03/07
No, I'll be in Orlando this weekend. I'm going to try to make it to the Duke game though.
ChadNole 10/03/07
Clearly. You goin to Tally this weekend Chad?
Chief Osceola 10/03/07
Clearly we have some pull in the program!
ChadNole 10/03/07
Hahaha! Lauging at "FSU Fans around the world thank the know-it-alls at Fannation".

Nice!
Chief Osceola 10/03/07
Nice pictures Steve!

They should allow pictures to be posted on here.
ChadNole 10/03/07
http://www.allcanes.com/blog/uploaded_images/crybaby-723499.jpg
steve80984 10/02/07
Grandma Hates Gators http://www.mostlymuppet.com/images/gators_suck.jpg
steve80984 10/02/07
The beatdown is awesome!

UF...Tex...ahhh....it's good to be a Nole this week.
Chief Osceola 10/02/07
Click on the word "Locker Talk" to get the full link ^^
ChadNole 10/02/07
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z308/fsurules1974/SabanBEATDOWN.gif
ChadNole 10/02/07
check the comments on the Lee story

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/22929

There is a Texas fan and a UF fan talking **** after they both lost to mediocre teams! Nice to be on the other side of this type of thing now!

Roll Tribe!
DC Nolesfan 10/02/07
Love the new Logo !!! Love the call to make X the Starter !!! Love the new feeling of confidence this team has now !!! Love the poise X showed against Bama !!! Love The Auburn Tigers (well...at least for a one week...lol) how's it feel Gators !!! Finally Love Dem NOLES !!! Roll Tribe !!!
4thand1 10/01/07
All I can say is it was about time. Good call to the coaches
Clearly Jimbo and Co. are members of this group here on FanNation and took our advice!
ChadNole 10/01/07
hey how good does that quote look now fellas? :)

it's a shame it took so long for the coaches to figure it out!
DC Nolesfan 10/01/07
damn bowden is killin me these days! haha. he didnt even remember the fumble we recovered! and like there is any question who the starter will be for the rest of the year. even if Lee is kicked off the squad tommorow drew should not start
DC Nolesfan 10/01/07
"Bowden said offensive coordinator Jimbo Fisher would make the decision on a starter for next week's game against North Carolina State.

"If he doesn't make the right one (decision), I'll correct him," Bowden teased. "

Ha!
Chief Osceola 10/01/07
I'm lovin our new picture! Roll Tribe Roll!

Oh yeah...War Damn Eagle too!
Chief Osceola 10/01/07
hell yeah i like the logo!

i wouldnt say that UF isn't for real, but they sure as hell aren't gonna be contending for another title!
DC Nolesfan 10/01/07
Like the new logo?
ChadNole 09/30/07
WAR DAM EAGLE
ChadNole 09/30/07
=D
ChadNole 09/30/07
Hey DC...I know I had to wait until the LSU game to see if I would concede about UF being for real...but as we all know, I don't have to wait! There will be no conceding! (I'm sure I spelt that wrong!)
ChadNole 09/30/07
oh and forget the colorado win, how bout them auburn tigers huh? heeeeeeeeeeellllll yeah! i was loving that. now UF will go get an **** beating at LSU and bye bye gators!
DC Nolesfan 09/30/07
maybe i was wrong about decody f.a.g.g.!!!! however i was right about X baby! jimbo said they will have to sit down and look at the film and think long and hard about who the starter is gonna be. WHAT? im assuming he is just saying that for competitve edge's sake. drew should never see the field again. not only can we do so much more with X at qb, but he is simply better. he got the ball out quick and made all the throws.

i agree about the defense except mickey jumped in that terrible prevent defense at the end and almost let bama come back. that prevent has cost us a number of games over the years. you gotta keep doing the same thing you've done the whole game mickey! did anybody see bobby was asked about the fumble and he didn't even remember it? whoa buddy, haha.

nice to see you back RBM. what is are your premises on that being the biggest reg. season win in 16 years? i wouldn't go anywhere close to that, but it was a big win!

ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLL TRIBE!
DC Nolesfan 09/30/07
The only way I see it being an upset win is because Bammer was ranked and FSU wasn't. It couldn't have been an upset considering FSU was favored by 2.5.

But it was one hell of a game. It was nice to see this team take the first lead and hold on to it all game! That's what impressed me the most. Also, Colorado beating Oklahoma only makes our win against them look that much better!
ChadNole 09/30/07
Great win...Great game. Really happy with the progress on Defense. They looked good all game, and kept Wilson scrambling all game. 5 sacks...sweeeeet !!! Big shout out to the Jimbo and Bobby for finally swallowing their pride and putting X in at QB......and look....we win !!! Also big shout out to X for taking full advantage of his situation and not making the big mistake that CBS kept hoping he would make. Another shout out to Drew Weatherford for being a good teammate and cheering the boys on. This has to be tough on Drew...knowing now that X will start against the WolfPack, and likely the rest of the year, but good on em for putting the team 1st. Finally doesn't it just burn your britches when they call this an Upset win ??? 10 years ago it wouldn't have been, suddenly this is...an upset win. Whatever !!! GO NOLES !!! I hope we bash the crap out of the WolfPack !!!
4thand1 09/30/07
Guys, sorry to have not been on in awhile (school is killing me these days). but that was a

HUUUUUUUUUGE Win!

.....probably the biggest regular-season win since beating Michigan in 1991.
rbm921* 09/29/07
Who knows Hall could have been just as subpar as Carr, O'Neal, F.a.g.g
i agree, and who would pass on guys with the physical skills of carr and ****? the bus factor on those guys is amazing
DC Nolesfan 09/28/07
No Jax for me...I may try to make the Duke trip though...

About DJ...It is funny how things work out. But who knows, Hall may have been just as successful as F.a.g.g., Carr, and O'Neal at FSU under Jeffy!
ChadNole 09/28/07
did anybody see the story about dj hall being from ft. walton beach and wanted to go to FSU. we didnt offer him a scholarship because we offered 3 to Greg Carr, Decody F.a.g.g., and Kenny Oneal. I guess all these guys looked like awesome recruits back then. Funny how things turn out
DC Nolesfan 09/28/07
i guess everybody is on the way down to jax today?
DC Nolesfan 09/28/07
good story now, but i wanted to crawl into a hole and die at the time. i wasn't just cheering i was jumping up and down screaming at the top of my lungs. i bet people were sayin, "what is this guy on?"
DC Nolesfan 09/28/07
Haha great story DC.
Hahaha @ DC's Miami celebrations. Just know that against Miami you should never cheer for our kicker until the points are on the board. :(
Chief Osceola 09/27/07
Chief nailed it.

