That's a good call buck i girl. I chose Michigan/Utah..it'll be a decent measuring stick for $Rod to see where that offense is heading into Notre Dame. But, I was going to choose Mizzou vs Illinois.
Ohio State/Youngstown State. Do NOT get me started, especially since I'm stuck going to that game... AGAIN...
I chose Illinois/Missouri because I think it will help determine whether Missouri is a true contender or just a pretender... and it'll be interesting to see if last season was a real deal or fluke for Illinois...
yes prove it. badgerfan is now in charge. any questions, need anything to all of you, hit me up at ace61292@hotmail.com.
thanks.
Did we hand the reigns of the Big 10 Football group over to that pesky Badger?
So... who is in charge here now anyway?
dam i miss football, the season just cant come soon enough
guys...i know i said i'm leaving fannation. but this group i will still keep tabs on. believe me. don't be so quick to forget about me yet.
Welcome aboard scarletbuckeye....good college football blogs I look forward to more of your blogs. Yay us being among the most active. And lastly congrats buck i girl
BIG TEN IS A FREAKIN JOKE
Recognition - may not last long, but Big 10 Football listed as among the most active groups.
Recognition - Buck-I-Girl listed as MS June (no, not that type of MS June)
http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/200938
Geeze - AE got beat up all the time back then - Holly Cow - what did you do to get banned?
(just kidding - I remember the whole joke gone bad...)
I wonder where Anthony is..hasn't really been around lately. I'll try to unban Wallace
Soooooo... Anthony... any chance you'll un-ban Wallace so he can play with us?
I was banned by Anthony from the group. And it was more of a long hiatus.
And why isn't Wallace allowed to play with us?
I thought you quit the group, then quit fan nation (lol)?
I assume you are still a fan of TSUN?
This looks like a good group. Too bad I can't be in it.
That is a mighty fine summary Prove It..and good to have you back buck i girl
Ahhh... the smell of football in the air... must mean that buck-i-girl is back to crash the boys' party again...
:)
Lets see...
1. We have 3 new members.
2. Badger is no longer a homer.
3. xxx84xxx is having flashbacks to the 90s (though I guess that isn't necessarily new)
4. Michigan (or at least RR) is willing in the group's poll (a win is a win)
5. I got to drop a "Civil War - Grant - Sherman" comment in an SEC blog
6. badger and I are taking the 1st step towards turning this into a betting parlor.
Care to take a stab at the side wager, Birthday boy?
wow all this went on without me!!!//
Did you see? The woosies are scared of our picks! Dey know who has the know how!
Actually I am laughing at the 300 views in 2 days. Great - the most views of any blog I ever made came from the 1 I wrote in 10 minutes
Crap! I'm not a homer anymore
You had a 2nd chance and still put Wisconsin 2nd...
No more homer status for you.
I kinda expected him to be near the top of the poll when I put his name down. I agree that his expectations are incredibly low but people are looking forward to seeing the "new" Michigan offense
I can't believe RR is "Winning" the poll.
Could his expectations be any lower?
He could go 4-8 and everyone would claim he only needs more time.
Sure, the chic gets the tickets and the middle age man gets left home...
On 2nd thought, can't blame you for that 1. As SteveO would say, go get some...
Lol well, if it makes you feel any better I have a Buckeye fan friend..and she got a ticket and is going with me and some other friends
No extra tickets? Back to pesky Badger status for you...
I put a new poll....I hope you like I hope it creates at least a little debate
Sadly I do not Prove It....
...and will someone put up a poll... I am out of ideas (in April I was blogging about the games in late August for crying out loud...)
badger - di i evver tell you what a great guy you are, how much I appreciate your insight andd intelligence... got an extra ticket?
I got Wisconsin-Ohio State game tickets!! I'm already pumped up for the game!
"AE- will be back May 11! "
No supervision!
Cry havoc - my evil mind is already at work...
I'm not really sure.With Thomas leaving,its gonna be hard.
Fitz - we expect your Spartans to have a good year - can they deliver?
Guess whos back..............LARRYFITZ!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spring Football in Alaska starts in.... May.
