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QUOTE:

Originally posted 10:08 AM ET  11.02 by kryptonian GSP is King

Machida suffered a hand injury in his controversial win

Machida did NOT suffer this injury during the fight. he had this BEFORE the fight and decided to wait until after the fight to take care of it.
This is NOT rua's fight related!

QUOTE:

Originally posted 10:08 AM ET  11.02 by kryptonian GSP is King

GSP is going to be ready by February, it is looking more like March...but he doesn't have a scheduled opponent yet anyhow

He is scheduled to fight the winner of Swick-Hardy.

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Originally posted 10:08 AM ET  11.02 by kryptonian GSP is King

Silva's elbow surgery has now thrown a monkey wrench into the planned Belfort fight on January second and that will likely be postponed now as well.

I don't know. Although I was ok with Vitor fighting Silva, I think that now it came to a blessing. We can have the top 4 competing for a chance to fight for the title.
How about that?
Maybe Nate & hendo and Vitor & Okami, then winners will fight for the belt, or even the winner of Nate & Hendo will fight Spider and next in line is the winner of Vitor & Okami

What do you think?

QUOTE(#1):

Originally posted 03:01 PM ET  11.02 by Roni

Machida did NOT suffer this injury during the fight. he had this BEFORE the fight and decided to wait until after the fight to take care of it.This is NOT rua's fight related!

Rua broker Machidas hand with his face.

QUOTE(#3):

Originally posted 03:07 PM ET  11.02 by Roni

I don't know. Although I was ok with Vitor fighting Silva, I think that now it came to a blessing. We can have the top 4 competing for a chance to fight for the title.How about that?Maybe Nate & hendo and Vitor & Okami, then winners will fight for the belt, or even the winner of Nate & Hendo will fight Spider and next in line is the winner of Vitor & Okami What do you think?

Well considering Okami just lost to Sonnen I dont think so. Let see what happens with the Marquardt-Hendo fight first. I think they eventually fight, prob in Jan-Feb, and the Anderson surgery is just removing bobe chips, so dont know what his deal is, but I cant imagine the Vitor-Anderson fight being delayed much more than 6 weeks.

QUOTE(#5):

Originally posted 03:09 PM ET  11.02 by JimJ77

Well considering Okami just lost to Sonnen I dont think so. Let see what happens with the Marquardt-Hendo fight first. I think they eventually fight, prob in Jan-Feb, and the Anderson surgery is just removing bobe chips, so dont know what his deal is, but I cant imagine the Vitor-Anderson fight being delayed much more than 6 weeks.

*bone

QUOTE(#1):

Originally posted 03:01 PM ET  11.02 by Roni

Machida did NOT suffer this injury during the fight. he had this BEFORE the fight and decided to wait until after the fight to take care of it.This is NOT rua's fight related!

Roni, you're gonna kill me on this one... but if Machida does have a hand injury, then it was fight related.

Firstly, fighters' hands are checked by a doctor, the day before the fight. His hand was deemed fine. It's nearly impossible that he had a hand injury requiring surgery, before the fight.

All reports I have read coming from his camp are stating that he injured his hand during the fight.

That's the only logical thing to assume.

And I just did some comparative research.

Doctors, as we all know, check fighters pre-fight and post-fight. No one is going to fight with, in the case we're talking about, a broken hand.

Remember Rich Franklin at UFC 58?

He broke his hand against David Loiseau that night.

I remember that fight very well and decided to do some research.

The fight took place March 4 of 2006.

Franklin went to the hospital to get an x-ray on his hand.

He was medically suspended:

- No contest until 09/01/06. That's September of that year. All in all, it was a 6-month suspension.

Now Machida comes into the fight with his hand cleared by doctors. He supposedly broke his hand during the Shogun fight (that's what their camp is reporting, and what most websites are also reporting, so there's no reason to doubt that).

After the fight he went to the hospital and got an x-ray. He was medically suspended for 2 months for the lip only.

QUOTE(#7):

Originally posted 03:29 PM ET  11.02 by Hyped78

Roni, you're gonna kill me on this one... but if Machida does have a hand injury, then it was fight related.Firstly, fighters' hands are checked by a doctor, the day before the fight. His hand was deemed fine. It's nearly impossible that he had a hand injury requiring surgery, before the fight.All reports I have read coming from his camp are stating that he injured his hand during the fight.That's the only logical thing to assume.

Not killing anybody, but it is a thrilling feeling to disagree with you :)

However, read this (I beg to pardon to the english readers, but you understand if I require proof to disagree with Hyped) :)

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Ed Soares tamb??m revelou que Machida j?? vinha sentindo o problema antes se enfrentar Maur??cio no dia 24 de outubro. "Antes da luta, ele foi a um m??dico no Brasil, que disse que ele precisaria da cirurgia, mas n??o queria cancelar a luta. N??o estamos dando qualquer desculpa. Lyoto estava realmente 100% para o combate."

"Mas esse problema o estava incomodando h?? algum tempo e quando abriu a m??o, foram encontrados fragmentos de ossos. Havia quatro peda??os que o m??dico explicou que era o que estava lhe causando dor. S?? que agora j?? est?? tudo limpo", completou.

