Obama Watch Express

Change is in the air: Virgina has a new governor from the Grand Old Party.
Also, if Obama really wanted kids to learn more, then he shouldn't have gone on tv a month ago during the school day and encouraged school districts to take time away from Math and Science so the children can watch him talk.

In addition, America was once the leader in education. You know what subjects they taught back then? Writing, Math, Science, History, and the Arts (music, psychology, gym, etc). I have a simple solution to increase the grades: make learning a foreign language optional. Allow the high school kids to select what classes to take (with the exception of the main 4 - math, writing, science, history) rather than telling them what to take. Then, especially at high school, they can prepare themselves for their next step in life, whether it be college, the military, or a full-time job.

There is my proposal for increasing test scores in America, and look, it doesn't require an extended school day or going to school on Saturdays. If kids are interested in what they are learning, then they will stay out of trouble...simple as that.
oldpro1225 - How is the government going to pay for an extended school day in the first place? Teacher's salaries are going to have be raised, which means increasing taxes.

Secondly, everybody learns in different ways. Will an extended school day help some children? Yes, because they need to hear it from somebody to learn. What about the other children who learn better by reading on their own? An extended school day is going to do them harm.
God must love stupid people, He made so many of them. The President encouraging children to study hard, stay in school, and have aspirations to be a contributing member of American society is really a bad thing isn't it. You people are pathetic.
oldpro1225 10/09/09
Look for a new post by Columbus day.
We need better direction and soon!
Man vs. Evil 10/04/09
I guess he's TRYING to send a good message, but I believe he's just trying to become more popular with the youth of America. I don't really think the President has much influence on kids (since most don't care much about politics), so I think at the end of the day, he's just wasting class time.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/08/09
Well, just as long as he doesn't use this platform for Political Gain.. Like.. brainwashing the kids like he did the idiot masses.
HAMMERMAN 09/07/09
I'm sorry but this is crazy!!! Obama taking time from school days to preach to children???? What???? What are young children going to get out of this?? What is ANYONE going to get out of this? Good thing I don't have kids yet, they wouldn't be at school.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/07/09
The more that I think about, some children are just like Obama and the Democrats...they have no sense of the value of a dollar.
The children are the only ones that can relate to him now.Most of the rest are getting fed up with him..
bodine 09/06/09
Ok.. I give credit where credit is due.. So, I'm not sure why there is all the negativity about O~bro giving the speech to the school kids. I happen to think it's a good idea.
HAMMERMAN 09/05/09
Let's try this one more time...
Hello all!
Glad to see this group starting to pick up some! Hope everyone is doing well, and welcome to all our new members.

Please remember to keep the drama OUT of this group, as it is for political purposes only.

Thanks and God Bless.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/03/09
Well, today.. I'm going to run down to the prison and see if I can cash anyone's stimulus check for them.. The do~gooder that I am..
HAMMERMAN 08/28/09
RIP Ted Kennedy...I may not have often agreed with you, but I have always respected what you have done for this country and Massachusetts.
Well, Kelso, I would love to kick out another idiot, but he just continues to make a fool out of himself. Now, I do not wish to be involved, so I will politely ask to refrain from using this over your fanmail.

I know Kelso, but I do not know you Ready, so let me make myself clear: if I hear another word that is harassment, I will ban you Ready from the group.

Carolina created this group for political purposes, and Ready, you are not doing anything that can be considered political. So please refrain from using this thread, or actions will be taken. Thank you.
Kick me out, I knew Hammered would ask you !
So.Calgirl and JA.. You should probably toss out the latest member.. Nothing but trouble.. READYTOSTRIKEout.
HAMMERMAN 08/24/09
Let me say here that I apologize for 'READY TO STRIKE~out' has brought his retarded a^s^s here to try and get under my skin with his comments on my recent Message Board Article... Take a look and see what a real A~Hole looks like. LOL
HAMMERMAN 08/24/09
Funny how Obama compared the U.S. Post Office, UPS and FedEx to Health Care. He then says that UPS and FedEx (The private sector) gets it right and it's the US Post Office (Government Run) that's always having problems. In a round about way.. He is admitting the Govt. would screw up Health Care if put in charge.
HAMMERMAN 08/19/09
http://www.kltv.com/global/story.asp?s=10933571


Texas law requires the reading of the Bible in all public schools. This is not about religion, just another classical book such as Plato's works...after all, Atheist believe that the Bible is just filled with stories, right?
I had a dude approach me in the Kroger parking lot telling me he needed gas money.. He explained how stupid he felt for asking and how people had been treating him..I reached in my wallet and gave him a $5 bill... Did he head back to the gas pumps? No, he headed in the opposite direction. Shows me what happens when a random act of kindness turns into a free handout that's not used for it's supposed purpose. Lot's of that going around now-a-days.
HAMMERMAN 08/18/09
Let me get this right.. The Government bought out a majority of GM and Chrysler and now.. This Cash for Clunkers programs.. It seems that the Government is trying to bail themselves out from their buyout... A hole that just keeps getting deeper and deeper.
HAMMERMAN 08/17/09
I would still love to know who gave Obama a grade of A in the poll.
HAMMERTIME!
^The Phantom^ 08/06/09
I go back later this month. Can't wait for all those Obama supporters to come out and tell me I was wrong for hating him.
JA, you and C~girl will be heading back to school soon, huh?
HAMMERMAN 08/06/09
I hope Clinton didn't try to hand out any cigars on the flight home from North Korea! LOL
HAMMERMAN 08/06/09
3 of them ended up looking like idiots and the Cop was the only honest to goodness upstanding citizen there...
HAMMERMAN 08/06/09
I love the beer on the lawn...nothing but a gimmick to look good.
Racism is alive and well thanks to Obama and Gates.
Obama speaks about something he knows nothing about and multiplies the problem with his stupid 'stupidity' comment and now we are all supposed to 'Learn from this..'
That idiot is the one who needs to learn.
HAMMERMAN 07/30/09
I hope whoever game Obama an A thought that "A is for awful"
Welcome all (who would have guessed our support would grow as Obama spent time in the White House; not me) ...expect a lot more activity from myself in the near future.
HEY HEY HEY!
Fabrice Fabrice 07/25/09
Welcome to our newest members, Fabrice Fabrice, The Enforcer, and Sidney "Baby" Crosby!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 07/25/09
Farewell Gov. Palin. May God give you blessings wherever life leads you.
Been quite an eventful last couple of months...so, I can't wait to get my check for the profits seeing as how we own 60% of Government Motors.
Just stopping in to say I hope all the members of the OWE are doing well! God Bless.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 06/07/09
There were over 600 people here on the State Capital Lawn..
HAMMERMAN 04/17/09
Up here in Boston, there were marches onto Beacon Hill with signs reading, "Beware 2010"
Yeah well I actually took part in the Tea Party here in SC. Then that night I went to the FairTax rally here. Great day!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 04/16/09
Yeah, I saw CNN trying to censor everyone they interviewed.. Freakin' idiots!!
Usually, if a reporter is going to interview someone and they ask a legitimate question.. For God's sake let the person being interviewed answer.. I would've taken the mic from the bioootch and finished the interview myself.
HAMMERMAN 04/16/09
Anybody hear about the Boston Tea Parties yesterday?
Obama, what happened to that big Tax Break for those making under whatever figure you decided on this week.. $250,000, then $200,000 and the last I heard it was $150,000??? I'm paying the IRS the same amount I did last year and got taxed on the $600 check I received last year.. LOL..
Obama is so full of sh\t his eyes are even brown.
HAMMERMAN 04/14/09
I think I head an echo when I posted that comment.. LOL
HAMMERMAN 04/13/09
New Article posted......
HAMMERMAN 04/12/09
So the Prez goes to England,gives the Queen an i pod {pre loaded with rap music},I will presume.When will the liberals believe that this guy has no clue, as to foreign policy.The woman is in her 80s .She doesn't have a clue on the Ipod..And I'm still wondering what gift he returned to them, like the Churchill bust they gave us on 9/11...Oh well maybe they will keep him over there,and end our embarrassment.of his conduct
bodine 04/01/09
Gotta agree with JAubin here. I had contemplated doing a blog breaking down the ridiculous spending spree Obama has been on but what's the point if nobody comes here to read it?
C-C-C 04/01/09
FLETCH346's F-22 Article above made on FEB 27th.... TAKE NOTE:

I made these comments back on FEB 27th.. Now, a little over a month later the Taliban warns of an impending attack in Washington, DC... target~~~White House.

Maybe Ol Fletch knows what he's talking about... Remember his 4 & 7 predictions.....
HAMMERMAN 04/01/09
Wow, this group has lost it's luster. Nobody comes on here anymore to do much of anything. I check daily, and nothing changes...oh well. Hopefully this group will pick up once the midterm elections come around in about 18 months.
Upon further thought on this this matter.. I reluctantly have to remove myself....
Being chastised for, doing nothing more than, looking out for the group just doesn't set right with me... Good luck....
HAMMERMAN 03/24/09
He's not part of the group.. And, I had him banned from FN.. He and others, who aren't part of the group, have always been allowed to comment because the Group is Public.
It's over with here.. I'm looking to take it to my city's Cyber Crime Task Force...
HAMMERMAN 03/21/09
No. DC or whoever this person is, is obviously disturbed and I will have him banned from the group someway. If ya'll want to continue ya'lls drama with him, fine. But do it somewhere out of this group. Thank you for making us aware of the situation, but let's move on.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 03/21/09
Obama stuck his foot in his mouth on Leno, I see... Leno asked about O~man's bowling skills he compared his inept bowling skills 'to the Special Olympics or something...'

Smooth move Obama.... You must not have had a teleprompter on Leno..
HAMMERMAN 03/21/09
C~Girl, I was only making everyone aware of what this group is being accused of... Albeit it is 'Drama' but I take offense, as should you.
HAMMERMAN 03/20/09
Carolina are you saying, that you are going to allow some racist to dictate.How we respond to his comments.Don't think that is really fair to all concerned...
bodine 03/20/09
I am not kidding:
If ya'll continue with all of this drama, I will ban anyone involved. Enough is enough.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 03/20/09
Thanks JA!! Much appreciated Bro!!
HAMMERMAN 03/20/09
New poll everybody.

By the way, a happy birthday to Hammer
Just another example of him trying to stir up trouble. He should give it a rest and move on, because a lot of others have already done that.
Red Zone 03/19/09
RZ, the only one who has ever mentioned it is DC...
HAMMERMAN 03/19/09
Since when has anyone in this group spoke about assassainating the president? If someone did, I would report it the authorities and seriously consider leaving the group.
Red Zone 03/19/09
HERE IS WHAT DC IS SAYING ON HIS ESPN WEBSITE:

Fletch, along with his cohort in crime Wahoo1, would co-create a hate group on FN devoted to spreading lies, innuendo, half-truths and other slander about our new President (who was a candidate at the time), labeled the ???Stop Obama Express???. Since the election, the name has been changed to ???Obama Watch Express??????but the message is still the same: the potential assasination of the President.

How's that for Harrassment and Slander? Not to mention lies.
HAMMERMAN 03/19/09
INTERESTING NOTE:
How can someone say that FLETCH346 is the leader of this group when he joined over 2 months after it's creation? FLETCH346 might have been an active participant in the discussions but he's far from the 'Leader' of this group.... C~Girl and JA have those honors....
HAMMERMAN 03/19/09
Crap!! I'm signing up for the 'Freedom Cruise'!! LOL
HAMMERMAN 03/18/09
FYI, The individual known as DC SPORTSNUT has been officially banned from FanNation for releasing personal information about that very legend...
Rest assured I'm sure he's using a dupe but.. Just think of all those lost senseless BLOGs he toiled over..
What comes around.. goes around...
HAMMERMAN 03/17/09
Yes, Fletch is a legend. lol
Red Zone 03/17/09
Why, thank you, JA.. I truely appreciate it... Where's that FLETCH346 guy.. He's a legend here on FanNation.. LOL
HAMMERMAN 03/16/09
Welcome to our 64th memeber, WILD and NAZZZZZTY346
FLETCH346 ~~~~~ RIP

LMAO!!!!
Confucious say... he who laughs last... well, has last laugh.
HAMMERMAN 03/16/09
You Liberals are so sensitive but it doesn't surprise me that you would run to the MODs and cry... always wanting someone else to take care of you instead of you taking care of yourself.
FLETCH346 03/15/09
LMAO!!! A comment was deleted that I made over a month ago.
"JA, you did fine brother.. DC is the exception to the norm.. As you know.. he's not all there and borders retardism.. You have to overlook him and move on.. I keep him on a short leash so not to get too out of hand.. D.C. , you know EXACTLY what I mean.. I even drove by that little pocket of apartments that you live in .. not too long ago. JA, I agree with the extravagant parties and such.. What's there to party about? Big freakin' deal !!! He's a human being who got elected President.. Everyone who sees 'Color' and 'The First African~American' President are the rascis**ts. I see him as a man.. Not of color but one that won a Presidential Election and is now been chosen to lead this country..The color of his skin doesn't mean crap and it won't mean crap to other world leaders.. Not as much as his religion and faith will......" Someone please tell me what is so offensive about that? It pales in comparison to being called a N^a^zi, a Racis^t, a biggot or H!tler... You 3 **** who are involved... have at it.. D N W
FLETCH346 03/15/09
Hmmmm, maybe not 'Sports Nut'.. I'd say more like, 'Sports Fruit n Nuts'.
FLETCH346 03/14/09
Well, if it ain't my Road Trippin Buddy Tom Foolery!!!!
Check it out.. Me and my buddy Tom did a little dry run to DC's little Luray Villa and left him a small token from our REAL NASCAR FANS Group.... We saw him sitting in his boxers and wife beater one hand in a bag of cheetos and the other trying to make sensible comments on FanNation!!!
DC, next time we'll ring your bell.
FLETCH346 03/13/09
We all know what a billion means
I guess a TRILLON means Old Abe Lincoln,is scratching his arse saying what the freck have i done
bodine 03/11/09
As we say in the military....'Obama is fuuucking up by the numbers...' Geeesh, 'Now, I promise, this is the last bill I sign with earmarks (8,000) and then I'll never do it again...' LMAO!!!!
IN AMERICA.. YOU GET WHAT YA GOT CUZ IT'S WHAT YOU WANTED...
In my Defense.. It's NOT what I wanted.
FLETCH346 03/11/09
Nope, I had to make the difficult choice of Nancy Pelosi.
Is there anyway, that i can tak. ALL THE ABOVE on this weeks question
bodine 03/10/09
hahahah. 86 degrees here today.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 03/09/09
Another 8 inches of snow today, but we had classes because up north, we are hardcore.
I ended up with about 18 inches...had school today, none yesterday.
Thanks Carolina Girl! :-)
ATLfan15 03/03/09
They forecasted 3-5 inches, and we got zero. Still, the city shut down!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 03/03/09
Welcome to our 63rd member, ATLfan15!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 03/03/09
Deja Bill.....pretty funny.....enjoy!

http://www.citizenlink.org/videofeatures/A000009289.cfm?utm_id=emailafriend&utm_campaign=1
ATLfan15 03/03/09
Pretty ironic that tonight's special 2 Hr. episode of '24' is a cell of African Terrorists that's targeting the White House.
FLETCH346 03/02/09
Hence, why your BoSox head south for Spring Training. LOL
FLETCH346 03/02/09
14 inches and counting...but school tomorrow most likely cause we up here in new england know how to deal with a little nor'easter
Thanks to Carolina Girl for the group invite! :-)
ATLfan15 03/02/09
Wow. Classes are canceled here if they call for a dusting. (Which here is like only a little bit on cars, nothing on the ground that stays longer than 5 mins.)
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 03/01/09
Bah; come up to New England. I've been under a winter storm warning for the past month. Classes only get canceled if I-93 becomes inaccessible.
Our city is completely shutting down for this! We have "Winter Storm Warnings" and everything.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 03/01/09
3-5 inches is called a dusting up here.
18-24 inches of snow for Manchester tonight ~ tomorrow.
3-5 inches of snow tonight in COLUMBIA, SC! Yes, COLUMBIA, SC.

WOOT WOOT!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 03/01/09
This kind of funny but at the same time it isn't... But, my little sister was so PRO~Obama that it wasn't funny.. I think she gave me more crap than I actually gave her.. She had fallen into that Obama is gonna save us all cuz he says so hypnotic mentality.. Well, she lost her job last week..
So, I had to call her and ask her.. 'Obama, how's that workin' for ya now?' Mean, sad but true.
FLETCH346 02/28/09
Funny, most who dropped out of high school voted for Obama
JA, you probably haven't heard from DC because.. I seriously doubt they hav WiFii in the Psych Ward..
FLETCH346 02/24/09
Obama says, 'You give up High School then you're giving up on your Country...' I wish he'd gone a little further and mentioned the majority of the demographics who are dropouts and doing this to their country..
FLETCH346 02/24/09
And, the term pu$s$sy is just another word for Liberal.
FLETCH346 02/24/09
Honestly, I get tired of posting and reposting sh\t just to have it DELETED by the pu$s$sies who are on this site and run this site.
FLETCH346 02/24/09
The only reason the group is down is because everything that we said would happen either has or is happening now. This means that DC, Pitt, and all the other ****e$ (still love using the pun) are afraid to come here to face the truth.
This group has gone downhill since the election ended. Guess we have to wait 4 more years for it to start back up.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 02/23/09
Dear CNN,

Nuts.
Another fukcing BLOG deleted.. Nice!
FLETCH346 02/23/09
Would like to welcome our 63rd member, S-H-A-Q-T-A-S-T-I-C!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 02/20/09
Let's see how many people get this:

Dear Mr. Obama,

Nuts.
JA, do either you or C~girl have a Facebook account?
FLETCH346 02/16/09
JA, you didn't offend me.. I was just curious.. And, as for the Liberal Attacks.. Those fools don't bother me.. I'm above that bullsh\t that they try to deal.. I look at it this way.. These people like to be all big and bad while sitting behind their keyboards.. But, I gaurantee you that if they met me face to face.. Not a negative word would be uttered in my presence. That's what you call a Pu$ $y... And, I don't let Pu$ $ies bother me..
FLETCH346 02/16/09
I would still like to know who voted yes on that poll, seeing as how none of us three have even done an illegal substance.
I would never do drugs. My friends were at the party here where Michael Phelps was smoking though.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 02/16/09
After all the dealings that you went through these past few months with all of the personal attacks, I have no clue on how you dealt with it. Also, seeing as how only us three participate in this group regularly, I suspect Carolina less than you. Like I said, no offense to you down below. I'm sorry if I offended you in anyway.
JA, what about me would make you think that I would smoke dope?
FLETCH346 02/14/09
As I stated last week, another Republican "bailout", pun is intended again, so the Democrats don't screw up the country even more than they have in these past 3 weeks
20 billion going to home buyers is a sh\tpotfull better than 20 million for Honeybee Insurance.
FLETCH346 02/10/09
JA, #1, I do not partake in the Ganja, not my style. In my book a drug abuser is a loser.
#2, Legal or not ... I get tested randomly (randomly more than anyone else, it seems) so it's always illegal for me, no matter where I'm at......
Steveo, were you on a 'bender' when you wrote that comment?
FLETCH346 02/10/09
Also, just let me say that Palestine continued to launch more rockets into Israel today.
Wow, who has? No offense to Fletch, but I could see him doing it in a foreign country were it is not illegal.
who has smoked an illegal substance?!?
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 02/08/09
NEW POLL in light of Michael Phelps smoking pot at my college
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 02/06/09
Well Steveo, it's been a while since I've heard from you; needed a Republican bailout (pun intended) of the Democrats to make it sound like the Dems are doing something right?
Funny yo mention that flect....becasue i think its the REPs who ust added 20 billion to the stimulus for $15,000 dollar checks to give to home buyers to pay for home purchses.....
While Obama may have a lot of sway in the national Democrat party, the opposite is true with the New Hampshire Democrat party. He is pressuring the NH Dems to allow a republican to be installed into the soon-to-be-vacated senate seat due to his soon-to-be appointee for the secretary of commerce; however, it does not look good because the NH Dems want that seat to be a Dem. Also, I have heard that several Dem Senators also want that seat to be a Dem (or at the very least an independent) so that they can have total control of the Senate.
Let's see..... It's 2 FEB and I'm wondering how many idiot Liberals out there are wondering why Obama hasn't paid their Febuary Mortgage payment yet......
LMAO!!!
FLETCH346 02/02/09
So much for the peace fire the Palestinians wanted so much.
Very quiet from the lefties since Obama took office...honeymoon over already? When is he going to stop fighting with Congress?
Amen, RZ... All these people saying, 'Get on board' or calling us
'Biggots or Racists'...
For one, are nothing but the biggest biggots and rascist there are when it's not about the color of the man's skin, WHICH THEY CHOOSE TO MAKE AN ISSUE, but of his ideas and policies.
And, I'll happily get onboard when he does something that I agree with....
So, BACK the guy who is in the driver's seat? No, not when he's driving us off a cliff, I won't back him...
FLETCH346 01/24/09
So tell me, you always backed former President Bush no matter what he did, all the while never hating his policies?

I love this, these are the same people who wanted to impeach Bush for doing nothing wrong, and now they come here preaching to respect and follow the new president, no matter what.
For me, it's not a matter of disliking the man. It's a matter of disliking his policies
Red Zone 01/24/09
If you strongly dislike Democrats and Obama, this is your place.