UW spring game is on Saturday I'm pretty excited
Sparty gets the cover! MSU gets their 1st award of the year! (Sparty Spartan?)
http://www.uwire.com/2008/03/21/michigan-state-mascot-voted-for-cover-of-ea-sports-college-football-game/
POLL RESULTS
It was a route for Michigan State being the pleasant surprise in 08, though I guess if everyone thinks they will be a surprise, then they won't be much of a surprise (guess I should've thought that out more).
The hoosiers also picked up an optomistic vote.
A couple of goofs also gave Iowa a couple of votes (oh, wait, 1 of those were mine).
What do you mean I changed my name?
Was there some other imposter?
guys just so you know.. Prove It has changed his name to Anthony E see it doesn't have a period like me...Anthony E.??? so be careful and don't get confused!
Yes, I am Anthony E Yes, you are Anthony E.
...you gotta watch your Ps and Qs... or in this case periods...
I dont know about a landside..I think Purdue could do some work this year...maybe not top 4...but I think they could improve on their standings a bit
I left out Minnesota because I thought they were too easy a pick (I can see them above .500 in 2 years)
Is th poll a landslide? Something hosed up - i can't get to results. If it is a landslide, will zap it.
yes they did! but it wont help
Didn't Minnesota land an incredibly good recruiting class?
*cough* Minnesota *cough*
I went Michigan State as well.
My 2nd choice would have been Iowa.
I don't see it as a stretch for either to be in the top half, not a HUGE stretch to be in the top 4.
I chose Michigan State..just because I think they showed the most signs of being good...but they did lose their big running back(I forget his name, if someone knows it..fill me in please) but I still think they'll be good
thx for the poll prove it!
Wow - didn't realize I could create a poll (feel free to zap it if you have a better question). I left off the top from last year (not as much room for improvement) and Minnesota (too easy a pick)
NO!!!!! of course not, i dont care what they say!! PSU IS GOING TO WIN IT ALL!!!
...and how aboutr a new poll... lets say...
Who will finish 3rd next year?
Anthony - you gonna let him jump your Nittany Gophers like that?
...I mean lions - though the pic still looks like a Gopher to me...
I never thought about Pryor going to Wisconsin... I keep forgetting about the Badgers...
...third!
I really thought Pryor was coming to Wisconsin...crap
Now then, I want an apology from all the mindless Penn State homers who said there was no way in hell Pryor is going anywhere other than Happy Valley.
...might be the most anti-climatic story of the year...
Guess I gotta update my blogs...
The most valuable part of signing him - Michigan didn't as RR sruggles to find a viable backup.
Well Pryor is going to Ohio State....and Rich Rodriguez starts crying uncontrollably
You're both wrong - he's headed to Penn State
(Ow, Oh - I think I just dislocated a rib from laughing so hard)
Nope, he's gonna come to Ann Arbor!
I was robbed! A travesty I say.
Once upon a time I had my perfect 0-6 record.
I went back to forefit a TD i was winning to keep my record when I found I was now loosing by 5 based on a dozen votes posted in the last hour. No need to forefit. I checked and the guy got all the people on his friends list to vote in the last hour.
Few months later it turned into a tie. I just assumed some people quit, got the boot, or they were bogus acounts.
Now it's a win? The dude changed his name to Moderator Target at the same time 3 more votes disappeared (guess we know why he was targeted) and my record is ruined.
Now I am stuck with a win on my record I can never erase.
whoa!! didnt see that one coming
breaking news, and I know this will be a shock to you all Little Animal of OSU has been named to the Lombardi watch list!
April 19th-- Spring Game.
Might have the snow cleared off the field by then... I love Ohio...
PSU all the way baby... to 2
Is Wisconsin really in the Big 10? I alwys forget about them.
I do have Wisconsin as a solid 3rd.
Darn you Prove It!! Wisconsin will surprise some people this year...watch out Travis Beckum is going to tear some defenses apart.
PSU All the way!!! I MEAN IT!!
So is this Penn State's year to return?
I have them picked as 2nd in the Big 10 football this year, Wisconsin as 3rd
(because, well, I just always pick Wisconsin as 3rd...)
Spring Football starts up in a few weeks..pretty exciting times
buck-i girl...its a lot worse then what the cover of the book shows!
I go on vacation to Oregon...but I have family in Seattle, and we decided to meet in Portland...
I don't think any school is really out of the pic yet...