DC, first of all...LOL @ your celebration! Second, I'm on NoleDigest.com and FSUrules.com
ChadNole 09/27/07
Yeah I remember that just didn't know the whole story. while tailgating before the 2003 orange bowl in miami i was partying with some for real seminole indians that said they were "straight out of the everglades". they said they loved the noles and were proud of the mascot. one of them was a miami fan though! they had a tomahawk bigger than me and i have a picture of all of us acting like we are attacking the miami fan. pretty fun night until we blew the game on the missed field goal. i was in the corner of the end zone and i didn't look at the refs saying the field goal was no good. i was drunk and thought we made it so i was jumping up and down. my brother said, what the **** are u doing they missed it. they should have put my dumbass on sportscenter, man that was embarrasing
DC Nolesfan 09/27/07
I don't want to speak for Chad, but I assume the mascot issue is what came about last year when the NCAA banned the use of an Native American mascot. TK got the Seminole Tribe of Florida to issue a declaration that they were proud to have FSU represent them, and FSU was released from the sanction by the NCAA. Before the NCAA allowed FSU to continue using "Seminoles"...TK threatened to take them to court over it.
Chief Osceola 09/27/07
chad....can u enlighten on the mascot deal?

what other message boards are you on?
DC Nolesfan 09/27/07
So basically the NCAA sees this as a way to get back at FSU for the mascot deal? What a crock!
Chief Osceola 09/27/07
Chief, JJ said FSUrules should be back up soon, they are working on the server....

Some on the message boards think that the NCAA is going to come down hard on FSU for TK threatning to sue over the mascot thing.
ChadNole 09/27/07
Glad to hear they weren't football or track guys. I read the article this morning and it seems like most of the "cheating" was because they received tutoring from a tutor when they weren't eligible to receive help. Honestly...I didn't really understand the cheating.
Chief Osceola 09/27/07
Bad news boys....

23 FSU athletes were accused of cheating on internet exams...the good news, none of them are football players that have played. Our Mens Track NC's are also good...so I hear.
ChadNole 09/27/07
Nope, FSUrules is not working for me at all.
ChadNole 09/27/07
i dont think fat boy phil fulmer would have let this slide
DC Nolesfan 09/27/07
Chad...
Is fsurules working for you? Just wanting to make sure it's not me specifically who's being shunned!
Chief Osceola 09/26/07
Bobby Bowden cracking the whip.
Geno was demoted to 2nd string. Will not start, but will play.
ChadNole 09/26/07
haha....funny stuff guys

even funnier....Hayes is getting to play (just not start).

This is the biggest joke in years. Way to show em how much class we have Bobby. God, he amazes me. And it's not like we really need him as he hasn't played very well thus far.
DC Nolesfan 09/26/07
since Hayes will get to play on Sat against Bama, i'll let Garth Jax know his services are no longer needed for that game.....LOL
ATLfan7 09/26/07
Guys, we can't leave out Biletnikoff!!
ChadNole 09/25/07
Corso might be willing to step up. Sunshine Scooter rides again. Haha
Chief Osceola 09/25/07
if we are goin that old lets throw burt reynolds in the mix. put him in when we need a legitimate injury to stop the clock!
DC Nolesfan 09/25/07
Okay if we're gonna go 'old school', then someone should call Ron Simmons and see if he'll play NG......provided that his wrestling career is officially over. LOL
ATLfan7 09/25/07
Haha, trust me Weinke is more than available. Carolina would trade him for 2 50 Yard Line Tickets to the game!
DC Nolesfan 09/24/07
Lol nice. Someone check if Chris Weinke is available
Seminoles AARP team vs. Bama?

I kinda like the idea. ;)
Chief Osceola 09/24/07
i heard that terrell buckley might suit up for this game since the secondary is so bad. no all we need is jones and brooks to come play linebacker and we should be alright! maybe get deon's old **** out there too!
DC Nolesfan 09/24/07
Yeah DC...our defense should be able to compete, but we've had NO offense as of yet. And with Bama coming off a loss, they'll be wanting redemption. I don't know which way this one will go. Bama has the better team...but there's always that unpredictable element.
Chief Osceola 09/24/07
we should be able to compete with bama. their offense isnt very good. however their defense just might eat us alive
DC Nolesfan 09/24/07
the leg doesnt seem that broken if he punched a cop.

as far as hayes, he isnt as big of a loss as it seems. all of the linebackers have been awful so maybe we have somebody below him that can tackle. he has 19 tackles and would have about 50 if he didnt run around like he doesnt know whats going on and wiff 50% of the time
DC Nolesfan 09/24/07
Geno still may play. There has been no word either way, unless I missed something.

4thand1, you can read the police report in the Democrat that says Surratt "ran" at one of the Officers and the Officer pushed him down. Surratt has a broken leg, so how did he run?
ChadNole 09/24/07
I want Hayes to be able to play in this game, but then again I dont want him to play. This was the last thing FSU needed, playing Bama is going to be tough enough without this.
OK so they're in a Bar drinking underage...its their off weekend. I get that part. Now are the Cops who go into this place being the Egotictical Retreads that alot of Law Enforcement Officers enter that situation with and provoke the situation...(happens up here all the time)? Or is this just a case of two guys drinking too much for their swelled heads and they got what they had coming ??? You know I'm not going to pass judgement yet....but you know I just don't get it....I would give my Left you know what for the chance that these two guys have and it just amazes me how guys like that screw up their "Big Shot". I realize that brings up a way, way too deep topic, but it drives me nuts !!! Just what this team needed to be focused on in their by-week. Nice !!!
4thand1 09/21/07
Have a good weekend boys. Maybe come Monday we'll have the info on Geno and Joe
ChadNole 09/21/07
If he comes back for the bama game, than that is a joke as well. he will miss one game for that ****. but knowing bowden he might just make him run laps, haha
DC Nolesfan 09/21/07
Hayes got tazed? What a bunch of idiots. Might as well give Bama 14 points as an extra bonus.
Chief Osceola 09/21/07
Geno may be back for Bama. He has no felony charges. Surratt does for hitting the cop, but yet Geno got taz's. Geno could still be back for Bammer.
ChadNole 09/21/07
surrat is out with a broken leg but so he punches a cop? what an idiot. sounded like hayes was actin like an animal too

way to go guys. our linebackers have sucked bad enough, now our best 1 is out for bama

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
DC Nolesfan 09/21/07
In case none of you have heard...

