Sorry, I'm leaving. This group is kinda starting to suck.
RHATER is Gone. 10/05/07
you all take too long lol
KentuckyFan#1 09/19/07
...........
ballplayr9 09/14/07
i beat a shizzle.
ballplayr9 09/12/07
Elway and I are finally done w/our Rd 2 TD. Check it out, we only have 23 votes total so far so do your duty.

http://fannation.com/throwdowns/show/52163
TheGreat1 09/11/07
Taking too long...................
PhillyFan 09/04/07
And phillyfan is moving on.
Elway4Prez 09/01/07
(2)Elway4prez vs (16)TheGreat1

(4)Bschwartz07 vs (14)Phillyfan

(7)TheNest6827vs (9)Kentuckyfan1

(5)Ballplyr9 vs (11)A Shizzle
Elway4Prez 09/01/07
1)In five years, what mlb team that is currently bad will be good? ex. if this were a throwdown in 2002(I know, FanNation wasn't created yet.), the Brewers would be a good pick.

XXX2)What is the most improved division this year in the NFL?XXX (4)Bschwartz07

XXX3) Pick a new division champ for every division in the nfl. ( all the teams that won are discluded)XXX(2)Elway4prez

4)You're down by one, with one second left with the ball, ______ takes the game winning shot.(you can choose any active NBA/College player

XXX5)Which player deserves to be in the hall of fame most whose not already in there?(Must be eligible, not including next years eligible like jerry rice etc) XXX (11) A Shizzle
Elway4Prez 09/01/07
thats not bad. sorting through them all sux hella tho
ballplayr9 08/31/07
about 100 or so
my record is over 300
A* shizzle* BS 08/31/07
yah me too gone for a week i had 130 or so...........
A* shizzle* BS 08/31/07
haha lol that stinks. yeah 125 and it took 2 seconds to delete ever last one. Hahaha
ballplayr9 08/31/07
My fanmail record is 170 lol
PhillyFan 08/30/07
lol how many fanmails did you have. I was gone for a week once and I had 125 mails when i got back.
ballplayr9 08/30/07
IM BACKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!
alright shizz lets do this...again.
ballplayr9 08/29/07
A SHIZZLE IS REPLACING BRONCOS FAN FOREVER!!!
Elway4Prez 08/29/07
uggg im sick of this can i get a new opponent?
ballplayr9 08/27/07
Get your vote on! Let's go!
Neal Coolong 08/27/07
I dont know were ballplyr9s opponent is but if he doesnt respond by monday were replacing him.
Elway4Prez 08/26/07
no, me vs. broncos4ever (Green&gold) havent started yet.
ballplayr9 08/25/07
Have all the second round throwdowns been started?
PhillyFan 08/25/07
wait elway why did you decline thegreat1's TD?
ballplayr9 08/24/07
1)In five years, what team that is currently bad will be good? ex. if this were a throwdown in 2002(I know, FanNation wasn't created yet.), the Brewers would be a good pick.

XXX2)What is the most improved division this year in the NFL?XXX (4)Bschwartz07

XXX3) Pick a new division champ for every division in the nfl. ( all the teams that won are discluded)XXX(2)Elway4prez

4)You're down by one, with one second left with the ball, ______ takes the game winning shot.(you can choose any active NBA/College player

5)Which player deserves to be in the hall of fame most whose not already in there?(Must be eligible, not including next years eligible like jerry rice etc)
Elway4Prez 08/20/07
(2)Elway4prez vs (16)TheGreat1

(4)Bschwartz07 vs (14)Phillyfan

(7)My Team Chose Ryan Leaf! vs (9)Kentuckyfan1

(5)Ballplyr9 vs (11)Green&Gold
Elway4Prez 08/19/07
Good one...
Elway4Prez 08/19/07
Hey guys, I'm back... just in case you were worried about me after 48 hours without internet.
rowyho 08/18/07
I think "If you're down by one and you have the ball (and no one is cheating by casting votes without a comment), ____ takes the winning shot" is the best topic here.

(sorry, I had to...)
Neal Coolong 08/18/07
1)In five years, what team that is currently bad will be good? ex. if this were a throwdown in 2002(I know, FanNation wasn't created yet.), the Brewers would be a good pick.

2)What is the most improved division this year in the NFL?

3) Pick a new division champ for every division in the nfl. ( all the teams that won are discluded)

4)You're down by one, with one second left with the ball, ______ takes the game winning shot.(you can choose any active NBA/College player

5)Which player deserves to be in the hall of fame most whose not already in there?(Must be eligible, not including next years eligible like jerry rice etc)
Elway4Prez 08/17/07
Your right. I like that name better for some reason.
Elway4Prez 08/17/07
and topic #1 is an MLB topic, right?
ballplayr9 08/16/07
Lana, AdamLee would STILL be undefeated without cheaters.
Big Ben68 08/16/07
i think green&gold changed his name to Broncos4ever.
ballplayr9 08/16/07
1)In five years, what team that is currently bad will be good? ex. if this were a throwdown in 2002(I know, FanNation wasn't created yet.), the Brewers would be a good pick.

2)What is the most improved division this year in the NFL?

3) Pick a new division champ for every division in the nfl. ( all the teams that won are discluded)

4)You're down by one, with one second left with the ball, ______ takes the game winning shot.(you can choose any active NBA/College player)
Elway4Prez 08/16/07
(2)Elway4prez vs (16)TheGreat1

(4)Bschwartz07 vs (14)Phillyfan

(7)My Team Chose Ryan Leaf! vs (9)Kentuckyfan1

(5)Ballplyr9 vs (11)Green&Gold
Elway4Prez 08/16/07
(16)TheGreat1
(2)Elway4prez
(9)Kentuckyfan1
(11)Green&Gold
(4)Bschwartz07
(7)My Team Chose Ryan Leaf!
(14)Phillyfan
(5)Ballplyr9
Elway4Prez 08/16/07
i do think you should make a new account uofmrules. that could help with all of this. just tell all you close friends on this site its you.
Elway4Prez 08/16/07
If it wasn't for "Cheaters" AdamLee wouldn't be undefeated right now.
LanaLikesBrady 08/16/07
Holy **** i just got back and saw all of this. First of all dont insult him, I dont care what he did or done. But we all no that Uofmrules really did lose. So his opponent is moving on. There is now going to be a rule saying that both participents and myself all must agree for a group vote if cheating is suspected in a td.
Elway4Prez 08/16/07
if it is soooo bad uofm just make a new account and stop using this one. Really easy.
BSchwartz07 08/16/07
Wow. This group went on a downward spiral, and fast.
Cardsox 08/16/07
this site used to be amazing but it has turned into ****. people come in here and make fun of others and make stupid TDs that take up the whole throwdown section. Them you get all these people who come in and cheat. This site has just turned into joke and don't be surprised if it is gone soon.
Uofmrules* BS 08/16/07
and chargzzz u have no right to call me a baby u panzy....you have not been cheated against or even impersonated. So you don't know the frustration that comes with doing a TD on here. in my last 20 TDs i have only maybe gotten 3-4 legit fair TDS. and you wonder why i go off on people that sit here and tell me im just being a baby and i need to grow up...how about i make up 200 different accounts and vote against u in every single TD and see how pissed and paranoid u get.
Uofmrules* BS 08/16/07
this whole site is turning into a joke.....ive it was so great and no one cheated don't you think Adam lee would be doing more TDs?...no when u get good records like we do people cheat and vote against u just bc of your record
Uofmrules* BS 08/16/07
I'm close to leaving this group is turning into a joke.
LoS-I Am Torgo 08/16/07
UOFMRULES IS A WHINEY LITTLE BITC`H WHO NEEDS TO GROW SOME BALLS. ITS A THROWDOWN YOU STU`PID PANZY, GROW UP.
Charazargerzzz* 08/16/07
when you have lost as much as I have by someone cheating then you would be pardoned too. so don't give me speeches about losing like a big boy. This site is full of people with multiple accounts and thats why it will never last. I'm done with TDs bc they are ridiculous and never voted on based on the arguments, and people never leave u comments when u do them. This site will continue to go down hill, and to all the people who say there is no cheating or anyway to know if someone cheats....most likely you are a cheater yourself bc anyone who can think knows there is cheating and it will continue to get worse as long as u can create multiple accounts. so to everyone who disagrees with me you can go F yourself. bc i'm tired of hearing u B*llshit. anyone who still wants to talk to me after this I will see you in my NCAA/NFL pick'em league and to everyone who doesn't and ur in that league just leave bc I don't want little p*ssy b*tches in my league....good day.
Uofmrules* BS 08/16/07
yeah, just take the loss. The difference between this and my TD is that I didn't say a word. The person that won was the one that complained. And even then 3 votes is not a huge deal. So do not lump my TD with this one.

Facts
UofM vs Philly fan
26-27 final
3 votes means that 5.6% of your votes came in in the final 20 min.

Me vs DJTG
13-9 final
8 votes in the final 20 min
that is 36% of the votes over 1/3 of the votes in the final 20 min. And even then I WAS COOL WITH IT.