Who goes on vacation to Oregon? Oregon is probably a great state but I've never heard any of my friends or relatives say, "I sure could use a vacation in Oregon"
The more I think about it Oregon is a legit contender for him
I wouldn't be surprised to see Pryor go to Michigan.
I would be surprised to see him go to Penn State.
The rest of the visits were just vacations.
Its true this is a pretty awesome group
you guys are the greatest! this group is AWESOME! sorry i've been having some medical trouble lately but i'm feeling better and i should be back up and running!
Steveo--
From a recent visitor's perspective, there are so many other benefits to living in Hawai'i... I think I'd be willing to make that sacrifice... :)
I'd be surprised if he went anywhere else
We should be getting Terrelle Pryor.
try watching games in Hawaii...i got up at 6 am sometimes to watch my bears play...and it wasn't even worth it most weeks!!!
@#$^&%&^%!!!!! Big Ten Network... @#$^&%&!!!!
Not that I'm bitter or anything...
:)
My home computer bit the dust, so the only time I can post is when I'm elsewhere...
where the hell did steveo go?
True....I wasn't really considering any other time zone but the one I live in(central)
Speak for yourself. There's a 4 hour time difference between Alaska and eastern time zone.
I was getting up at 7AM to catch some of the bowl games...
Interesting poll question..honestly it doesnt matter when the Badgers game is on as long as we win
never mind steveo. read the new post.
I've had other various things that have needed my attention
wheres everyone in this group been?
I am ready for signing day..it's time to see who's going to be dominating for the Badgers in the near future
Wait for the movie? You get the privledge of see the attack every year...
I wanna see that horror movie "Attack of the Mutated Nut" what a crappy movie that would be
You have it backwards.
Brutus started out an average Joe until he was exposed to gamma radiation, at which time his head became a giant Buckeye.
...and you're right. Those old mascots were extremely disturbing looking...
Lol I've seen pics of the old Bucky Badger from like the 1940's and its pretty scary. There's one that's post Pearl Harbor and Bucky is dressed like he's in the Navy its kinda disturbing and in that picture for some reason he's walking on a rope..I don't get why
You should see EARLY versions of Brutus-- you think he's disturbing now?? Nothing compared to before... and we grew him in a top secret lab under the B&Z Building...
haha badgerfan. i didnt think the pic would spark so much controversy...but htats good. its the only thing keeping this group active since the tourney keeps ending in a tie.....
I've always wondered about the Ohio State mascot. Why hasn't anyone ever asked how in the world a nut grew legs and arms? It would seem to me that figuring that out should be priority number one for people..just a thought
Of course its a scarf. The Nittany gopher would definitely wear a scarf...
...or is it Chewbacca's ammo belt?
...whatever it is would you put some pants on your mascots for crying out loud...
...and I certainly hope the Spartan isn't going commando...
I think its the Nittany Lion..and why the hell is Bucky Badger running next to Purdue's mascot whatever it is...Purdue's mascot is no where near the level of Bucky Badger
the SCARF PEOPLE THE SCARF!
Maybe its the Nittany Gopher...
ahh so it is the gopher!!!
Wait, I am an OSU fan and I noticed it.
That Proves Its not related to Penn State in any way.
I am leaning towards the Gopher.
I thought the Nittany Lion mascot was white.
I still think it is Chewbacca.
so its the golden gopher????
hahaha
Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year
Who was the Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year?
* Dan Connor 42%
* V. Gholston 14%
* J. Lehman 7%
* James Laurinaitis 35%
The poll results...which just told us the obvious...that DAN CONNOR WAS THE BEST DEFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE BIG TEN THIS YEAR! yeah so those are the results...
The mascot on the far left IF the Nitanny Lion from Penn State.I know just about all the mascots.
dont you see the blue and white scarf? morons hhaha. and the topic? is it a gopher or nittany Lion? no really you pick.
im standing by the golden gopher...and ok lets pic another topic...
and steveo we are doing this the right way, which means we are having another td.
you morons its the PSU NITTANY LION!!!
hahahaha
i think its the golden gopher....