Hayes and Surratt were both arrested last night in an altercation with police. FSU has suspended both of them pending their investigation.
ChadNole 09/21/07
Welcome PC Noles (haha close to my name!)
DC Nolesfan 09/21/07
The U was impressive last night for sure!
DC Nolesfan 09/21/07
I'm glad to see Miami represent the ACC well last night!! It does make me a little nervous though.
ChadNole 09/21/07
Did anyone watch that Miami game last night? Wow! Miami was back for that one. That's not what I wanna see Oct 20th.
Chief Osceola 09/21/07
That fsurules.com site Chad posted is actually pretty cool. Of course warchant and si and espn are good for updates.
Chief Osceola 09/21/07
Amen to that. Where is a better site to talk **** about sports?
DC Nolesfan 09/21/07
Nah...I just finally start doing work @ noon. Morning are meant for fannation and other sites. Haha!
Chief Osceola 09/20/07
i guess all the noles fans get off work at noon? haha, cuz there is never anybody on here in the afternoon! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
DC Nolesfan 09/20/07
i got the i am a seminole t-shirt before the season started. ill sell it to you for 35 cents. haha jk. i also won a shirt at the dc noles game watching party.

i sure hope to see Lee in this game, and then we need to stay with him for good. who are your sources JJ?
DC Nolesfan 09/20/07
Wish I was going to the Bammer game! I may try to make the NC State game.

JJ has said that he was told Jimbo was very disappointed with DW. That DW was coached to not make mistakes which is why he holds on to the ball taking sacks, missing WR, etc. He also said to expect XL to play in the Bammer game in some special packages! Should be a fun game!
ChadNole 09/20/07
I almost bought the Roll Tribe shirt, but ended up with a different one. Would've bought the I Am A Seminole, We Are Florida State shirt, but they were sold out by game day. I'll get one before NC State.

Anyone here going to the Bama game? Sadly I'm not.
Chief Osceola 09/20/07
definitely a nice pic! i love the shirts that say "roll tribe". i was gonna get one but im not spending any more money on these b.a.s.t.a.r.d.s. until they show me something
DC Nolesfan 09/20/07
tought to utilize anybody with no offensive line. our only chance is to run misdirection plays, reverses, counters, trick plays. we need to do a lot of motion before the snap and then get the defense going one way and cut back the other. when you arent any good up front you have to do some things to compensate for that. im more worried about the defense to tell you the truth.
DC Nolesfan 09/20/07
I think we should do this for each opponent. So be on the look out for some good pictures for future opponents.
ChadNole 09/19/07
HAHAHA @ our new picture! You might be a Bama fan if...!
Chief Osceola 09/19/07
And by the way, McDaniel could be our Harvin!! We just need to utilize him. He was the WR the coaches lined up at Rb sometimes...
ChadNole 09/19/07
i think it was paul. i wonder why he hasnt seen the field yet?
DC Nolesfan 09/19/07
Reed or Paul.
ChadNole 09/19/07
who was the kid we got this year that was supposed to be comparable to percy harvin? (obviously not his caliber, but similar type player)
DC Nolesfan 09/19/07
Parker and Goodman need to be the starting receivers and bring Carr in for situational plays to stretch the field. If I was coaching Decody F.a.g.g. wouldn't even dress! That guy cant catch a beach ball and cant even block.

you are in denial if you think we dont have a lack of talent. The linebackers suck, the entire seconary is horrible with the exception of carter and rolle (robinson looks good). the offensive line if horiphic (i think u agree there). most of the receivers suck, but there is some light with the younger guys.

the only bright spots are the defensive line, antoine smith, and parker/goodman.

they play about 20 guys a game on the back 7 on defense and 90% of them are terrible. to me, that is a lack of talent. until we get some real players for that and the offensive line, we are gonna struggle
DC Nolesfan 09/19/07
I don't think we have a serious lack of talent. I just don't think we are using the right talent. Parker and McDaniel need to see more PT. And if we can get Lee involved, we should be alright.
ChadNole 09/19/07
in regards to the poll.....what is the definition of "turn things around" and "prepared for bama"?

i think they have a shot to be competitive, but with the serious lack of talent, i believe we will be in trouble. but Bama's offense isn't very good so we should have a shot
DC Nolesfan 09/19/07
I have no idea what was up with the DW draw or Option run. Maybe he thought the D wouldn't be expecting it because I can promise you nobody on earth expected it! Either that or somebody put some JB serum in his water for a couple of plays.
ChadNole 09/18/07
agreed agreed agreed.

lmao about the Dear LSU, please send Jimbo's playbook!

His play calling has been a little better, but how did you like seeing him run the option with Drew? Or the QB draw on 3rd and long. He still is not running the offense he ran at LSU. They did all kinds of stuff. We do about as much motion as a tree
DC Nolesfan 09/18/07
That's supposed to say F.A.G.G.
ChadNole 09/18/07
His play calling has actually gotten better. I wasn't a big fan of it in the Clemson game. It seems he had it mixed nicely in the Colorado game. The players just need to execute the plays better. OL needs to block, WR (****) need to catch the ball, QB (Drew) needs to throw the damn ball!
ChadNole 09/18/07
Or...as someone from nolesports.com said...