BOTTOM LINE
If you pull off a last second win and feel that something is up then step up and do the right thing. If you are on the losing end of the stick, just take the loss. Everyone in this group is honest to the best of my knowledge, so let them do the right thing. And in thei case phillyfan did the right thing, and that should be move on to the next round.
BSchwartz07 08/16/07
lol wow only 1 vote for me in a TD that was won in the last hour by him getting 3 votes? people need to start posting comments on others TDs so people know who is voting for them that is why everyone always accuses people of cheating. When someone gets 3,5,7 votes in arow without any comments people get suspicious, and you guys want to say well just deal with the lose don;t complain. How about u guys do u job and put a comment on every TD u vote on...so next time don't just go after the person who thinks these things, think about how you could have made it better.
Uofmrules* BS 08/16/07
You guys need to stop bitchi*ng about cheating. Just take the loss and ****.
Charazargerzzz* 08/16/07
Man, you seem like a bunch of drama queens. And what's really said is that there is "drama" on a sports website for no one knows each other.
LoS-I Am Torgo 08/16/07
I checked out the uofmrules throwdown, and it doesn't seem to me like anyone cheated. The ones where uofmrules says people cheated on him, he lost by like 20 votes. This one was a close throwdown decided by 1 vote. Just a thought.
TheNest6827 08/16/07
LET ME SPECIFY THAT I KNOW THAT PHILLYFAN DIDNT CHEAT, WE BELIEVE IT WAS AN OUTSIDE SOURCE
Elway4Prez 08/16/07
1)In five years, what team that is currently bad will be good? ex. if this were a throwdown in 2002(I know, FanNation wasn't created yet.), the Brewers would be a good pick.

2)What is the most improved division this year in the NFL?

3) Pick a new division champ for every division in the nfl. ( all the teams that won are discluded)

4)You're down by one, with one second left with the ball, ______ takes the game winning shot.(you can choose any active NBA/College player)
Elway4Prez 08/16/07
Stop saying the word we sound like b*tches. Drama is now a banned word. lol
Elway4Prez 08/16/07
This sounds like a bunch of girls, no offense, but can we say DRAMA?
LanaLikesBrady 08/16/07
Do the vote if you want. This drama is starting to piss me off.
PhillyFan 08/15/07
My only issue is that just creates an arbitration process of sorts, and we're going to have to hear about this same issue each time someone feels they were cheated. It apparently happens a lot to one person, I don't know if this happens to anyone else. But Elway, if that's what you think is best, I'll support your decision.
Neal Coolong 08/15/07
Actually theres a diference Steelercooz. No one thought DJ cheated. Its been proven someones cheated against uofmrules and he continues to. No one would have said anything if DJ just moved on. Someone really hates Uofmrules on this sight and continues to vote against him with numerous names. I think its only right if we give a group vote. And Djs wanted a vote to decide something he should for himself, uofmrules is asking for a vote because he thinks somone, not his opponent, is cheating against him. And after seeing this countless against him i only think this is fair.

No offense but the only this going round and round is this drama, so how bout we put an end to it like i already said.
Elway4Prez 08/15/07
well i still don't get the DTG one bc he won but hes the won who didn't want to move on...wierd
Uofmrules* BS 08/15/07
And seconds after I read this, we all received an email asking if we want to vote on UofM's TD because he says his opponent cheated.

'Round and 'round we go...
Neal Coolong 08/15/07
He honeslty did this to him self. I never asked him to rematch, or let schwartz move on. I just marked him as the winner. He emails me and says hes quitting an stuff. And then when people decide that they dont like HIS ACTIONS, we need to take the time to do a vote. If he would have just shut his whole in the first place, no one would have complained and he would have moved on fine. But he thinks people didnt read the complete arguement and just voted so he forfieted, BUT THATS JUST HIS OPINION!! It wasnt mine. I never said he should let schwatz move on. This is no ones fault but his own. I just dont see why we should have a vote becasue he cant make up his mind. All this started all this bs drama that wont end, sorta like the lana incident. Luckily she forgives and forgets and she rejoined the group. Honestly, I'm not going to lose an ounce a sleep over him quitting and i was going to sugest he did in the first place to end this drama. I like and respect him, that why i sent him an invite in the first place but I just dont wanna deal with something that he created in the first place. I'm not p*ssed at him and I dont care what he says about me or the group. I just think its alot of drama for him to do what he felt is right, and for me to mis-speak. I also feel that im being accused of "rigging" my own tourney. Frankly, I COULD GIVE A RATS *SS ABOUT WINNING, THIS SITE AND THIS TOURNEY IS JUST FOR FUN!!
Elway4Prez 08/15/07
well at least no one can say this group is boring, right?
BSchwartz07 08/15/07
Everyone is so dramatic about this...
rowyho 08/15/07
I'm leaving the OATTA. That's final. I won't move on in this tournament and I won't participate in any future tournaments. I don't care if this isn't shady or I was cheating or what. The fact that I was made out to be a cheater hurt the most. I know you apologized, but that's gone over my head from the first instance. It hurt. The treatment that I "was doing the right thing" seemed totally BS to me. It may have been "classy" to do it in your words, but I saw nothing "classy" in my actions at all. It was a horrible topic first of all loaded towards whoever had the first pick. I know it was partly my fault, but if you look through all the first round throwdowns, how many of them resulted in a lopsided victories? A few. I did nothing wrong. I don't really care if I'm a "good guy" or not.

The symbol of the OATTA is the number 21, which represents the most class a person can have. I know I don't have that much class, none of us here have it. It is impossible to attain. But we should try to. I don't think we are right now, myself included. Sure, I may have a blown this out of proportion. But I'm being told by everyone that I either did the right thing or the wrong thing. I didn't do either. I did my thing. I didn't think I deserved to go on. I don't know if I really wanted to move on. BSchwartz, thank you for asking for a rematch, but I just don't care right now. I'm leaving the group. There's nothing anyone can do. This isn't worth all this.

Next (this is mostly a reply to Elway's FanMail he sent me), if I got my "sweet poll," which quite frankly I couldn't give a flying rat about, I would just want to see what the group thinks. I have my word that I was doing what I wanted to do. It's Elway's and Schwartz's word that I was being classy. But then there's Eagle Hater, Coletrain, and Cooz at least who said I didn't do the right thing. The poll wouldn't change my outcome. It would just be my way of basically polling myself.

I didn't want this to get personal. I just want all this crap to end. So there it is. I am out of the OATTA. I'm not holding any grudges. None of this will come up in any of my rants. I'm out.

Later haters.
DJTG_2010 08/15/07
Hey all i did was put out my side.

And when someone goes from 5 to 13 votes in the final seconds of a TD without a single comment, yes Eagle Hater something is up. And when that has happened on my last 3 TD's something is up for sure. Now i never blamed DJTG of anything but being honest. Now you take a look at the actual TD and tell me he beat me out.

http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/49498

and to top things off we have 34 members and 22 votes in this td (some of which i'm sure are not even in this group.) and only about 4 or 5 people had comments. Something was up for sure, and DJTG wanted nothing to do with it. Now i'm up for whatever he wants to do, hell i'll even go with a rematch.
BSchwartz07 08/15/07
MAN, I wish I could be here tomorrow...
Big Ben68 08/15/07
I can tell ya who are the b*tchers...
Coletrain 08/15/07
No one here is a cheater. But alot of em a b*chers. I dont care if he moves on or not. I never thought you were a cheater and if it came out that way, ill apoligize for a third time. But make it for yourself your a big boy right?
Elway4Prez 08/15/07
I see nothing wrong with send an email out to your groups letting them know a great TD is going down. Just like people want to watch a good game, they want to see a good TD and vote, no big deal.
Whatever you guys decide is fine, I personally don't care. You're grown men, you can make your own decisions
TheGreat1 08/15/07
Thats like saying you dont trust a type of people, like black people. I'm not saying were a race but we are a group of people. And the fact that you dont trust me because of that is just f*cking idiotic.
Elway4Prez 08/15/07
And honestly, I dont know what being a Bronco fan has to do with it. That was a pretty stupid and irrelevant comment.
Elway4Prez 08/15/07
Actually, I apologized about that but here it is if you didnt read it.

Yeah I shouldn't have phrased it that way. Sorry man. What you did is what anyone would do in your situation. Its you felt that the people didnt read the arguements entirely. You've earned yourself a reserve spot in our next if youd like.

Next, if I give your sweet poll and everyone votes for you to not do it are you gonna change your mind just on that? Im not saying you cant change your mind because thats perfectly fine with me but don't follow the f*cking crowd, you should be intelligent enough to come up with you own descion. I did the poll for fun. You wouldnt have said anythign if everyone didn't start bringing this up. Were not in some conspercy against you, and I'm not going to be mad at all if you decide to move on or not. But make the descion for yourself. I take a win for a win, and I think so does everybody on here. What you did was perfectly fair and acceptable. SO DONT LISTEN TO EVERYONE ELSE, AND DECIDE FOR YOURSELF!!!!
Elway4Prez 08/15/07
Clarification: I would like a poll on whether or not I should move on, not the throwdown.