You know, It is time to give up hating who/what is the leader of our Country. and time to BACK who is in the drivers seat. That is what being a Great American is! Jay
-Mr. FLOAT- 01/24/09
Well, that is one of the reasons why the White House moved Fox News out of the front row and towards the side, well out of view.
How in the heck did this Gibbs land the White House Press Secretary job? Here's is the majority of his speaking...'Uh...and... uh... outline in principles.. uh... we move forward...uh....Uhmmmm...' I can't tell but.. I think his hands are in his pockets!!!
FLETCH346 01/23/09
Maybe Jack Bauer should be the one in charge of transporting those terrorits.
Red Zone 01/22/09
Most of the southern states would probably take them out for trespassing on their property.
HAHA. I hope not. I don't want ANY terrorist in the country, let alone my STATE.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 01/22/09
Carolina, If they house them in a facility in SC.. I can readily say that I doubt any of them make it to the place alive.. LOL
FLETCH346 01/22/09
Thanks to Obama, it's a great day to be a terrorist and I'm sure, worldwide, there is great admiration and praise from the evil tyrants for the President.
FLETCH346 01/22/09
Charleston, SC is in the running to have those terrorist housed!

HECK NO
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 01/22/09
Anybody can be a good speaker in front of a prompter.
On another note... Obama sounded so lost during the signing of the Executive Oder to close GIMO that, he didn't even know what his own Executive Order meant!!!! LMAO!!!! Thank God he's a good speaker though...
FLETCH346 01/22/09
Fausto, that's a chant of a true patriot, isn't it?
FLETCH346 01/22/09
Slim, 'racist rednecks'? Next thing you know you'll be calling us 'gaybashers&homophobes' for giving you he\\.
FLETCH346 01/22/09
In his company: Calvin Coolidge (one of the worst presidents ever who contributed to the Great Depression, although one of the best MA governors) and Chester A. Arthur (Chinese Exclusion Act which limited immigration). Not the best of company to be with.
And by the way, he officially became president last night when he properly recited the oath of office.
There goes GITMO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2b1D5w82yU

Sweet Obama video.
OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA
President Obama. Sounds pretty good, huh?

Its nice to see that you racist rednecks are still biitching.
Slim Goodbody 01/22/09
honestly, who voted yes?
You know Red, it might be safer for the guy to tell them "Have a nice day", rather than having somebody escort them to the airport.
I can't believe they are seriously thinking of moving them to a Military Prison ... I don't think they would last a week in there.. LMAO!!! Maybe that's not such a bad idea.
FLETCH346 01/21/09
Some have said they don't like the tactics used on terrorists in custody. It's the terrorsts that play by different rules and they don't think like normal people so we just changed our rules to play their game. What happens if someone decides to release these terrorists on American soil? Are they going to be escorted to an airport to get out of the country or is someone going to stand at the gate saying, "have a ncie day."?
Red Zone 01/21/09
Suspend the hearings for Terror Trials, close down GITMO and bring the Terrorist Beasts to the U.S.
Wow, Obama's first act is a doooozy!!!
FLETCH346 01/21/09
I took the "fellow citizen" comment to him referring himself to more of a commoner than dissing the traditional line of "fellow Americans." I have more thoughts on how his speech was taken and how the crowd reacted. I want to see more news footage first to make a more informed decision and blog though before I write.
Red Zone 01/20/09
When Bush was hugging Mrs. Obama goodbye before he got on the plane... you could read his lips... he said "You will have the time of your life...I promise."

How sweet is that??
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 01/20/09
I have a friend in D.C. in that giant crowd right now and she says that... 'People are dinking 40oz's and Gin... chanting.. 'WE ARE FREE!'
And, the idiots on Fox News are really giving themselves a good name.
FLETCH346 01/20/09
Yes..I mean my question is...has the USA not ever had "hope?" He makes it seem we've been living under a communist for 8 years. It's insane.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 01/20/09
'How white can do right...'?? How about, 'How black can justify SLACK..' Geeeesh.. That Benediction had a little Rev. Wright in it....
FLETCH346 01/20/09
Barack Hussein obama is the president. As upset as it makes me,I pray he makes the right choices. God bless america.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 01/20/09
Ha!! Looks like 'Peter' from the 'Family Guy' behind the podium.
FLETCH346 01/20/09
'My fellow citizens...'???? What happened to 'My fellow Americans'??
Not a good way to start off an Inauguration Speech, in my opinion.
FLETCH346 01/20/09
43 minutes. May God bless our new president.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 01/20/09
3 HOURS
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 01/20/09
4 HOURS.
GOD BLESS AMERICA.
It's snowing in SC!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 01/20/09
A little over 4 hours...
Hopefully Obama can keep us as safe as W did. Like Fletch says, we'll know in 6 months.
Red Zone 01/19/09
Here in America, we will support who ever is in charge. We don't have to like it, but it is a Fact, and I will support whoever is in charge. Jay
-Mr. FLOAT- 01/19/09
And, for anyone who says, 'Economics is our main concern.'... Then, you must cherish money over innocent lives.
FLETCH346 01/17/09
I just hope the Nation is just as safe with Obama at the helm.. We'll know within the first 6 months.
FLETCH346 01/17/09
3 DAYS PEOPLE.

3 DAYS.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 01/17/09
I agree.. I think he should have stopped talking politics for more time and gotten more personal...but whatever. It wasn't very emotional..I teared up, but I didn't cry like I did at McCain's speech.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 01/17/09
It was short, sweet and to the point.. And, sorta had a fk u to everyone who bagged on any mistakes he might have made....
FLETCH346 01/16/09
HAHAHA!

Everyone remember to watch President Bush's farewell speech tonight at 8 EST
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 01/15/09
You would think but I think Obama has tried to distance himself from anything tieing him to his potential birthplace...
On that note... The TV show '24' has an eery tie to Africa this season....
FLETCH346 01/15/09
Ya know...if my brother were living in deep poverty in Kenya and I was the President-Elect of the United States of America....I think I would do SOMETHING.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 01/14/09
I wonder how many other of Obama's Freeloading Family Members will shack up at The White House? His brother will be moving from Kenya to Washington soon....
FLETCH346 01/14/09
Welcome to our 63rd member, Sooners7xNC!



GO SOONERS!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 01/10/09
The more I think about it.. I have a strong feeling that DC and Blagojevich are brothers.... Blago got all the hair...seeing as DC is balding... Both are incredible idiots tho...
FLETCH346 01/09/09
JA, actually, he is a Vietnam Vet that is as anti-Obama as you and I put together.. Things happened, stuff was said and there were some total misunderstandings.. Everyone took all this rhetoric out of context.. Something we are all used to here.
FLETCH346 01/07/09
ALSO, RACISM IS ALIVE AND WELL IN AMERICA!!!! Thanks to an African American, Mr. Rush.... 'If Burris was a white man he would've been let into the Senate.' BULL CRAP!
He was't let into the Senate because of a CORRUPT WHITE MAN!
FLETCH346 01/06/09
Can I be the first.. and last to say.. Just freakin' drop it!
FLETCH346 01/06/09
Repulsive because we have opinions? That makes no sense, and neither does the fact that you said Obama was our President. He's the president-elect, and won't be the pres. for another 14 days.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 01/06/09
Ugh..
FLETCH346 01/06/09
Being stupid is One thing
Being a BIGOT is another,
You site is repulsive along
with the people on it,like it or
not he's The President of this
country.
FRIEND TO ALL 01/06/09
Problem is it had nothing to do with politics. I'll be happy to ban you from the group if you can't be civil.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 01/05/09
Carolinagirl, No disrespect,but My Colors don't run
JetJocky 01/05/09
Well now,let me put it another way,Politics is a great arguing subject,
and I love it,especially when it comes to OBAMA,Your Friend Float started with his rhetoric on me and I retaliated,shame on me for standing up for myself,thats just the way I'am OK??? Don't forget to buy you new Presidents Coin's and Plates.
JetJocky 01/05/09
http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/317600-klighten-up-fannation
Thank you Fletch.

JetJocky- This group is not for high school drama, it's for sharing political points of view.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 01/04/09
Jet, I did it out of respect for Carolinagirl (creator) and the rest of the group.. Not the place for it.. Now, maybe out back in the alley.. I wouldn't mind takin' it there.. LOL
FLETCH346 01/04/09
Geee I feel real bad that some one deleted my remarks to float - aka ghost
Now WHY on earth would someone want to do such a thing.
JetJocky 01/04/09
well then he can suck it. South Carolina and Alabama both lose..my two favorite teams.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 01/04/09
I think GM: Super Bowl? is making fun of Bama losing and disappointing the entire SEC.
Carolina.. Those 'people' have no point.
FLETCH346 01/04/09
Your point?
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 01/03/09
OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA!
GM: Sid the Kid! 01/03/09
Welcome to our 63rd member, The Big Cat!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 12/22/08
Is it just me or does anyone else think that when Biden talks and introduces Obama.. that, Obama looks like he really has a dislike for Biden... Anyone else notice that?
FLETCH346 12/15/08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bECPpAKj9S0

FOXNEWS Shoe throwing incident..
JAubin, who throws a shoe? A stupid azzed Muslim, that's who...

In the Middle~Eastern Culture showing someone the bottom of your shoe or throwing a shoe(s) at someone is the ultimate insult.
I'm guessing that reporter would rather have his Saddam back..
FLETCH346 12/15/08
Now honestly, who throws a shoe?
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.aspx?id=350462 Great story here. Chicago politics at its best.
jbcom 12/11/08
"Obama addressed the scandal over his Senate seat Tuesday afternoon, saying, 'I had no contact with the governor or his office and so we were not, I was not aware of what was happening.' But Obama's senior advisor David Axelrod told a Chicago affiliate of Fox News that Obama had in fact spoken to Blagojevich about his empty Senate seat.
I know he's talked to the governor and there are a whole range of names, many of which have surfaced, and I think he has a fondness for a lot of them,' Axelrod said in the Nov. 23 interview.

The controversy continued Tuesday evening, when Axelrod issued a statement retracting his statement. 'I was mistaken when I told an interviewer last month that the President-elect has spoken directly to Governor Blagojevich about the Senate vacancy. They did not then or at any time discuss the subject,' said Axelrod.
Now, that, my friend, came from ABC News.. Not Hannity.
I find it a little odd that Axelrod, all of a sudden, 'misspoke'. Bullsh\t!
Didn't Obama just meet with the Nation's Governors ?? Do you think everyone is naive enough to think that Obama didn't meet/greet/talk/see or even recognize his own State's Governor during this conference?
Yeah, so what if he did meet Blago?? Doesn't mean anything, right? Exactly!!!
But, why freaking lie about not seeing him or talking to him forever?
I SEE THE CHANGE A COMIN'
FLETCH346 12/11/08
Welcome to our 63rd member, Mac Brody PHN!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 12/10/08
Welcome to our 62nd member, Devin 65
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 12/10/08
http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/303875?new=true

The most beautiful men of football. :)
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 12/10/08
I voted 100% because he's going to change his change plans so it looks like he changed everything
I wonder how much of a kickback Obama was going to get for his vacated spot? What kind of deal did Obama and the Gov have?
FLETCH346 12/09/08
Welcome jbcom
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 12/08/08
Welcome to our 61st member, Spak
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 12/05/08
I posted this as a comment under the latest blog but wanted to place it here, as well, to get everyone's honest opinion.

"Is it me.. Or, has Obama's Charisma kind of taken a backseat to an individual that forces smiles now and behaves more negatively?

He doesnt seem to portray the positive demeanor, the happy determined look on his face and his the up beat actions he did during the campaign.
Oh, heck, maybe the change in his character is just me.. ?"
FLETCH346 12/04/08
Gotta love change...where have I seen his secretary of defense before? and that secretart of state...
thanks to fletch for the poll idea
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 12/02/08
The longer the journey down the stairs, the bigger the smile becomes
THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:
SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE SLINKIES - NOT REALLY GOOD FOR ANYTHING BUT THEY BRING A SMILE TO YOUR FACE WHEN PUSHED DOWN THE STAIRS.
FLETCH346 12/02/08
Obama and his team better be paying attention to what's happening in India.. I think it's just the beginning. I think we'll see something next in the U.K. and then something big here in the U.S. post Oath. BE PREPARED
FLETCH346 11/27/08
Welcome to our 60th member, lakers#1 says ROLL TIDE!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 11/27/08
WISHIN' EVERYONE A HAPPY THANKSGIVING.... EVERYONE, except DC.
FLETCH346 11/26/08
BE PREPARED
FLETCH346 11/24/08
Exactly how hard would it be working an assembly line?? I mean, I know it would be monotonous as he\\ but other than that... I'd stand on my feet all day watching machinery for between $95,000-$150,000 / year.. And under O~bros plan.. those cats will still be getting a tax cut.
FLETCH346 11/18/08
So, with that being said, just how stupid does Obama think we are if he assumes we'll let him go pay for his union votes now? F--- you, Mr. Obama! You'll have to be less obvious with your tactics to sell the american people on that crap.
AngryCorgi 11/18/08
Another stat from a 2007 article I found:

"Ford: $70.51 ($141,020 per year)

GM: $73.26 ($146,520 per year)

Chrysler: $75.86 ($151,720 per year)

Toyota, Honda, Nissan (in U.S.): $48.00 ($96,000 per year)

According to AAUP and IES, the average annual compensation for a college professor in 2006 was $92,973 (average salary nationally of $73,207 + 27% benefits).

Bottom Line: The average UAW worker with a high school degree earns 57.6% more compensation than the average university professor with a Ph.D. (see graph above, click to enlarge), and 52.6% more than the average worker at Toyota, Honda or Nissan."

If that doesn't open your eyes, then nothing will.
AngryCorgi 11/18/08
Here's an excerpt from an article written in 2007.

"??? The automaker will implement a two-tier wage and benefits scale for jobs that GM and the UAW have agreed are "non-core" production jobs. Those jobs are expected to include many positions in which workers do not have their hands on a vehicle in the assembly process. In addition, GM is expected to offer a targeted special attrition program to move workers in those non-core jobs off the active worker member rolls. Wages and benefits for second-tier workers will average $27 per hour, compared with the average $73 per hour of current workers, the sources said."

Oh my, we are paying non-essential personnel 56k/yr? ****?! How about this...Pay everybody UNDER $100k/year working the lines. Seriously, I am supporting myself and my wife on $62k/year and am fine. $145k/year and I'd be retiring when I'm 50. Add to the fact that the autoworkers are getting AWESOME health benefits.
AngryCorgi 11/18/08
I totally agree, Fletch. My first car was a '66 mustang, followed by a '94 and then an '86 mustang. The '66 was better built than either of the other two in terms of parts quality. The '86 and '94 seemed about on par until the '94 got to be 2 or 3 years old and all the pieces started cracking, whereas the '86 held up pretty well for a good 185k miles, when I finally sold it. The '94 was cute at first, but turned out to be cosmetically and mechanically short-lived. I have since owned 5 different toyotas, one subie and one jeep liberty. The liberty wasn't half bad, but the toyotas were such a great value, and all of them were fairly spartan but still had such a great quality feel about them.

Why can't american vehicles be the same? All of the Toyotas were built in Japan, but I've seen other usa-built toyotas and they seem just as good. Why is it necessary to pay someone 70/hr to work on an assembly line, especially when we are building the cars less efficiently than Japan is? This is not that hard to fix. I'm not ready to send any money to fatten up the already porky auto industry. It's time to come back to earth, demand efficient work, and hand out pay that makes sense, not this crazy 145k/year industry average. That's totally nuts!
AngryCorgi 11/18/08
Angry, I couldn't agree more. These $70+ /hr earners need to bail out the very company they work for with their inflated salaries.
And, start producing a better quality product. You ask anyone why they choose a foreign made vehicle over an American Made and 9 times out of 10 you'll here 'better quality, more reliable, better warranty'. Price is usually isn't a factor... It's what youre getting for what your paying.. .And, for the last 15-20 years people buying American made vehicles haven't been getting what they are paying for.......
FLETCH346 11/17/08
Awww... I missed so much foolish banter from Steve! I should pay more attention to the Locker Talk so I don't miss the juicy debates.

More on the auto-bailout (aka, payment for Obama's votes) issue:

I was watching Fox this morning (Steve will love this source) and they were citing the variance between GM and Toyota in terms of benefits costs and pay. Average GM worker pay = $70+/hr while Toyota twirls out $47/hr! Medical benefit compensations = $1600 per car built for GM, while Toyota spends $300 per car built. Talk about record inefficiency in the USA. You think we need to blindly throw $50billion at the UAWs now? Geesh! There needs to be a push to restructure the way the UAW does business and the way all US auto-manufacturers operate. No wonder the cars are made from crap materials here, we spend all the money on 145k salaries and ridiculously high health benefits! I wish I was raking in $70+/hr!
AngryCorgi 11/17/08
Yeah we do PITT.. I'm glad you understand the pain we feel trying to communicate with you.
FLETCH346 11/16/08
At a certain point, one gets tired of talking to a brick wall.
Um. You know he won't. They all come running back for more.

It's kind of ironic, because 2 days ago Steveo left comment on my page saying "you can't silence me" and this whole charade, and now he leaves.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 11/16/08
C~girl.. I wasn't trying to run him off and honestly wish and hope he doesn't leave.
He needs to drop the holier than thou mentality and realize that he's no better than any other service man or woman.. Regardless of their career fields.
Everyone has a choice as to what branch and what career field they want when entering the Service.. I chose USAF Security Forces and my Commander chose me to enter the Phoenix Raven Program.. I do my job to the best of my ability.. And, I'm sure Steveo does, as well.. But, that doesn't make him any better than me.. That's the only point I'm trying to make.
FLETCH346 11/16/08
Steveo, I guess a Federal Air Marshall doesn't have a serious job either??
Since no other airplanes have been hijacked since 9/11 I guess they're not needed, huh?
FLETCH346 11/16/08
Hey JAubin and Fletch.....I think this is record time for running a person off who can't handle the truth.........
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 11/16/08
I don't have to defend my job or my career decision. I chose to serve rather than using my BS Mgt. Degree to make bank... For me, it's not about making money.
And, if you had done your research then you'd know exactly why they started the Raven Program back in '97.
And, your right on one point...

"You sit on a plane while its parked...your a security guard for an assets that has not once been attacked while on those missions."
EXACTLY... You proved my point right there.

You're wrong in the fact that...

"The threat levels are low to minimal if that in the countries you go to...as long as you can sleep at night knowing people die every day while you sit on aircraft, then ok....I'm happy for you and your service"

The locations I've set up on Aircraft are all Medium to High Risk Locations.. Unless you know where I've been and received the intel then how the he\\ would you know?
And, just because I didn't decide to go Infantry or Armor doesn't make me any less important in the job that I do...
One last point.. I don't blow smoke up anyone's azzzz about what I do in the USAF. I am proud of what I do and stand for and have not ever made myself sound like something that I'm not.... No, it's not as dangerous as being on the streets of Baghdad.. but, as you seem to forget.. everyone who serves has a job .. and when everyone does their job, regardless of what it is.. it's just as important.
So, get off your 'frontline high horse' .. Youre no better than the next troop.
FLETCH346 11/16/08
I'm out, good luck with your group...and good luck with that 20 year coosh Ret. Flecth....you can tell unknowing people all they want about stuff, without them knowing what it real is, but you know what it is and I do, that's all that matter's.
Its all very simple...if you have never been there, then you would have no idea why me, and yes there are plenty of other people like me, that are bitter. You have no idea why people like us are bitter....especially when you sit on an aircraft "downrange" and then on your off time go and tour the country as a free vacation...
You sit on a plane while its parked...your a security guard for an assets that has not once been attacked while on those missions. The threat levels are low to minimal if that in the countries you go to...as long as you can sleep at night knowing people die every day while you sit on aircraft, then ok....I'm happy for you and your service....if you had an ounce of what other service members have been through....you'd be bitter.....it's not talking **** about other service members...it's telling what they do...and you just don't like the fact at what you really do is a joke.
Also, 30 seconds?? Who ya bringin' with ya?
FLETCH346 11/16/08
Ummm, me providing protection to USAF assets in 38 different countries doesn't qualify me as being downrange??
Pal, just because I haven't been sent to Iraq or Afghanistan doesn't mean that I don't have a job to do...
The reason I say youre a puss is because only a puss would talk smack about his fellow service members...

"i have been deployed multiple times for more than 3 years of my short 5 and half year career....shot at, blown up at, and your the one who has been in longer than me who has NEVER deployed and im the pus sy???? "

Being shot at and nearly blown up doesn't make you anymore of a man than me, bro... And, if you think that then you need to pull your head from your azzzzz and open your eyes. Being a man comes from inside and it sounds as if you've all but given up in what and why you joined to begin with.... PLUS, unless youre my Commander, which youre not, you have no earthly idea how long and where I've been deployed.
I will say.... in all, it's very comparable to your time deployed.
My first yearlong deployment, 9/25/2001, was the reason for my divorce...So, don't preach to me about not making sacrifices and such....

To be honest.. I don't think I've ever run into such a bitter liberal that's still serving their country...
FLETCH346 11/16/08
Lemme get this straight, i have been deployed multiple times for more than 3 years of my short 5 and half year career....shot at, blown up at, and your the one who has been in longer than me who has NEVER deployed and im the pus sy???? right...lets get something straight. before you preach about teamwork, why don't you actually go down range with a team and work with them....until then, go twirl your baton....
60...you'd be lucky to last 30...

Don't make me embarrass you about being a Raven, you know damn well what you guys do...if you really want me to, I will call your bluff about that WIKI article...IMO the RAVEN program is the biggest fraud waste and abuse program in the AF.
Steveo, I can honestly sit here and say that you're nothing but a
P**U**S**S**Y.
Your sorry azzzz wouldnt last 60 seconds with me.
FLETCH346 11/15/08
Steveo, I finished my B.S. in 3 1/2 years, thank you. A glorified baton instructor?? Maybe if you'd educate yourself before opening your pie~hole then you'd know that I'm more than that...
This is what I do, you Moron

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Raven

... ASP training is only a small part and it's well used.. seeing as we have to deal with people with less than lethal means, if needed.
The Rules of Engagement are different than on the frontlines.