I am checking ot the new PIC. Who's mascot is that on the far left? Is that Chewbacca?
yeah i really dont care, if you wanna start another one we can...if not just go ahead and challenge esco...
buck i girl...i thought you were going to re read and vote...you were the deciding factor!!!! ahhhh
just messing with you...well anthony i do believe we have another tie...and with that said you can just move on to the final round...
vote people http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/110380
I'd vote for Jonathan Casillas...he's the real defensive player
yes we all aware it was connor. and you should ALL be aware of steveo and I's td for the tourney!
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/110380
Don't worry Steveo, we do all know that it was Dan Connor.
well as long as everyone knows who the REAL defensive player of the year for the big ten was...were good.
C'mon - you're splittin the Buckeye Vote (all 4 of us)
Easy choice on the new poll.
LOL - Who is this Wallace dude?
Was he ever in this group?
If he was, why did he leave?
Travis Beckum..thank you for staying!!!!
Little Animal is staying!!! We're only losing Gholston!!
MWAH-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wallace! not in this group i dont like that. you dont hate anyone. we're working to get you in.
This group is dead without my witty slogans.
I hate you all...
steveo- our topic will be biggest loss out of the players leaving early from the big ten. challenge me!
GRRRRRRR...sorry, Anthony, but I did THE WHOLE SEASON RECAP, and when I hit Submit, it went to "Internet Can't Display The Webpage". I hit refresh and a half hour of work was gone. I'll get back to this some other day.
:-(
Anthony E., my PSU recap got delayed, but I'm working on it right now.
Cool Pic by the way.
ok fine any better ideas???
No exceptions on the TD topic?
1 school has all but announced, andther is an obvious choice...
yeah but with my arguments, did i not make a better case...thats what the TD'S are about...
Agreed..college anything is better than pro anything
Steveo-- you really don't want me to vote on your latest throwdown... I think college EVERYTHING is better than pro... I'll abstain...
:)
ok let me address a couple of things...
1) our td tourney topic will be...Which Big Ten Team will be the next to have a new coach? as in who will be the first team to change coaches in the Big Ten. steveo put your argument and challenge me, then post the link here.
2)I will gladly blog that buck-i-girl, as well as put a new poll up.
3) Thx for keeping this group active. Keep it up!!!
Anthony E.
Hey someone who can blog-- how about listing all the Big Ten guys leaving early for the draft?
(Love the new pic, BTW!)
I think it'll work better as a poll and if you amend it to say "Besides your home stadium, where is one Big 10 Stadium you'd like to watch a game?"
It will kill the homer factor...
we need a new Poll.... how about big ten player of the year.....Wells, Lauranitas, Lehman, Mendenhall, Henne Hart Connor....so on and so forth??? how bout it group creators?
i dig it...just think the homers will vote but yeah i dig it...
nice. i'll take that. how about steveo?
I've got an idea for your throwdown....whats the one Big 10 stadium you'd like to watch a game at?
any ideas anthony? i been really busy lately
I love being in this group guys...
no fitzfan. this group is here to stay. cfb goes on 24/7! what we have done esco and i is start a seperate group. come join http://www.fannation.com/groups/show/30546
So after our tourney,I say we close this group and make B-Ball group.
Will this group be ONLY football, or can we make it have some basketball talk as well? If not, then I'll make the Big Ten Basketball Group and send invites to you all.
More like an eleven day celebration period. I would have cheared for anyone in the Big Ten BUT Ohio State.
we did ss. we really did.
We had national title hopes??? Oh yeah...
Mourning? Are you kidding me? Hahahah!
photoshop cheezhead. you like it?
http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/106417?new=true
wrote a blog...big ten stuff and other things
anthony hit me with some topics im kinds dead right now...
How did you get the next on the pic, or was it like that.
Yeah, I hope TSUN does good too. Except, of course on November 22...
I knew you would be a man of your word, that's why I wouldv'e changed mine the same.
Normally, I would bask in the glory of being correct over Esco. But, I feel bad for the guy, so better luck next year Buckeyes.
But I am a man of my word, so there.
FACK! I DID FORGET ABOUT THAT!
Thanks Esco. Still waiting on your name and picture change...
You didn't forget our deal, did you?
Hey! Let's make the group private and have message boards dissing Wallace!
Who is this Wallace guy... I son't see him in the membership list.
What the frell was that?
This will be a chock to all of Fan Nation... Prove It is speechless...