Not get personal either, the only two people who are saying I did the right thing are Broncos fans, and I personally don't trust Broncos fans. Nothing personal. I just want the groups opinion. Not a poll on who will win the NL West because the only reason that is there is because Elway is a D'backs fan.
DJTG_2010 08/14/07
Well I don't care if I move on or not, I just want to see everyone elses opinions. I've only heard from two people that I've done the right thing. I've heard from three or four that I didn't do the right thing. Personally, I'd like some opinion. I don't care if I move on or not, I just want to know what everyone thinks.

And personally Elway, I am not happy with you at all about how you made me out to be. You made me sound like a cheater, and I take offense to that.
DJTG_2010 08/14/07
Heres whose moving on but this list isnt final. There are still some issues going on with the uofmrules td and of course Djs.

(16)TheGreat1
(2)Elway4prez
(9)Kentuckyfan1
(11)Green&Gold
(4)Bschwartz07
(7)My Team Chose Ryan Leaf!
(14)Phillyfan
Elway4Prez 08/14/07
Dude honestly your big enough to make your own descions, were not gonna make them for you, I don't care if you come back, absolutely nothing would be wrong with that, or if you decide to stay with your original descion.
Elway4Prez 08/14/07
I think its up to him, so get off his back, not to be rude. He's old enough to make the decsion himself. I don't care if you go back, I don't care what you do. Unlike the rest off them, I WANT YOU TO DO, WHATEVER YOU WANT. You one, and I find the win fair so you can still continue on if you like. But if you feel, everyone who voted didn't vote fairly, then stick by your guns.
Elway4Prez 08/14/07
I've been talking to some other members and some people think I should still be in and some people think I did the right thing, so why don't we have a poll on whether or not I move on. That seems fair to me. It honestly doesn't matter to me, but I think everyone should decide.
DJTG_2010 08/14/07
Ok, my apologies, then.

Some of us are Frat members, could someone tell Kentucky he has to give back his rightly won championship because people voted for him after he sent out a fair email asking people to vote for the best argument? He must not have been aware that every single one of the 71 votes he got required a comment in order to be valid.
Neal Coolong 08/14/07
Cooz, if I had sent out the FanMails with 4 hours left, got a bunch of comments, and won, I would've been cool with it. But the fact I got an 8-1 run in 20 minutes with no comments just doesn't seem right to me.
DJTG_2010 08/14/07
Wait, so the situation is that DJ sent out an email asking people to vote on the TD he and Schwartz had, and because that email resulted in a heavy amount of votes for DJ, he is declaring himself the loser?

Umm...I sent out an email that resulted in 10 votes going to my opponent, and never once thought my opponent doesn't deserve to win.
Neal Coolong 08/14/07
Yeah I shouldn't have phrased it that way. Sorry man. What you did is what anyone would do in your situation. Its you felt that the people didnt read the arguements entirely. You've earned yourself a reserve spot in our next if youd like.
Elway4Prez 08/14/07
me and League of Shadows have finished. here's the link

http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/49926
ballplayr9 08/13/07
I respect DJTG_2010 for doing that. You should get an automatic spot in the next tourney.

By the way, check out the TD between me and Ryan Leaf. It's finished now.

http://fannation.com/throwdowns/show/49838
rowyho 08/13/07
yeah don't accuse Dr. Cool here of doing anything unfair. All that happend was that he sent out a couple of "fanmails" to get votes in out TD, we only had 13 total at the time. People that saw this must have thought he was asking for votes and his numbers jumped 8 votes or so in the final 20 min without a single comment.

DJTG had even mentioned before that he even thought i had a better team, and was shoucked to see that he came back in the final seconds. And to clear his name from any wrong doings he does not feel right taking what seems like a tainted win.

A show of class that i think this group represents.
BSchwartz07 08/13/07
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/49498

be sure to wote in mine and League of Shadows's throwdown its a good one
ballplayr9 08/13/07
I'm not saying what I did was unfair. I just think it was unfair that I won. My actions are totally justifiable.
DJTG_2010 08/13/07
Dj won but is giving up his spot to Bschwartz because he thought what he did wasn't fair. Thank you for being unselfish and honest. I wish there was more of you in our tourney.

(16)TheGreat1
(2)Elway4prez
(9)Kentuckyfan1
(11)Green&Gold
(4)Bschwartz07
Elway4Prez 08/13/07
I'm not moving on. I'm cedeing my spot to BSchwartz. Look at the seconds comment page. I state my explanation there.
DJTG_2010 08/12/07
I started the throwdown with ballplyr.
LoS-I Am Torgo 08/12/07
right now, the matchups would be

(2)Elway4prez VS (16)TheGreat1

(9)Kentuckyfan1 vs (11)Green&Gold
Elway4Prez 08/12/07
Wow.... out of all four of the first round matchups, im the only higher seed to win. Its always exciting.
Elway4Prez 08/12/07
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/49838

1)steelercooz vs 16)thegreat1
Winner- 16)thegreat1

2)elway4prez vs 15)eaglefan in st. louis
Winner-2)elway4prez

3)uofmrules vs 14)phillyfan
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/49384

4)bschwartz07 vs 13)djtg_2010
go to R1 links for correct link

5)ballplyr9 vs 12)leagueofshadows
WILL STAT SUNDAY!!

6)yankeeslifer vs 11)green&gold
Winner (11)green&gold

7)my team chose ryan leaf! vs 10)rockoutwithyourhawkout
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/49838

8)lanalikebrady vs 9)kentuckyfan1
winnner -(9)kentuckyfan1
Elway4Prez 08/12/07
Moving on....
(16)TheGreat1
(2)Elway4prez
(9)Kentuckyfan1
(11)Green&Gold
Elway4Prez 08/12/07
1)steelercooz vs 16)thegreat1
Winner- 16)thegreat1

2)elway4prez vs 15)eaglefan in st. louis
Winner-2)elway4prez

3)uofmrules vs 14)phillyfan
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/49384

4)bschwartz07 vs 13)djtg_2010
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/49345

5)ballplyr9 vs 12)leagueofshadows
WILL STAT SUNDAY!!

6)yankeeslifer vs 11)green&gold
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/49495

7)my team chose ryan leaf! vs 10)rockoutwithyourhawkout
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/49537

8)lanalikebrady vs 9)kentuckyfan1
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/49677
Elway4Prez 08/11/07
Congrats on the the win Thegreat1. Biggiest upset in the history of OATTA. A sixteen taking down the former champ. Makes things easier for me...
Elway4Prez 08/10/07
ok, I made a new throwdown http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/49495
If you haven't gone on a voted DO IT!
It's tied and I know Elway doesn't want to haev to deal with that mess.

http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/49236
TheGreat1 08/10/07
1)NBA: The Thug image of many NBA players is what has made the league as popular as it has become

XXX2)Make a team full of MLB players 22 or under.XXX Chosen by (13)Djtg_2010

XXX3)NFL team with the best homegrown talent (Played entire career with that team). XXX chosen by (6)yankeeslifer

XXX4) NFL Preseason games should be cut from 5/4 to 3.XXX(5)Ballplyr9

XXX5)Who will win the east in the NBA next year.XXX (3)Uofmrules

6)Make a team, including a backup for each position of remaining NBA free agents and compare.

XXX7)______ will be the most popular in 20 years. XXX (10)Rockoutwithyourhawkout

XXX8)Which NFL team, in 2007, is the most likely to go the longest undefeated?XXX chosen by (16)TheGreat1

XXX9)Name your top 3 MLB players not currently in the 40-40 club who have the best chance of getting there.XXX Chosen by (15)Eagles Fan in St Louis
Elway4Prez 08/10/07
No i picked the toic you chose a side and start the TD.
ballplayr9 08/10/07
So...I'm waiting for ballplyr then?
LoS-I Am Torgo 08/10/07
Mines up and running http://fannation.com/throwdowns/show/49401
Steelercooz and I have started our TD. We only have 26 votes total but there are 32 members as of now.
Do your duty and cast your vote. It's an interesting argument and I think we have both made solid points. Please check it out and vote guys.

http://fannation.com/throwdowns/show/49236
TheGreat1 08/10/07
So when do the rest of us start our throwdowns?
LoS-I Am Torgo 08/09/07
The sides chosen in the OATTA II first round match-up of TheGreat1 and Steelercooz might surprise you...

http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/49236

Vote for the best argument!
TheGreat1 08/09/07
lol the asterisk on OATTA is great.
PhillyFan 08/09/07
OATTA II has begun...
TheGreat1 vs. Steelercooz
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/49236
Neal Coolong 08/09/07
Wow...Chanhassen High School...will that be like Minnetonka, Shorewood and Chaska mixed?