Also, for a fellow serviceman to talk trash to another shows you have NO CLASS whatsoever.
We all have a job to do and each individual plays a part within the team.. TEAM is probably something you know nothing about... Sounds to me that it's all about YOU....
I feel sorry for your peers.
FLETCH346 11/15/08
So my typing errors are more detrimental to my education status then yours? I mean my name is clear as day in all these post and yet you still misspell it...even when you are looking right at it...

As far as your group, no I cannot post my opinion on your discussion board if i am not a member along with the locker talk...I.E. not being able to voice my opinion on matters that are FALSE.

If me, being a member of your group, is your biggest worry, than I think you are mistaken as why you are in this group. See if it was myself, in your shoes, i would be more concerned with the group than rather someone who actually puts a debate into the topics at hand.
Um. Ok. First off a couple of lines in your last post make no sense. Correct grammar might help Mr. "Bachelor Degree." Second off, you can still post comments in the Locker Talk section and in the blogs if you aren't a member. So you really have NO reason to be a member. I really don't see your point but to annoy us. Which really is fine with us. We've been through this multiple times, as there are cycles of left-wing lunatics that come through here doing what you're doing.

You saying your opinion is FINE. That is why we have a public group. There would be no point to this group if we didn't allow people of the other side to comment.

Obviously we can handle people TRYING to debunk the truth.....we deal with it every frickin day. Again, that's the point of the group. Talking with people who have different opinions than we do. Do you understand that? I feel like I have to explain this to every liberal around.

Also, since you are a member of the group, I can ban you to where you never can post comments again.

So choose for yourself, smart one.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 11/15/08
If you took 2 seconds to...yes actually think....about me having less than high school education, now how could i possible join the military...i would expect YOU of all people to be smart enough think for once.....seeing as your so about, me in this group, than rather posting anything worth reading or contributing to it...it shows IMO your lack of knowledge...and more so your I'm a follower type attitude...
i join the group to silence your lying blogs, untruthful posts and to defended. what should have been defended.....if you cant handle that, then kick me out every day and ill join every day to dismiss your groups weary ways....as for education...4 years degree...some of us have schooling done, I;m 25 with a bachelors, more than I can say about more this half this group......

Raven huh Fletch....how cute, a glorified baton instructor...

Carolina girl, whats the matter, you cant handle someone debating the links and blogs you type up? cant handle that can we?
We all know that Stevo..who joined the group for no reason and is now being kicked out is the one who voted for "less than high school"
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 11/15/08
Carolina.. on the Poll you've posted.. You forgot the category of .. "High School Drop Out Living Off The Parents".. I think it's very applicable.
FLETCH346 11/14/08
My new profile pic.. Another Prejudiced, racist and Biggoted moment for me.. One of my best friends and Raven Team Members.. Big Pack Daddy.
Pitt, I think if you told him I was racist he'd probably pound your into the ground like a nail. LMAO!!!
FLETCH346 11/14/08
Obama needs to go on over to Iran and have that little sit down chat with them about test firing that missile that's capable of not only hitting Israel but also Europe.
Awww, we all know Iran means no harm...
FLETCH346 11/14/08
Welcome goblue10...I'n assuming your a Michigan fan?
when did I mention "we"? I am glad not to be the "we" that elected Obama.
The guy hasn't even been sworn into office and your complaining about not seeing changes? come on....should i take your lack of intellect on that comment as a hiccup? Your insane, like any of other SKEPTIC Obama voter and even obama supporter to think change will happen instantly...rather than looking at these actions as horrid and rancid, can we at least wait to see what effects they play out on our country's standing?

and JAubin, not one of those comments were yours....so there is no "we" that you can talk about...
Angry, I'm happy to see that someone else is getting all the love in the group in my absence.. Keep up the good work...
FLETCH346 11/12/08
Greetings from Ecuador..

JA, I think you u know full well what we think about O....
FLETCH346 11/12/08
Speaking of people buying off politicians, what does everyone think about Obama going back on his promise on accepting money from PACs?
And, btw, we are worried about "us" (read the US-of-A) not "me" as an individual. "We" can't allow a small group to buy politicians off and waste the government's resource or "we" (the US-of-A again) are screwed!
AngryCorgi 11/12/08
I understand what you are saying, but there is no reason why a reorganization/replacement of the current f'ed-up auto-union system can't occur at the same time as assistance is lent. The union leaders pushed for Obama to be in office because they felt he was the easiest to manipulate their way. Allowing that manipulation to occurr is not acceptable to anyone in the US. I'm telling you, the system needs to start CHANGING now! Where's my CHANGE I CAN BELIEVE IN??
AngryCorgi 11/12/08
You both are more worried about the "me" aspect rather than the bigger picture...weather you think so or not, having these companies go under would have DRASTIC effects on our econmoy and teh world economy...when something drastically happens to ours the entire world is effected...so having multiple car plants shut downs just strains our government even more...the unemployment checks that would be cut for the thousand it not tens of thousands, would be huge...not only would the car companies take a hit, but other companies as well that SUPPORT the car industry. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of bail outs, but if you couldn't see from the last 700 billion dollar one...if they don't happen drastic effects will take place...hence why my father and mother lost a HUGE chunk of their retirement, along with millions of other Americans when the Housing industry took a dive...yes corruption had to do soemthing with it....but there is no viable way around the money that NEEDS to be put in place...i could maybe see something along the lines that CCC said, wax the programs from the top and put in new leadership, but until things are fixed, these are necessary .....
A closed-minded way of thinking? How open-minded do you have to be to blindly throw money at a union? Seriously. That is hatred --- I HATE CORRUPTION! The unions have been wasting money for years. If money is granted it needs to be monitored by a different, responsible group and the auto-unions need to be dissolved or replaced with a lower-consumption entity that can speak for the auto-workers, manage the benefits and conduct business in a respectable manner. This isn't an anti-auto-industry issue, it's an anti-corruption issue. Stop trying to make the issues into personal shots. The realilty is that BOTH campaigns promised reform and regardless of who won I WANT TO SEE IT STARTING NOW!
AngryCorgi 11/12/08
See Steve, all type of bailout plans I disagree with. I do not believe that the government should be helping most of these companies. It is not the government's place to worry about what is happening to business. The only time government and business should cross paths is with taxes. As Thomas Paine said, "The government that governs the best, governs the least".
All this coming from someone who WONT be sitting in a bread line when the plants close....which in return would put unemployment in some states to double digits....typical hatred....instead of COMPLAINING and bitching, it would be better to help come up with a solution...wouldn't expect that from someone with such a close minded way of thinking....and i will gladly put the toll of how much the bush admin wasted when all is said and done with Barack in office...
dam AngryCorgi...I missed my pool on when promises would be broken by a week exactly...
Well, here it comes, like everyone should be expecting...the beginning of wasteful, irresponsible spending by a democrat. For all their b**ching and complaining, they are now pushing an agenda they campaigned AGAINST! I saw this coming 2 days ago when the reports of the auto industry wanting a bail-out surfaced. The big issue is that 50% of the money being requested (in the multiple-tens-of-billions) is to pay for union benefits. Of course I immediately knew that Obama would be all for this, since he is from a corrupt union-fed state and because a great deal of his numbers in the swing-states was brought on by unions pushing for him. They did a polling report that gave all the union-member votes to Obama on FOX the night of the election. Now the unions want their payoff. Obama, proving he has no shame, is now saying Bush should sign off on the bailout of the auto industry. I'd be all for it, if it actually bailed out the industry and NOT THE FREAKING UNION! This is an example of union corruption still alive and well in the 21st century. I expected no less from a liberal from Illinois. Hopefully, Obama's bet that Bush is a **** falls through and he doesn't push the bailout without heavy revisions. There are still enough republicans and fiscally-responsible independents in the senate to keep this union-cash-cow from being slid through easily.

Get this:

"Democrats want a second stimulus that would include aid to Detroit's big three automakers, unemployment benefits and infrastructure projects.

Bush's desire to pass the Colombia Free Trade deal on its merits is no secret, a senior White House aide told FOX News. But that deal has been frozen by the Democratic majority in Congress.

The U.S. and Colombia are close allies and the president wants to increase trade between the two countries. But Democrats say a deal would mean more jobs being exported, which is taboo for a party supported by a heavily unionized workforce that elected Obama.

Democrats say they also object to the human rights climate in Colombia, which union leaders have described as seriously threatening to workers. Colombia's government says such claims are blown out of proportion and workers are protected."

It was the Clinton Administration that pushed NAFTA through, while Ross Perot (look at the debate on youtube where he shreds Al Gore) was opposing it because of the debasement of the quality of life for the Mexican workers. So now the Dems have turned 180? Give me a break. Obama wouldn't be in office if the unions weren't looking to suck at the federal teat. So, Obama's vow for change, was essentially to increase the federal corruption and run up spending to pay for votes. Fantastic. Now we will get the Obama-nation we deserve for voting for this jack@55 and not publicly opposing him.
AngryCorgi 11/11/08
Any ideas for a new group poll can be fanmailed to me... (carolinagirl)
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 11/10/08
Well, guys.. Ya'll have a good one.. I'm hittin' the road.

PITT, btw, I do like your avatar.... Love that movie!
FLETCH346 11/09/08
My new profile pic.. I don't think a man who is predjudiced against Middle Easterners would be there shakin' one's hand.. Now, would he?
Honestly, I thought I'd found OBL and wasn't letting go until I was sure..LOL
FLETCH346 11/09/08
I think Obama got confused when he was filling out the forms; he did write down president, but I think he meant President of DI college football
I wish I could have a dime for everytime someone makes an assumption about what I'm trying to say...
I'D BE RICH!!!
SPREAD THE WEALTH=TAKE FROM THE WORKING CLASS AND GIVE TO THE NO CLASS..
Dang, I'm gettin' started early this Saturday morning. LOL

Carolina!! Where ya been?? You have a HOT DATE last night???
FLETCH346 11/08/08
No.. I would pose an actual TD.. Like.. WVU will whip Cincy tomorrow night.. But.. have everyone vote Cinty.. Get me?
FLETCH346 11/07/08
I don't think the TD thing would work...the mods might catch you
Hey.. I just wanted to comment that tonight is the most calm night I've seen in here in awhile.. And, i'm happy to see it...
Actually, I came up with an idea of a 'Disagree With Respect' Weekend with awards .. but, didn't think it would go down.. Had to do with everyone in this group making it an entire weekend.. Disagreeing, of course, but with respect...
The first person to disrespect would post a TD and lose.... And, if everyone made it through.. The Democrats in this group would win a TD against me.. I'd post and lose to all of you..
FLETCH346 11/07/08
Barney must hate the media too
OH WOW!!!! LOOK AT THIS.. Even Bush's dog is pizzzzzed off... LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vuq7IlK8NN4
FLETCH346 11/07/08
That what I said, only in farmer talk I think
No.. if she were a horse she would've been put out of her misery.
FLETCH346 11/07/08
If that lady was a horse, she would have been taken out to graze a long time ago.
At least we all can agree that the rendition was atrocious.. to say the least.. LOL
FLETCH346 11/07/08
He did have his head bowed a little...
He forgot to put his hand over his heart because he was too busy praying to God for that woman to stop singing so poorly.
Seeing as how my first guess was Obama...I would have to say the Rev.
JA, LMAO!!! I'm giving you two guesses as to who that singer probably voted for.. And, your first guess don't count.. LOL
FLETCH346 11/07/08
Forget about Obama not placing his hand over his heart, we have a bigger issue to deal with for that video...the way she sang the anthem, completely awful. I hate people who have to put their own twist on a national song; if the anthem was meant to be sung that way, then Congress would have changed it.
A TRUE AMERICAN.. yeah..sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU9iCANi02o

Also, I hope that woman doesn't quit her day job.. LOL
FLETCH346 11/07/08
Hey PITT.. I'm WARY of Gang Members.. I don't care what color their skin is, white, black, yellow, brown or red.
Does that make me prejudiced against whites, black, yellow, brown or red people?
NO.
It makes me WARY and cautious of the 'gang'....
FLETCH346 11/07/08
When did I ever say he would be like Hitler? I believe I my words were that his followers believe in him like Hitler's followers believed in him.
Wow, if you're condoning the insinuation that the Obama will be like Hitler, then I have nothing but pity for you.

You're no longer loyal to your ideas, you're loyal to a party.

Stop with the gang mentality. You don't have to defend everything everyone on your side says. If someone who agrees with you says or does something stupid or disgusting, you don't have to defend them. Be a human being, not a gang member.
No sh\t!
FLETCH346 11/07/08
Too bad they don't make a group
JA, as always.. they will draw their own lost conclusions.
Sometimes I don't even know why we waste our time even awknowledging some of the stuff.
FLETCH346 11/07/08
The whole comparison with Obama and Hilter is because of the type of speeches he makes; he draws millions of audience members (same as Hitler), is a young energentic figure (same as Hitler), and his followers believe in his every word (same as Hitler)...see this comparison. Nobody is saying he is going to go on a mass genocide, they are just comparing him to Hitler because of the cult-like following they both created.
Oh.. PITT,,, you poor boy. People are comparing O~man to these political figures for the mere reason of their style of Politics....
I don't think anyone seriously believes that O~man is going to start his own brand of genocide..
For once.. take your blinders off and view the whole picture and not one specific detail that you get fixated on.
FLETCH346 11/07/08
He's the President-elect of the United States. Of course he's going to have a ton of security whenever he's in a public place.


Who in the media has been comparing Obama to Stalin? Who are these top figures that have been comparing him to Hitler?

Associating Obama with dictators who killed millions is a scare tactic. There is no reasonable argument that could be made against it.
QUESTION: How many people does it take to attend Obama's children's Parent/Teacher Conference??
Looks to be close to 30 or 40.
All the security surrounding him .. Kind of makes you wonder if and how many threats he's already received....
NOTE:Before any of you FLETCH Haters think I'm condoning an attempt on O~man's life.. I definitely AM NOT.
FLETCH346 11/07/08
"There's also the poster in McCain's campaign office that compared Barack Obama to Marx, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, and Castro:"

If McCain was the only person in America comparing Obama to these characters then I could see the 'Scare Tactics' point of view.. But, when the media and other top figures.. along with millions of Americans suspect the same thing.. It ceases being a 'Scare Tactic'.
FLETCH346 11/07/08
Even if I grant you that Obama "pals around" with Bill Ayers, that's only one terrorist. Who's the other one.

Also, Obama is not a socialist. The Socialist party's candidate for president said he wasn't and I know a socialist who said Obama was definitely not a socialist.

Both are untrue and were used solely to try and scare stupid people
I am going to be for now, I'll be back in the morning, so go on ahead and try to put up enough posts so Fletch doesn't see.
Calling Obama a socialist and saying he pals around with terrorists. Both of which are untrue.


Really, both? Maybe not this morning, maybe not tomorrow night, but soon enough you will find out that he is socialist. As for palling around with terrorists, Bill Ayers...does that name ring a bell?
Calling Obama a socialist and saying he pals around with terrorists. Both of which are untrue.

There's also the poster in McCain's campaign office that compared Barack Obama to Marx, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, and Castro:

http://tinyurl.com/6ce32g

There were also further attacks carried out by surrogates.
And what scare tatics did they use?
By using scare tactics. Red Zone is saying that scare tactics are part of a terrorists MO.

Hence, he must think Palin and McCain are terrorists.
How did McCain and Palin bring fear to Americans?
So you're calling John McCain and Sarah Palin terrorists?
Sorry for the double post. The site had a temporary snafu.
Red Zone 11/06/08
Scare tactics are part of a terrorist's MO. I would have thought a smart 19 year old would have known that.
Red Zone 11/06/08
Scare tactics is part of a terrorist's MO. I would have thought that a smart 19 yr. old would have already known that.
Red Zone 11/06/08
LOL, you're still buying that crap? I thought you realized that that was just a scare tactic.
The USS on American military ships might now stand for "United Socialists States" come January.
Red Zone 11/06/08
So people are now freely admitting they are part of a known terrorist organization? Hmmm....let me make a phone call to someone I know in Washington.
Red Zone 11/06/08
Is Africa a continent or a country?
Can you not read? I don't havve anything to say about CNN. All I have to say is Glenn Beck is a piece of s***.
On second thought, speak your mind about CNN here Pitt.
Dont say that too loud Pitt...this website is controlled by CNN and they could silence you
Hey Dooooshbag.. I'm WARY.. Don't put words in my mouth ... If you cannot figure out the difference between the two then your IQ isn't high enough to stay in this group.
FLETCH346 11/06/08
I don't give a damn about CNN, I'm talking about the arsewhipe known **** Glenn Beck.
So CNN is prejudice?
Glenn Beck is a piece of s***. He's prejudiced against Muslims like FLETCH is.
Ready, I'm going to put everybody at ease here...

We are not racist because we did not vote for Obama, why? His ideas are awful for America. Youtube is theme song. Just to let you know, it is done by Glenn Beck, somebody who works for CNN.
For those of you who call me 'Racist' and a 'Biggot' for not voting for Obama..
I can easily do the same to you Obama supporters by saying..
'You are all Racist due to the fact that you voted for this man based solely on the color of his skin.' Which, actually is a form of Racism.

PITT and your other little friends.. If your youre going to talk trash about me.. Be man enough to stay here and talk about me instead of running to another site to brainwash others, twist my words and get people disliking me... You don't know me.. Nor, I doubt you'll ever have the pleasure.. barring any unforseen circumstances.
FLETCH346 11/06/08
Ya'll are a bunch of tough men, and I'm an emotional wreck. I didn't start crying until I saw McCain's last speech With Sarah tearing up in the background. Hit me hard.


Congrats to Barack ,and welcome to a socialist nation.


That wasn't gracious? It was about as gracious as I could be at that moment. And don't start talking about the"socialst nation" part. That's my opinion.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 11/06/08
And Pitt, once again you are showing stupidity...we accept that McCain lost, we aren't going to pull an Al Gore. Will I support Obama, until he starts talking socialism then I will respect him. However, I will never ever respect his belief and ideas about the way the government and economy should work...after all his degree is in law, not economics.
You people probably molest children and murder hobos like typical conservatives.
I don't think he is banned, he probably is making up more nonsense like a typical Liberal
Are you kidding Carolinagirl? Look at the comments in the blog. The only gracious loser was the author.
all non members cannot write in the message boards i thought. and you keep joining the group, so i keep kicking you out. but i never banned you.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 11/06/08
Hey Fausto. Nice to know you remember us. LMAO.

Anyway..You are obviously not a gracious winner. Typical Democrat, I guess.

If you would look at the blog by CCC about Obama's victory, you would see that we support whoever becomes President, but we don't have to agree with them.

You wait and see. They we will be saying "Told ya!"
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 11/06/08
I have been banned from commenting in the group message board - I'm not shocked at all you can ignore the truth and ignore myself but I don't care.
omg Fletch...he is soooo racist against his own race.
Hey Faus, you do know that the minority is sometimes the majority right???
Sure, but we're the best. Hezbollah ain't got s*** on us!

[ululation]
We were wrong? Personally, I never predicted a McCain victory.
I am just really against a Obama victory..
Fausi, that last vid post is for you as well as PITT.....
FLETCH346 11/06/08
Bicycles with dirtybombs, no doubt... Anyway...
PITT, Let me allow Pastor Manning to make my point for me...... Pay attention to the man's race.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_aIvfFq3BA&NR=1
FLETCH346 11/06/08
My first post here since the election, so, here you go:

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OBAMA WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SUCK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I WAS RIGHT! YOU WERE WRONG! YOU GUYS ARE THE MINORITY! IT IS NOT NORMAL TO HATE BARACK OBAMA! YOU GUYS ARE JUST BIGOTED REDNECKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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You do realize that Al-Qaeda is just one of several hundred terrorist groups, (PLO, the Ku, just to name a couple)
Yep, I'm in Al-Qaeda (Don't tell anyone. Seriously, don't tell anyone). They've got us in training now. We're just riding bicycles into buildings now.
Wow, finally.. something we agree upon.
FLETCH346 11/06/08
You do fit the discription...one who terrorizes, which you have done to the members of this group.
FLETCH is right...


I'M A TERRORIST!
The REAL first black president....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcQUv2iaRFg

LMAO!!!! PITT, youre probably too young to even know who this man is....
FLETCH346 11/06/08
Can somebody (I perfer a Liberal) answer me this questions...

If the Messiah's economic plans were so good, then why hasn't the global market stablized over the past couple of days? It continues to drop...you people wanted change and voted on his economic policies (yeah, I know that he can't do anything until January 20), but still the stock markets around the world continue to sink. What is happening and why hasn't the world embraced the idea of Obama, which everybody seemed to want (especially Russia).
O' Hail the Messiah Lord Obama
Agrippa.. good observation.
Anger issues??? He\\ yes!! Seeing all that has transpired and will transpire in the coming months is enough to make any red blooded American angry.
So, when it comes to this Nation, which I am very passionate about, and it's freedoms and morales are put in jeopardy... Angry isn't even the word.
FLETCH346 11/06/08
Steveo.. please enlighten us.. What is it that you do? I'm very interested to know.. PITT can't seem to divulge what he does (My guess is 'planning and logistics')let's see if you can muster up the cajones to say....

'Air Force Services Squad'?? I'm guessing you mean The Services Flight whose job it is to feed the troops and provide them with MWR (Morale, Welfare and Recreation). No, that's not my AFSC but there's no job that means less than any of the others. If not for our Services Flight we'd go hungry and bases would be far worse when it comes to the morale and welfare of the troops. Since youre in the game of 'Assuming' .. Care to assume again?
FLETCH346 11/06/08
A perfect example of Steveo and PITT thinking they know what they're talking about... Always assuming.....
Steveo, believe me, I had no idea you were even gone and had no idea you had been removed.
PITT, I thought of a perfect example of being WARY as opposed to prejudiced.
As for the 'White' people question.. YES, if I were going to a section of town where crime, drugs and gangs run rampant. I would be WARY of WHITEs that are gangbanging in that part of town. Am I prejudiced against White people... NOOOOoooo... Am I WARY... Yeeeesssssss... See the difference.. What am I thinking.. I'm sure you don't.
FLETCH346 11/06/08
No. That would be me that kicked you out. When you bash other members, and are rude, you will be kicked out.