...but not blogless...
Anyhow, cleaning up my stuff, will hang out until the TD tourney is over, than I am outta here unti nxt season
GL all!
where's the "way to **** it up ohio st" logo for our group???
It was actually bitter sweet for me.I live in Louisiana,and I was actaully pullin for both teams.Congrats to the LSU Tigers!Natioal Champs Baby!
Hahahahahahah!
How bout those Bayou Bengals!
ok Krobe well you keep working on that. anthony you fool.
We have a situation here. Wallace is not in the group and I can't change his permissions. Still working on this.
Moderator
He can't change it.... hmmmm....
How about "Wallace Loves his Buckeyes!"
wallace i cant make you a creator until you are back in
Haha. I can still follow closely.
Damnit Anthony, make a a Creator again so I can change the motto before the game!
he's still not in...but he can still comment.
lol - I would like to know how wallace got back in the group...
This group cannot live without my mottos! Hahaha.
dont wrry he will be back! geez make me feel bad. it was a joke.
Wallace was gone? I had no clue.
it was a joke gone bad. i was talking to him, and he changed the motto. i being a complete idiot banned him thinking i could easily put him back. apparently not. but dont worry krobe is taking care of everything. i apologize sincerely.
Why did Wallace get kicked out?
I like how I got kicked outta the group, haha.
umm busy at work today....military's getting there moneys worth out of me today...but i think of one and hopefuly have you challenged by 2 my time in hawaii
Joking...
SteveO - Challenge saying Penn State will finish in the top 2 of the Big 10 in 2008
Serious...
C'mon - do the nine conference games vs. conference title game
(That'll get a lot of buzz to end the season)
Very funny Prove It. But I can't do argue against PSU. I think I might piss my pants.
I propose any topic that has AE arguing against Penn State or
Steveo arguing against Illinois
AGAIN
Wallace, I understand. That's OK, Michigan has contributed more than enough to OSU so far this millenium
Bull ****. I ain't rooting for OSU!
so steveo we need another topic? what are you up for?
ok theres a tie in the TD between me and Anthony...
LOL,I didn't even notice that!
Hahahahaha.
I love our Mottos.
no im not questioning you ranhood. dang dleech you puttin words in my mouth. im just asking if you hate michigan. forget this ever happened. apparently sarcasm aint taken well on here. sorry guys. dleech you are too much for me sometimes haha.
TD final possible question:
Should Bigdleech be kicked out of the group?
"i cant stand osu because they compete for pennsylvania recruits from PSU"
Is this a typo? i think what you meant to say was PSU sometimes steals an OSU recruit from Pennsylvania
"(Michigan) was a huge win for the Big ten..."
Since we always forget about Wisconin, that was probably the BIGGEST win for the Gg 10 the last 2 years... until Monday...
...and we in Ohio really value PSU...
...as a Quality win...
Thats where I got that statement Badgerfan.
I'm sensing an #SPN 360 commercial about to break out
You questioning my fanhood Anthony?
I do hate Michigan, but I cheered for them as well. I just wanted to see my boy Chad win a bowl game.
btw if you are a PSU fan why dont you hate michigan? i know i do. but i rooted for them to beat florida because i cant stand urban meyer, and that was a huge win for the Big ten.
hey dleech a couple things
1) i was joking. i cant stand osu because they compete for pennsylvania recruits from PSU.
2)you are not going anywhere you SOB haha.
3) and do you realize that if OSU gets wrecked the big ten looks TERRIBLE, as if OSU were pretenders when they beat a darned good conference. and the way illinois got blown away...yeah. OSU needs to win whether we like it or not.
I dont hate OSU as much as I did before, sadly
And if you seriously want to kick me out, I want a trial first.
Real funny Anthony. Seriously though, I don't understand how any Big Ten fans, especially Michigan fans. There is no college that I despise more than Ohio State in the country, and every one else here should feel the same way.
dleech that was a joke haha. wait no does that really say Go LSU!. it does. wrong place to put that message. the group creators will deliberate on your fate in this group.
who says we kick dleech out of the group?
i'll put a blog up and then we will take a vote.
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/100177
LarryFitz VS. Esco
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/99458
anthony e. vs. steveo.
steveo check the message board for round 2
wow sooners got waxed....