Yeah, I just put the asterisk on there to show everyone that Bonds doesn't need one on his name for people to know him as the illegitimate home run champ.
Neal Coolong 08/09/07
check out oattas new name. yeah i like to follow trends. lol
Elway4Prez 08/09/07
Steelercooz, that one made me laugh. Did you hear that Chanhassen is getting a high school? They'll be the Chanhassen Storm (apparently because we have the weather ball).
rowyho 08/08/07
I'm just doing it for the hell of it, but everyone else is doing it to protest Bonds hitting 756.
Big Ben68 08/08/07
is everyone doing the * for the hell of it or is it some club?
Elway4Prez 08/08/07
Yes...I love telling people that one. It is, perhaps, the least heterosxual sounding team name in the state. Well, the Blooming Prairie Blossoms is pretty bad.
Neal Coolong 08/08/07
1)NBA: The Thug image of many NBA players is what has made the league as popular as it has become
2)Make a team full of MLB players 22 or under.
3)NFL team with the best homegrown talent (Played entire career with that team).
4) NFL Preseason games should be cut from 5/4 to 3.
5)Who will win the east in the NBA next year.
6)Make a team, including a backup for each position of remaining NBA free agents and compare.
7)______ will be the most popular in 20 years.
XXX8)Which NFL team, in 2007, is the most likely to go the longest undefeated?XXX chosen by (16)TheGreat1
XXX9)Name your top 3 MLB players not currently in the 40-40 club who have the best chance of getting there.XXX Chosen by (15)Eagles Fan in St Louis
Elway4Prez 08/08/07
Ah, a proud Skipper!
rowyho 08/08/07
I'm from Minnetonka, I told you that.
Neal Coolong 08/08/07
The Chanhassen Villager? Maybe the Chaska Herald? Haha.

Steelercooz, are you from Chanhassen?
rowyho 08/07/07
Rockout, if you did, there's no way you're not getting a full feature in the Sun-Sailor, or Sun-Current, or whatever Chanhassen has...
Neal Coolong 08/07/07
Thanks for letting me join I look forward to doing throwdowns with u all. Please feel free to send me links to throwdowns blogs ect thats all thanks agian.
KentuckyFan#1 08/07/07
1)NBA: The Thug image of many NBA players is what has made the league as popular as it has become
2)Make a team full of MLB players 22 or under.
3)NFL team with the best homegrown talent (Played entire career with that team).
4) NFL Preseason games should be cut from 5/4 to 3.
5)Who will win the east in the NBA next year.
6)Make a team, including a backup for each position of remaining NBA free agents and compare.
7)______ will be the most popular in 20 years.
8)Which NFL team, in 2007, is the most likely to go the longest undefeated?
Elway4Prez 08/07/07
what im losing in the first. wow im a 2 seed.
Elway4Prez 08/07/07
Well with re-seeding, chances are Lana wouldn't face Steelercooz... I was taking that into consideration.
rowyho 08/07/07
Lana over Steelercooz? I don't know. It'd be tough,
G.O.A.T. 08/07/07
I'll do my best to live up to G.O.A.T.'s expectations... but beating Ryan Leaf, Eagles Fan, Steelercooz, and DJTG sure wouldn't be easy.

Nice looking predictions, but I would have Lana in the Final 4.
rowyho 08/07/07
This guy is so ignorant towards soccer it is unbelievable. Come check it out.
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/48968
G.O.A.T. 08/07/07
I'm not sure if I have these matchups right but here goes:

rockoutwithyourhawkout over Steelercooz
DJTG_2010 over Green&Gold

AND MY PICK FOR THE CHAMPIONSHIP:
rockoutwithyourhawkout over DJTG_2010

These are just predictions of course.
G.O.A.T. 08/07/07
Here are my second round picks:

Steelercooz over LanaLikesBrady
rockoutwithyourhawkout over Eagles Fan in St. Louis
Green&Gold over uofmrules
DJTG_2010 over ballplyr9

Once again, Cooz vs. Lana could be the championship.
G.O.A.T. 08/07/07
Here are my picks for the first round:
Steelercooz over TheGreat1
Eagles Fan in St. Louis over Elway4Prez
uofmrules over phillyfan
DJTG_2010 over BSchwartz07
ballplyr9 over League of Shadows
Green&Gold over yankeeslifer
rockoutwithyourhawkout over My Team Chose Ryan Leaf!
LanaLikesBrady over kentuckyfan1

By the way, Lana vs. kentucky should NOT be a first round game. It would be better as a championship. How did you do the seeding for this?
G.O.A.T. 08/07/07
I don't think it's going to happen, Great1.
G.O.A.T. 08/07/07
i forsee the first time a 16 upsets a 1 here guys.
maybe, maybe not. good luck everyone
TheGreat1 08/07/07
Cooz, you picked an amazing new logo. Thank you so very much.
G.O.A.T. 08/07/07
Nice, apparently I was the top-seeded newbie (n00b?) for this tourney.
rowyho 08/07/07
1)NBA: The "Thug" image of many NBA players is what has made the league as popular as it has become
2)Make a team full of MLB players 22 or under.
3)NFL team with the best homegrown talent (Played entire career with that team).
4) NFL Preseason games should be cut from 5/4 to 3.
5)Who will win the east in the NBA next year.
6)Make a team, including a backup for each position of remaining NBA free agents and compare.
7)______ will be the most popular in 20 years.
Elway4Prez 08/07/07
i know the make me put spaces between everyones names.
Elway4Prez 08/07/07
LOL, the guys with the two LONGEST user names are versing each other...LOL
Big Ben68 08/06/07
1)steelercooz vs 16)thegreat1

2)elway4prez vs 15)eaglefan in st. louis

3)uofmrules vs 14)phillyfan

4)bschwartz07 vs 13)djtg_2010

5)ballplyr9 vs 12)leagueofshadows

6)yankeeslifer vs 11)green&gold

7)my team chose ryan leaf! vs 10)rockoutwithyourhawkout

8)lanalikebrady vs 9)kentuckyfan1
Elway4Prez 08/06/07
2nd tourney seeding
1)steelercooz
2)elway4prez
3)uofmrules
4)bschwartz07
5)ballplyr9
6)yankeeslifer
7)my team chose ryan leaf!
8)lanalikebrady
9)kentuckyfan1
10)rockoutwithyourhawkout
11)green&gold
12)leagueofshadows
13)djtg_2010
14)phillyfan
15)eaglefan in st. louis
16)thegreat1
Elway4Prez 08/06/07
yeah hell i just need him to send it to me so i can put it up.
Elway4Prez 08/06/07
hey where is our logo? though the winner of the tourney was supposed to pick one?
BSchwartz07 08/06/07
final list!! sry if you didnt make the cut.

elway4prez
bschwartz07
uofmrules
ballplyr9
lanalikesbrady
steelercooz
djtg_2010
phillyfan is the polish rifle
kentuckyfan1
my team chose ryan leaf!!
yankeeslifer
rockwithyourhawkout
league of shadows
eaglefan in st louis
green&amp:gold
thegreat1
Elway4Prez 08/06/07
I wanna be in the tourney
RHATER is Gone. 08/06/07
Ok, Let's get this tournament rollin!
I'm in for the tourney.
LoS-I Am Torgo 08/06/07
Really? I always pronounced it WAH-tah. haha
G.O.A.T. 08/06/07
O-TA. lol glad to have you in the tourney.
Elway4Prez 08/06/07
So guys, I'm new to this group (I had always pronounced it "Ottawa" before). I know most of you here from this site, and I'm pretty thrilled to be in this group. That's all I have to say for now.
rowyho 08/06/07
Ben its cuz i dont give a damn about him. I just put him on the trading blocks if you wanna give me offers. I wanna top notch wr, like holt lol.
Elway4Prez 08/06/07
I'm interested in the tourney.
rowyho 08/06/07
You spelled Addai wrong...how do you do that!?!?!? You drafted him!!!
Big Ben68 08/06/07
elway4prez
bschwartz07
uofmrules
ballplyr9
lanalikesbrady
steelercooz
djtg_2010
phillyfan is the polish rifle
kentuckyfan1
my team chose ryan leaf!!
yankeeslifer
rockwithyourhawkout

we have twelve now. 4 spots left so hurry!
Elway4Prez 08/06/07
elway4prez
bschwartz07
uofmrules
ballplyr9
lanalikesbrady
steelercooz
djtg_2010
phillyfan is the polish rifle
kentuckyfan1
my team chose ryan leaf!!
yankeeslifer

that makes 11. were looking for five more
Elway4Prez 08/05/07
check out the new poll anyone? im doing random ones while we get the tourney together.
Elway4Prez 08/05/07
it says hes still in here but i got rid of him.
Elway4Prez 08/05/07
o yeah. i remember. haha i like politley asked him to leave. thats much easier.
Elway4Prez 08/05/07
Elway, all you have to do is under Member Status it will say yes, just hit the "Remove" button. If you can't figure it out, make me an admin for a sec and I'll do it for ya...
Big Ben68 08/05/07
Im doing our 2nd tourneys seeding different. Youll be ranked on how far you went in our last tourney. Ex: Steelercooz will be a one seed, I'll be a two ex. Everyone who lost in the final four will come next. Their tie will be broken by who has the better when precentage. Then comes the next 8 and theyll be broken down by win precentage too. Then comes who lost in the 2nd round and the first round, all determined by win precentage. All new comers will be seeded after, giving them the low seeds. Theyll have to prove themselves since I don't think they should be ranked higher than some who participated in our first. I think this system will be fair. If you have any comments, just tell me. Thx
Elway4Prez 08/05/07
2nd Group Tourney Lineup:
elway4prez
bschwartz07
uofmrules
ballplyr9
lanalikesbrady
steelercooz
djtg_2010
phillyfan is the polish rifle
Elway4Prez 08/05/07
i dont think i put philly man 311 through. ill try to get rid of him.
Elway4Prez 08/05/07
Thank you, thank you...I would like to extend my congratulations to Elway for a great championship TD and for organizing a very smooth and enjoyable tournament. We rolled with a few situations very efficiently and he had to make a few tough calls, which he did with fairness and honesty.