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you can read the full report in here: http://esporte.uol.com.br/vale-tudo/ultimas-noticias/2009/11/01/ult7634u46 .jhtm

QUOTE(#9):

Originally posted 03:45 PM ET  11.02 by Roni

Not killing anybody, but it is a thrilling feeling to disagree with you :)However, read this (I beg to pardon to the english readers, but you understand if I require proof to disagree with Hyped) :)================Ed Soares tamb??m revelou que Machida j?? vinha sentindo o problema antes se enfrentar Maur??cio no dia 24 de outubro. "Antes da luta, ele foi a um m??dico no Brasil, que disse que ele precisaria da cirurgia, mas n??o queria cancelar a luta. N??o estamos dando qualquer desculpa. Lyoto estava realmente 100% para o combate.""Mas esse problema o estava incomodando h?? algum tempo e quando abriu a m??o, foram encontrados fragmentos de ossos. Havia quatro peda??os que o m??dico explicou que era o que estava lhe causando dor. S?? que agora j?? est?? tudo limpo", completou.=============you can read the full report in here: http://esporte.uol.com.br/vale-tudo/ultimas-noticias/2009/11/01/ult7634u46 .jhtm

English boys, I need it translated.

Basically Ed soares is saying that Machida had visited a doctor, and he was aware he would need surgery for cipped bones in his hands.
He was OK to fight and didn't want to delay the fight, so they agreed on surgery after the fight.

Again, it could be BS.
But this is pretty much the biggest site for News in Brazil, and they are (now) doing a decent coverage on Brazillian fighters. So I don't think they would report this if it was not true.

QUOTE(#9):

Originally posted 03:45 PM ET  11.02 by Roni

Not killing anybody, but it is a thrilling feeling to disagree with you :)However, read this (I beg to pardon to the english readers, but you understand if I require proof to disagree with Hyped) :)================Ed Soares tamb??m revelou que Machida j?? vinha sentindo o problema antes se enfrentar Maur??cio no dia 24 de outubro. "Antes da luta, ele foi a um m??dico no Brasil, que disse que ele precisaria da cirurgia, mas n??o queria cancelar a luta. N??o estamos dando qualquer desculpa. Lyoto estava realmente 100% para o combate.""Mas esse problema o estava incomodando h?? algum tempo e quando abriu a m??o, foram encontrados fragmentos de ossos. Havia quatro peda??os que o m??dico explicou que era o que estava lhe causando dor. S?? que agora j?? est?? tudo limpo", completou.=============you can read the full report in here: http://esporte.uol.com.br/vale-tudo/ultimas-noticias/2009/11/01/ult7634u46 .jhtm

Eu acredito que a noticia seja verdadeira e fidedigna mas sinceramente nao acredito que o Ed Soares esteja a dizer a verdade completa.

Se a mao dele estivesse suficientemente mal ele nao teria passado no exame medico da CSAC (ainda por cima esta ainda e mais rigida do que a NSAC).

No accents, sorry Roni.

Me and Roni are talking bad stuff about you guys :)

Ive been away for like a month. Nice to be back.

I hope Silva and Belfort get moved to the 109 card with GSP Swick/Hardy. That would be awesome. I could care less about the rest of the card. I doubt Silva and GSP would be on the same card since they both bring in a lot of money.

QUOTE(#13):

Originally posted 05:39 PM ET  11.02 by Hyped78

Eu acredito que a noticia seja verdadeira e fidedigna mas sinceramente nao acredito que o Ed Soares esteja a dizer a verdade completa.Se a mao dele estivesse suficientemente mal ele nao teria passado no exame medico da CSAC (ainda por cima esta ainda e mais rigida do que a NSAC).

Olha, eu nao sei.
Eu acho estranho tambem que a cirurgia seja exatamente agora. Mas tambem acho normal que eles contem com este tempo para a cirurgia, exatamente porque e quando o Lioto tem tempo livre.

Mas concordo que soa suspeito, especialmente vindo do Ed Soares.

Mas ele disse que nao o impedia de treinar ou lutar. Se for assim, voce nao acha que ele seria aprovado pra lutar? Afinal muita gente luta com problemas. Eu me lembro que o Franklin lutou com o calcanhar ruim, e ate o Rua dizem que estava lutando com problemas ate operar.. ou seja, nao eh incomum ter problemas e deixar aoperacao para depois...

Hey! You two stop talking in your secret little language!:)

HAHAHA. this is becoming the dominant language in MMA :)
I think you guys have to start learning it :)

QUOTE(#16):

Originally posted 09:27 AM ET  11.03 by Roni

Olha, eu nao sei.Eu acho estranho tambem que a cirurgia seja exatamente agora. Mas tambem acho normal que eles contem com este tempo para a cirurgia, exatamente porque e quando o Lioto tem tempo livre.Mas concordo que soa suspeito, especialmente vindo do Ed Soares.Mas ele disse que nao o impedia de treinar ou lutar. Se for assim, voce nao acha que ele seria aprovado pra lutar? Afinal muita gente luta com problemas. Eu me lembro que o Franklin lutou com o calcanhar ruim, e ate o Rua dizem que estava lutando com problemas ate operar.. ou seja, nao eh incomum ter problemas e deixar aoperacao para depois...

Bom, eu na realidade nao tenho certezas de nada, como e obvio :)

Agora que me parece tudo isto esquisito, la isso parece!

QUOTE(#17):

Originally posted 09:32 AM ET  11.03 by clouis870:WarRenzo!!

Hey! You two stop talking in your secret little language!:)

For a fee we'll teach you :)