I can ban you so you can't comment anymore if you would like.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 11/06/08
Wow kick me out the group FLETCH? cause i called out your bull sh it blog about saluting???? get real man, nothing you write in this group is real...or even your own words...yoru just a follower with no intent of leading...go back to your air force services squad and pretend like you manke a difference....
did you research King Phillip's War? The land was granted by Indians to a Baptist community looking to create a community.
You don't think the whites started it by invading the Native Americans' country?
King Phillip's War
Really, the Native Americans started it?

Whatever you have to tell yourself...
Im not blaming it, I'm just pointing out that the Indians started the conflict...also there were several tribes in colonial America that were friendly to the colonists while other tribes waged war.
I was talking to FLETCH.

But if you're seriously trying to say blame the white race's genocide of the Native Americans on the Native Americans, that's hilarious.
Fletch has got anger issues. Mommy never hugged him and his dad was absent is my guess
Agrippa GODSON 11/05/08
What is bitarsianship?
Gruden 11/05/08
When exactly did Muslims become a race...and when did I mention them?
That seems a bit hypocritical. Why are you afraid of Muslims and not history's most dangerous race?
Indians started the first war in colonial America, should we be wary of them also?
Not in the least you piece of sh\t.
FLETCH346 11/05/08
I'm headed to work..
Hey PITT.. why don't you come down and try to enter a restricted area .. Give me something to do.
FLETCH346 11/05/08
So, you should be wary of white people than, too. No race has caused more death than the whites.

So I ask you, are you wary of whites?
You've stooped to new lows PITT.. even though your Rockstar has won.. You're still here proving your a piece of sh\t..
Now, not only are you a piece of sh\t... You're a pu$$$$$$y azzz piece of sh\t.
I don't know what you are PITT but I'm seriously questioning now if youre actually an American or not.

I'M SERIOUSLY STARTING TO BELIEVE
THAT YOU CONDONED THE 9/11 ATTACKS MUSLIMS CARRIED OUT!
FLETCH346 11/05/08
With a Democrat controlled Senate and House, who really believes there will be bitarsianship in Washington? Highly unlikely. I can see Rush Limbaugh's ratings going up further now as Republicans listen to Radio Free America.
Red Zone 11/05/08
PITT, If a gaggle of Jews hijacked 4 aircraft and used them as weapons .. Killing thousands of people then.. YES.. I'd be WARY of them as well..
FLETCH346 11/05/08
Twisting words around like Dems have been doing for the past year is kinda fun...I'm actually looking foward to the next 4 years until the first amendment is repealed.
That is offensive to the Jewish community Pitt, I can't believe that you would say that...
Jimmy Carter didn't give this country away.. Like Obama is going too....
FLETCH346 11/05/08
If I were to say, "I'm wary of the Jews." would you think i was anti-Semitic?

You should.
PITT, Seriously.. I thought we put an end to the name calling between one another a few weeks ago.. but, you've seriously made me open my eyes to what you really are..
I don't care if your a Muslim, an American, Black, white, yellow, red or green... The only thing I see is a delirious.. JACKAZZZZZ...
FLETCH346 11/05/08
New topic...

Because everybody was so afraid that McCain was going to be Bush's 3rd term, I am going to go on record that Obama will be Jimmy Carter's 2nd term. Some outlets are beginning to say this, and I support their claim. Obama might even be worse than Carter (hard to do unless your name begins with Thomas - Jefferson & Jackson)
'You're TV War baby claim is stupid. The News doesn't even report on the war.'


PITT, Is your head so far up your azzzz that it's all that fuzzy and dark!?!?!?
Back when you were still getting your first pube the war is all that was on the News.. Today, it's actually being mentioned right now!!!
You have seriously just proved how ignorant you really are..
FLETCH346 11/05/08
ok I'm back...could you repeat the question?
HEY DUMBAZZZZZ(PITT).. 'WARY' DOES NOT MEAN PREJUDICED.. LOOK IT UP YOU FREAKIN FOOL!!!
FLETCH346 11/05/08
hold on, let me google those words before I respond...I'll be back in 10 minutes.
Are you seriously suggesting that me calling FLETCH a bigot, which he has shown he is with his comments about Muslims, is the same thing as censorship?

I've never said he shouldn't be allowed to make comments. I've only said that his comments are stupid.

So that's two words you don't fully understand:
censorship and landslide
Sensoring people includes making outragous claims that they are racist, bigots, antiSemetic, etc. As for freedom of speech, cheerish while you can...
"President Obama" LMAO. Not until January 20th, is it "President Obama." Change it to "President-Elect Obama."
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 11/05/08
That doesn't make sense. i believe in freedom of speech, but it obviously doesn't mean I like it when people disagree with me. live everyone, I want to be right. But I'm not going to censor anyone that may disagree with me.

I'm not sure what your point is.
Hey Pitt, how can you be part of a group that supports freedom of speech and expression, yet hate it when somebody disagrees with you and/or proves you wrong?
FLETCH, I'm glad you can admit that you're prejudiced against Muslims.


You're TV War baby claim is stupid. The News doesn't even report on the war.
Thanks, RZ.. You described what I've always termed the...
'TV War Babies'.. my exact theory on why early teens today hate the war and think we shouldn't be fighting it.. When the next incident occurs you'll see it differently, PITT.

Kind of ironic.. Guys back then (post 9/11) that are your age now were lining up to join the military to join the fight against the tiranny that attacked us....
FLETCH346 11/05/08
PITT, you have a lot to learn.
I'm WARY of Muslims.. and for damned good reason.
As for Gays.. I have a few friends who **** and I treat them no different than anyone else. I merely made a comment that the camera only seemed to find gay couples in the Pro-Obama crowd.
How in the world does that make me prejudiced against gays.
Another thing.. You won't disclose your race.. Which is fine and I commend you for what you did disclose..
But, I don't care what race or nationality I was.. I'd be proud and wouldn't hide it....
If youre African American or Muslim.. that's fine by me.. But, at least be proud enough of who you are to say it....
Me, I'm a 40 y/o, half Irish..half Cherokee Indian.. you know I'm in the USAF, I am pro-choice..to a point but do not condone abortion past the 6-8 week time frame.
I don't agree with Obama's 'Spread the Wealth' idea.. And, i don't think that the Government should be in the Health Care business.
I'm not racist, I'm not a biggot, I'm not a homophobic and guess what? I'm still a proud American who happens to be a Republican.
FLETCH346 11/05/08
You don't understand Pitt. I don't think gays should be legally married and they shouldn't share health care benefits of their partner. To me, that is being against gay rights. That is no different than a man and woman living together and they share medical benefits for the other. The only difference I know of is if the girlfriend becomes pregnant by the boyfriend and she gets prenatel care for the unborn baby. If that is what you call "prejudiced against gays" then so be it. My definition of "prejudiced" is denying gays as a entire group jobs, housing or loans.
Red Zone 11/05/08
Of course being against gay rights makes you prejudiced against homosexuals. How could it not?

It's like saying, "I'm not sexist, but I don't think woman should be allowed to vote."
Being against gay rights doesn't make you homophobic. I don't have a problem with gays as I've worked with some. I don't believe that they should have the same benefits as hetrosexual couples.
Pitt - You say you're only 19 and refuse to disclose your race or job. Your age now says that you were only 12 at the time of 9/11. You may have watched the news coverage from your middle school or at home. You don't have the connection that people older than you have. You don't have that connection of public service workers killed in destruction of the attacks. You probably didn't feel the anguish of the attacks. You watched us invade a country to suppress terrorism to keep the attacks off our shores. That, my friend, has happened - no successful attacks within the borders of the US.
Red Zone 11/05/08
I never said you hated black people. But from comments you've made, I think you're prejudiced against Muslims and homosexuals.
Speaking of my son.. His elementary school has a 'Invite A Veteran To Lunch' day every year around Veteran's Day. Today I joined him for lunch and they sang the National Anthem and another song..
He is center, in a grey t-shirt.. His best friend is to the left.
So, you think if I was such a racist and a biggot (as some of you would like to believe I am) that I even let my son have an Africa American friend.. Huh? You stereotypical fools!! Pitt, you're the worst.

I'm proud of my boy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofrxAkFaTaY
FLETCH346 11/05/08
Now PITT.. don't think for one minute that I'm afraid of you...

All I did was state an observation. That's like you calling me a 'Racist' for not voting for Obama.

Pal, I really feel sorry for you.. Honestly, I do. I make comments and just because you cannot accept or don't like them.. You resort to name calling.. Like some 19 y/o kid.. Oh, nevermind.. you are just a kid.
Although, my 10 y/o is more of a man than you'll ever be.
FLETCH346 11/05/08
No FLETCH, you're just homophobic.
Some observations.. Ok.. Ive been LMAO all day everytime they show that slobbering fool, Jesse Jackson!!
Also, last night.. every shot they cut too in the audience was that of Homosexuals standing hand in hand.
Did anyone else notice that?
FLETCH346 11/05/08
I'm a firm believer that.. This being a Free Nation.. That, this country will only get worse.. If we let it.
I, for one, will not let that happen.
FLETCH346 11/05/08
Wow, we mustve wore out the MODs these last few days.. Looks like they've taken the day off!!!
LMAO!!!!
FLETCH346 11/05/08
YUP!!
That O~boy is a smooth talker, ain't he?
I did like McCain's concession speech. Good man.
FLETCH346 11/05/08
Fall in line or get out...


Sounds to me like the facism has began already.
Agrippa, I dont have the luxury of 'gettin the **** out..' Its my job to stay in .. Come January I will have a new Commander n Chief... Although, I think now he'll probably let us all sit back and relax while .. nevermind....
BiPartisanship...? Is that what you call it? I call it 'gettin by'.. LOL
Stay tuned. I'm just staying here to watch what you guys have to say when the sh]t hits the fan.
G'night and congrats to the Democratic Party.. CIGARS FOR EVERYONE!!!!! LMAO!!!
FLETCH346 11/05/08
Congrats for you for at least being a little optimistic. Bipartisanship is more crucial than ever.

Fall in line or get the fukkkkk out.
Agrippa GODSON 11/05/08
Agrippa, I've had plenty to say.. you wouldve known this if you hadnt waited until the last hour to show up.
Ive got numerous views.. Most don't agree with PITT's .. but, nonetheless, any of these people can tell you.. Ive been here then, I've been here now.. and I'll still be here.
I pray Obama knows what he's doing. congrats to him
FLETCH346 11/05/08
PITT,
Pro-choice is fine.. up to a point. Aborting a child in the first 2 months is alot different than aborting a child at 8 months (huge difference)

I think his tax plan will surprise you..

I have no issue with Gay rights.. for or against.

I think we need to tap into our resources here in our own Nation so we don't rely on these other Nations who oppose us..

Bringing the troops home early will only make us go back there at a later date.

Obama wanting to get rid of our Nukes (which we solely use as our defense against other rogue nations) ..
Take my word.. We will be overrun with this office...
Our Nation's Security was my main cause of concern.. Now, we'll just wait and see....
FLETCH346 11/05/08
Pitt was right. You say nothing of substance. This bores me. Im out. Yeah Pitt you are right. Those McCain supporters have no class and know nothing about bipartisanship . Expect a lot of that the next 4 years. Then 4 more
Agrippa GODSON 11/05/08
Obama's supporters applaud McCain.

McCain supporters boo Obama.
No, not 'cliche'..
Just experience.
Think about me what you want..
I have knowledge and experience that neither of you don't.
If someone right out of high school has experienced more than I have and knows more than me.. HA! So be it and have at it..Good luck.
FLETCH346 11/05/08
I think nothing of you Fletch. You are smart.
Agrippa GODSON 11/05/08
I like that Obama is pro-choice, wants to make taxes more progressive, is mostly for gay rights, doesn't want to "drill baby drill", opposes the Patriot Act, and will begin withdrawing troops from Iraq sooner than McCain will.

Is that enough for you?
Yo
AG, what you think of me means nothing. Talk all you want..
Just be able to back it up when it counts.
FLETCH346 11/04/08
You are right Fletch. Who am I. Who are you?

You are super smart. How did you know I dealt drugs. Never in alleys though. Thats a little cliche....no?
Agrippa GODSON 11/04/08
Agrippa? Huh? LMAO!!Who the he\\ are you?
You show up tonight talkin smack? Go back to your alley bro.. Get back to something you know..
'Dealin'.
FLETCH346 11/04/08
Word for word. I was being facetious earlier but you may be smarter that I thought
Agrippa GODSON 11/04/08
Hey you cant tell Pitt that. Thats what I tell Carolina Girl
Agrippa GODSON 11/04/08
Later, I'm finished debating with you... You know what you've seen on TV and what youve been told.
You haven't been there.. or .. done that.. So, in that aspect.. I am better than you.
FLETCH346 11/04/08
You are right Pitt, Fletch does sound uber intelligent.
Agrippa GODSON 11/04/08
PITT, another questioned I posed to you earlier.. What accomplishment of Obama's has impressed you most? Better yet, which of Obama's issues do you like the most?
The promise of giving you something for nothing, no doubt.

I thought since you were so proud of 'Your Country' that you'd have the balls to fight for it... that's all.

As for the inner city thing..?
I'm good like that.
FLETCH346 11/04/08
Who said I was from an inner-city?
You're ridiculous. Yes, I'm young. That's meaningless. I voted for Obama because I agree with him on the issues.

I could the negative reporting of the war affect me? They don't report the war anymore.

I didn't enlist because I didn't want to. This is what is great about America. I have the freedom to decide how I live my life. Would you rather us be like Russia?

Just because you served does not make you better than me in any way.
Believe me.. A 19 y/o's punkazzz mouth doesnt bother me a bit. I know youre a little piece of inner city trash that don't have the ballz to provide for himself..
So, to me.. Youre a low-life whose words make me laugh but at the same time make me hurl because the likes of me and my fellow troops also have the displeasure of fighting for the rights of the likes of you.
FLETCH346 11/04/08
PITT, I never once predicted a McCain win.. So, you keep rubbin' yourself.
Cuz, it has nothing to do with me.
FLETCH346 11/04/08
PITT, you are only 19 .. So, I will place you into the group that I like to call..
'The TV War Group'
I figured you were young and grew up most of your memorable years with watching, 'War on TV'..
Which has had a negative impact on you. How could it not? The press only reports 98% of the negative results that the U.S. is having in these two wars. Thus, you'd love to see an end to this 'needless war' (you were too young to see a need when it started) And, the economy isn't to blame for the war.
It's your Democratic Senate Majority, who hasn't done a thing in two years, that is to blame.
You didn't enlist because you didn't want too.. That's very admirable!!! Thank you for your
Non-Service..
You rely on other Americans to fight for you but don't dare want to fight for youself..
You, my man, are the dirt I pound on while on my way to provide freedom to this Country...
Thanks for giving me ground to walk on ..
FLETCH346 11/04/08
I'm here to rub it in after putting up with your BS these last few weeks.

How's it feel? You're just a punk that likes to run his mouth. Can't take it when someone runs their mouth right back, eh?
Just a note.. It kind of speaks volumes about you guys who dwell on this Stop Obama Express group when your candidate won..
Freakin' your still here! Do you not belong to a Pro-Obama group or are you just that lonely? LMAO!!
FLETCH346 11/04/08
I assure you FLETCH, "4 & 7" is not nearly as profound as you think it is.
4 & 7,,,, Take note.
FLETCH346 11/04/08
CLICK! HAHAHA
FLETCH346 11/04/08
PITT, you told me exactly and not exactly what you needed .. to make help me draw my conclusions of you.
I thank you for that.
I was semi-feeling guilty for our barbs.. But now.. Not so. I'm not filling guilty whatsoever.
Thanks again for giving me piece of mind. I've been right all along.
God Bless America and I pray I'm wrong about Barack Hussein Obama, my new Commander in Chief.. come Jan.
FLETCH346 11/04/08
That SI FanNation Censorship is a powerful tool..
I think I'm gettin' the hang of it..
Huh, Flat? LMAO!!!!
FLETCH346 11/04/08
I don't have to tell you anything about me. You should me happy I told you anything.
There was no contingency because Obama was expected to win in a landslide. If he hadn't have won, it would be because it was stolen. Hence, the riots.
pitt, no other questions whatsoever..
Your NON-ANSWERS spoke volumes.
Thanks.. I rest my case.
FLETCH346 11/04/08
I guess all the SWAT Teams of the Nation can stand down now.
There was no contingency for a 'McCain Loss' Riot .. Only an Obama Loss.. makes one wonder.. huh?
You idiots don't have access to the intelligence I do, so .. eat sh]t for trying to diss me on this comment.
FLETCH346 11/04/08
Age: 19

Race: No comment

I've never enlisted because i don't want to.

Job: No comment

Any others?
PITT.... IVE BEEN ASKING FOR WEEKS ABOUT WHO YOU ARE, AGE, RACE, WHY YOUVE NEVER ENLISTED, WHAT YOU DO FOR A LIVING.. etc..
Unless youve just 'skimmed' the posts.. I don't really understand why you've missed all the questions.
Maybe blind or half there.. is the answer.
I would be more than happy to divulge any info, publicly, that you might want from me.
FLETCH346 11/04/08
so are you not going to ask me any questions?
PITT, if your 'Dummy' azzz would even read all the questions I've posed to you throughout the last few weeks then you'd know. If you have read them and haven't realized they're questions then you must be half retarded.
Flat, I do fine on my own. I have friends that surround me here.. Just because they aren't posting doesn't mean they're not around..
You guys are so blind... You'll soon have your eyes opened tho.. Your free paycheck for sittin on your azzzz will take a backseat to what's going to happen.
FLETCH346 11/04/08
still waiting on the questions FLETCH...
Flat, PITT and all others who seem to hate me.. LAUGH all you want..
I'll be right here laughing at all of you.
The lights are on and they are shining brighter for the new
ANTI OBAMA Group that you're still a member of.. Welcome!
FLETCH346 11/04/08
It appears to me that all your friends have left you swinging in the breeze by yourself. I guess I would do the same to someone that is spouting the garbage that you have spit out tonight. you are starting to sound a little delusional. LMAO
Flat Mann 11/04/08
Living in Red Cliffs Colorado you have to be of the fair skinned persuasion.
Hail to the Chief..President Obama
I guess my answer is a little vague so I will clarify it for you. I am as white as the driven snow.
This just in, Virginia has gone for Obama.
Flat Mann 11/04/08
What questions do you want me to answer, dummy?
Believe me.. this is the first sad day .. of very many to come.. that America will experience now.
The Terrorists and the leaders of all rogue nations are cheering now.
Why? You'll soon see.
FLETCH346 11/04/08
4 & 7... I'll remind you.
FLETCH346 11/04/08
Well .. it's over.. Not surprising to me..
God Help Us All...
I seriously pray that I'm wrong about this man.. But, I think now.. it's even out of God's hands.
FLETCH346 11/04/08
Flat, you keep using the term, 'Rednecks'..
I'd be interested to know if you or PITT are African American. Are you?
FLETCH346 11/04/08
Flat and PITT.. keep these numbers in mind.. LAUGH IF YOU WANT..
I'll be the one laughing at you in the end..
4 and 7.. keep those numbers in mind and I will revisit them for you.
Good luck to you and your families.
Flat, I'm happy to see your significant other realized what a mistake it was.. Unless, HE just left you for someone better looking..
LMAO.. You guys are right.. Im laughing at myself right now!!!
FLETCH346 11/04/08
PITT, until you are ready to answer the questions I've posed to you numerous times..
You will not be awknowledged here.
Flat, I thought you shut the door and left yesterday? You can't seem to leave, huh?
Comedy? You want comedy? If Obama wins you'll see comedy... And, I'll be right here watching, laughing and making fun of all you SOBs..
FLETCH346 11/04/08
Sad to say, there is no wife. You are funnier than Comedy Channel
The skin will peel Ha Ha Ha You are a funny guy. That must be classified info from the same guy that was going to help McShame catch Bin Laden. LOL
If he is a true patriot, he will tell us how to catch him now as he said he could get him if he was elected.
The last time I had this much fun was when the hogs ate little Willy. LOL
Flat Mann 11/04/08
Keep talking FLETCH. I'm getting free comedy!
Who is yellin' ?? I'm just stating that we will be here from here on out.

Flat, your Father mustve yelled at you as a child.. Or, your wife must yell at you to get off your azzzz and get job.. To even think I'm yellin at you..
I seriously hope that one of you get wrapped up in something that's coming to this country in the next 4 months.
You think you know pain?? You don't know pain until you watch your skin peel off of your body while you watch.. (No threats.. Just info from what I know) ...
If Obama gets into Office.. All you Dems and the rest of us need to pray for us all.
Thank God I live in some small town state that doesnt mean sh]t...
FLETCH346 11/04/08
Spent the day driving people to the polls in Red Cliff Co. The most effective two words to guarantee an Obama vote were President Palin
Flat Mann 11/04/08
Please stop yelling, we can hear you loud and clear. Like I said before, you don't like the way things are going and you resort to name calling. that is not a Republican trait but it is a redneck proclivity. CLICK
Flat Mann 11/04/08
haha. You're hilarious FLETCH!

Say some more stuff!
There's no such thing as a 'Stupid Republican'
Not like that of a G*a*y Democrat, mind you.
FLETCH346 11/04/08
HAHA FLETCH. It's like you're doing an impression of a stupid Republican.