"Dear LSU: Please send Jimbo's playbook to Tallahassee!"
Chief Osceola 09/18/07
haha nice work!
DC Nolesfan 09/18/07
Love that quote fellas! :-)
ATLfan7 09/18/07
Done! :D
ChadNole 09/18/07
can we change trickett's quote over there to:

"Lee should clearly be the starter" --- The know it all's at fannation
DC Nolesfan 09/18/07
The Vols may be "overated", but they have plenty of talent and had won 2 out of the last 3 trips to the swamp. The Gators beat the tar out of them. 59 points?? Trust me, they are for real. The LSU game should be great
DC Nolesfan 09/18/07
OMG there's that Gator talk again...Gators Suck !!!...lol. Seriously though, Tebow is a stud, he was the real deal last year, and could have started, but Florida owed it to Leak to let him start. Urban did a wonderful job showing Tebow the ropes this year. I think UF is better this year than they were last year....and one of two teams in the SEC that is capible of beating LSU (LSU is the other....lol).
4thand1 09/17/07
Well all I can really say is Tebow is for real. I thought Tenn was a little overrated coming in and Phat Phil is known for letting some big games go anyway. If UF beats LSU, then I will concede.
ChadNole 09/17/07
Yeah it's always been clear that he can run the ball and throw the long ball well. The only question is can he make all the throws when there is good downfield coverage. The scary thing is, with Florida's receivers, he may never need to throw a pass under 20 yards!!!
DC Nolesfan 09/17/07
Florida's 59-20 win over UT spoke volumes. I was one of the Tebow critics heading into this season. I really thought that the reason he was so effective was because he was behind Leak...and other defenses were playing scout teams that focused on Leak...so when Tebow came in, the other defenses just weren't prepared for his style of play. After seeing Tennessee being run all over Saturday, it's clear that Tebow is just that good. Scary good.
Chief Osceola 09/17/07
Chad do you think Florida is for real now?
DC Nolesfan 09/17/07
yes chadnole, thats a good one! i miss having playmakers who i was confident in to make a play when we needed it.
DC Nolesfan 09/17/07
I say we blame Warrick, Dunn, Brooks and Ward for not having clones constantly circulating through FSU.
ChadNole 09/17/07
6 wins would be stellar with this schedule!

Now that Jeff is gone who do we blame now? I say we blame Charlie Ward, Warrick Dunn, Peter Warrick, Derick Brooks, etc for creating such a standard of excellence with high expectations!

Haha, you know im kidding
DC Nolesfan 09/17/07
Okay...we have 2 weeks off. Two weeks to prepare for Alabama. If we don't make some sort of improvement in this game...I'm with 4thand1. We'll be lucky to get 6 wins.
ChadNole 09/17/07
Carter did play well and the LBs were on their game, but the whole team still looked uninspired....or maybe the word i need to use here is apathetic (like they didn't care). yeah, i saw the 'attempt' by F-A-G-G to catch that pass downfield....i was cussing after he missed it; it hit him right in the chest. UGHHH!!!
ATLfan7 09/17/07
I've been saying this since the first game. At least we can be creative with Lee. And with a terrible offensive line, Lee has the ability to get away from the 2-3 defenders that are on his **** immediately every play. The defense played better, but Colorado is HORRIBLE. A good team would beat them by 50. However, let me take back what I said about how terrible our back 7 is, because Patrick Robinson looks like a stud and Tony Carter played well. Also, did anybody notice that the linebackers showed up? I was wondering if they had just missed the bus for the first couple games. Decody F.a.g.g. redeemed himself with a couple catches, but I still think he is garbage. Did you see that pathetic attempt of a catch when he was wide open downfield?
DC Nolesfan 09/17/07
i agree....give Lee a chance. whatever Lee does can't be worse than what we've already seen......yes, that game Sat night was painful to watch.
ATLfan7 09/17/07
You know...I've been a Drew Weatherford backer. Even when the comparisons to Chris Rix come up...I back Drew...however that's 3 games in a row he has struggled...its time to put the ball in Xavier's hand and let him prove that he should be the man. Drew's had his chance and has not delivered. That was painful to watch Saturday night. Lets not wait Manuel to show up and save the program. Give Xavier his shot and lets see if he can save this season. I'm trying to stay positive, but I'm thinking at this rate 6 wins might be the best we'll do this year and that would hurt. Xavier Lee deserves at least the same opprotunity that Drew has recieved....you thoughts ???
4thand1 09/16/07
thanks 4thand1
Everything I read today suggests that Mickey didn't leave with the team, but likely caught another flight and is suppose to be at the game Saturday night. Not sure if that is in the booth or on the sidelines. Maybe somebody else can help with that info.
4thand1 09/14/07
Thanks Chief, Happy to be here....GO NOLES !!! I have a good feeling about this one !!!
4thand1 09/14/07
Mickey Andrews is going to be there for the game in Boulder in right?
Welcome aboard 4thand1.

I'm expecting our team to come alive this weekend, and I've certainly not lost confidence in our boys.

Go Noles!
Chief Osceola 09/14/07
whoa UF game is looking a little far ahead isn't it. Fact here is that FSU's recruiting classes the last few years have not measured up. We don't have the quality depth that we enjoyed in the 90's and that is reflected on the field. You can't fix that overnight. The 1st half against Clemson was horrible, yes...and give UAB some credit, they didn't roll over and die. Hopefully we get a strong effort tomorrow night in Boulder and start to build some momentum and confidence. This is still a good football team with some good players !!! A little confidence and momentum will go a long way in helping this team develop.
4thand1 09/14/07
We will see an improved team this weekend boys. Mark it down! Championship!
ChadNole 09/14/07
I'm with Chad here. I know it's been 2 pitiful defensive performances the first 2 games (especially during the first half of each)...but I don't think we're stagnant in the sense that we won't be improving. Keep in mind that Mickey Andrews wasn't around last week, and he's a HUGE motivating factor for our defense.

As for Florida scoring 50 points...I think you're taking out of perspective the fact that this is an in-state rivalry. Regardless of certain team strengths, we usually always (usually) make this a game. Florida is loaded on offense, but when clicking, our offense isn't too bad (look at 520 yards last week, with over 180 rushing). I don't expect us to win...but I won't give UF 50 points either.
Chief Osceola 09/14/07
I agree with you there, it does all start up front
Okay, let's talk D. And again, I missed the UAB game so all I can talk is Clemson.

The D looked like**** Pure**** But in my head, that is the least of my worries. They are no worse than last year! They are missing a lot more tackles this year. I'm not sure why either. I expect them to step it up as well. I can't believe you guys actually think that we are on autopilot at this point and are just not going to get any better! And the DL does not look good at all! The only one with a sack is Moffett and he has 2. 2 sacks by the DL. Maybe if they were putting better heat on the QB, opposing QB's wouldn't make our Secondary look so bad! How long do you really expect a Sec to stay with a WR when the DL should be pressuring the QB. We just haven't really seen that!
ChadNole 09/13/07
I agree its hard to think positively about this team. The only real talented defensive player on this team is Myron Rolle. During the season opener versus Clemson the announcers were talking about how good FSU's linebackers are but I wasnt seeing it. I think its about time to put Xavier Lee in there, While Weatherford has been more consistentish, he's just not getting the job done. Its gonna take a whole lot more than Rick Trickett to get this o-line to block. The wr's are garbage, Goodman has had his moments, but its just not acceptable as compared to normal FSU standards, I hate to say this but UF probably will crush FSU, idc what motivational speeches Bobby Bowden uses, its still a mediocre team
Dude come on. What about the defense? The back 7 is the worst it has been in 20 years. It's like the linebackers are not even on the field. Roger Williams, JR Bryant, Garvin, and everyone except Myron Rolle would be water boys at other schools. Tony Carter is ok, but he is way overated and wouldn't see the field at other schools. We seriously lack talent and if you can't see that, talk to me at the end of the season. Even the team admits that every game is going to be a struggle. We have nothing on the o-line, the recievers suck (although goodman and parker look pretty good). The ONLY bright spots on this team are the defensive line and Antoine Smith (but we have no line to block for him).