It was a really good tournament, and having to take down Chris Cole, PlayAngryFan, BSchwartz07 and Elway4Prez was an extremely difficult task, one that likely will not be repeated. I encourage anyone looking for some good competition to enter the next tournament. The fact a 10-seed and a 6-seed were in the championship just shows the depth we have in this group, so sign up and give it h3ll!
Neal Coolong 08/05/07
Put up the iron curtain Steeler.
Uofmrules* BS 08/05/07
we already turned him down, and he didn't get better
Uofmrules* BS 08/05/07
why the hell did we add phillyman?
Uofmrules* BS 08/05/07
I F*CKING CALLED IT!!!


HELL YEAH, I CALLED AN ELWAY4PREZ AND STEELERCOOZ CHAMPIONSHP AND A STEELERCOOZ WIN....


Damn I am good...
Big Ben68 08/05/07
STEELERCOOZ DEFEATED ELWAY4PREZ 30-20 FOR THE OATTA CHAMPIONSHIP. CONGRATIONS STEELERCOOZ AND THANK YOU ALL WHO PARTICIPATED. MAKE SURE YOU CLAIM YOUR POSITION FOR THE NEXT TOURNEY. I BELIEVE WE HAVE 12 OPEN SPOTS.
Elway4Prez 08/05/07
The final has begun. Here is the link:
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/48406

Check it out. Im going for 60-70 total votes. We can get half of that with our group alone. So get out there and check it out!
Elway4Prez 08/03/07
Wow, you are the higher seed too, Elway, yet Steeler has a vote of 4 on you...
Big Ben68 08/03/07
The topic steelercooz and i agreed to is "Which is the biggiest blackeye for there respective sports, the gambling referee, michael vick dogfitting, or barry bonds with the allegations of steriods breaking the home run record?" I think its pretty interesting.
Elway4Prez 08/03/07
judging by the poll, im the underdog. i hope everyone doesnt vote that way.
Elway4Prez 08/03/07
Look at this throwdown I'm in. Please read the arguments and NOT just the topic. Thanks.

http://fannation.com/throwdowns/show/47837
G.O.A.T. 07/31/07
Topic: Out of baseball, basketball, and football which sport has changed the most throughout its history. (rules, stats, ect..)
MTC Ryan Leaf!! 07/30/07
Alright im gonna delete the poll. Final tally -Elway4prez-12 uofmrules-8. Good td man.
Elway4Prez 07/29/07
finally its over...
Uofmrules* BS 07/29/07
ONE MORE VOTE FOR ELWAY AND HE WINS!!!
Big Ben68 07/29/07
I voted for uofmrules. I'm not a big Horford fan, but I do think that the big man has a better chance at ROY.
kentuckyfan1 07/29/07
lol Steelercooz, I'm a 15 year old, in the future, I just don't want to pay 25 bucks for a 6 pack or buy a bunch wine. I do have 6 years to legally think this over. lol.
DJTG_2010 07/28/07
Anyone see GOATS new blog. Were ranked number two!!!
Elway4Prez 07/28/07
Who doesn't like sex?


Also, I voted for Elway!! I want to see my prediction come true...

Steelercooz vs. Elway4prez...


And Steelercooz pulls out a well argued victory.
Big Ben68 07/28/07
Come check out my throwdown about who will have the best record next year in the NBA.

http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/47403
G.O.A.T. 07/28/07
VERY NICE!!!!
Elway4Prez 07/28/07
i like sex
Uofmrules* BS 07/28/07
I'll break the suspense, DJ. Having a drink doesn't make you an alcoholic. In fact, passing on one drink makes you far more questionable than having 10. We've done studies.

I think it ends in a tie at 11.
Neal Coolong 07/27/07
The voting's tied 5-5. How will this end up? haha
G.O.A.T. 07/27/07
lol it's just a lifestyle I am trying to avoid.

I am pretty different. lol.
DJTG_2010 07/27/07
LOL! DJ, you'd rather not drink if being able to drink means you have to buy wine in a six-pack.
Neal Coolong 07/27/07
ATTENTION ALL OATTA MEMBERS!!!!!!!!!!

Uofmrules and my TD just finished. It ended in a tie, 29-29. Instead of creating another for the sake of time I've decided to do an all group vote. First Player to 12 votes wins the TD and moves on to face Steelercooz. PLEASE READ THE COMPLETE TD BEFORE VOTING. Here is the link: http://fannation.com/throwdowns/show/46685


DO YOUR JOB AS MEMBERS AND VOTE!!!!!!!!! WE ONLY HAVE 29 MEMBERS SO EVERY VOTE COUNTS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Elway4Prez 07/27/07
And because of not being able to eat wheat, oats, rye, or barley, the only stuff I can have from Pizza Hut are salads and that is risking cross contamination.
DJTG_2010 07/27/07
Well 'Cooz, my ideology of being "straight edge" is no drugs or alcohol or smoking. Being straight edge was made popular by American hardcore bands of the early 1980's, some of whom have influenced me immensely. So yeah, no drugs, alcohol, or smoking for me. Of course, I am allergic to wheat, oats, rye, and barley, the bases of many beers, so even if I could drink, I would have to stick to wine and it would cost me $30 for a six pack.
DJTG_2010 07/27/07
Check out my throwdown about the worst gambling scandal in sports history.

http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/46902
G.O.A.T. 07/26/07
I didn't say anything was wrong with it, I'm just saying the majority of your Philly sisters aren't even worth breaking the wrapper, if you hear me. You're more the club aficianado (sp?)that I am.

And again, I don't know what else to tell ya, except she's got the local places pretty well mapped out - meaning she has them on speed dial and has put the delivery guy through two years of college. I guess she decided to go slumming for the sake of variety.

Dj, what are you talking about? Your goal is to stay "straight edge"? Does that mean you don't want to drink, go to clubs or order Pizza Hut?
Neal Coolong 07/26/07
lol nice man nice
i didn't know that we turned this in to a porn group
A* shizzle* BS 07/26/07
She may be big and lover her some pizza BUT no way a fat chick from philly suggested the "hut. A native big girl would know where ALL the best local places were... and BTW whats wrong with going clubbing cooz??? You don;t like getting laid and booze?? Trust me here in new orleans there are 3 things done way better than anywhere else in the country- b o obs, booze, and food... bring your beads and your appetite... (and plenty of condoms)
mikesteelnation1 07/26/07
At the risk of sounding naive for my age, it is my goal to stay straight edge as long as possible. Who knows how long I can make it.
DJTG_2010 07/25/07
I don't know where she's from, but she's large, and she loves her some pizza.

Yeah, we whole-heartedly support those who choose not to drink <AHEM>...

jk Ben, I don't drink either. Well, I do, just not often. Maybe once a month, I'll have a beer. We can't all be club-bumpers like Mike.
Neal Coolong 07/25/07
happy big ben....
Elway4Prez 07/25/07
Also, when are we going to shorten the name of the group to just OATTA?
Big Ben68 07/24/07
Plus, there are ways for underaged people to get beer, but I don't drink any alcohol...
Big Ben68 07/24/07
I'm talking about the naked women, Steelercooz!!!
Big Ben68 07/24/07
Cooz- A chick IN PHILLY suggested Pizza Hut?!?!?! I call bull sh*t... NO WAY... she must not be from there...
mikesteelnation1 07/24/07
if you wanna.
Elway4Prez 07/24/07
So am I going to be in the next tourney?
DJTG_2010 07/24/07
steelercooz vs bschwartz07

http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/46436

DO IT
Elway4Prez 07/24/07
alright i just found moh cant do it. should we just let steelercooz move on or should we find someone else?
Elway4Prez 07/23/07
It does, Ben. He can buy beer. You can't.
Neal Coolong 07/23/07
How long does this first tournament go till?
DJTG_2010 07/23/07
I'm 17 uofmrules...but does it make a difference?
Big Ben68 07/22/07
That was s.k.a.n.k. and s.l.u.t.t.y.
Neal Coolong 07/22/07
Nice GOAT...My cousin went to college there. I think she's kind of a ****, and I know she's got plenty of **** friends. I'll pass your name along...wait, how old are you?
Neal Coolong 07/22/07
Scranton has very good pizza.
G.O.A.T. 07/22/07
1. Some moron wanted to order Pizza Hut at work on Friday. I just laughed at her and told her since I moved to Philly I ain't nevuh again ordering pizza from any place without a heavy Italian name.