Are you?
LIGHTS ARE ON AND STAYIN ON FOLKS!!!!
YOU F*A*G*S THAT WANT TO STAY MEMBERS SO I CAN REMIND YOU HOW YOU SCREWED THIS NATION.. By all means.. please do so.. If not.. run with your little Liberal Tails Between Your Legs!
FLETCH346 11/04/08
If you Idiot Flaming Democrats think you control the 'flick' (your queer-term for turning of a light switch) of this group.. Youre so sadly mistaken. PITT, believe me, I haven't given your Liberal Azzz a 2nd thought.. Youre not worth it.. Obviously, since you cannot seem to answer any questions I aske you..
FLAT, I've come to the conclusion that you're just a washed up 'has been' that thinks he will benefit from Obama's lies. You and your wife are probably hoping that this new health care plan will cover Viagra and Cialis for ya!!!! LMAO!!!!
Knowing Obama.. it probably will.. So, he can OK to abort the babies around the 7-9 month term.
FLETCH346 11/04/08
CLICK; that's the light switch being turned off. Kerry and Gore romped in Calif, Oregon and Wash. If Obama takes these he is over the 270. We don't even need Hawaii.
CLICK
Flat Mann 11/04/08
he's not the prez for three more months so chill and hush
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 11/04/08
FLETCH, I don't give a damn what you think of me. Obama is the president of my country and I couldn't be happier.

Ohio went to Obama. it's officially over.
"I sincerely hope the national news broadcasts aren't being aired in states that the polls haven't closed yet. That could affect some of the voters who haven't voted yet."

Florida wouldn't have even been close in 2000 if they hadn't called it for Gore early while the polls in the pan handle, which is in the central time zone and is mostly republican,
were still open. People literally left the lines and went home thinking it was over.
C-C-C 11/04/08
SPECIAL CHECK FOR THE SPECIAL PEOPLE.. that's what Obama's 'Spread the Wealth' Is All About..
FLETCH346 11/04/08
Pitt, Yes.. yes.. yes.. I know I'm a 'Moron' in your eyes.. But, better to be a 'moron' than a limp wristed piece of liberal dung as you.
You'll get your special check for being a deadbeat.. like all your friends, no doubt.
FLETCH346 11/04/08
If there is rioting.. I invite all to take a look at WHO is doing th rioting.
Everyone accuses me of being a biggot and racist?? My reply....
'Please niggggggga.. cuz, I'm the blackest white man in WV... ' Just ask my bros. I didn't vote McCain because the other man was a different color.. I voted McCain because he's the safest, most secure and smartest choice for the Nation today.
FLETCH346 11/04/08
PITT, FK U AND YOUR LIGHTS.. THESE LIGHTS ARE STAYING ON TO REMIND YOU AND ALL THE OTHERS OF THE MISTAKES YOU MADE IN THE COMING YEARS .. If that sadazzz gets office.. If he does.. Check back often because there will be updates out the azzzzzz.. As this Nation goes down the crapper.
FLETCH346 11/04/08
I sincerely hope the national news broadcasts aren't being aired in states that the polls haven't closed yet. That could affect some of the voters who haven't voted yet.
Red Zone 11/04/08
Some don't need a reason to riot. In some cities, there could be angry rioting or celebratory rioting. It won't make a difference either way.
Red Zone 11/04/08
He needs to win all the must wins states and upset in Colorado.

And that's just to TIE.
I'm already crying.

He did wen PA. Oh my goodness. But anything can happen. Less than half the states are even reporting yet.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 11/04/08
It's all over but the crying.
Um. Hello. And how many are reporting?? 7%. PLEASE!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 11/04/08
PA went Obama. It's over. The last one out, turn off the lights.
Interesting time to stop updating the electoral vote tally...
21-3 McCain
13-3 McCain now
Let's start praying!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 11/04/08
Score 300+ for Obama
Score 8 for McCain
all non-ACORN members are currently voting, hold on Nobamania.
WHAT THE HECK????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

I POSTED A "VOTE" BLOG AT 9:54. IT'S 11:46 AND IT'S GONE.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 11/04/08
Im ruffling feathers left and right.. LMAO!!! I've got people I've never heard of attacking me now..
Funny story........ I called work to check on some orders for an upcoming deployment and the guy I was talking too said..'Hey, McCain is behind right now but he's making a comeback..' I said.. 'Well, all the Republicans are out working right now and the freeloading Democrats who don't have jobs have made it to the polls early.. Just wait until the working class gets off and we'll see what the numbers say then.. ' LMAO!!
FLETCH346 11/04/08
We are ruffling some feathers!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 11/04/08
Eventually the CNN part of SI would catch up to this group...looks like it finally happened.
SI FANNATION HAS PUNK A*S*S*S*S BIT*C*H*E*S WORKIN' FOR THEM!!!! DEMWHIT POOOOOOOOOSAYS!!!! CAN YA HEAR ME SI AND DEMWHITS!?!?!? CAN YA!?! CAN YA!?!?
I smell a McCain COMEBACK!!!!!!!
Flat, you suck, PITT, you blow !!!!!
Ya'll make a great Democratic Team!
FLETCH346 11/04/08
I am very sad to hear of Barack's grandmother passing away.

may she rest in peace.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 11/03/08
LMAO. Great kid.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 11/03/08
STORY: My son brought home a 'Scholastic News' handout from school. On the front is a picture of McCain and one of Obama.
He drew a Halo around McCain's head and a a set of Horns on Obama.
Pretty funny how a 10 year old has a better perception than the majority of America.
FLETCH346 11/03/08
NOTE: I've got information from a very reliable Law Enforcement source that Cities are planning for Riots if Obama loses.
ANOTHER NOTE: What does that say about the Obama supporters?
I'm 100% sure that if McCain loses there will be no rioting.
FLETCH346 11/03/08
It seems FanNation, in these last hours, has blocked our ability to post Articles.
FLETCH346 11/03/08
Thank God.. I never thought you'd leave..
It only seems there are two 'of you' who are commenting...
Losing steam are ya?
FLETCH346 11/03/08
Parting is such sweet sorrow, but I must move on. It has been a pleasure meeting you. Lately only 4 people are posting but that is to be expected. Well, I guess Grumpy and Dopey will head back to Arizona and Alaska after tomorrow. Would the last redneck out the door turn off the lights. BYE BYE
Flat Mann 11/03/08
The Obama vote....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdcncIoawE8&feature=related

Thank God these kids probably aren't old enough to vote.. But, I think this is what we have coming out of the woodwork to vote for him...
FLETCH346 11/02/08
She must be at Elmendorf AFB. I've been there a few times. It's beautiful up there.
I was just there about 8 monts ago on my way to the Phillipines. INTEL is a good position to have in the USAF.
FLETCH346 11/02/08
Welcome to our 61st member, EncinoMan.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 11/02/08
She's stationed in Alaska. Works in intelligence, don't know the official title. Not sure yet if she's going to be deployed or sent to officer school first half of next year.
C-C-C 11/02/08
CCC, the point is.. You tried to enlist. You had the desire and took the initiative.. That's more than a lot can say....
BTW, what's your daughter's AFSC (job) and where is she stationed?
FLETCH346 11/02/08
A huge salute for you and your family, CCC!!!!
Pitt, one shouldn't have to be forced to serve the country, they supposedly, love.
Everyone has their reasons or not for enlisting.. But, the reason I post this question is.. You run your mouth quite a bit and I was just seeing if you had enough a*s*s to back it up.. which you don'.t
CCC's daughter has bigger cahones than you brother!!! LMAO!!!!
FLETCH346 11/02/08
Lol. Sorry to disappoint, Pitt. I'm too old to have tried to enlist after don't ask don't tell.

Nope. With me it was that I was legally blind without corrective lenses. That was during Desert Storm. My dad was because he was missing a finger. That was, as stated, during 'Nam.

My daughter, of course, enlisted during Iraqi Freedom.

Both of my grandfather fought in WWII as did their brothers.

Nobody can accuse my family of trying to shirk their duties to this country.
C-C-C 11/02/08
CCC, did you get turned away because you forgot about the "don't tell" part of don't ask, don't tell?
"PITT, I'd love for you to put your mouth on the line and enlist.. But, I doubt the Military would even accept you... "

This one I'll call unfair. I myself attempted to enlist and was turned away. Same with my father during 'Nam.

My daughter is USAF, though, so I get a chuckle every time some lib tells me 'why don't you send your own children off to fight?'
C-C-C 11/02/08
Why do I have to enlist? To force me to enlist would be un-American.
PITT, I'd love for you to put your mouth on the line and enlist.. But, I doubt the Military would even accept you...
FLETCH346 11/02/08
Carolinagirl.. don't worry about what those Homoluvin Dems think about ya.. We love ya!!
FLETCH346 11/02/08
LMAO!! A TERROIST GROUP!?!?!? We are the most 'Red Blooded Americans' that there are on FN... and he's calling this group a 'Terrorist Group'... Being a Military Man I take total Offense to his slander.
He's just a roadtrip away from me.. and he knows it.
FLETCH346 11/01/08
LMAO!!! He's a definite danger to himself!!!
How about that Texas Tech... They showed up tonight!!! Love the underdog!
FLETCH346 11/01/08
"Im sure ol DC Numbnutz and his empty 'Oh, just wait til Friday' promises probably have something to do with it...
CCC, I didn't even get to read it.. That sucks.... "

Lol, he's done that blog a few times. Apparently the first time he did it and it was deleted. The second time was hilarious...he claims Time-Warner is in the tank for McCain because they are censoring him. ;-)

http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/282175

The third one is equally funny:

http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/282616

In that one he goes so far as to call SOE a 'terrorist group' and promises to 'expose' anyone who associates with this group.
C-C-C 11/01/08
To be honest.. In the last week I've changed my share of people's minds about who the RIGHT CANDIDATE is...
FLETCH346 11/01/08
LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE!!!! If they're getting deleted then we must be pushing some buttons. Like in NASCAR.. As long as we are making people make noise.. it's all good.
FLETCH346 11/01/08
Im sure ol DC Numbnutz and his empty 'Oh, just wait til Friday' promises probably have something to do with it...
CCC, I didn't even get to read it.. That sucks....
FLETCH346 11/01/08
This is the most retarded thing I've seen in a while. **** the left wing mods of FN, i've had enough.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 11/01/08
Unbelievable. There was absolutely nothing in that last blog I wrote that justifies it being removed.
C-C-C 11/01/08
Alright. Who is the democrat in this group voting in the group poll like that?
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 11/01/08
TYPICAL OF A DEMOCRAT.. then leave and don't return until you can answer the question.
Question: Do all Democrats turn tail and run when confronted with a question they either can't or are afraid to answer??
Back in the day it was the 'Draft Doger' nowadays it's the 'Question Dodgers'.
#1, youve never answered the age question.
#2 youve never answered when or why you haven't enlisted
#3 you can't answer the question,
If I authored a book titled,
'The Post-Pitt World' .. What thoughts would enter your mind?
I'm an open book bro.. ask me anything and I'll give you the answer.
The difference between you and me is.. I have nothing to hide and you have nothing to say!
FLETCH346 10/31/08
You're not worth my time.
Zakaria argues that a "post-American" world order is beginning, in which the role of the United States of America will be diminished, but not irrelevant. Economic, diplomatic, and social power is rising in the rest of the world, a phenomenon he calls the "Rise of the Rest".
Ok.. I looked it up to please you Pitt.. Seems my synopsis of the title was dead on...
Obama must be preparing himself.
FLETCH346 10/31/08
Did I ever say the words, 'Anti American' Pitt? You guys and your Democratic Hocus Pocus!!!! I don't need a brief overview to figure out what the title means.
The title to me is that of a world after American superiority. One person's view of what it would be like.
Why would any American want to even imagine that?
Instead of leveling your 'biggotry' inuendos at me.. Why don't you answer the question I pose in my previous comment?
Buddy, I'm the furthest thing from a Biggot that you get.
One of my best friends and fellow Raven Team Member is African American, my son's best friend is African American, his parents, who happen to be a bi-racial couple (man, African American, woman, caucasion) who are staunch Obama supporters all get along great. They are Team parents of my Soccer Team and we, just this week all went together Trick or Treating and my son's friends birthday party.. So, don't sit there and ASSume you know me.. Because you seriously, DO NOT.
FLETCH346 10/31/08
Did I ever say the words, 'Anti American' Pitt? You guys and your Democratic Hocus Pocus!!!! I don't need a brief overview to figure out what the title means.
The title to me is that of a world after American superiority. One person's view of what it would be like.
Why would any American want to even imagine that?
FLETCH346 10/31/08
FLETCH, instead of making assumptions, why don't you read the book? Or at least read a review or synopsis of the book.

Assuming a book is Anti-American because the author is a Muslim makes you a bigot.
Who's eyes are really open?
LMAO !!! Carolinagirl.. nevermind my last FanMail..
Pitt, I see things with my eyes opened.. You see them with your eyes wide shut...
I'm sure with his Muslim Heritage that it's well within the norm to be reading a book titled, 'Post-American World'...
If I authored a book titled,
'The Post-Pitt World' .. What thoughts would enter your mind?
FLETCH346 10/31/08
AHHH, and of course.... The truth is censored again.. Don't you love this Liberal FanNation Site!!!!???!!!
FLETCH346says VOTE McCain. 10/31/08

Eh, I stopped writing blogs entirely for that reason. Anything critical of Obama doesn't last an hour these days. What do you expect from a CNN controlled site?
C-C-C 10/31/08
The truth, FLETCH?

The truth is that he read a book from a highly respected author. If you honestly think that's a problem, you're too far gone.

http://tinyurl.com/6et6v2
this has got to stop. im emailing them again.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 10/31/08
AHHH, and of course.... The truth is censored again.. Don't you love this Liberal FanNation Site!!!!???!!!
FLETCH346 10/31/08
HAPPYY HALLOWEEN!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 10/31/08
Welcome to our 60th member, DEVO (SPUD)
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 10/31/08
I wonder who Obama called when the 'complicated' matter in Georgia occurred?
I'd say nobody.. Since he he was going to let the UN, where Russia has veto powers (Duh), take care of it.. That's probably when he realized .. "Hey, I'm totally inexperienced and don't know what the he\\ I'm doing.. So, I better start asking everyone around me...."
FLETCH346 10/31/08
In Massachusetts, ret"ah"ded is a compliment
thanks to me for the new poll!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 10/30/08
This has to hurt
Flat Mann 10/30/08
So we are going to get a 3rd term of Slick Willy? I see the Apocalypse.
FIRST, check out the new BLOG.. Second, did you see Bill Clinton stumping for Obama today!?!?! OMGosh, he made Obama look like an idiot.. Clinton said,
"When word came out about the bailout... Obama called me, he called Hillary he called this and he called that.. Saying, 'this is too complicated!!! What should I do? Someone please help me understand!!'" Clinton went on to give Obama kudos for asking what to do!?!? Uh BOY!!!
FLETCH346 10/30/08
Why do people in the rural areas of America want Obama so much? According to CNN polling, small town Americans want Obama as president. With this being the Clinton News Network, I highly doubt that polling accuracy, but even if it were accurate, did these people forget about Obama's assault on the earlier this year when he said, "Small town Americans are clinging to their guns"
The Racist Reverand Wright Video that Obama doesn't want you to see..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJlc-RmCLbQ&sdig=1
FLETCH346 10/30/08
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30157939&id=1560990102#/photo.php?pid=30157948&id=1560990102

Look at pictures 10 and 11 in this...notice a theme with Obama and the symbol of freedom?
I'm quickly learning that someone in this group, albeit a Democrat, doesn't want the truth getting out there.
Keep censoring my BLOGS.. That's perfectly fine. I think we should all be ready to be censored and have our rights stomped on come January if BO gets into Office.
FLETCH346 10/30/08
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/243017


Guess the person on the left (coincidence???) cannot find anything to say about Obama that supports his claim as of the first arguement.
The only thing we learn from new elections is we learned nothing from the old election.
Flat Mann 10/29/08
Welcome to our 60th member, Ponder This
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 10/29/08
That is funny as he11
OMGOSH!!! I DONT CARE IF YOUR REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT.. THIS IS HILARIOUS!!! I do think this is one thing we can all come to an agreement on....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmpOtrLf-Is
FLETCH346 10/28/08
Happy Birthday to #1 Gamecock!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 10/28/08
JOKE OF THE DAY.. OR MAYBE THE ENTIRE MONTH!!!!

Steveo16220 CLAIMS THAT OBAMA SERVED IN THE MILITARY FOR 6 YEARS!!!!!!!!!! LMAO!!!
Now, my friends, THAT'S FUNNY!!!
You can read his post on my lastes BLOG...
FLETCH346 10/28/08
Well, this Ol' W.V. Redneck just bought his first 12ga. shotgun.. Courtesy of my current Freedom and Rights to Keep and Bear Arms.
FLETCH346 10/28/08
The current definition is this:
The dictionary defines a hate crime as "any of various crimes... when motivated by hostility to the victim as a member of a group (as one based on color, creed, gender, or sexual orientation).
FLETCH346 10/28/08
Aren't all crimes hate crimes? Are they not committed out of hatred?
***** = H*O*M*0*S
FLETCH346 10/28/08
Let me get this right... Two **** can hang an effigy of Sarah Palin by a noose on the front of their house and it's perfectly fine.. But, IF, I were to hang an effigy of Barack Obama from a noose out in front of my house.. It would be a 'hate crime'.. Or, I guess it would be perfectly fine if my effigy was that of a white man, with big ears and an Obama nameplate... What has America come too!?!?
Before you Liberals jump all up my azzzz... I don't condone an effigy of any woman, man or child being hung by a noose... No matter what their race.
FLETCH346 10/28/08
LMAO!!! Joe Biden is doing everything in his power to get McCain elected...
FLETCH346 10/28/08
Welcome to our 60th member, Cheezhead4life
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 10/27/08
Wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't. He'd just be following the foot steps of other Democrat presidents that violated traditions that Washington set.
If he does.. He'll have his other hand behind his back with his fingers crossed.
FLETCH346 10/27/08
I wonder if Obama does become president, will he take the oath on the Bible and at the end say, "So help me God"
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time
This is one of the many additions to the Constitution in regards to who is and who isn't a citizen.
This one applies to who IS a citizen.
Flat Mann 10/26/08
All tied up, looks like the Supreme Court will have to decide this one...
Why won't Obama prove his Citizenship?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyspCRmJv7w
FLETCH346 10/26/08
http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/279576
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 10/26/08
LOL. I was trying to add something fun to our group... :). Vote for yourself if u want...I have not voted yet though..
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 10/26/08
Oh, now, that Poll cracks me up.. Can I vote for myself?.. Just to ensure I don't get a big zero.... LMAO!!
FLETCH346 10/26/08
LMAO!!! ANOTHER BLOG OMITTED. Just like any Liberal... They don't want the truth coming out.
The latest blog was about how Obama and The Dems want to tax everyone's 401K... People who plan are responsible and plan ahead for retirement are going to get taxed for being smart.. As to 'spread the wealth' to the welfare recipients and lazy azzzes of the Nation.. The one's who do not see the importance of Financial Planning for the future...
FLETCH346 10/26/08
How can the Dems screw this election up?

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20080923/POLITICS-US-USA-POLITICS-POLL/
I love that last phrase from Pitt...somebody doesn't watch the news. If you did, you would know that conservatives are banding togethern behind McCain (the lesser of two evils as we claim) AND Obama's lead is slimming. Now, before you continue to take shots at Palin, lets talk about Biden and how the Obama camp has shut him up from saying anything.
Who is the creator of this group?
Pitt Panther is Don Draper 10/25/08

ME
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 10/26/08
Political Science Lesson, How to lose an election. The following are comments from conservative pundits about Sara Palin. " a fatal cancer to the Republican Party" (David Brooks) " a symptom and expression of a new vulgarization in American politics" ( Peggy Noonan)
" doesn't know enough about economics and foreign policy to make Americans comfortable with a President Palin" ( Kathleen Parker)
A Pew Research Center Survey this week showed that Palins unfavorable rating has doubled since mid-september, from 27% to 50% among Independant voters.Obama has a 22% rating among Conservatives which is 7 points more than Kerry in 2004. The Conservatives believed that Joe the Plumber would persuade working class voters that politics that were tilted in favor of priviliged were designed with Joe in mind. It isn't working, thus many Conservatives are turning on each other.
Finally, Colin Powell says that the Republican Party has become "narrower and narrower"
he had to remind the faithful that Muslims serve this country too, love this country too and die for this country. That in a nutshell is part of why McShame is losing this election.
Some others in danger of losing their elections are Dole , Coleman, Stevens and maybe McConnell.
Flat Mann 10/25/08
Who is the creator of this group?
Flat, yes, I'm a single Father and my son and I communicate quite well, thank you. Being involved in his school, homeroom Dad, PTO Rycycling Co-Ordinator and fund raising helper, his Soccer coach and basketball coach and all around best friend.. I don't think he and I have communication problems whatsoever.
What you perceive as 'rants and raves' pales in comparison to what my 'rants and raves' could be... It's beyond me where I've attacked you, been violent or vicous.. LMAO!!!
I can only imagine what type of control freak your wife thinks you are... Trying to manipulate others with your words and demeanor (You kinda remind me of Obama and how he speaks)
And, behold, this Peach and Prosperity that comes across this great Nation if Obama is elected
....... Oh my....... Like I have said and like Biden, his V.P. (Who happens to have been put on a verbal leash by the Obama camp now) has predicted.. This man will be put to the test within his first 6 monts.. I believe I made those very statements only months before Biden..
If you think an act, on American soil, that makes 9/11 pale in comparison is 'Peace and Prosperity' then, brother.. I don't know what world you're living in, but... As we all know.. there will be nothing peaceful nor prosperous about it....