So please refrain from that we have to get them to forget about JB's scheme. WE JUST ARE NOT A GOOD FOOTBALL TEAM. I can see being optomistic, but let's not call crap air freshener. FSU didn't play a tough opponent last week and barely won. UF played Troy and whipped them. Trust me, UF will put up 50 points on that raggedy **** defense we have. I have never seen a back 7 so bad. They can't tackle, can't cover, can't do anything. I'm tired of seeing midgets out there running around like they don't know what the eff is going on. We should just line up 11 defensive lineman and not have linebackers or a secondary cuz they arent even there.

All that being said, our only hope is mixing it up on offense (like we did in the 2nd half against UAB). When your players arent very good, you have to be creative instead of predictable.
DC Nolesfan 09/13/07
Man I have had so much going on in my real life it has been taking away from my e-life.

X will def play. Or he should anyway. And I agree that when he is in, opposing D's need to worry about the scramble and deep ball. He keeps the D on their toes. But, DW has been more consistent in his first two games this year than I have seen him since he came to FSU. We still have solid talent. Not as great as the 90's, but we still have it! All we have to do is get these guys to forget everything they were taught by JB and company and get them to learn Jimbo and company! Once we do that, we ill be fine. And before you say UF will blow us away, lets see how they fare against Tenn this weekend. They haven't played a tough opponent yet!
ChadNole 09/13/07
Nah...not life support. An IV drip maybe...but we're more active than most of the schools.
Chief Osceola 09/13/07
this group is on life support!
DC Nolesfan 09/13/07
but im glad to see you back chad nole! where the hell u been buddy?
DC Nolesfan 09/12/07
i agree that our OL is better than last year simply because it could not possibly get any worse. what is your definition of "we will be fine come florida". if you are talking about the gators, they will BEAT THE TAR out of FSU. possibly by 50 points. Drew did play well the other day, but the QB controversy is FAR from over. Fisher mixed it up in the 2nd half and got out of that **** shotgun is why Drew was succesful. However, Lee still gives a better chance with his mobility and capablity. We can be way more creative with Lee under center than we can with Drew. The bottom line is, we have a bunch of **** players and coaching can only go so far with bad players. You didn't watch the UAB game. We were lucky to even win that game. There is not 1 automatic win on our schedule, and it is going to be a long season. Dont be surprised if Colorado wins on saturday
DC Nolesfan 09/12/07
Oh I am def not defending this line. I do think though that they have more talent than our OL last year. Once they get things together, we will be fine! The QB battle is no longer a controversy IMO, Drew has handled the job very well and I am impressed. He can do better, but he's doing better than I though. Give the OL some time to gel together and we'll be fine come Florida.
ChadNole 09/12/07
The only thing different about the 2nd half of the Clemson game is that they got the ball to Smith and he made things happen (without much help from the line). Please tell me you are not defending this terrible line. That has been our biggest problem for years. If you don't have anything up front, you don't have anything at all
DC Nolesfan 09/12/07
Well he didn't lie in the 2nd half of the Clemson game. I missed the UAB game both that night and on Sunshine. I have to believe that after the good ole "F U" that he gave Rose during the Clemson game, that we will start seeing some guys hit people in the mouth.
ChadNole 09/11/07
I'm just thankful it isn't a Loyd Carr quote. See...glass half full.
Chief Osceola 09/11/07
Judging by the Noles performance in the last two games, Rick is STILL looking for some guys who will hit people in the mouth. LOL
ATLfan7 09/11/07
Is there anyway we can change the "group quote" by rick trickett since he is a liar? haha
DC Nolesfan 09/11/07
haha i didnt notice! thats a good thing anyway, hey shouldnt have his name on any sports page! the way he is playing
DC Nolesfan 09/11/07
i can't believe FN is censoring F-A-G-G......too funny!
ATLfan7 09/10/07
there was nothing positive about that first half. the good thing is they were creative in the 2nd half and did some things that are neccesary if we are to be succesful. if i was the coach i would bench decody **** for richard goodman. **** seems like a waste of an athletic body. goodman and parker look way better than **** and carr (although carr finally came through with some decent catches)

as long as we continue to run the ball, we will have a chance. it was nice to see fisher mix it up in the 2nd half. that is what we saw at LSU, not shotgun every play.
DC Nolesfan 09/10/07
12 penalties for 131 yards wasn't too good either. Quite a few of those were on defense helping to keep UAB drives alive.
Chipper13 09/10/07
We looke awful the first half...AGAIN. Ended up having a good offensive day with over 500 yards offense and over 180 yards rushing. Sad news being our opponent was UAB. The season isn't looking promising. Most teams aren't as forgiving when they lead at halftime.
Chief Osceola 09/10/07
How did the Noles look on Saturday? i don't get to watch a lot of their games, unless it's on a major network.
ATLfan7 09/10/07
No, I agree with you on that with the talent level as well. FSU hasn't had very good recruiting years lately, but I do believe they have enough talent to win more games than what they have with the new offense.
Seminoles Fan 09/07/07
seminoles fan, the problem is the talent level, not the new scheme. fisher and all those coaches know what they are doing. you said that like we have had a good offense in recent years

it will take time to get good players, that is the problem
DC Nolesfan 09/07/07
I think with any new offensive cordinator its going to take some time but I think its going the right direction.
Seminoles Fan 09/06/07
Looks like we're the 33 point favorites Saturday. Then again...we were favorites against Clemson too...though only by 3 points.