2. Yes, naked women are good. Well, most of them anyway. But when I win, it's going to be a picture of the Steelers Super Bowl XL champion ring.

Nah, nevermind. Naked women!
Neal Coolong 07/22/07
were the hell is bpeepers at. were just waiting on him to get this thing rolling.
Elway4Prez 07/21/07
is there anyone in here younger than me? im 21
Uofmrules* BS 07/21/07
let's further refine that- Pizza is GREAT. BUT totally depending on where you live. Let me tell ya- being from Philly I miss the Pizza. I dare someone to find a half decent pizza in new orleans.... lol
mikesteelnation1 07/21/07
shoo lets hope you win. lol
Elway4Prez 07/21/07
well since im going to win the tourney i would like to have a naked women as our group picture
Uofmrules* BS 07/21/07
Yes. Yes it is.
Neal Coolong 07/21/07
pizza is good
Uofmrules* BS 07/21/07
lmao i deffinately no where near the other elway.
Elway4Prez 07/20/07
Elway, the only way your effort could match your name is if you were staring 98 yards of brown Browns turf head-on with a buck fiddy six left on the clock. But you're doing a great job all the same.
Neal Coolong 07/20/07
Thx man. At least someone appreciates the job im doing.
Elway4Prez 07/20/07
FINAL TOPIC LIST!!!! TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK!!!

1)Which NFL player whose currently retired, got the most out of the talent they had? (Meaning he got far with little talent or he made them look better etc....)

2)If you could choose any mlb player, besides a-rod, at this point to start a new franchise who would it be?

3)Which rookie judging by their situation, besides Durant and Oden, has the best chance to win ROY?
Elway4Prez 07/20/07
im thinking first option to get three or four votes wins.
Elway4Prez 07/19/07
Fair enough
Neal Coolong 07/19/07
I do not if ill take it. Youve said nothing of anyone else when theyve taken the ones they suggested. i really dont think its a big deal. cuz if i do pick it then the other person gets the first arguement.
Elway4Prez 07/19/07
Heres a topic ive been thinking of doing but think you guys could do it better in a tourny setting. Its out of the 3 major sports(baseball, basketball, football) which sport has changed the most. for example the rule changes, addition of a stat etc..
MTC Ryan Leaf!! 07/19/07
I can see the value of the topic (it is a bit general, though, which can be good and bad), but you aren't going to assign that to yourself, right? Cuz that's not really cool, in my mind.
Neal Coolong 07/19/07
HERE IS ONE TOPIC IM KEEPING FOR SURE

Which NFL player whose currently retired, got the most out of the talent they had? (Meaning he got far with little talent or he made them look better etc...)
Elway4Prez 07/19/07
i totally meant wat steelercooz said....
Elway4Prez 07/18/07
yup yup im a tard. i did that in my first poll but then i didnt think it was right. sh****t!!!
Elway4Prez 07/18/07
I think he put the option in there that the best Throwdown could be in the semifinals. Like how people say the AFC Championship game is the real Super Bowl, because the NFC Champion is going to get whipped by the AFC Champion.

Not saying I agree...just translating.
Neal Coolong 07/18/07
yeah shouldnt the middle two not be there cuz they're the semi matchups
ballplayr9 07/18/07
I think that poll is messed up. Shouldnt there only be 4 choices?
bpeepers vs. uofmrules
bpeepers vs. elway4prez
steelercooz vs. uofmrules
steelercooz vs. elway4prez

right or am i missing something?
ballplayr9 07/18/07
of corse. im gonna try 32 even tho it may be a little difficult.
Elway4Prez 07/17/07
Hey i know its a little early but....we're gonna have another one right after this one ends, right?
ballplayr9 07/17/07
steelercooz said want ive been trying to say perfectly. it sux that everyone isnt doing there jobs as members. i always read every arguement, vote, and try to leave a comment. it would be great if you could all do the same. thx steelercooz
Elway4Prez 07/16/07
well i'm back a little to late it seems
A* shizzle* BS 07/15/07
Hey guys, come check out this throwdown that I'm in. Please vote for the better argument. Thanks.

http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/39325
G.O.A.T. 07/15/07
Nice rant, Steelercooz.
G.O.A.T. 07/15/07
I voted for every TD that's been set up in this group, but I think it's more important to leave comments. I would like to point out that PlayAngry and I are currently waiting for the results of the Best Throwdown That No One Ever Saw. There are some of us here in the Fraternity as well, and this sort of goes along the same lines as what I just said in there.

We want the OATTA in the title to make people think/know it's going to be a great TD, which all have been so far. The TDs that show up in the Community page are the most active ones. So we need to constantly leave comments and vote at the point we feel it has been earned. This gets more people out to vote, and makes our group one of the most recognized on the site.

Make a vote, but more importantly, leave a comment, talk some smack, or whatever it is you do. This gets that particular TD on the community page, and that's when people open it and vote.

If we use GOAT's blog about the groups as a comparison, the one thing they have in common is they have a lot of members who are constantly active. I don't know about you guys, but I think it's more respectable to lose a 48-45 TD than it is to win a 12-8 one.

Rant over.
Neal Coolong 07/15/07
ballplyr is absolutely right. about 8 people in the group didnt vote but thats not including outside votes. you guys arent doing your part as members and it kinda sucks. just get out there and vote.
Elway4Prez 07/15/07
hey guys don't forget to vote in the TD tourney. Me and uofm had a great TD but not a lot of people voted. Im not complaining cause i lost, i just want to make sure there are a significant numbers of votes. Cmon guys, get out there and vote!!! thanks
ballplayr9 07/15/07
Were ranked the 4th best group on this sight by GOAT in his new blog!!!!!!!!!! Hell yeah! Check it out: http://fannation.com/blogs/post/40351
Elway4Prez 07/14/07
Most Current list 7/13 3 35pm
XXXX1)Which NFL team is most likely to have a turnaround this year?(Good to bad, or bad to good.) XXXX (2)Bpeepers

2)Which is better, good starters and average bullpen, or average starters and good bullpen?

XXXX3)Who will represent the NL in the world series?XXXX(13)BcSwartz07

4)Golden State Warriors: One Hit Wonder or Here to Stay?

XXXX5)Which NFL player will have a breakout season this upcoming year? (Either had an average year or was out of the spotlight)XXXX(5)Uofmrules
Elway4Prez 07/13/07
hey guys please check out the TD between me and uofmrules. its a great one but no one has voted yet. Find the link in the message board.
ballplayr9 07/13/07
Most Current list 7/12 7 54am
XXXX1)Which NFL team is most likely to have a turnaround this year?(Good to bad, or bad to good.) XXXX (2)Bpeepers

2)Which is better, good starters and average bullpen, or average starters and good bullpen?

3)Who will represent the NL in the world series?

4)Golden State Warriors: One Hit Wonder or Here to Stay?

XXXX5)Which NFL player will have a breakout season this upcoming year? (Either had an average year or was out of the spotlight)XXXX(5)Uofmrules
Elway4Prez 07/12/07
i choose #5
Uofmrules* BS 07/12/07
yeah were just waiting on uofmrules.
Elway4Prez 07/12/07
uofm and i are up next right?
ballplayr9 07/12/07
Most Current list 7/11 10 50pm
XXXX1)Which NFL team is most likely to have a turnaround this year?(Good to bad, or bad to good.) XXXX (2)Bpeepers

2)Which is better, good starters and average bullpen, or average starters and good bullpen?

3)Who will represent the NL in the world series?

4)Golden State Warriors: One Hit Wonder or Here to Stay?

5)Which NFL player will have a breakout season this upcoming year? (Either had an average year or was out of the spotlight)
Elway4Prez 07/12/07
Topic number 5 doesnt include rookies.
Elway4Prez 07/12/07
FINAL LIST
1)Which NFL team is most likely to have a turnaround this year?(Good to bad, or bad to good.)

2)Which is better, good starters and average bullpen, or average starters and good bullpen?

3)Who will represent the NL in the world series?

4)Golden State Warriors: One Hit Wonder or Here to Stay?

5)Which NFL player will have a breakout season this upcoming year? (Either had an average year or was out of the spotlight)
Elway4Prez 07/11/07
HEY PEOPLE IM SORRY FOR MESSING THIS UP THERE WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING. SORRY!!!!!
ballplayr9 07/11/07
1)Which NFL team is most likely to have a turnaround this year?(Good to bad, or bad to good.)

2)Which is better, good starters and average bullpen, or average starters and good bullpen?

3)Who will represent the NL in the world series?