I wish I was as half as mean & vicous as you think.... I'd be fighting on UFC 90 tonight...
By the way.. Dick's Sporting Goods was having their Hunting/Outdoor tour in town and McCain supporters were out in force.. I have a bumper sticker I'll send you.. since you're a big ol hunter..
'Sportsmen for McCain'....
How can such a mean, vicous redneck like myself not even be a hunter?
FLETCH346 10/25/08
346 Iguess you missed the whole point of my posts, not once did I
Peace and Prosperity get vicious as you have. I was throwing a few shots, mainly in jest and you react very strongly. I guess you are a little too wrapped up in this contest. Good natured jest is one thing but rants and raves only show a lack of communication skills. I would hope if you have children, you set a better example for them.
I have to run out now and buy the
gun you told me to get.being a hunter, I have a few guns but if you think I need another one. O.K.
Peace and Prosperity are on the horizon. The Global Recession will be fixed in due time.
Flat Mann 10/25/08
Flat, believe me.. It would take more than the likes of you to get under my skin.
The only reason I thought it was you is because you're the only one in here runnin' your pro-Obama piehole... Seems like the lack of activity is mainly due to your Demo buds bailin' on ya..
Flat, believe me, the dirt under my fingernails upsets me more than you..
As for McCain sitting in traffic... At least he was sitting in traffic.. Whereas Obama probably has a chopper whisk him off to each place.. Bless his heart.
FLETCH346 10/25/08
If this group is based off of the website: www.stopobamaexpress.com I am puzzled. Have you seen their homepage?

"It is not negative campaigning to bring up your opponents flaws or short comings, if your opponent pals around with terrorists, AND ITS TRUE, and you bring it up in a campaign, that is not negative campaigning. If you sit in a church for 20 years and listen to a hate filled anti-American, racist preacher, you might get called a racist.

Dang, People, if you step on puppies, or hang out with people that used to step on puppies, you might get called a puppy stomper.

Says something about your judgment.

Although some people could see their candidate actually step on a puppy with their own eyes, and still vote from change and hope, hope and change. Sad really."
It's nice to know that I get under your skin enough for you to blame me for running to the Moderaters. I hate to burst your balloon but I had absolutely nothing to do with that. I read the post and I would NEVER try to take it off the site. I swear to that. You will have to look elsewhere. Did you se where Tom Ridge said " if McShame had picked me and not Palin, we would win Pa. and he would be president"
Oh, and Joe McCain calls 911 in Alexandria Va. and wants to know why HE has to sit in traffic at a drawbridge. POOR BABY. He was told it was a criminal offense to call 911 with that type call. The nerve, it's the old, do you know who I am syndrome. Again, I had nothing to do with trying to delete your posts, I could not stoop to that level.
Flat Mann 10/25/08
I'll happily repost all day..
FLETCH346 10/25/08
WT.F

where are the last 2 blogs posted by fletch recently?????????
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 10/24/08
Flat, let's talk about 'whining' and 'crying'... It seems that's exactly what you're doing everytime you alert the MODs to my BLOGs...
FLETCH346 10/24/08
Anger Mgt.??? Flat, grow a pair, would ya!?!?!?
You and your sheltered life.. you obviously don't know Angry.
FLETCH346 10/24/08
One talks big before the election...if you even know anything about American Politics, polls, especially nation-wide polls, mean absolutely nothing. The popular vote means nothing in America, unless it is a Democracy. Federal elections are a Republic, in other words, your vote elects somebody else to vote for you. While Obama might be 14, 15, or whatever it is now ahead of McCain, in swing states, McCain either leads by a wide margin, or is behind by less than 3 points.
JAubin Good point. I make one comment and it elicits 3 retorts. I think someone might benefit from a little anger management. It worked for John McShame. The sun is shining and all is well in Obamaland.
A little chill in the air but I think it's the McShame gang cooling down.
Flat Mann 10/24/08
'Delete all you want, that's is a sure sign of immaturity and possibly being a spoiled little boy as a child. '
Look in the mirror you Liberal little Beeeyotch!!
FLETCH346 10/23/08
Flat does bring up an interesting point...lets start censorring people who disagree with us, just like the Liberals try to do
FLAT, youve honestly shown your true colors with your last statement.
My friend, Im the type of guy who doesnt even own a football but if he came across one.. Would turn around and give it away to someone who actually had use for it...
I deleted that ONE comment of yours to prove a point.. And, judging by your bothered response.. I proved it quite well.
You have actually single handedly moved yourself to the top of the Cry Baby Liberals in this group.. In one fail swooop.. LMAO!!!!
FLETCH346 10/23/08
Sounds like you've taken your football.. along with everyone else's and horded them for yourself....
No, no one shamed me.. I stated that Obama didn't actualy 'suck' he 'snorts'.. but, that's beside the point.
Sound like the point I proved really ruffled your liberal feathers.. Well, Flat ol boy.. You have made your choice.. So, if the one you chose gets elected you should be ready for all your Constitutional Rights to be violated... You've blown a freakin' gasket over the point I made.. I hope Obama bans all guns before you can get your hands on one ...
FLETCH346 10/23/08
You seem like the type that will take his football and run home if things don't go his way. Delete all you want, that's is a sure sign of immaturity and possibly being a spoiled little boy as a child. I have noticed a TREMENDOUS DROPOFF in activity on this site lately. I guess the fat lady is singing in some states.
I am glad you changed your name to Vote Mccain as the other one was SO IMMATURE. Did someone shame you into changing it or did you get a little more mature.?
DELETE if you must.
Flat Mann 10/23/08
Flat, you sorry SOB... I was merely making a point.. So, how's it feel to get censored??? Huh, sounds to me like youre the one whining now.
Really, how'd it make you feel?

I've had the ability all along to delete posts and comments... After all the crap I've put up with where a few are concerned.. Have I ever deleted any comments? NO!!!! I think I proved my point.. thanks.
FLETCH346 10/23/08
Sob sob; if we get an opinion we dont like, DELETE. Very childish, an absolute sign of someone in the losing camp. LMAO
Michael Savage thinks Mc Shame will end up with a Kia dealership in Serbia or a yak meat store in Mongolia. Now that's funny.
Most of the conservative pundits are throwing in the towel.
Flat Mann 10/23/08
SOB whimper on that Flat.... Huh, where'd your comment go?? Oh my...LMAO!!!!!
Biden sounds scared and has reason to be...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOwb9l0DtRA&sdig=1
FLETCH346 10/23/08
try it one more time
Message boards won't allow you to post imbedded pictures... Looks like FanNation is just trying to get us used to what's coming in an Obama Presidency... Our Constitutional Rights stomped on.....
FLETCH346 10/22/08
Mods must not like it...put it in the message board
Why the fk has my Political Cartoon BLOG been removed twice!?!?!?
FLETCH346 10/21/08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSEaHyzbqTA

FLAT, is that you with the drum?
FLETCH346 10/21/08
Flatt, lemme guess.. You're also registered as'Goofy' as well?
FLETCH346 10/21/08
Yeah, when I was born they took some of my wealth and gave to someone less fortunate.. LMAO!!!
FLETCH346 10/21/08
I just added to total in early voting .
We only have 9 electoral votes but it looks like Obama is going to get them. That was fun today, think I will go vote again tomorrow. Mighty oaks from acorns grow. LMAO
Flat Mann 10/21/08
I received a stimulus package at birth.

Boo-yah!
Flatt.. I dunno.. Why don't you ask your wife what it's like to be with a real man.. then get back with me.
That's where she received her 'stimulus package'.. LMAO!!!
FLETCH346 10/21/08
My stimulus check was donated to a group called, Rednecks for Obama.
Looks like it went for a good cause if the polls are correct.
Even the Goobers are jumping on the band wagon.
I noticed that you capitalized male prostitute, is that a sign of affection?
Flat Mann 10/21/08
PITT, I'm really not that big of a baseball fan.. Just cheer for the Yankees because my son does....
FLETCH346 10/21/08
FLETCH, I see you're also a Yankees fan. I'm a Red Sox fan.

Ruh-roh
OK.. I dont know why that post posted twice.. maybe it was meant to be.. or.. maybe it was due to SI's shittttttttttttttty layout.
FLETCH346 10/21/08
My guess is .. you bought a Male Prostitute,,,, OH.. just kiddin.. don't alrert the MODs.. you jackdemocrat!!
FLETCH346 10/21/08
Flatt... what did did you do with your check?
FLETCH346 10/21/08
CHECK OUT MY LATEST GROUP MESSAGE..
FLETCH346 10/21/08
Bernake was asked today if we were in a recession. His astute answer was, we are in a serious slowdown, if you call it a recession is immaterial. DUH
Now, they are talking about another stimulus check. Oh, that's a great idea, give all the yahoos a check to spend on lottery tickets. The last check they sent out worked real well, didn't it.
Flat Mann 10/20/08
PITT, besides you being a PITT Panther and Me a WV Mountaineer... what else do we have in common??? ROLMFAO!!!!
FLETCH346 10/20/08
True, but, I don't need the man I choose to know a computer inside and out. I need him to know Foreign Policy, Economics, Political Experience, a tough as nails approach and attitude towards anyone wanting to harm the U.S. and someone who won't take crap from anyone or either party.....
FLETCH346 10/20/08
I don't need the President to be a wiz, but he should know the basics. When it comes to computers, McCain is a self-described illiterate.

It's not a big deal, but at this point, both campaigns are going after anything and everything. Just running it up the flagpole, so to speak.
PITT, I think McCain is very capable of using a computer. Tell me, with his cabinet, all his advisors and aides.. How often do you think a President actually uses a computer? Is that how Obama is going to balance the budget?? Use Microsoft Money ?? LMAO!!!!
FLETCH346 10/20/08
You don't think being able to use basic modern technology is important? This is like Teddy Roosevelt not knowing how to use a telephone.
But, I'm sure.. Obama's ability to check his email will make him a better President.. LOL
FLETCH346 10/20/08
Yeah, what am I thinking??? How were Presidents ever affective before computers were invented. Being Tech saavy doesn't mean squat.. Being a Patriot that has morals, values, experience and a clear love for his country means more than being able to use a computer.
FLETCH346 10/20/08
There's a difference FLETCH. One will impact a president's effectiveness, one will not.
Barack Obama has put out an ad that simply reminded us John McCain cannot use a computer.

Well guess what? ... Barack cannot land a jet plane on an aircraft carrier at night.
FLETCH346 10/20/08
What's that QB's nickname?? Cupcake? LMAO!!!
FLETCH346 10/20/08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcdWdBgUBqw
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 10/20/08
I'm not giving up but I do hear that fat lady warming up.. God help us all.
FLETCH346 10/20/08
Bring on the fat lady.
I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message.
Flat Mann 10/20/08
ok fletch. wow. lol.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 10/20/08
Well looks like you guys are behind. Obama is the man
jeevs BS 10/19/08
HAHA. Although I'm voting Obama, I have to admit that's funny.
In keeping in your context, PITT, I would be willing to marry a girl who is only a '7' if she was right for me.. But, if she was a '10' and not for me.. It would just be a one night stand.. No commitments involved. McCain may just be a '7' but, in my book, he's certainly would be better for this country than that '10' from across the room.
I'm afraid if everyone chooses the '10' then that backstabbing sl~t will make us all wish we hadn't 'gone there'...
FLETCH346 10/19/08
Yeah, that was a great speech. To be honest, I'm a bit disappointed with Obama. It's like when you're at a bar and you think you see a 10 from across the room, but when you get closer she's only a 7. I'll still get with this girl, but I was expecting better.
I'll admit during the 2004 Democratic Convention when Obama spoke.. I was very mesmerized by this man... Honestly, I was very interested in this man.. Until I started finding out about his life, history and acquaintances... Then I was like..OH HE\\ NO!!!
FLETCH346 10/19/08
I think today's 70's are yesterday's 50's. I'm going to be realistic here... I'll never give up on McCain until NOV 5th, if he's defeated... which, chances are good he will be...
I seriously hope I'm wrong about this man ... I will keep saying that and saying that... There's something about him I don't trust and I feel he has underlying motives.
FLETCH346 10/19/08
I guess that's a combination of 3 things.
Honestly, even though I'm voting for Obama, I don't think a McCain presidency would be that much worse than an Obama presidency. The one thing that scares me about McCain winning is his old age, his history of health problems, and Sarah Palin.
Just kiddin'.. I know he was present...
At least McCain has had a career in politics and has experience.
FLETCH346 10/19/08
Was Obama even present for the vote on that piece of Legislation?
FLETCH346 10/19/08
Romney? You want that nut job?
Where is Romney when we need him?
Flat Mann 10/19/08
That John McCain is gone, my friend. He is now just your typical Republican politician, and that's sad.
Slim Goodbody 10/19/08
Flat, he's running for president. It's no longer about what is right, it's about what will get you elected.
What has happened to John McCain? His Senate career was built on low taxes low spending and war on earmarks.
Suddenly he votes to give secretary of Treasury 750 Billion that ended up as a partial Government takeover of the banking system. This appears to be a semi-socialist handout to wasteful financiers. Let's not mention the earmarks that were in this debacle that he voted for. Where has the John McCain I knew gone .
Flat Mann 10/18/08
Sydney, ... Slim.... what a comparison that is....
FLETCH346 10/18/08
Ha!! Look at what each has accomplished in their respective lives.. And, no matter how you compare it.. Obama and his whole life has been pretty much that of a pansy.
FLETCH346 10/18/08
Yeah, Hussein is quite a middle name.

But hey, John McCain's middle name is SIDNEY! Haha, girl's name.
Slim Goodbody 10/18/08
I do agree with Obama about when he was given the middle name, 'Hussein' Presidential aspirations were definitely not being thought about...
I could probably think of one or two other aspirations his Father had for him...
FLETCH346 10/18/08
McCain was funnier.. Obama was so self absorbed and sure of himself it was almost sickening.
One bad thing about him?? 'He's too awesome."? Only an **** would say that..
Remember when Obama agreed to accept Federal Funding for his campaign, along with McCain.. Then, lo and behold, he proved he's a liar.. More of the same if that fat biotch sings the wrong tune.
FLETCH346 10/18/08
Did anyone else see that Presidential Roast? Hilarious. Barack Obama is a funny man.

And I have seen the fat lady, she is getting ready.
Slim Goodbody 10/18/08
Could some one tell me why McCain was sitting in N.Y. at the Smith dinner and schmoozing up to the biggest bunch of thieves and liars Smith brings back memories of Tammany Hall and CORRUPTION.
What is this guy thinking, a lot of people still think, guilt by association.
Chicago Tribune, never endorsed a Dem. in 161 years, L.A. Times, last endorsed a Dem in 1972 and they both go for B H O.
Hark, I think the fat lady is warming up.
Flat Mann 10/18/08
Saw a pretty funny bumper sticker today..
"10 Out of 10 Terrorists Support Barack Obama" Then, I started thinking to myself.. 'That is 100% true! Why would any Terror Organization want McCain in Office .. Full well knowing they'd have an arse whoopin' comin' when they stepped out of line.'
Heck, even Hamas has stated they are hoping Obama gets in Office. How can any American side with the likes of that?
FLETCH346 10/18/08
CCC, that happened to me with the Partial Birth Abortion topic... I reposted and it stayed.. I don't know if someone is screwing around or if it's a bug in this idiotic new layout....
FLETCH346 10/18/08
Wonder why the Obama tax plan blog I posted last night is gone.
C-C-C 10/18/08
Better yet, I would like to see how many of the 18-21 year olds who say they are going to vote for Obama really will vote.
I'd like to see a poll on how many 18-21 year olds are voting for Obama.... In my opinion, if Obama wins this election it will be the inexperienced electing the inexperienced.
FLETCH346 10/17/08
NOW, THAT WAS FUNNY!!!! NBC Nightly News.. 'Obama has been advertising on video games, Madden and Burn Out... Not to be outdone.. McCain started advertising inside MRI machines...'
YES, I'm a diehard McCain supporter but even I can laugh at something pointed towards McCain..
FLETCH346 10/17/08
CCC, I can take a hint.. LMAO!!! I think I'll tie one blog into another that I have been holding onto... Everyone instantly thinkgs negatively about a draft... i'll blog on it...
FLETCH346 10/17/08
Someone should do a blog on reinstating the draft. The debate would be great. Most of the kids around here don't realize why it existed to begin with...
C-C-C 10/17/08
Yeah, I know it wouldn't be too popular but it would fill the need to bolster our Homeland Defense, help humanitarian needs in countries like Africa and at the same time keep troop Combat Readiness at a good level....
Like I said before.. merely a thought.
FLETCH346 10/17/08
I'm not complaining, I'm just saying, do you know how unpopular reinstating the draft would make a president? I think Bush's approval rating would have actually dropped into the negatives.
Slim Goodbody 10/16/08
Not me, I'm registered for the draft...ready to go if the call is needed
Slim, you'll love my next blog when I'm allowed to post it....
FLETCH346 10/16/08
Slim, it's just an idea so don't get scared and get your pantyhose in a bunch.. I seriously doubt anyone would pay attention to anything I've said..
Like I said.. just an idea.. No worries on me enacting it tomorrow..
Don't know you but I'd say your a tad too old for the draft anyway.
FLETCH346 10/16/08
Slim, I think you forget about how close reinstating the draft came after 9/11. At least my plan gives a clear cut choice as to whether you chose a Combat position or a Homeland Defense/Humanitarian position.
FLETCH346 10/16/08
Force? Why should anyone HAVE TO be forced to serve their country?
My plan gives a clear choice that could only help America... I knew I'd have people calling this an atrocity but I think it would straighten most of these latch key kids out today and give everyone a sense of pride and respect for this great country.
FLETCH346 10/16/08
Reinstate the draft? What? Are you kidding me? The only way I could possibly see reinstating the draft would be if there was a war where the actual United States is in danger, and that is most certainly not the case. The draft is a horrible, horrible thing that forces people into doing something that is unnecessary and can be against someone's morals. The draft would solve nothing right now.
Slim Goodbody 10/16/08
<handshake> deal.
FLETCH346 10/16/08
It's alright FLETCH. No worries. Let's just move on.
Also, I never once meant that I was better than you.. I don't think I'm any better than anyone else..But, I do think a member of this Country's Military has a greater appreciation and respect for this country than people who haven't or don't serve. Dont misconstrue that comment.. I don't doubt anyone's respect and appreciation of this country I'm just saying that to a mil troop, it runs a little deeper.. I happen to think everyone should serve....
If it were up to me I'd reinstate the draft but give everyone an option... 2 or 4 years... For those who chose to serve for 2 years .. they would be used for Homeland Defense and Humanitarian Missions... For those who chose 4 years, they would be tasked with Combat Missions, if needed...... Just a little plan I came up with that I think would do this Nation a world of good.. Plus, it gives everyone a choice if Combat isn't their thing....
FLETCH346 10/16/08
Yeah, PITT, I read it.. And, CCC is right. I apologize to you , PITT, and to everyone else I've annoyed, except DC... With my heartfelt emotional rants on this subject.. I promise to try and keep my emotions in check and I ask for the same in return.. ie.. names and such. ....thanks
FLETCH346 10/16/08
How exactly is Fletch a moron again?
It's official. FLETCH is a moron.
PITT, Well, give yourself a pat on the back because that's all you'll get from your little comment..
FLETCH346 10/16/08
FLETCH, that thing you posted "from the Michigan state police" is total BS. I left a comment on it.
LET'S GET READY TO RUUUUMBLE!!!
FLETCH346 10/15/08
Condi Rice, can't be racist or sexist with this canidate.
Welcome all new members!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 10/15/08
This debate should be better than 'The Thrilla' In Manilla'... LMAO!!
FLETCH346 10/15/08
Colin Powell for me, thanks. And, for those of you who think i'm racist.... This should definitely debunk that theory.
FLETCH346 10/15/08
If I was to vote for any third party canidate, it would be Bob Barr
Why don't we all just agree to disagree and vote for Nader on November 4?
Slim Goodbody 10/15/08
I heard something today that dumbfounded me.. With the state this Nation is in ... A guy was being interviewed.. he was undecided and asked if he was going to watch the debate tonight.... His response.....'No, the baseball playoffs are on.....'
That's one of the things that is wrong with society in this Nation.
FLETCH346 10/15/08
Let me let you in on something Slim.. Terror Cells are like cockroaches.. You go to Afghanistan and wipe out a couple of cells and the other cells immediately move to another area. Cells work independently of one another.. One not knowing the breakdown or the missions of other cells. But, they all have the same cause... .To wipe the infidel (Westerners) from the face of the Earth. So, let me reassure you that these Al Queda Terror cells or the Taliban is not secluded to just Afghanistan.
FLETCH346 10/15/08
Slim, buddy ol pal, I guess you plain looked right over the post telling you in plain English that the #2 Al Queda Operative met Allah, regards to the US Military, in Baghdad, Iraq.. Not in the mountains of Afghanistan.
FLETCH346 10/15/08
Probably the only thing President Bush has done good in his term has been Afghanistan. There has not been a single terrorist attack here since 9/11 and the effort there is barely costing us any money (we spend more money in Iraq in one week than we have in our whole time in Afghanistan). But this has absolutely nothing to do with Iraq, and anyone who thinks it is is incredibly ignorant.
Slim Goodbody 10/15/08
I decided to change my Profile name.. too negative.. Plus, O man doesn't suck.. He snorts... LMAO!!!
FLETCH346 10/15/08
And, I think that would be a CHANGE that no one wants. Just remember how many plots have been foiled under Bush's Presidency and have had ZERO acts of Terror on U.S. soil... keep that in mind for future reference.
FLETCH346 10/15/08
US Military kills #2 Al Queda figure in, WHERE????, Baghdad, Iraq.... Sure, we have no reason for being there whatsoever...... Let's follow Obama's plan, bring the troops home, let Al Queda increase it's strengths in numbers and power and wait for them to come visit us on our turf. That, my friends, is Obama's plan.
FLETCH346 10/15/08
Well, I didn't really care whether you thought it was funny or not.. But, I do care when people place a label on me saying I'm wishing someone's death.
FLETCH346 10/15/08
I'm offended by neither South Park nor Family Guy. I wasn't really offended by your joke, by the way. I just didn't find it at all humorous. Kind of like Carlos Mencia. I don't like because it's not funny, not because I find it offensive.
This man says what the rest of us Republicans are thinking and wished we had more of a platform, other than FanNation, to say....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgwiFOid0gA
FLETCH346 10/14/08
If Obama ends the war in Iraq the day he gets in office and brings the troops home .. Then, we'll be right back within 2-3 years to start all over again.
If Iran is allowed to obtain nukes, which I feel they are closer than people think, then we should have no option. But, you're right, Obama avoided that question in the debate.. He' let Iran try and wipe Israel off the face of the map without doing a thing to help our ally.
The economic tailspin can start with each and every one of us doing our part by not living a Champagne Lifestyle on a Bud Light Budget.
FLETCH346 10/14/08
Obama 357
McCain 181

Just a little standings update.
Slim Goodbody 10/14/08
You guys are scared of Obama? More scared then at least 4 more years of Iraq, more of an economic tailspin, and a war in Iran you would get with John McCain?
Slim Goodbody 10/14/08
PITT, are you and DC offended by South Park and The Family Guy as well??
FLETCH346 10/14/08
Feeling pretty wealthy now, looks like we are all owners of a lot of banks now. Thought that was great until I remembered that guy in Germany nationalized the banks as part of his Master Plan. What is our Government doing and who's going to pay for this. Now, we have some States claiming the money in their Unemployment Compensation Funds is running out. Unemployment is creeping higher and higher.Stop this madness and let me get off this crazy ride. The loans are now being given to anyone, from the looks of it. Banks auto manufacturers etc. The thing that worries me is they have NO Gaurantee any of this will be paid back. Oh, I guess I didn't really want to retire in the future. I can plan to work for the next 30 years.
BE AFRAID...BE VERY AFRAID
We had LBJ, JFK and now BHO
Flat Mann 10/14/08
I think McCain should have said, 'You have a right to be scared.. I'm scared! If Obama is our next President.. we should all be scared.' .... Personally, I will be scared. Me, a man who serves this great country in the USAF will be very scared as to what I see happening if this man is elected.
FLETCH346 10/14/08
Not maybe, it was absolutely counter productive to praise Obama . It was Dumb with a capital D. If people wanted a President with principle, they would never have re-elected Bubba Clinton.
Do you think picking Palin was a principled move or a strictly political move that seems to be back firing?Was just watching polls nationwide and barring a MAJOR shake up, it seems to be OVER
As far as taxes, the money for the bailout which was an unexpected expense has to come from someone and John doesn't want to tax the Fat Cats. It is going to come from the Middle Class.
Flat Mann 10/14/08
Obama's claims that McCain is leaving the middle-class behind cracks me up!!! I'm smack dab middle-class and I don't feel like I'll be left behind. Obama claiming that McCain will raise my middle-income's taxes.. He has done no such thing. Leaving my tax bracket unchanged certainly isn't raising it... I'm no math scholar but I'm sure that 0% of of something equals nothing.
FLETCH346 10/14/08
The problem there, Flat Mann, lies not in what McCain is doing, but in what is expected of politicians these days.

