NFL  > Pittsburgh Steelers  > THE CALL ON THE VIKINGS THAT EVERYONE IS COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT TOOK AWAY THE TD IS EXPLAINED
October 28, 2009, 06:18 PM
Ran up on this nice litte read. I have heard alot and seen alot about the call in the Steelers Vikings game so here it is explained out . It was a good call /

Zebra Report is FanHouse's analysis of actual NFL rules and how they are to be applied ... because most fans think they could do a better job than the NFL officials, yet definitely could not. Click here for an introduction as to how we do things.

Of all the complaints about officiating, I think the most maddening is how people who hate the Pittsburgh Steelers -- so, a really, really large contingent -- like to label them the "Stealers" and proclaim they always get the calls. This past weekend was a great example, as the Steelers took down the Vikings fair-and-square, but some people just can't seem to grasp the concept.

First of all, there are tons of complaints about the tripping call which negated a Vikings touchdown -- and was soon followed by a Steelers' defensive touchdown. Honestly, I'm not quite sure what the fuss is about. Tripping is defined as (Rule 3-40) "the use of the leg in obstructing any opponent." In rule 12-1-5, it clearly states that anyone can block an opponent as long as he's not tripping him. I keep seeing the word "phantom" used in conjunction with this call, but click here to watch the highlight (about the 2:20 mark) and keep the rule in mind. Try to be unbiased, consider the rule and see what you see.

I really hate it when people say something along the lines of "the officials should let the players decide the game." They did! If Jeff Dugan could have blocked his man successfully instead of diving at toward the opponent's lower-half and whipping his legs up, the Vikings would have scored a touchdown. Instead, he committed a penalty and got caught. No touchdown. A rule was broken and a price was paid. That's elementary.

Can anyone seriously make the argument that Dugan did not use his legs to obstruct the opponent he was trying to block? If so, please feel free to post your argument in the comments section. I would love to see it.

Speaking of Dugan, him plowing over the official during the kickoff return was neither funny nor acceptable. Look, the officials are part of the field and they take on a certain risk when being out on the field. In fact, umpires (the ones who line up in the vicinity of the inside linebackers and watch the line play) may start wearing helmets next season. Regardless of the risk and the fact that people are miffed with the guys from time to time, they are still human beings -- ones who aren't wearing pads like the players. If Dugan didn't see the official, man, he really should have. He appeared to be running toward him for several steps and his helmet was facing the official. If he did -- and it's very suspicious, considering he was just flagged for tripping four plays earlier -- then he should be suspended. To blatantly run over a guy with a clear motive is easily grounds for punishment. I'd like to believe Dugan was trying to find someone to block and accidentally plowed over Richard Reels (the back judge), but we'll never know for sure. They are both lucky Reels wasn't seriously injured.

In case anyone is curious, it is obviously illegal to contact an official intentionally during any part of the game, but there's no way to prove intent on this play, thus, they couldn't have called any sort of penalty on Dugan for the contact.
October 28, 2009  06:21 PM ET

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/10/28/zebra-report-
simmer-stealers-haters/

Here is the link it wouldnt let me post the whole story so if you want to read the rest.


I think it explains the call well and that is was the right call,..thanks for reading and please keep the "Stealers" comments to a minimum because I think that was also refered to in this article.

October 28, 2009  06:36 PM ET

Great post. I forgot about Dugan and the official--it looked like he gave him a shove, too.

October 28, 2009  06:36 PM ET

Ok..the call took away a touchdown. It didn't take the ball from the Vikings or move them outside the 30. They were still within scoring range and it was the fumble by Farve that "lost the game".

October 28, 2009  07:38 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Great post. I forgot about Dugan and the official--it looked like he gave him a shove, too.

Thanks jack, I found this and it confirms our previous arguements I thought it needed to put out there

October 28, 2009  07:39 PM ET

I know that itsatrap, and you know that and anyone that watched the game should know that but alot of the Vikings fans are still saying it was the call.

October 28, 2009  07:40 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Thanks jack, I found this and it confirms our previous arguements I thought it needed to put out there

i forgot this part. I know it looked like he did it on purpose , wonder if he will get fined for it. Ill have to keep an eye out for that.

October 28, 2009  07:46 PM ET

Poor call. Plain and simple. Legs never even raised above the waist of the TE. They simply followed the path of his body.

October 28, 2009  07:48 PM ET

Doesn't take away from the following defense stop by Pitt, the following play though.

October 28, 2009  11:55 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Doesn't take away from the following defense stop by Pitt, the following play though.

Thank you. IT was a great game all around and i dont think one call really changed it. Just my opinion

October 29, 2009  01:03 AM ET

Nice post BigBentheory7 ...

However - I disagree with your interpretation of the rule .

I believe the official erred and called what he "thought he saw " ...instead of what actually happened .

It's part of the game ...It's called human error .

My issue with him wasn't that he blew the call
(which is what the majority of people outside of Pittsburgh not named Stevie Wonder think )

My problem is that at crunch time in what has to be considered one of the biggest maquee match-ups of the year ...
He made a game changing call w/o being 100% sure.

1st half ...he makes that call on a 2nd and 10 from midfield...no biggie.

But in the 4th quarter , with the game on the line...?

CAN"T DO IT ...GOT TO BE 100 % SURE !

Guy shouldn't be allowed to work another big game the rest of the year.

As far as gettin' knocked on his keister ...

Oops ~ Poetic Justice.

October 29, 2009  07:15 AM ET

The thing is, there are bad calls on both sides of the ball. I don't think Miller should have been flagged for "pass interference" that also negated a Steelers touchdown and they had to settle for a field goal. But you know what, the Steelers did not fold and kept on playing and earned the win.
The defense stepped up and closed the game out...that's a great sign for the rest of the season!