4)Golden State Warriors: One Hit Wonder or Here to Stay?


WE NEED A NFL TOPIC TO REPLACE THE MANNING VS BRADY ONE. ANY SUGGESTIONS.
Elway4Prez 07/11/07
THESE ARE THE CORRECT MATCHUPS!!!!!!!!!!!
2nd round matchups.

(2) bpeepers VS (16) [MOH] Coach
(5) UofMrules VS (14)ballplayr9
(6)Elway4Prez vs (13)BcSchwartz07
(8)Playangryfan! Vs (10)Steelercooz
Elway4Prez 07/11/07
DONT START ANYTHING WITHOUT MY CONSENT. BALLPLYR9 IS DOING IT INCORRECT.
Elway4Prez 07/11/07
wtf dude i never said you could do anything. i was gone less than i day. shoo dont listen to ballplayr he is not in control.
Elway4Prez 07/11/07
Looks like members dont want the Manning/Brady topic. What is the replacement?
Round 2 Qualifiers:
(2) bpeepers
(14) ballplayr9
(13) BcSchwartz07
(6) Elway4Prez
(10) Steelercooz
(8) Playangryfan!
(5) UofMrules
(16) [MOH] Coach
ballplayr9 07/10/07
Put it in as part of the motto.
Big Ben68 07/10/07
yeah i will after the first tourney, people just dont autmatically know what it means so its hard for people to check out our group.
Elway4Prez 07/10/07
lol ben has a point
Uofmrules* BS 07/10/07
Can we shorten the title of this group to maybe just OATTA since the point of an abbreviation is so you don't have to write out the whole thing?
Big Ben68 07/09/07
Only one left

(2)bpeepers
(14)ballplyr9
(13)BcSchwartz07
(6)Elway4Prez
(10)Steelercooz
(8)Playangryfan!
(5)UofMrules
Elway4Prez 07/09/07
uofmrules just won so chargerzzz vs. [MOH] Coach is the last one left.
ballplayr9 07/09/07
so the only two still going are
uofm vs. yankeeslifer
chargerzzz vs. MOHCoach
Right?
ballplayr9 07/09/07
A Shizzle hasnt responded in 3 days so were just going to move on. Playangryfan! can finish it but in our tourney he is moving on.

EVERYONE MOVING ON SO FAR.

(2)bpeepers
(14)ballplyr9
(13)BcSchwartz07
(6)Elway4Prez
(10)Steelercooz
(8)Playangryfan!
Elway4Prez 07/09/07
Good, cant wait to see who wins this thing.
i think we have enough quality topics in the message board to start making a pool and really preping for the second round
ballplayr9 07/09/07
Thanks, uof.
heres the TD link
http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/30821
Uofmrules* BS 07/08/07
Alright, I've made my Throwdown with uofmrules.
thegreat1 hasnt responded in like 4 days so were gonna replace him and move on. heres the new and final seeding for the first round.

(1)chargerzzz vs (16) [MOH] Coach
(2)bpeepers vs (15) MTCRL!
(3)CDH vs (14) BallPlayr9
(4)MAC: Damage Inc. vs (13)BcSch07
(5)uofmrules vs (12) Yankeeslifer
(6)Elway4Prez vs (11) Phillyfan
(7)Chris Cole vs (10) Steelercooz
(8)Playangryfan! vs (9)A shizzle
Elway4Prez 07/08/07
EVERYONE MOVING ON SO FAR.

(2)bpeepers
(14)ballplyr9
(13)BcSchwartz07
(6)Elway4Prez
(10)Steelercooz
Elway4Prez 07/08/07
will still have three throwdowns two go. one hasnt even started. but sure why not ill make a post.
Elway4Prez 07/08/07
do we want to start thinking about topics for the second round?
ballplayr9 07/08/07
(1)chargerzzz vs (16) [MOH] Coach
(2)bpeepers vs (15) MTCRL!
(3)CDH vs (14) BallPlayr9
(4)MAC: Damage Inc. vs (13)BcSch07
(5)uofmrules vs (12) TheGreat1
(6)Elway4Prez vs (11) Phillyfan
(7)Chris Cole vs (10) Steelercooz
(8)Playangryfan! vs (9)A shizzle
Elway4Prez 07/08/07
i think it makes it more exciting. more equal. it will be far more lopsided if they get both. you can choose to pick the topic or let your opponent pick the topic and you get the first arguement.
Elway4Prez 07/07/07
i would have to agree
Uofmrules* BS 07/06/07
Just a sugestion but i think it would be better if the Higher seeds got to pick the topic and make the throwdown so we get 1st selection....... im not gonna complain cause i was gonan take urlacher and scramble to find another player that was his skill but just for next throwdown the higher seed should get 1st selection.
CDH 07/06/07
so far it looks like getting to choose what side to argue has given the underdogs the underhand...will see if it continues..good TDs guys.
Uofmrules* BS 07/06/07
My TD with Schwartz just ended its 24hr voting. Schwartz won 18-16.
Great TD by Cole and Steeler
This is the best Throwdown I've ever been in, so you're gonna want to check it out if you want to read a great topic that is well-argued. Truly great stuff, Chris.

http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/28136
Neal Coolong 07/06/07
(7) ChrisCole vs. (10) Steelercooz

http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/28136
Neal Coolong 07/06/07
good throwdown schwartz and mac. its gonna be a close one.
Elway4Prez 07/06/07
MJD is WAY better than Turner, vote to you Mac.
Big Ben68 07/06/07
Its so far 15-14 in my TD with Schwarz leading. Plenty of time left, but I'll just say in all honesty he beat me, even if doesnt "win", he really won. Good luck to him and the rest who move on.
someone else pulled out...my opponent this time heres the new matchups.


(1)chargerzzz vs (16) [MOH] Coach
(2)bpeepers vs (15) MTCRL!
(3)CDH vs (14) BallPlayr9
(4)MAC: Damage Inc. vs (13)BcSch07
(5)uofmrules vs (12) TheGreat1
(6)Elway4Prez vs (11) Phillyfan
(7)Chris Cole vs (10) Steelercooz
(8)Playangryfan! vs (9)A shizzle
Elway4Prez 07/05/07
Lana pulled out i guess so we have someone to replace her.
HERES THE NEW LINEUP.

someone else pulled out so heres the new lineup

(1)chargerzzz vs (16) [MOH] Coach
(2)bpeepers vs (15) MTCRL!
(3)CDH vs (14) BallPlayr9
(4)MAC: Damage Inc. vs (13)BcSch07
(5)uofmrules vs (12) TheGreat1
(6)Elway4Prez vs (11) Coletrain
(7)Chris Cole vs (10) Steelercooz
(8)Playangryfan! vs (9)A shizzle
Elway4Prez 07/05/07
IVE DECIDED NOT TO COUNT THE SCHWARTZ VS LANA THROWDOWN. ITS NO ONES DESCION BUT MY OWN TO MAKE. SINCE SHE INCORRECTLY MADE IT A REMATCH IS THE FAIREST THING TO DO. ITS A TOUGH DESCION AND I KNOW EVERYONE DOESNT AGREE. PLEASE STILL VOTE FAIRLY SINCE THATS WHAT OUR GROUP IS ALL ABOUT. PLEEZ DONT HOLD A GRUDGE TOWARDS ANYONE AND JUST READ THE NEW THROWDOWN AND VOTE FOR WHOEVER MAKES THE BEST ARGUEMENTS. THANKS AND GOOD LUCK.
Elway4Prez 07/04/07
IMPORTANT!!

RYAN LEAF ACCIDENTLY MAD THE SAME THROWDOWN THE CDH CHOSE. CDH MADE HIS EARLY BECAUSE I ALLOWED HIM SO WERE GOING TO COUNT BOTH. SRY FOR THE MIXUP PLEEZ VOTE FAIRLY.
Elway4Prez 07/04/07
For the poll...
i have no idea about it don' really remember wat it was about srry
A* shizzle* BS 07/04/07
1)Who will win NL ROY?

XXX2)Which NBA team out of the top ten had the best draft. (Include draft day trades)XXX THIS TOPIC WAS SELCTED BY (1)CHARGERZZZ

XXX3)Which NFL team that missed the playoffs last year has the best chance to make it this year.XXX THIS TOPIC WAS REMOVED!

XXX4)If you were to build your defense from scratch, would you pick Champ Bailey or Brian Urlacher. XXX Chosen by (3)CDH

5) Most one-sided trade of the NBA draft.

6) Player that made the all-star
game that deserves it the least.

7)The MLB all-star game should not be open to player voting.

8)If you were a GM would you sign Tank Johnson.

9)Who will take the NL and AL wild cards?

10)Who is the best backup in the NFL?
Elway4Prez 07/04/07
my mistake. im on it.
Elway4Prez 07/04/07
topic #4 is gone me and CDH are doing it right now
ballplayr9 07/04/07
1)Who will win NL ROY?