While it was probably counterproductive for McCain to defend Obama at his own rally's, it shows the man character. McCain has never been a 'win at any cost' politician, that's why he lost to Bush in 2000 despite being the FAR better candidate. Tough to attack the guy for being a man of principal when that's precisely what most of us on both sides of the isle claim we WANT in a President.
C-C-C 10/14/08
The wheels are falling off John's campaign.He has no fire left in his belly. I think his problem is that he is a compromiser, he always talks of working across the aisle. This might go back to his time as a POW. He never cracked, was never a traitor but he must have compromised in order to live. He doesn't seem to want to fight, just compromise. McCain- Fiengold and McCain- Kennedy. Compromise compromise,
it's not the way to win.
Flat Mann 10/13/08
All through life I have found Conservatives to be thinkers and Liberals to be emotional types.
Flat Mann 10/12/08
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A top psychiatrist recently stated:

'Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded,' says Dr. Lyle Rossiter, author of the new book, 'The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness.' 'Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave.'
KRB 10/13/08
Welcome our 59th member, Flat Mann
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 10/13/08
All through life I have found Conservatives to be thinkers and Liberals to be emotional types.
The Libs came out of unions and were fighting types and the Repubs came from the Rotary Club.
Observing the back and forth leading up to this election and one doesn't see McCain hitting Obama with anything of substance.
Now, we in the crowds at rallies are telling him what to do. It seems that the yahoo crowd is leading the attack against Obama. we must go after him on other than past friends and such. A little substance please.
The repubs should not let the redneck crowd dictate issues as this will surely lead to an Obama in the WHITE HOUSE
Flat Mann 10/12/08
Slim, I'd be interested in some of the people you have links too.... I guess there's no link between Obama and ACORN either......
FLETCH346 10/12/08
By "the two", I mean Ayers and Obama.
Slim Goodbody 10/12/08
If you think there is any link between Obama and Weather Underground, you are truly an idiot. The two worked together on an anti-poverty project, and Ayers contributed a whopping $200 to Obama's reelection fund. Wow, he must be a terrorist! The two haven't even spoken in a year and half. McCain is using desperate measures in some desperate times, and no one seems to be listening anymore. Obama is pulling away.
Slim Goodbody 10/12/08
There was absolutely nothing offensive about what I wrote. It was 100% factual.
C-C-C 10/11/08
Hm. Funny because when i talked with the mods about a month ago they assured me that none of the SOE blogs would be deleted unless they were very, very offensive.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 10/11/08
Amazing. I wrote a blog on Bill Ayers and it was removed within half an hour.
C-C-C 10/11/08
Welcome to our 57th member.. and 58th ASBEL, welcome buddy...
FLETCH346 10/10/08
Welcome to our 56th member, What Da Bloodclott!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 10/09/08
There's nothing wrong with jumping on the Bama Bandwagon, so long as it has roll tide on it...
GREAT BLOG SPOT!!!
http://whynotbarackobama.blogspot.com/
Spank Williams 10/06/08
Fausto, I just call it like I see it, buddy. Every part of that statement is FACTUAL!!! And, if you don't believe me.. look it up... This tells me you know nothing about the person your backing... You just jumped on the Bama' Bandwagon.
Spank Williams 10/06/08
I have been arrested-DUI
Welcome to our 56th member, The Shamrock!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 10/06/08
Turn on fox news..now! 9:30 est..

It's History of Obama's Radicalist friends.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 10/05/08
Seems like your the one who is bigoted Fausto. Nothing but pure and simple bigotry/
Hmm Fausto. He was raised a Muslim, FACT. He admitted to smoking marijuana and trying cocaine. FACT. So what part of that was not fact based?
Gruden 10/04/08
Congratulations, Spank, your comment about Obama being a Coke smoking Muslim may be the most bigoted and non-fact-based statement I've ever heard.
Did you notice that Palin's American Flag lapel pin was larger than Biden's?
You could tell that Biden had Lapel Pin Envy.. LMAO!!!
Spank Williams 10/03/08
Let's see... One candidate is a Military hero and the other is a pot smoking, coke snorting Muslim.. Yeah, real tough decision.
Spank Williams 10/03/08
In my opinion Palin spoke to the people while Biden spoke over the people.
Biden is just another suit where Palin is down to Earth and practical.
PLUS, BIDEN LIED!! OBAMA HAS SAID He would sit down with Ahmadinejad without any preconditions.. Biden said that Obama has never said that but I've seen the interview..
Spank Williams 10/03/08
My poly science teacher (extremely Liberal) said that Palin wiped the floor with Biden. If a former New Hampshire Rep. said this, and he is extremely Liberal, then I find it hard to believe anybody that would support your claim that Biden killed Palin.
Palin is getting her **** kicked in the debate! Yay for Biden!

FaustoCarmonaFan is Retired 10/02/08

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I'm flipping channels and can't find anyone that supports that statement in the post debate discussion. Independants, skeptics, and democrats are all saying she did very well, and at worst she tied him. Well, a few on CNN said she did badly, but we know that is not reality tv.
KRB 10/02/08
Palin is getting her **** kicked in the debate! Yay for Biden!

God, Palin is a fast talker.
LOL.. I didnt join the military to get rich....
Spank Williams 10/02/08
now dont lie in the poll yall. i know you will. :-)
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 10/01/08
Thats a pretty cool picture.
FLETCH346 09/29/08
WELCOME WELCOME WELCOME WELCOME WELCOME WELCOME WELCOME back to CCC!! 55 members! What now??
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/28/08
Thanks to Cassidy for the new Picture!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/28/08
Welcome Brandon, Mississippi sir.
Welcome to our 54th member, BR549!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/27/08
No blogs in almost a week? Step it up people.
Fausto, I'll send you the reason in a FanMail....
Spank Williams 09/26/08
why dont you ask him?
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/26/08
Why did Fletch get a new profile?
Welcome to the 53rd member, better known as Fletch, Spank Williams!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/25/08
IT'S ME~~~~~~~~FLETCH346
Spank Williams 09/25/08
Also, I am terminating my FLETCH346 account.. I will rejoin under another profile name....
FLETCH346 09/25/08
CCC, buddy, I have nothing against you but.. there are more ways to convey information than just merely being a self proclaimed author of a BLOG... Yes, I've learned some useful information from your BLOGs but the majority of the information I've garnered about Obama has been from my own research, emails fwd'd to me and of all things.. Youtube.
FLETCH346 09/25/08
Ha.. check this out.. This is something I didn't know.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49_U6zwUlno&sdig=1
Of course, compared to CCC.. none of us know a thing worth commenting on... So, enjoy.
FLETCH346 09/25/08
so proud of myself. i just spent $100 worth of mccain tshirts, signs, bumper stickers etc. for me and all my friends.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/23/08
You wanna see a real IDIOT?
Matt Damon talking politics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anxkrm9uEJk&feature=related
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/23/08
i suppose so.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/21/08
Did CCC really just use the word "malarkey"?
SEEE CCC? You are contradicting yourself. You see, first you tell me you don't care if I vote the other way on your TD's, then you tell me you want me to stop?

LMAO.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/21/08
Stop bringing your biased votes and comments to my TD's and I'll stop bringing my "TD drama" to this group. The door swings BOTH ways, Carolinagirl.

Difference is...you can't beat me in my TD's with a couple biased votes. I CAN expose most of what is written here as partisan high five bull malarkey.
C-C-C 09/21/08
Welcome to our 52nd member, Gator 1!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/20/08
CCC,
Your blog will be deleted.
Stop bringing all of your TD drama to the group. This is for politics.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/20/08
Carolinagirl, I specifically asked you to take down the blog you have titled "obama....". I wrote that. You have taken to attacking me everywhere you can find, be it blogs or TD's or FM's. I do not wish to have my writings in your group any longer. Please remove it, if anyone wishes to view it, it is available elsewhere on this site.
C-C-C 09/20/08
Question. Does stopping Obama=petty attacks on FN? I agree fully that Obama needs to be stopped but since I quit blogging for this group after being accused of doing something I didn't do, prominent members decide to start voting against me in TD's because of it?

That isn't unbiased analysis, fellas. That's mob rules mentality.

What I wrote here and what others write here are NOT the same thing. Don't make me start exposing your writings. I can do it much better than most of your critics have. I actually KNOW what is going on.
C-C-C 09/20/08
Since when are Palin and Biden running for president? By the way, Obama cannot be confirmed. None of his records have been released.
" If Palin has low intelligence level, then Joe Biden must be the stupidest guy an earth.
JAubin: Against Change 09/18/08 "


"Educational background of presidential candidates:

Obama:

Occidental College - Two years.

Columbia University - B.A. political science with a specialization in international relations.

Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna **** Laude

Biden:

University of Delaware - B.A. in history and B.A. in political science.

Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

McCain:

United States Naval Academy - Class rank 894 of 899

Palin:

Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester

North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study

University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism

Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester

University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in journalism"
Welcome to the 51st member, bodine!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/19/08
Carolina.. I thought you'd like that.. LOL
FLETCH346 09/19/08
ahaha fletch, good find!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/19/08
LATES GROUP PHOTO: SOME PEOPLE WILL DO ANYTHING TO GET ELECTED!!!!!!!! LMAO!!!!!
FLETCH346 09/19/08
When was the last time we had a Liberal President do anything for the country?
Not as screwed as we would be if Obama becomes president
Way to go JAubin on the two most random comments I've ever seen.

And I still think if Palin ever became President, we would all be screwed.
Happy International Talk Like A Pirate Day me buckos
If Palin has low intelligence level, then Joe Biden must be the stupidest guy an earth.
Aubin, just type it in on google. you'll get a million hits. Here's one:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12969.html

Also, it doesn't matter whether the job is productive or not. When you're a candidate you don't go around saying that. When you're a candidate to be named CEO of your company, a job you really can't turn down if offered, do you come out before announcements and say the job doesn't seem like one you'd want to do?


Come on... if anything, it shows Palin's low intelligence level.
"El Obama es un mentiroso!"
KRB 09/18/08
WASHINGTON (AP) ??? A top Hillary Rodham Clinton fundraiser threw her support behind Republican John McCain on Wednesday, saying he will lead the country in a centrist fashion and accusing the Democrats of becoming too extreme.

"I believe that Barack Obama, with MoveOn.org and Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean, has taken the Democratic Party ??? and they will continue to ??? too far to the left," Lynn Forester de Rothschild said. "I'm not comfortable there."

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gu2bf-i7LCP2tomJRWh6aRDSsK5wD938ODG80
KRB 09/18/08
I wonder if Palin created Apple?
Hey, for the record, a few days before Palin got the nomination she stated that the job of Vice President seemed inefficient and like a waste of time. Her words, not mine.
EagleHater: Goodbye, FN 09/17/08

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There have been so many lies put out about her, I wouldn't believe anything like this unless it was video under oath in a court. Regardless, when was the last time a VP really did anything useful? We don't need the list of Gores made up accomplishments. Those have been disproved already. I do feel confident Palin will accomplish great things.
KRB 09/17/08
Your right, JAubin. Constitutionally, there are many government jobs with much more responsibility than Vice President. But s/he still is a key adviser to the President and is sort of just an ambassador. And they break ties in the Senate.
"You cannot build a reputation on what you are going to do."
-Henry Ford

Obama needs to hear this.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/17/08
Honestly, my words not anybody else, if you look at the job of vice president as written in the Constitution and as how John Adams first did it...it is a waste of time. It's a do nothing job (until recently) where you are just there for a picture presentation. The Vice President is there just in case something does happen to our Commander in Chief.
"Joe Biden doesn't even think he would be a good VP (his words not mine). Why would anyone want him to be president?"

Hey, for the record, a few days before Palin got the nomination she stated that the job of Vice President seemed inefficient and like a waste of time. Her words, not mine.
Welcome to our two new members mm881102 and And they are back in the game

Cowboys Celtics Chisox decided to leave after some arguing with me
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/17/08
still...damn PETA
Actually it was the Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund who I have never heard of, and would not be surprised if they are less than 30 days old.

Try this propaganda
http://www.klvi.com/cc-common/news/videos/player.html?loc=3&pimg=&count=1
KRB 09/17/08
Joe Biden doesn't even think he would be a good VP (his words not mine). Why would anyone want him to be president?
KRB 09/17/08
damn PETA
The animal rights idiots are now attacking Palin. 1 more reason I want to vote for her. I'm officially Palinized!
KRB 09/17/08
And why would Palin become president? Do you expect (like every other Democrat) that McCain will drop dead two weeks into office? Could you imagine how horrible of a president Joe Biden would be?
Ohhh, Fausto, I hope you don't kiss your Momma with that mouth!!
FLETCH346 09/17/08
Now, I admit, I HATE John McCain as a possible president, but can you imagine just how horrible of a president Sarah Palin would be?
FaustoCarmonaFan is Done 09/15/08

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No I can't imagine that, because I believe she would be a great President, and she would be a thousand times better than anyone the Dem's have put forth in the last 30 years.
KRB 09/16/08
Welcome to the 50th member jwm323s.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/16/08
Welcome to our 49th member CarsonPalmer09!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/16/08
At least our vp does hate the presidental canidate...or for that matter we don't have the presidental canidate who wises he never chose his vp as a certain person and wishes he went a different direction...already changing his mind. What else is he gonna change his mind about?
Now, I admit, I HATE John McCain as a possible president, but can you imagine just how horrible of a president Sarah Palin would be?
We are back down to 49 members. One of the former members "Offensively Minded" has joined the group "Democrats for Barack Obama" so obliviously he won't be a member of our group anymore. Sorry it took me so long to figure it out.

Also we might be back down to 48 members. I'm not sure about our newest member "Gator 1." Could possibly be a dupe account.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/15/08
She needs it, the sun only shines for 6 months and when it is shining its too damn cold to go outside
http://www.usmagazine.com/news/sarah-palin-installed-a-tanning-bed-at-the-governors-mansion

Now you democrats can start raising heck over this, but I say

AMEN SISTER! I would have done the exact same thing.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/15/08
Welcome to our 50TH Member, Gator1!!!!

Can ya'll believe we have 50 members?!?!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/15/08
I love how these kids comment on the war, the economy and taxes and #1- All they've done is watch the War from the couch, #2 - The only thing they have to do with the economy is from what allowance their parents give them and #3 - The only taxes they deal with is in the form of the Child Tax Credit their parents received... Incredible. Once you've 'Been there & done that' let us now.
FLETCH346 09/14/08
I think we just found approval ratings lower than Congress's.
The Moral to this story is.. Change, isn't always good.
FLETCH346 09/13/08
Thats not the point. The point is that he wants to change everything, even stuff that aint broke. If you change stuff that aint broke, it becomes broke.
I really doubt Obama had anything to do with this mess, JAubin.
Would surprise me to see Obama drop another few points after this fiasco.
Think about, this is change on something you can easily avoid...we really can't avoid the president of the United States now can we?
I admit, if Obama's changes are anything like the changes to the site, I think we're all f8cked.
Change, yes we can...No, we don't want to change.
BTW, If youre sick and tired of this new look and love to talk sports.. You should give diehard101.com a look.. I've created a NASCAR Group and profile there.. Reminds me of a Sports MySpace...
FLETCH346 09/12/08
Im honestly worried about Gjj.. if the place he was staying was on the water and up on stilts.. It had better be 30ft stilts....
FLETCH346 09/12/08
And, Yes, Fausto, I'm not calling you Fausi anymore.. Over the last week or so..You've gained my respect by, you, yourself, being respectful... Fausto it is.
FLETCH346 09/12/08
Fausto, this new SI FanNation config..... That shows you what 'Change' gets you.
FLETCH346 09/12/08
I'd vote for McCain if he promised to bring this site back to normal....
Welcome to the 49th member, redsoxs94
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/12/08
JA, I've said that all along.
FLETCH346 09/12/08
I think the Obama campaign is behind this change because of his recent fall from stardom due to the continuous efforts of Stop Obama Express.
THIS IS HOW OBAMA PLANS TO DEFEND AMERICA:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o84PE871BE

This is INSANE!!!!! MAKING AMERICA WEAK IS DEFINITELY CHANGE... Is the type of change we need??
FLETCH346 09/12/08
i know....it says "since many people are leaving fn, because of the new site, should we keep the SOE or not?

vote via lockertalk.....
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/12/08
God Bless America. Fighting terrorism is probably the only success of this Bush administration.
I cant even read the poll
Happy 2 months and 1 day to the Stop Obama Express!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/11/08
And welcome BACK to Fletch..bringing us back up to 48.

Once again God Bless America.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/11/08
OK.. I'm back.. Sorry for the tirade last night...
God Bless America and all the victims of the 9/11 tragedy, the troops who have given their lives since and the one's that will continue to give their lives...
FLETCH346 09/11/08
God bless America. God bless everyone... we may disagree politically, but today is a day to remember the people who passed, and thank the men & women who are fighting for our freedom.

May everyone live in peace and happiness forever.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/11/08
Here's Joe Biden's greatest hits (including the wheelchair incident in the 2nd one)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uKroMBXwxw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2mzbuRgnI4

Enjoy!
AngryCorgi 09/11/08
God Bless 9/11 and God Bless you all.. FanNation MODs have made this site unliveable.... John McCain may you thrive in Victory and Obama may you just go off somewhere in the Middle East and quitely do what the other Jihadist do...
FLETCH346 09/11/08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9PwWkV4HQ4
For one day, lets put politics aside. Tomorrow is the 7th anniversary.

A moment of silience will be observed several times throughout the days. The first coming at 8:46 AM (EST) for when the North Tower was struck. Another one will occur at 9:03 AM (EST) for when the South Tower was struck. A third one will be held at 9:59 AM (EST) for when the South Tower fell. The final one will be held at 10:29 AM (EST) for when the North Tower fell.
One more rant.... If I ever run across that MOMOFTWO... She gonna be a MOMOFFOUR .. LMAO!!! I'm sure she's a Democrat and will apply for assistance.. Live free off everyone else's hardwork.....
FLETCH346 09/10/08
AND, Who gives two sh\ts on who the MOST ACTIVE members are.. Pretty much just points the finger at those Top 5 people who have nothing better to do... LOL
FLETCH346 09/10/08
Yep, SI screwed the pooch on this one...
FLETCH346 09/10/08
ANGRY, I didn't write that... You accidentally copied my name from the article I left above the article you copied.. That article was contributed by KRB....
There's only one thing I'd want to do with a Radical Muslim.. and it has nothing to do with lipstick....
THE PERSON WHO CREATES THE POST .. Their name is at the bottom.. Not the top, in this instance.
FLETCH346 09/10/08
FLETCH346 09/09/08
One final thought for the night.

"You can put lipstick on a muslim, and it is stll an American hating, tax raising, socialist policy wanting muslim."

LOL, nice Fletch. ;)
AngryCorgi 09/10/08
what the heck is this new fannation????????????????????????????????????????????????? someone start a petition for them to put it back to normal...this is HORRIBLE!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/10/08
this new fannation totally sucks
I should add that John McCain did not make the commercial nor did he approve it... Just one Red Blooded American's reason for voting for McCain.
FLETCH346 09/09/08
John McCain Commercial.. I think the one that will win him the Presidency..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

Amen Brother...
FLETCH346 09/09/08
One final thought for the night.