Having me in the stands ought to help though. ;)
Chief Osceola 09/06/07
Losing Richt and Ammato also hurt us in recruiting BIG TIME!
DC Nolesfan 09/05/07
Yeah, once Mark Richt took his scheme to Georgia it hasn't been pretty. Plus we've also gone away from the QB's not starting until they are Juniors plan...but, I honestly think Jimbo will get all this worked out, eventually.
Chipper13 09/05/07
7 years of bad coaching and bad recruiting can't be fixed over night. They are a long way away from being the noles of old
DC Nolesfan 09/05/07
one of our biggest problems in the past 7 years has been abandoning the run too early. of course that is the reason we quit running (quite clear), but that was not the right thing to do. you have to committ to the no matter what. it was still the first half, so there was plenty of time.
DC Nolesfan 09/05/07
no it wasnt weatherford's fault. he was running for his life the entire game. but until we have anything at all up front to block, weatherford doesnt have the ability to get away from them, so it's gotta be Lee
DC Nolesfan 09/05/07
Wasn't Weatherford's fault the first half the O line couldn't block anybody.
steve80984 09/04/07
I think the reason we quit running in the 1st half was just because we got behind so quickly and they were completly shutting down Smith in the backfield -- due to our freshman/sophomore OLine just being blindsided. Clemson was really pumped up on D the first half. Once the "Mo" turned in the 2nd half after the safty that's when Smith starting breaking things open and stepping up. As for the sacks and not seeing X in the game....I have no clue.
Chipper13 09/04/07
that's okay DC....i think all FSU fans are a little hungover after that game last night.
ATLfan7 09/04/07
i just noticed that i am extremely hungover at work and keep typing phrases that dont make sense, my apologies
DC Nolesfan 09/04/07
yeah 3rd quarter was ours, but it doesnt matter cuz when it is time for somebody to make a play in the clutch, we are incapable. did anyone else notice that smith had 90 yards on 16 carries? we are we still not committing to the run? Give him the damn ball at least 25 times, if not 30+. Yes they threw it to him, but he should be touching the ball much more
DC Nolesfan 09/04/07
Wow. Just wow. 3rd quater was our's...but that first half...wow.
Chief Osceola 09/04/07
Good question ATL. The entire team was terrible, but as long as Weatherford is out QB, we are going nowhere. How bout late in the game on those 3rd downs, where under no circumstances should you take a sack, and thats exactly what he did. Throw and interception, fumble the ball, heave it downfield for grabs, DO ANYTHING EXCEPT TAKE A SACK on 3rd down with the game on the line. All those coaching changes and the same ole ****. The offensive line was horrible, The linebackers were NON EXISTENT, the secondary was terrible. The only bright spots were we generated a nice pass rush and Antoine Smith made some nice plays, although we didn't get him the ball enough. Was anybody else pissed that we came out in the shotgun and pretty much stayed there all night. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO RUN THE FOOTBALL? I thought we were gonna see something new.....it was like Jeff was still in the box.
DC Nolesfan 09/04/07
Why didn't Fisher give Lee a chance last night? Weatherford proved in the first five series that he can't advance the ball downfield. That was a dismal performance by the team in general.
ATLfan7 09/04/07
The day is finally here! Can't wait for 8:00.....GO NOLES!
ATLfan7 09/03/07
No doubt Clemson has been a thorn in our side lately...but I'm hoping our boys want some revenge for last years season. Also...no more Jeff...so it's do or die time.
Chief Osceola 08/30/07
i really hope they are ready, but Clemson has been tough for us lately. Not to mention they are gonna by hyped up because their schedule is set up for a serious run (they play most of the tough teams at home)
DC Nolesfan 08/30/07
I understand it's Death Valley and all...but I'm feeling good about Monday's game. The guys know they need this one and I think they'll be willing to step up for Bobby.

GO NOLES!
Chief Osceola 08/30/07
well i sure hope we get revenge on clemson, but 10 reasons we will win?? i wouldnt go that far

haha, jk GOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLES!
DC Nolesfan 08/29/07
Yeah we need to get back to business here. Sorry boys, I have been very busy lately. I'll try to put up a Top 10 reasons why FSU will beat Clemson some time this week.
ChadNole 08/28/07
I got my Tomahawk ready for Sept 3!! GO 'NOLES!!!
ATLfan7 08/28/07
SO WHAT??? We decided to have an active board until the season starts and then nobody says anything????

LETS GET IT POPPIN FOLKS!

1 WEEK TILL BOWDEN BOWL!

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DC Nolesfan 08/27/07
Starting QB should be announced today or tomorrow.

Would we really be surprised to see that it is Weatherford?
ChadNole 08/22/07
Rivals.com ranks Jimbo Fisher as the #1 OC in the country!!!

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/viewCFSE.asp

also, mickey as #6 DC, Antoine Smith top 25 RB
DC Nolesfan 08/22/07
Weatherford doesn't have anything close to the skills that Rix had, so I wouldn't call him a highly touted recruit not living up to the hype. He is a guy that can be coached to do enough to win, if you surround him with talent. Lee is possibly the biggest QB recruit in the history of the state of Florida, who is not living up to any part of the hype
DC Nolesfan 08/22/07
Is it just me or does Drew Weatherford have a bit of the Chris Rix syndrome, a highly coveted recruit coming in as a freshman, then not really living up to the hype?
hey thanks man! i noticed JR Bryant is absolutely buried at this point, but im sure they will play him at some point. roger williams is still there, dangit. the good thing is i cant remember the last time all of our LBs had size (6'2" 220)
DC Nolesfan 08/21/07
Here's a link to one that I looked at a couple of times, says it was last updated on 8/12/07.