Sooners get byatch-slapped! Sweeeeet.
Enjoy your win while you still can ESCO!
Whoever changed the motto to the Illinois thing is a real jerk!
Hahaha
YES! On to round 2. Good game Cheezhead.
I apologize SteveO, I think my prediction of the Rose Bowl being close may have sealed the fate of Illinois, Musbergers complete **** kissing of USC didnt make it much better to watch at least for me
No they didnt pass at all that the thing they ran screens and the option all first half that got them NEGATIVE yds and kept doing it and doing it till finally they came out in the third throwing...
What can you say SteveO... Illinois had 12 yards more passing?
Better them than us...
Never thought i would say it this year (or any) but I thought Carr had a great game plan and Zook had a lousy one...
I was really expecting something more along the lines of Carr's "Kitchen Sink" approach...
wow i cant believe that illinois kept running and running...and still running the ball all first half....why wasn't it obvious to pass???? ILLINOIS SUCKED AND SUCKED BAD!
I would like to voice m appreciation to Arizona, Texas Tech, Missouri, Oklahoma, and Pittsburgh...
Title schmitle...
Who cares - they got the Bucks out of the cross hairs of USC...
Maaaan... I hope SteveO had a power outage...
OK, Illinois is struggling. Now it's rape.
I'm not a huge Illini fan,but I hope they represent us well.
It ain't rape if they don't put up a struggle.
Well Illinois is getting raped currently. But Michigan! the only time i ever rooted for the wolverines..
Well, Illinois is going to get raped.
My boys pulled one out for me today (in the 4th quarter, I couldn't watch any 4th downs that FLA was in cuz I was so nervous)...
How bout them wolverines!
Wisconsin you cost me $$. Come on Wolverines!
WTF?! They hold and commit a facemask on Crable at the same time and TSUN gets called for a facemask?! SERIOUSLY???!!!!
Jeez, there was some horrible horrible officiating in the Wisconsin game, and some crappy play calling, come on Paul Chryst absolutely brutal. 4th and 2, pound P.J. Hill. The defense got burned on quite a few plays...awful.
I know, and how about HART FUMBLING! 1002 TOUCHES WITHOUT FUMBLING, BUT HE FUMBLES AGAINST FLORIDA INSIDE THE 5. FUMBLE AGAINST PSU YOU MORON!!!! But GO BIG TEN, even if that means rooting for Mich...
extremely bad playcalling killed the badgers today, tennessee almost blew the game with their own stupidity down the stretch
ouch, Indiana, you cost me $$$.
I don't know SteveO - Mich St in the top 4?
They have PSU, OSU, Wisc, and UofM late (time for Rich to get things rolling)
I don't expect any of the top 5 this year to drop to 6 or lower - seeing 2 drop is a stretch.
Indiana was, well, Indiana... but was this a surprise?
They were in a 4 way tie for finishing 7-10 in the Big 10 and didn't face the Big 2.
Okie State was within a FG of beating Texas for 2nd in the Big12 south, a FG of TA&M for securing 3rd (great bowl matchup, huh?)
Still had a good year with a great story.
GL in 2009!
http://fannation.com/throwdowns/show/95240
just a TD im in if anyone wants to check it out...also with Michigan st playing a good BC team like that i think i might be seeing them among the top 4 next year....
psst - Fitz - to win TDs, next time say something really nice about Penn State - they have a couple of members here.
Nice,I really hope I win my match.
this tourney looks really good guys. 3 out of the 5 are already on the main pg taking place. we will ahve these done in no time. and winner gets upgraded to a creator, and is the automatic #1 seed in the next td tourney.
I'm gonna win the tourney!
Way to represent the Big Ten PSU!!
lets go Big Ten!!! And YAY PSU!!!
Congrats to Penn State (is there anyone here from Penn State?)
Good news: 2-1 in bowls.
Good News: Mich St almost made it 3-0
Bad News: not favored in any of the other games by the sportswriters, 1win, 2losses, and 2 toss ups in Prove It's ratings
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/94577
ok guys, got me a big ten vs big 12 TD...come vote and show your support...but vote as you see fit as always though (arguments)
Yeah pretty impressed with Michign State....they had a few opprotunities that they blew that could have been scores