"You can put lipstick on a muslim, and it is stll an American hating, tax raising, socialist policy wanting muslim."

And the more they attack this woman the more votes she will get!
KRB 09/09/08
"Overall, Palin's travel spending pales in comparison with that of predecessor Frank Murkowski, who charged $463,000 for air fare in 2006. Palin charged $93,000 in 2007."

The way I see it, she saved the Alaska tax payers about $370,000. Not bad when you do the math correctly.

Its sad that people are so upset that a hockey mom from a small town in Alaska has more experience than the best the democrats could find. Hahahahaha!
KRB 09/09/08
Besides, the Washington Post is hardly known for objective factual reporting. It is a liberal rag that is almost as bad as the Enquirer.
KRB 09/09/08
Seriously, you think anyone really cares about $50,000 in per diem expenses. When they get back the more than $3 BILLION in cost overruns wasted by Ted Kennedy on the tunnel project that is already falling apart, maybe then we can talk about this measley amount that wouldn't light up Congress for one day.

Do you really expect us to believe that no other government official in history used any money to do something for their family. I ask again is this really the best you can do? Come back when you have some facts and a real scandal. I just count this as another of the weak attempts by the Obama liberals to ruin this person.
KRB 09/09/08
Yes I read the article, especially this part...

"State officials told The Post her claims ??? nearly $17,000 over 19 months ??? were permitted because her "duty station" is Juneau, the capital, and she was in Wasilla 600 miles away."

Just because you do not like the setup does not mean it was a lie.
KRB 09/09/08
Direct quote:

"State finance director Kim Garnero told the paper the government covers the travel costs of anyone conducting state business and, "I can't imagine kids could be doing that.""

And that's just the area where she claimed her kids required several thousand dollars to go back and forth to work with her. What? Seriously? That is a horrendous excuse/ lie.
KRB, did YOU read the article? Her AIDES said they were permitted expenses, and yet the FINANCIAL DIRECTOR OF ALASKA, who I think knows a little better than Palin's secretary, said that many of the expenses were NOT permitted.

And did you see her justification for why she did it? Well, she works from home. But home is 600 miles from the actual governor's mansion. So she billed the state like she actually went 1200 miles back and forth each day to get to work, when it was actually like 45 miles round trip. All because she didn't work from the state office, but instead her home one. Wouldn't you like to work from your own personal location AND make 50 grand a year because you chose not to go all the way to work? I know I'd take that deal.
I would doubt any article that tries to say anything bad about Palin at this point. And is that really the best you can do? Did you read the article? The per diem charges were "PERMITTED!". Have a nice day. Better luck next time.
KRB 09/09/08
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hDmWKASEklMtUsLNi9lo2I6NlPAgD933DNUG1

There's a link, of course. Via the AP, which got the story from the newspaper of our nation's capital. Wouldn't doubt that, would you?
Wooo... so how about that Sarah Palin? You know what I like from my VP candidates who bill themselves as a fresh outlook, and knowledgeable on finance? I like it when they bill their taxpayers for 312 days a year of travel that they DIDN'T ACTUALLY TAKE. Yeah... you guys in here always complaining about taxes... well, if she's your VP, at least you can rest assured those hard earned dollars of yours will go into her travel fund, that must go right to the back, seeing as she doesn't travel.
if obama gets elected, those people deserve what will happen
Welcome miguel...almost up to the big 5-0!!!!!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/09/08
Yeah...funny thing is that Kennedy called him osama bin laden and then walked out and said he was the best guy for the job at the DNC. The dems got so wrapped around the axle over hating each other then praising each other its hard to take anything they say seriously. Heck, even Biden said McCain would be a better fit for President than Obama. Funny how the country buys the BS and then forgets all about the old BS to embrace newer BS. Shockingly stupid, the USA general population is!
AngryCorgi 09/09/08
welcome to our family Miguel#94
I don't think I've ever misspoke what Religion I am.. He has mistated about his Faith, hence, that video and his video about the '57 States'.. You know that he's mixed up his thinking of the Islamic 57 states with the United States.. For one.. I DO NOT want this in charge of the US of A!
FLETCH346 09/09/08
Lets have a show of hands.

How many of you have ever forgotten that you were Christian and accidently called yourself muslim?

That is almost as funny as all the liberals who call him Osama Bin Laden. Classic.
KRB 09/08/08
MUST SEE: I don't condone the contents of this entire video but what stood out to me was his very first statement he made to the reporter about his Faith..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18VOGykrgHo
FLETCH346 09/08/08
They have their voice as we have our's. They aren't a threat to our beliefs. Although, I feel their beliefs, if they win, are a threat to this country.
FLETCH346 09/08/08
thats what google is for. plus that means that they cant understand what we are saying either. most problably cant vote anyway
This will be no problem.

1.) They have all of 5 members. That means that we have 42 more members than they do.

2.) They are like a Spanish group or something, so we can't even read or understand some of their stuff.

3.) They can't even spell "Barack."
Notice on the most recent blog post under tags.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/08/08
we should go over there and say that this is a sports website, not politics :)
Just sit back and keep your eye on that group.. Take note of the people's character and comments and you'll be sure to see the type of people, the majority, that are voting for Obama.
FLETCH346 09/08/08
I feel a group war starting

http://www.fannation.com/groups/show/25566
welcome all new members!
FLETCH346 09/08/08
Welcome to our newest member, "Offensively Minded" Almost up to the big 5-0!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/08/08
START EACH DAY WITH A POSITIVE OUTLOOK

1. Open a new file in your computer.
2. Name it 'Barack Obama'.

3. Send it to the Recycle Bin.

4. Empty the Recycle Bin.

5. Your PC will ask you: 'Do you really want to get rid of 'Barack Obama?'

6. Firmly click 'Yes.'

7. Feel better?



GOOD! - Tomorrow we'll do Nancy Pelosi
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/08/08
Welcome to the 46th member..

Five!...friend to America!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/08/08
Sarah Palin is delicious! ;)
AngryCorgi 09/08/08
Is that a real Sarah Palin picture because if so she really is a hottie.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080908/ap_en_tv/tv_nbc_olbermann

Olbermann and Matthews demoted after convention scandals. LOL.
KRB 09/08/08
Usually when I Jehovah Witness rolls up to my door.. I always make it a point to answer only wearing a towel.. LMAO!!!! Studdering, stammerinc.. they just hand me the literature and leave..
FLETCH346 09/08/08
It appears that PollingReport.com has misquoted the gallup source as "54% McCain/44% Obama" as opposed to the 48%/44% that Gallup actually claims. It doesn't matter either way. I only trust Rasmussen Reports polls, as they are more consistently accurate than gallup's work.
AngryCorgi 09/08/08
I don't have blogging privileges here so I'll just post the link to my Barry O blog in my politically incorrect group:

http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/247875?new=true
C-C-C 09/08/08
quiet weekend
oh my, thats interesting...i cant stand people who come up to my door saying stuff like that and trying to sell stuff. its like "this is my sanctuary so get off my lawn and off the steps of my front porch"
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/07/08
i had one come to my house a couple weeks ago and handed me a panflit on global warming...she got real mad when i told her that global warming didnt exist and gave the reasoning that the same scientist that say it exists now, said 20 years ago we were entering an ice age
Other-Jehovahs Witness
Welcome and congratulations on being the 45th members to Stop Obama Express (Cincy) Eddie Vedder.
We all know slavery was bad, guys. It happened 150 years ago, calm down.
FaustoCarmonaFan* 09/06/08

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Do you have any clue at all what this conversation is about? The comment was a sarcastic reply to the fact that a few idiots tried to make the sign a racial issue. It is completely stupid to expect that the mere mention of chicken in the same sentence as OBama is racial in and of itself. Just as the words boy and watermelon are not racist unless used in a racist manner.

No one here was complaining about slavery, only commenting on why some people might find those words offensive, even though they shold not in some instances. Sign up for a reading comprehension class before you leave high school. It will help you tremendously in life.
KRB 09/07/08
Yeah, slavery was bad.. And, Fausi, to be honest.. I wasnt getting worked up at all.. It's something that happened before I was even born .. I had nothing to do with it and it's regretfull but it's history and can't stand when someone brings it up today using it just like it happened last week..
FLETCH346 09/07/08
we nevere called it slavery in Massachusetts. they were called servants, received no pay, worked for life, and lived in little shacks...but not slavery though, serventry i guess
not in my state
We all know slavery was bad, guys. It happened 150 years ago, calm down.
im from the north...the only slave that never had "slavery"
Those foods that people conceive as Racist are all Southern Comfort foods... Southern fare like fried chicken, grits, watermelon or whatever.. The south is where slavery was the most dominant back in the day.. So, I think that's why everyone thinks the way they do when those types food are mentioned.
FLETCH346 09/06/08
what about watermelon?
I saw a sign at a State Farm Insurance Business that said..
'A taxpayer voting for Barack Obama is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.' LOL
FLETCH346

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A local business man put up the same sign here a couple months ago. He was immediately called a racists. Because everyone knows that the mere mention of chicken is a racist statement. Yeah right.
KRB 09/06/08
Yeah, well so much for Hanna. It was nothing! Anyway, good luck to anyone up north in it's pathway.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/06/08
I saw a sign at a State Farm Insurance Business that said..
'A taxpayer voting for Barack Obama is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.' LOL
FLETCH346 09/05/08
I wouldn't throw Pelosi outta bed for eatin' c*r*a*c*k*e*rs.. LOL
Now, that WAS NOT a racist statement, mind you...
FLETCH346 09/05/08
just goes to show you why beautiful people are all republicans
Oh well, I still have Nancy Pelosi. EEEEWWWW.
I'm getting it tomorrow night into the morn
No..ya'll can keep it up.

And yes, I'll be watching for tornadoes. There are soo many warnings and watches here. We only should have about 50 mph winds or less...so I should be ok....I hope. None of us had school today,
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/05/08
Sorry Carolina.. If you need to take it down.. We'll sorta understand.. LOL
BTW, good luck down there in SC.. keep your eye out for tornadoes....
FLETCH346 09/05/08
GROUP PIC=
Our next Vice President..
FLETCH346 09/05/08
so Fausto, you want some? support McCain/Palin '08
lets remember...only us republicans that support Palin get the priviledge
boys, boys, boys. ya'll always amuse me.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/05/08
Fausi, finally something we can agree on.. LOL
I received an email today with her in a short leather mini and a sexy blouse. GEEESH O PETE!!! Needless to say, i stood at attention and saluted... LMAO!!
FLETCH346 09/05/08
Dude, FLETCH, Palin has them both beat. She has that "sexy librarian" kind of look.
Watch this and be totally freaking confused about Obama's negativity toward Bush's conducting of the Iraq War.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaFYRmRMQ7Q&feature=user
AngryCorgi 09/05/08
Oprah is Racist too !!!!!! LMAO!!
FLETCH346 09/05/08
http://www.usmagazine.com/news/oprah-sarah-palin-not-invited-on-my-show-until-after-election

Ya'll think we are biased??? Check this out.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/05/08
http://www.usmagazine.com/news/mccain-beats-obamas-convention-speech-record

McCain beats Obama's convention speech record!
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/05/08
Welcome Trent Votes McCain to the Stop Obama Express
Sarah Palin had one of the greatespeaches i ever heard Wednsday
Someone tell me what that egotistical b\otch, Michelle Obama has on Cindy McCain!!!
I'll tell ya.. Not a d]mn thing!!!
FLETCH346 09/05/08
Speak with honesty and respect and you get the same......
FLETCH346 09/05/08
Oh, Fausi, did you get slammed for your views or Christianity?? No.. ??
Well, shame on us Racists and Rednecks then!!!
FLETCH346 09/05/08
That is the first intelligent thing that you have said. YES, Scientology is a cult.
I am a devout Christian, and yes, a member of a UCC church, like Obama.

And I'm not even sure if Scientology can be considered a religion. More like a mainstream cult.
http://thepage.time.com/

Gives a nice insight on how much McCain has gained on Obama since last week.
but thats only 3. 3 out of 43 is about 7% of the group
Since non-members can't see the poll, we will keep you updated. So far, 100% Christian.
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/04/08
Not sure why I put scientology on there...not even a real religion
I'm a God fearing Methodist.. Allah has no place in my life...
FLETCH346 09/04/08
Welcome dp 169.

"HATE! HATE! HATE!

Oooooh, DO YOU HAVE TO BE CHRISTIAN TO JOIN THIS GROUP?........Sounds like it.

HA! YOU PEOPLE crack me up!!!
FERRELL 1 09/04/08"


Where did this come from? I'm sure all 43 of us aren't Christian. Would you like to do a survey or something??
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/04/08
"HATE! HATE! HATE!

Oooooh, DO YOU HAVE TO BE CHRISTIAN TO JOIN THIS GROUP?........Sounds like it.

HA! YOU PEOPLE crack me up!!!
FERRELL 1 09/04/08"

Well, I think the only "hater" is EagleHater, and I think he only hates Eagles. ;)

How is the discussion of fact a matter of hate? Hate is a topic preached by the UCC, but not a crutch I am leaning on. Truth is stronger than hate, so I'll just keep giving that!
AngryCorgi 09/04/08
Here is your NAAWP:

The Council of Conservative Citizens

http://cofcc.org/?page_id=60
Urnze 09/04/08
HATE! HATE! HATE!

Oooooh, DO YOU HAVE TO BE CHRISTIAN TO JOIN THIS GROUP?........Sounds like it.

HA! YOU PEOPLE crack me up!!!
FERRELL 1 09/04/08
Welcome dp!!!!
Thanks Angry..... I can't wait to see the poll results after this Convention.
FLETCH346 09/04/08
Please welcome our newest member, number 43, dp169
"From Audacity of Hope:'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

Nice little Obama quote....
FLETCH346 09/04/08"

Good point, FLETCH --- I had forgotten that one. His memoirs should be terribly disturbing to anyone --- except of course your average paranoid african-american who hates white people and thinks that the US is the modern-day Egypt and that african-americans are modern-day Jews.

BTW, it took Barack exactly 24 hours to go from stating that Israel had a right to exist to stating the exact opposite. He has been publicly anti-semetic in the past and by Wright's own admission, "a lot of his Jewish support will dry up quicker than a snowball in hell" upon election. Wright was the inspiration for Barack's thinking. Only now that it has hurt his political strength has Obama distanced (temporarily) himself from his pro-muslim mentor. Wright has had connections with Louis Farrakhan and Iranian leader Muammar al-Gadaffi (remember how Iran is a small non-threat? --- wake up people!). Obama is veiling his true persona for now, but don't expect it to stay dormant when policies start forming from within the white house.
AngryCorgi 09/04/08
"All right, show me the f8cking proof that Obama is a Muslim. Give me the f8cking proof. Because last time I checked, Barack Obama is a member of the United Church of Christ, which would make him by far a Christian. You have absolutely no proof that he is a Muslim. He is a Christian, get over it.
FaustoCarmonaFan: Yeah, Utah! 09/03/08"

Fausto,

I am not sure whether Barack professes to be a muslim or not, but I know this much --- He does not belong to a church that professes to follow Christ's teachings, hence you can't accurately refer to the church as a "Christian" church.

I will repeat what I have already explained. The following is a statement by James Cone that he authored:

"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

Christ (a) never taught racism or racial elitism and (b) never used hate as a tool. The fact that Obama has lied directly that he did not know that the church was about that and lied regarding his knowledge of the agenda held by the council on foreign relations (a group of which, at least his wife is a known memeber and he has even admitted to have delivered private, personal addresses to) should not surprise anyone. The man and his running mate are both trained liars (read LAWYERS) and the DNC has been shoving lawyers down America's throat for the past 7 elections (except Gore, who dropped out of law school to go directly into politics). This should be an unsettling fact to the people of the US, as I do not know anyone who prefers to be lied to by a career liar.
AngryCorgi 09/04/08
From Audacity of Hope:'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

Nice little Obama quote....
FLETCH346 09/04/08
I guess it's just the Cherokee in me that .. when someone (Muslims Radicalists) does my people, AMERICANS, wrong I tend to defend my people and their way of life.. Thats why Fausi thinks I'm Racist...
FLETCH346 09/04/08
I never knew an Indian could be racist. They had it the worst in American History. Slavery is nothing compared to what the Indians went through
KRB, thanks!!!
But, if Liberal Opinions counted I'd be hurt.. but, they mean about as much as Obama's word.. Which is NOTHING.
FLETCH346 09/04/08
Did anyone catch the liberal response after Palin's speech? (Funny how people say Fox is not fair and balanced yet they interviewed a liberal about her speech.)

Anyway, she talked about better choices for energy, a better economy, better jobs, less taxes, less gov't, better military, working to make the country stronger, etc, etc.

The liberal stated that Americans would never vote for anything like that.

That scares the hell out of me and makes me wonder what the liberals really want for America.
KRB 09/03/08
Fausi, look at the bright side.. You probably have more experience than Obama.. LMAO!!!
FLETCH346 09/03/08

Fletch,

That was great. You could help write speeches for the convention with material like that.
KRB 09/03/08
Fausi, here's your chance and don't f8ck it up.. what's you Ethnicity?? And, what do your parents do for a living?? If you can't answer these simple questions then don't bother visiting this group in the future.
Mine, my Mom was an Special Education Aide.. My Father was a Chemical Engineer.. I am Irish/Cherokee Indian.. But, yet, I'm Racist.. by your terms.. You little maggot.
FLETCH346 09/03/08
There's your f8cking proof you lil biotch!!
FLETCH346 09/03/08
His Father is Barack H. Obama Sr. and he was born in Kenya, as a Muslim.
FLETCH346 09/03/08
He was born of an African American woman with his Father being A Muslim... Which, in my book makes him an American/Muslim.
Fausi, if you want proof go dig his Daddy up....
FLETCH346 09/03/08
All right, show me the f8cking proof that Obama is a Muslim. Give me the f8cking proof. Because last time I checked, Barack Obama is a member of the United Church of Christ, which would make him by far a Christian. You have absolutely no proof that he is a Muslim. He is a Christian, get over it.
You want to know who's really racist: Stephen Colbert. He once said, "I do not see color. I just assume everyone's white." But like I said, it is better to be racist than ignorant. I'm neither, unlike certain people. Here's looking at you Rev. Jackson.
LMAO!!
FLETCH346 09/03/08
Better to be racist then plain ignorant.
Now, JA.. he'll start calling you a racist too.. if you're not careful..
FLETCH346 09/03/08
Prediction of what Fausto will say: OBAMA IS NOT MUSLIM. HE IS NOT A TERRORIST. STOP SAYING THAT.
RUDY..RUDY...RUDY...RUDY.....
FLETCH346 09/03/08
Some names that have something in common... Saddam Hussein , Muammar al-Gaddafi , Yasser Arafat & Nelson Mandela to name a few.. What do they have in common? They are proponents of Socialism.. I believe that Obama can be closely compared to these same men.
FLETCH346 09/03/08
Fausi, look at the bright side.. You probably have more experience than Obama.. LMAO!!!
FLETCH346 09/03/08
ok fine then. Here are McCain numbers. Ready?

Using basic math, the most that McCain could be in Congress, assuming he was in his seat for votes that happened when he was campaigning in New Hampshire and Iowa, that is 7/12 x (12x22+9)/12 = 159.25 = 159 months, 7 days, 12 hours he has been in Congress, again assuming he was present for all 24 hours in a day. Take it a step further because Congress meets for 8 hours Monday-Friday, so long as it is not a holiday. 40 hours a week. 159 months x 22 days/month = 3498 days + 7 days from above - 2 days (because 7 days include weekends) = 3503 days x 8 hours/day = 28024 hours in Congress x 3600 seconds/hour = 100,886,400 seconds - 16,617,600 Obama's seconds = 84,268,800 more seconds in Congress than Obama, again all this is assuming they were at their seat for all 8 hours of every day that Congress met since they were elected. Where is the biasism now Fausto?
Then how come you counted Obama's days in Congress by how many days he has actually worked, by counted McCain's by years served? That, my friend, is manipulating statistics for your bias.
Even if he was a congressmen for 4 years (impossible seeing as how he was elected in 2004 and began his teerm in January of 2005. It is 4 years in January of 2009) Congress convenes for roughly 7 months of the 12 months during the year. Using basic math, the most that Obama could be in Congress, assuming he was in his seat for votes that happened when he was campaigning in New Hampshire and Iowa, that is 7/12 x (12x3+9)/12 = 26.25 = 26 months, 7 days, 12 hours he has been in Congress, again assuming he was present for all 24 hours in a day. Take it a step further because Congress meets for 8 hours Monday-Friday, so long as it is not a holiday. 40 hours a week. 26 months x 22 days/month = 572 days + 7 days from above - 2 days (because 7 days include weekends) = 577 days x 8 hours/day = 4616 hours in Congress x 3600 seconds/hour = 16,617,600 seconds. Not all that much when you break it down huh?
Yes, Fausi, you being a student.. You should learn to do your homework.
FLETCH346 09/03/08
hello fausi "That's how many days the Senate was actually in session and working. "
CaRoLiNaGiRl:#21 09/03/08
Um, Barack Obama has been a congressman for 4 years, not 1/2 a year.
SUMMARY

I know that some of you don't like to read long drawn out missives... so
here's the executive summary.........

John McCain

Congress: 26 Years Military: 22 Years


Barrack Obama

Congress: 143 Days Military: 0 Days

Just think how great a professional of any kind you could be with only 143
days of experience!!!

People want change so badly? . . . . Maybe we should lower the experience
requirement for doctors, lawyers, airline pilots, etc. This would cause some
change!

From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United States Senator, to the
time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory Committee, he
logged 143 days of experience in the Senate.

That's how many days the Senate was actually in session and working.

The one single Senate committee that he headed never even met -- once.

After 143 days of work experience, Obama believed he was ready to be
Com