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/cdepthtext.asp?SID=1144&Year=2007&TEAM=FLORIDAST
ATLfan7 08/21/07
Depth Chart

Anyone have an accurate link to an up to date depth chart? I really, really hope JR Bryant and Roger WIlliams aren't still starting. It is a shame that FSU would even put guys like that on the field. I never thought id see a D-1 safety worse than Kyler Hall, but Roger Williams just might be that!
DC Nolesfan 08/21/07
he had all the physical skills in the world. i dont care who your coaches are if you have 4 years as a starter and prove time and time again that you cant make decisions at game speed. the coaches were terrible yes, but do you think they were telling him to lock in on 1 receiver and throw it no matter what?
DC Nolesfan 08/21/07
Sad thing is, we'll never know. I saw a lot of boneheadedness in the kid, but I saw a lot of things I liked as well, not the least of which was how engaged and leadership-oriented he stayed after losing the starting position his senior year. I always thought Rix got a raw deal, but he was always hard to defend since he brought so much grief onto himself.
rbm921* 08/21/07
I totally agree with your concept. I just think he wasn't capable of performing under pressure
DC Nolesfan 08/21/07
I'll agree with you on that to a point, DC. I think Rix never developed good decision-making skills, but at the same time I didn't expect him to have them as a freshman; what I'd expect is that, over time, his decision-making improves through coaching and through an increased comfort level with the offense. Since his coaching was obviously abyssmal and the offense never really seemed to have a clear, consistent objective, I'd say his decision-making stagnated and never developed. I don't think he ever would've been in the category of a Chris Weinke (someone who, 99% of the time, made a dead-on correct read) but with coaching and development he could've at least developed into the sort of decision-maker Thad Busby was.
rbm921* 08/21/07
RBM.....(from story about Lee). Yes coaching had something to with Rix's steady downfall, but trust me, he was never capable of leading us to promise land because there was something majorly wrong with his decision making process. Some people just don't have the mental toughness to play qb

all that aside, everybody was blaming our lack of success on Rix. then we still sucked after he left. dont get me wrong, i will be the first to admit our coaching has been terrible over this span (including bobby. he is senile and hasnt coached a lick in 10 years...love him to death but he doesn't know anything about the game anymore). however, our recruiting and talent level has been down as well. why were we stuck with rix all those years? we didnt have anyone else that could play qb. just like now with weatherford/lee. the kid from va beach is gonna be a stud though
DC Nolesfan 08/20/07
Surrat was pretty good last year in short yardage situations, but the problems with our running game have started up front with the O-line. We can find someone to play fullback, rest assured. It doesn't matter if you have Jim Brown and Mike Alstott in the backfield, if you don't have anybody up front, you are going no where. so no this injury will have little effect on our offense
DC Nolesfan 08/20/07
Well, it's not a good thing. But, Antone Smith runs with a little more force behind him than Booker did, meaning that Surratt may not have had as key a role in the offense this year. And, from what I hear, he was in Jimbo's doghouse for poor committment and lack of conditioning, anyway.
rbm921* 08/19/07
Do you think Surratt's injury will affect the 'Noles offense in any way?
ATLfan7 08/18/07
There is a scrimmage tonight. It's not open to the public though, but the media will be in the media booths.
ChadNole 08/16/07
Well from what I have been reading I would say they are. They still miss their targets occasionally, which is to be expected. The defenders have also been getting a decent number of PBU's. But all it has really been is 1-on-1.
ChadNole 08/15/07
Are the quarterbacks playing any better than they did in the spring?
Damon McDaniel got some time at RB in practice yesterday and the coaches liked what they saw. Think Percy Harvin.
ChadNole 08/15/07
cool thanks man. he's still not a real DB coach, but at least we have someone besides mickey coaching the secondary. i think that's been his only weakness in recent years
DC Nolesfan 08/14/07
To answer your TBuck question

http://floridastate.scout.com/2/665658.html
ChadNole 08/14/07
ill believe it when i see it. i hope it is vastly improved, but it wasnt just last year, the O-line has sucked for 5 or 6 years now.

hey what was up with the T-Buck being a DB coach? Where did you read that? I read he is gonna get his degree and serve as a coaching intern or something. we need a DB coach SOOOO BAD!
DC Nolesfan 08/14/07
Guess who made the switch to TE?

C John Frady!

I expect him to be more of a blocking TE of course.
ChadNole 08/14/07
No kidding about Wells?! He finally made up his mind, huh?
On the QB issue, i hope one of them will step up this year; maybe Lee will get a chance to actually play, instead of spelling Weatherford every now and then.
ATLfan7 08/10/07
Commit #16

4 Star DE Keith Wells

Is a NOLE!
ChadNole 08/10/07
From what I have heard in the Spring and so far during practices, we don't have to worry as much about the OLine like last year.
ChadNole 08/10/07
drew weathorford has average talent. without an offensive line, the qb position doesnt even matter. The O-Line is the most important issue simply because of the running game. we were the worst rushing team in the acc last season, and that is why we had a losing record in the acc
DC Nolesfan 08/10/07
Remember boys...

4 Star DE Keith Wells

Will be announcing today at 1:00pm. He's down to three - FSU, Florida, Auburn

Rumor has it that yesterday at his HS practice he had on a Bobby Bowden Camp Tshirt!
ChadNole 08/10/07
I think its which QB will step up. Drew Weatherford or Xavier Lee both have talent but neither of them has really proven anything to me.
I don't think we will have to worry about how the offensive staff will gel or if Antone can carry the load, he is perfectly capable. And as far as responding to adversity...have you heard their motto for this year "Bad to the Bone". A little dumb IMO, but as long as it fits them, I'm cool with it.

The biggest question marks are the first two. Who will step up at QB and how the OLine will do. From everything I have read, Trickett has the OLine much better already! Zone Blocking baby.
ChadNole 08/09/07
haha! Yeah I heard about that, all that does is give this team more M-O for 11/24!
ChadNole 08/08/07
Whoops...gotta have the whole link....

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/
2007/football/ncaa/08/06/
fsu.trophies.ap/index.html
rbm921* 08/08/07
A must-see, here. Serves that **** right.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/ncaa/08/06/fsu.trophies.ap/index.html
rbm921* 08/08/07
4 Star DE Keith Wells

Will be announcing Friday! FSU is in his final 3!
ChadNole 08/08/07
i should correct myself and say for the past 12 or so years we have had a horrible secondary. deon and tbuck were great
DC Nolesfan 08/08/07
ADDING A DB COACH IS THE BEST MOVE FOR OUR DEFENSE IN 20 YEARS!!! That was Mikki Andrews' only downfall is that our secondary has always sucked and he is the secondary coach. Ive always thought he should bring in a DB coach and just be the coordinator. If we would have had a good secondary we would have 5 or 6 National Championships. Watch out folks this keeps getting better!!!
DC Nolesfan 08/08/07
Did you read the other day that Terry Bowden is gonna be an "unpaid observer" of the FSU team? So he will pretty much be a stooge that chills at practice, but he might be able to talk his dad out of doing something stupid, also keeping him out of the scheme and allowing the real coaches to do their thing
DC Nolesfan 08/08/07
After the bad news....I have great news!