XXX2)Which NBA team out of the top ten had the best draft. (Include draft day trades)XXX THIS TOPIC WAS SELCTED BY (1)CHARGERZZZ

XXX3)Which NFL team that missed the playoffs last year has the best chance to make it this year.XXX THIS TOPIC WAS REMOVED!

4)If you were to build your defense from scratch, would you pick Champ Bailey or Brian Urlacher.

5) Most one-sided trade of the NBA draft.

6) Player that made the all-star
game that deserves it the least.

7)The MLB all-star game should not be open to player voting.

8)If you were a GM would you sign Tank Johnson.

9)Who will take the NL and AL wild cards?

10)Who is the best backup in the NFL?
Elway4Prez 07/04/07
Good luck to everyone in the tourney.

Happy Fourth of July to Everyone!
G.O.A.T. 07/04/07
MAKE SURE YOU READ THE RULES. EVERYONE KEEPS TRYING TO SET UP THE THROWDOWNS WRONG. ITS ALL EXPLAINED IN THE BLOG MORE RULES. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ASK ME.
Elway4Prez 07/04/07
someone else pulled out so heres the new lineup

(1)chargerzzz vs (16) [MOH] Coach
(2)bpeepers vs (15) MTCRL!
(3)CDH vs (14) BallPlayr9
(4)lanalikebrady vs (13)BcSch07
(5)uofmrules vs (12) TheGreat1
(6)Elway4Prez vs (11) Coletrain
(7)Chris Cole vs (10) Steelercooz
(8)Playangryfan! vs (9)A shizzle
Elway4Prez 07/04/07
denner4 is also pulling out so if anyone can replace him just tell me.
Elway4Prez 07/04/07
IMPORTANT

CJBOSOX had to drop out and i really dont want to reseed cuz i wanna get this thing started so just gave his seed to uofmrules.

HERE IS THE FINAL SEEDING

(1)chargerzzz vs (16) denner4
(2)bpeepers vs (15) MTCRL!
(3)CDH vs (14) BallPlayr9
(4)lanalikebrady vs (13)BcSch07
(5)uofmrules vs (12) TheGreat1
(6)Elway4Prez vs (11) Coletrain
(7)Chris Cole vs (10) Steelercooz
(8)Playangryfan! vs (9)A shizzle
Elway4Prez 07/03/07
CJBOSOX had something come up and he has to pull out. we need someone not in the tourney to take his spot. they will get his seed for the first round. respond soon thx.
Elway4Prez 07/03/07
MAKE SURE YOU READ THE BLOG "MORE RULES" BEFORE WE BEGIN... I CANT STRESS THAT ENUF.
Elway4Prez 07/03/07
(1)chargerzzz vs (16) denner4
(2)bpeepers vs (15) MTCRL!
(3)CDH vs (14) BallPlayr9
(4)lanalikebrady vs (13)BcSch07
(5)CJBOSOX vs (12) TheGreat1
(6)Elway4Prez vs (11) Coletrain
(7)Chris Cole vs (10) Steelercooz
(8)Playangryfan! vs (9)A shizzle
Elway4Prez 07/03/07
LET IT COUNT, ELWAY!! IT IS AN AWESOME THROWDOWN!

What is the problem with it?
Big Ben68 07/03/07
1)Who will win NL ROY?

XXX2)Which NBA team out of the top ten had the best draft. (Include draft day trades)XXX THIS TOPIC WAS SELCTED BY (1)CHARGERZZZ

XXX3)Which NFL team that missed the playoffs last year has the best chance to make it this year.XXX THIS TOPIC WAS REMOVED!

4)If you were to build your defense from scratch, would you pick Champ Bailey or Brian Urlacher.

5) Most one-sided trade of the NBA draft.

6) Player that made the all-star
game that deserves it the least.

7)The MLB all-star game should not be open to player voting.

8)If you were a GM would you sign Tank Johnson.

9)Who will take the NL and AL wild cards?

10)Who is the best backup in the NFL?
Elway4Prez 07/03/07
IMPORTANT

(4)lanalikebrady vs (13)BcSch07 will not count. lana made the throwdown wrong so it will not count towards the tourney. im gonna add in another topic to replace it. MAKE SURE YOU READTHE RULES BEFORE WE BEGIN.
Elway4Prez 07/03/07
~GROUP MESSAGE~

We finally started our fisrt tourney. Make sure you read all the rules and make sure you check out who your facing in the seedng post. And check out all the topics in the topic pool. Chargerzzz has the first initiative so were just waiting on him. Thx for participating.
Elway4Prez 07/03/07
THE TOURNEY HAS BEGUN. GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE.
Elway4Prez 07/03/07
Check out my throwdown:

http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/25585
G.O.A.T. 07/03/07
for our throwdowns make sure you put
OATTA:____________
Elway4Prez 07/02/07
DONT POST IN DETERMINING THE NINE TOPICS. IT WILL NOT LET YOU. POST IT IN 9 TOPICS.
Elway4Prez 07/02/07
lol damn i no.
Elway4Prez 07/02/07
HUZZAH! Number 1 seed
Charazargerzzz* 07/02/07
WE HAVE SIXTEEN. WE CAN GET IT STARTED.
Elway4Prez 07/02/07
i think lanalikesbrady is in so thats 16. ill double check with her but if so i will create the seeding for the tourney.
Elway4Prez 07/02/07
will you be able to still be in the tourney. if so we can get it started finally.
Elway4Prez 07/02/07
I am in, have to tend to family, will be here to read up after all is said and done in the homestead.
LanaLikesBrady 07/02/07
once we get the tourney started im gonna post a message on the board called NARROWING DOWN THE TOPICS. in that room we will vote and determine 8 solid topics. Then i will make another group called topic pool for everyone to pick from.
Elway4Prez 07/02/07
Here is a throwdown I'm in:

http://www.fannation.com/throwdowns/show/25585
G.O.A.T. 07/02/07
with cris cole we got 14 and judging by bpeepers last comment hes in so that makes 15.

ONE MORE PERSON!!!
Elway4Prez 07/02/07
CHEATERS EXPOSED PLEASE READ

http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/30014

OYE!
Super-Levi 07/02/07
if ryan leaft and ballplayer are in we got thirteen.
Elway4Prez 07/02/07
we divy them out randomly everyone has there strong points and weak points. Its just part of the tourney.
Elway4Prez 07/02/07
im in as long as there are less nba topics and more mlb or nfl topics
ballplayr9 07/02/07
nvm bigben is out we need five more cuz i still dont no if eaglehater is in. i really wanna start this so do you guys have any nominations.
Elway4Prez 07/02/07
if eagle hater is in we got 13
Elway4Prez 07/01/07
IMPORTANT

FIRST ROUND TOPIC SUGGESTIONS WILL NOT LET YOU POST SO JUST POST YOUR SUGGESTIONS IN FIRST ROUND TOPICS!
Elway4Prez 07/01/07
I like all but 3. These throwdowns are always hard to deteremine because its just a guess really, Instead you should use:
Which Player got picked too high or too low.
Elway4Prez 07/01/07
The Group message board wont let me post this so here are 3 NBA related possiblitys.

1) Should the NBA playoff system be changed?

2) Will the Spurs repeat?

3) (Insert name) Will be a bust in the NBA

4) Which team had the best draft?
Charazargerzzz* 07/01/07
thanks fro the invite guys. let me know when we're gettting this thing underway
TheGreat1 07/01/07
big ben and eaglehater are you guys in the tourney?
Elway4Prez 07/01/07
Get LanaLikesBrady, Mikesteelnation1, GoatHCW, and kentuckyfan1
Big Ben68 06/30/07
i forgot playangryfan thats 8

WERE HALF WAY THERE!!
Elway4Prez 06/30/07
yeah thats fine that 7.
Elway4Prez 06/30/07
Can I be in the tourney????
denner4 06/30/07
okay so chargerzz is also in the tourney so we have 6. Are you in playangry fan.
Elway4Prez 06/29/07
add me
Charazargerzzz* 06/29/07
do you guys no anybody who would want to be in a tourney.
Elway4Prez 06/29/07
k correct me if im wrong but for our first tourney we got coletrain, me, bschwartz07, steelercooz, and shizzle right?
Elway4Prez 06/29/07
don't do the winning percentage cuz then i'm gonna be on the lower end but then we could have a big upset
ooh a conspirancy yes i love it lol
a shizzle
A* shizzle* BS 06/29/07
Yeah, thanks guys!
Neal Coolong 06/29/07
Yes
Coletrain 06/29/07
coletrain are you in?
Elway4Prez 06/29/07
Thanks for inviting me, guys.
Coletrain 06/29/07
i'm in the Frat tourney, but i plan on doing both.
BSchwartz07 06/29/07
its cool bro i understand. i just knew that your fair and you have a lot of sports knowledge. but do you know anyone else that would be willing to join.
Elway4Prez 06/29/07
I'm in but I don't think I'll be in the first tourney because I'm in the Frat's TD League for now. But I will vote fairly on everyone's throwdowns and be helpful to the group. Thanks for the invite.
G.O.A.T. 06/29/07

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