October 29, 2009  11:19 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

Nice post BigBentheory7 ...However - I disagree with your interpretation of the rule . I believe the official erred and called what he "thought he saw " ...instead of what actually happened .It's part of the game ...It's called human error .My issue with him wasn't that he blew the call(which is what the majority of people outside of Pittsburgh not named Stevie Wonder think )My problem is that at crunch time in what has to be considered one of the biggest maquee match-ups of the year ...He made a game changing call w/o being 100% sure.1st half ...he makes that call on a 2nd and 10 from midfield...no biggie.But in the 4th quarter , with the game on the line...?CAN"T DO IT ...GOT TO BE 100 % SURE !Guy shouldn't be allowed to work another big game the rest of the year.As far as gettin' knocked on his keister ...Oops ~ Poetic Justice.

I hear you but you can't do that.

For the players to have success you HAVE to call the game - and penalties - consistantly. If it's a penalty in the first minute, it's a penalty in the last minute. Otherwise the players don't know when the ref is going to blow the whistle and when he's not. When is holding not really holding? When is PI not PI? If you change the severity based upon the quarter, you throw the players off.

As for this penalty...Most people listen to the annoucners and don't question. They're sheep. Goose is a Raven and hates the Steelers - that bias came through. Ditto for Moose.

I understand them having a problem with the call...it could have gone either way...but for them to say that 'no way' should it have been called is wrong. I can see why it was...the Olineman was going to the ground and he DID raise his legs to trip the defender. I can see why it wouldn't have been...it's hard to distinquish between intentionally raising one's legs and just pure momentum as you fall.

If you look at the replay, the Olineman put extra effort into raising his legs - thus it's tripping.

Rayne

October 29, 2009  11:48 AM ET

It doesn't even matter. If the call wouldn't have been made and the Steelers win anyways the whiny jealous Steeler haters will always find something to cry about.

October 29, 2009  01:36 PM ET

Well we stole the game anyways. We live up to our team name. We steal TD, championships, and get the refs to steel with us.

At least the Lions, Titans, or Bucs aren't renamed to how they preform. Losers, toilets, and Boobs could be subed in.

October 29, 2009  01:53 PM ET
QUOTE(#10):

Nice post BigBentheory7 ...However - I disagree with your interpretation of the rule . I believe the official erred and called what he "thought he saw " ...instead of what actually happened .It's part of the game ...It's called human error .My issue with him wasn't that he blew the call(which is what the majority of people outside of Pittsburgh not named Stevie Wonder think )My problem is that at crunch time in what has to be considered one of the biggest maquee match-ups of the year ...He made a game changing call w/o being 100% sure.1st half ...he makes that call on a 2nd and 10 from midfield...no biggie.But in the 4th quarter , with the game on the line...?CAN"T DO IT ...GOT TO BE 100 % SURE !Guy shouldn't be allowed to work another big game the rest of the year.As far as gettin' knocked on his keister ...Oops ~ Poetic Justice.

Captain Foxboro . I didnt write the Interpetation , an official did , that is why i posted it, the rules are there in black in white and no matter what you or I think they are the rules. and to your comment about Stevie wonder. No us Steeler fans feel the same way about the roughing the passer calls that brady get if someone breathes on him, and the majority of people outside of New England can see that the refs show favortism to Brady in that regard, so in other words you say tomato I say Tamato, Its a double edge sword , at least an official stood up and explained this call and why it was called but yet have heard one refuting the BS roughing passer calls that Brady gets. The call was made and the Steelers won and it was a good call. But thank you for your nice words in the beginning,

October 29, 2009  01:57 PM ET
QUOTE(#11):

The thing is, there are bad calls on both sides of the ball. I don't think Miller should have been flagged for "pass interference" that also negated a Steelers touchdown and they had to settle for a field goal. But you know what, the Steelers did not fold and kept on playing and earned the win. The defense stepped up and closed the game out...that's a great sign for the rest of the season!

That is exaclty right, decube, They won the game and they played a good game and I think that is putting fear in alot of people that the Defense is stepping up. With the offense playing the way they are and the Defense finally coming to life , It is looking better for the Steelers each week .I hope they keep the momentum going,

October 29, 2009  01:59 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

Well we stole the game anyways. We live up to our team name. We steal TD, championships, and get the refs to steel with us. At least the Lions, Titans, or Bucs aren't renamed to how they preform. Losers, toilets, and Boobs could be subed in.

Ha ha ha that is to funny Native . Thanks for your insightfullness , Your post always make me laugh. :)

October 29, 2009  01:59 PM ET
QUOTE(#15):

Captain Foxboro . I didnt write the Interpetation , an official did , that is why i posted it, the rules are there in black in white and no matter what you or I think they are the rules. and to your comment about Stevie wonder. No us Steeler fans feel the same way about the roughing the passer calls that brady get if someone breathes on him, and the majority of people outside of New England can see that the refs show favortism to Brady in that regard, so in other words you say tomato I say Tamato, Its a double edge sword , at least an official stood up and explained this call and why it was called but yet have heard one refuting the BS roughing passer calls that Brady gets. The call was made and the Steelers won and it was a good call. But thank you for your nice words in the beginning,

Well said....Brady gets the calls with the 'roughing the passer' garbage.

So the tripping call on Minn. was bogus but the brush at Brady's legs against the Ravens was legit?

What color are the unicorns in Patriotland?

Rayne

October 29, 2009  02:07 PM ET

Thanks Rayne , that is exactly my point that is why i refered to that, Im bracing for impact because I said that, but the truth is the truth,

 
October 29, 2009  02:20 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

Poor call. Plain and simple. Legs never even raised above the waist of the TE. They simply followed the path of his body.

LOL

Ever try tripping someone with your legs above the other persons waist?

Most trips are done below the waist.

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