TBuck has been added to the coaching staff as the DB coach!!!! Can it really get any better?

http://floridastate.scout.com/2/665658.html
ChadNole 08/07/07
According to some rumors floating around, Matt Hardrick has been released from the team.

It has not been announced yet, but when it is, I will update you all.
ChadNole 08/07/07
I'm more concerned with Julio Jones. I would rather have him any day of the week and twice on Sundays. He'll probably be a NSD guy though.
ChadNole 08/07/07
damnit......hard to compete with USC's success. In a few years we will be back and will be stealing recruits, but for now you can't blame the kid for going there
DC Nolesfan 08/06/07
Commits rather...
ChadNole 08/06/07
5 Star WR Brice Butler

Signed with USC
http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/video.asp?section=fbrecruit&vidtype=amp&vidid=2740
ChadNole 08/06/07
Thanks!
ChadNole 08/02/07
ChadNole great work with all of the recruiting news
NEW FSU COMMIT

3 Star DE Toshmon Stevens
http://floridastate.scout.com/a.z?s=16&p=8&c=1&nid=3046293
ChadNole 07/31/07
Remember:
5 Star WR Brice Butler will be announcing this Saturday. Most say it is between FSU and USC.
ChadNole 07/31/07
I think we will have that taken care off with the 2007 and 2008 recruiting classes! We got some solid players last year and it only looks better this year.
ChadNole 07/27/07
funny how tony carter is on the jim thorpe watch list but not even the preseason all acc team. he is way overated i hope everyone knows that. he did play well last year, but he gets burnt in critical situations. he's awfully small too. we need a total revamp of the secondary (except rolle, he will be a stud)
DC Nolesfan 07/27/07
3 Noles named to 2007 ACC Pre-Season Football Team. Greg Carr, Andre Fluellen and Myron Rolle.

http://www.theacc.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/072507aae.html
ChadNole 07/27/07
2 Noles named on 2007 Jim Thorpe Watch List. Tony Carter and Myron Rolle.

http://www.jimthorpeassoc.org/Awards/2007%20JTAWatchList.html
ChadNole 07/27/07
I think its the game @ Va Tech. Blacksburg is always tough.
I had to go Va. Tech. They are going to have a solid squad and the game is @ VT. Will be a tougher game than UF.
ChadNole 07/25/07
i am going with the miami game. i think both teams have something to prove this year.
eharrisct85 07/25/07
Dumbass me left Miami off, so you're going to have to vote again.
ChadNole 07/24/07
i vote for va tech simply because we always compete with UF no matter what our records are. we know how to play in the swamp. although we have beat VT 12 times in a row (count em), blacksburg is gonna be awfully tough this year
DC Nolesfan 07/24/07
Expect a new commit for FSU sometime in the near future!
ChadNole 07/24/07
hunter you are in the wrong place. what possessed you to even same something like that? go noles.
eharrisct85 07/24/07
GO NOLES! I'm looking forward to a better year and hopefully better O-Line play from the Noles this year
SouthSideHitMan 07/23/07
Hunter....clearly you are ignorant to the relationship FSU has with the Seminole people of Florida. I suggest you do your research before commenting on things in which you know nothing about. Feel free to come back anytime and we will gladly embarrass you again.
ChadNole 07/23/07
if you think anything about FSU is racist you are ignorant and misinformed. the seminole indians are honored with FSU using them as their mascot and support it 100%. so what is the problem if they indeed support it and consider it an honor? i have talked to real seminole indians tailgating at games in miami and they are like, "we are straight out the everglades dude, and we love this ****". so get over it. other teams may insult certain tribes, but the seminoles support FSU
DC Nolesfan 07/23/07
???You will once again, Fear The Spear!??? is the most racist thing in sports along w/the tomohawk thing the chiefs braves and ofcousre the seminols do.
$Hunter$ 07/23/07
FYI folks...

If you go to the main groups page, you'll notice that we made the list for "Most Active Groups". Let's keep this going and show FanNation that we are the best group! I have yet to see another group giving the type of information and insight that this group gives. There are also many other things to come!
ChadNole 07/23/07
Welcome Badger!
ChadNole 07/22/07
hey people
Come on folks, let get this place jumpin'!
ChadNole 07/22/07
Also, Brice's father played at FSU.
ChadNole 07/19/07
5* WR Brice Butler set to announce on Saturday August 4th per ESPN. It is believed that he will either commit to USC or FSU even though he doesn't list any favorites.
ChadNole 07/19/07
Nice job on the recruiting updates and Jersey # changes, Chad.
rbm921* 07/16/07
Soon as in a few weeks I think
ChadNole 07/16/07
hell yeah ive been following recruiting. we always work late, this is the first year we have signed so many players this early! looks like we are in for a hell of a class
DC Nolesfan 07/16/07
Have you all been following recruiting lately?
ChadNole 07/12/07
....and, JAubin, if you're not a Gator fan, you know it's "you're" and not "YOUR". Go back to your own board.
rbm921* 06/28/07
If your not a gator fan, then your gator bait
JAubin 06/24/07
Miami, Florida "Miami U" Miami, Miami, Miami, Hurricanes Drive, Drive, you Hurricanes Keep right on goin, up that scorin' Miami, Miami, Miami, Hurricanes Drive on over the goal and on to victory. M-I-A-M-I, M-I-A-M-I, fight,fight,fight.
Z3US 06/17/07
Guys, we all need to go vote in this one:

http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/15510

go 'Noles!
rbm921* 06/14/07
Right now there is a Bowden vs Joe Pa battle going on at
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/8913.
steve80984 05/17/07
SCALP UM NOLES
Chrisinfinger 05/15/07
We all need to go comment and vote on the following throwdown (not one of mine, but an FSU one nonetheless):

http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/7212

--Rob (FSU, class of '92)
rbm921* 05/15/07
No, trade Iverson for Mike Bibby. His shot selection and constant dribbling in the playoffs where why we lost. Melo is the only one out of the Big Three, who has constantly had trouble with people not beleiving it is his team. Melo is a great player and Iverson took shot away from him in the Playoffs.Imagine Bibby, Smith,Melo,Nene,Camby and tell me who can beat us. When we were at our best, Iverson averaged 7 assist. He became a 6 foot 2-guard again in the playoffs. We dont need that, Melo is the guy and if the Nuggets dont get that, ship him to Carolina and we will!
Kwame 05/03/07

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