MMA  > General MMA  > SF Making same mistake as Elite XC
November 6, 2009, 10:15 AM
They are only promoting one fight on this card. They aren't giving any other fighters on this card any press and they do actually have some other good fights on this card. While I don't like to compare Elite XC and SF(I think SF is much better run) I can't help but do it here. Elite XC only promoted Kimbo Slice. With his skillset he was bound to lose sooner or later. They had a great opponent for Kimbo with Shamrock(no striking or takedown). Kimbo would have easiliy KO'd him. The problem was they didn't have as many options once Ken withdrew. While Fedor is 100X the fighter that Kimbo is Rogers is a heavy hitter(although not very technical) and does have a chance to catch Fedor and KO him, no matter how slim the chances. While I think they would do an immediate rematch I think that overall it will hurt them to only be promoting this fight and these 2 fighters. If I wasn't an MMA fan I would have no idea who else is fighting on this card.

Thoughts?
November 6, 2009  10:24 AM ET

I agree with you.
But you have to give it to them that they are not only promoting the main fight. they are prommoting Fedor, who is the top of the top of the HW Division.
I think their problem is that as they don't have much material to promote him, they are doing the best they can... and while doing it, they lost sight to promote the other fighters aswell.

If you watched TUF yesterday, you saw the adds UFC does for even chumps like Tito & FG and rumble & Kos.
I think SF should have done the same, but I can see why they pay extra attention to fedor.

Also, on a flip side, it is good if they can hook people who only heard about Fedor, then show the rest as they are ok fighters and have people in awe of them. Like,. people come to see one fight, and discover that the rest of the card are great...

Next time, it won't matter who SF will put on main card, the casual fan will expect fighters on that level...kind of raising their expectations... :)

November 6, 2009  10:25 AM ET

your last sentence is what i have been saying. they should be promoting the SHYTE outta Mousasi. but even the promoting has been bad, where an you find a fedor commercial? tell me? havent seena asingle ne and if i didnt follow mma i would have no clue the fuight was tomorrow! and the exhibition match with Fedr and Mousasi? i found that on you tube. great fight..where the hell was it aired?

November 6, 2009  10:28 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

chumps like Tito & FG and rumble & Kos.

roni, very VERY unfair in calling these guys chumps brother.

November 6, 2009  10:42 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

your last sentence is what i have been saying. they should be promoting the SHYTE outta Mousasi. but even the promoting has been bad, where an you find a fedor commercial? tell me? havent seena asingle ne and if i didnt follow mma i would have no clue the fuight was tomorrow! and the exhibition match with Fedr and Mousasi? i found that on you tube. great fight..where the hell was it aired?

They've been promoting the hell out of the fights on CBS, particularly during football.

November 6, 2009  10:43 AM ET
QUOTE:

Elite XC only promoted Kimbo Slice. With his skillset he was bound to lose sooner or later. They had a great opponent for Kimbo with Shamrock(no striking or takedown). Kimbo would have easiliy KO'd him.

I gotta respectfully disagree here man. Shamrock may be old, but I don't think he would've had any trouble taking Kimbo down.

November 6, 2009  10:54 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

They've been promoting the hell out of the fights on CBS, particularly during football.

see im not a football fan. so unless you watch football you would have no idea?? also my bro in law who i ask to come over every ufc and never does, said he saw the commercial and wil NOT be watching

November 6, 2009  12:23 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

I gotta respectfully disagree here man. Shamrock may be old, but I don't think he would've had any trouble taking Kimbo down. There's a reason he's 3-7 in his last 10 fights with 6 of those 10 fights coming my KO or TKO. Granted 3 of those losses are against Tito, but Ken has never had a great takedown. At his age it's gotten even worse. I think Kimbo would have KHTFO in under 30 seconds.

OMG, are you serious? When have you seen Ken Shamrick take anyone down in the last 5 years? He has one of the worst shots in MMA and he is very slow.

November 6, 2009  12:24 PM ET

Oops, I actually posted some of my reply into your comment. lol

November 6, 2009  12:25 PM ET

There's a reason he's 3-7 in his last 10 fights with 6 of those 10 fights coming my KO or TKO. Granted 3 of those losses are against Tito, but Ken has never had a great takedown. At his age it's gotten even worse. I think Kimbo would have KHTFO in under 30 seconds.

This should have been in my reply

November 6, 2009  12:27 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

see im not a football fan. so unless you watch football you would have no idea?? also my bro in law who i ask to come over every ufc and never does, said he saw the commercial and wil NOT be watching

My bro in law watches now, and is even hosting the events at his house. Will be at his house this Saturday. I would kick his ass if he didnt like MMA. As far as the thread goes, I agree, you never hear about the other fighters. You ever see a UFC commercial, they hype like 3 fights every time. SF has only done this fight. And the fight of the night in my mind is the Shields-Miller fight, but you never hear of it.

November 6, 2009  12:28 PM ET
QUOTE(#9):

There's a reason he's 3-7 in his last 10 fights with 6 of those 10 fights coming my KO or TKO. Granted 3 of those losses are against Tito, but Ken has never had a great takedown. At his age it's gotten even worse. I think Kimbo would have KHTFO in under 30 seconds.This should have been in my reply

Shamrock was a bum 5 years ago. Kimbo would have KO'd him.

November 6, 2009  12:31 PM ET
QUOTE(#11):

Shamrock was a bum 5 years ago. Kimbo would have KO'd him.

So it would be a bumfight. I'll take the guy with more experience.

November 6, 2009  12:33 PM ET
QUOTE(#12):

So it would be a bumfight. I'll take the guy with more experience.

Haha, pretty much a bum fight, yup. I think Shamrock is the bigger bum, but, we're splitting hairs.

November 6, 2009  12:51 PM ET
QUOTE:

They are only promoting one fight on this card. They aren't giving any other fighters on this card any press and they do actually have some other good fights on this card. While I don't like to compare Elite XC and SF(I think SF is much better run) I can't help but do it here. Elite XC only promoted Kimbo Slice. With his skillset he was bound to lose sooner or later. They had a great opponent for Kimbo with Shamrock(no striking or takedown). Kimbo would have easiliy KO'd him. The problem was they didn't have as many options once Ken withdrew. While Fedor is 100X the fighter that Kimbo is Rogers is a heavy hitter(although not very technical) and does have a chance to catch Fedor and KO him, no matter how slim the chances. While I think they would do an immediate rematch I think that overall it will hurt them to only be promoting this fight and these 2 fighters. If I wasn't an MMA fan I would have no idea who else is fighting on this card.Thoughts?

I agree that a non MMA fan will have no clue about the other fighters becuase they haven't even been mentioned. Now for us hardcores, we love this free SF card.

November 6, 2009  12:54 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

I agree with you.But you have to give it to them that they are not only promoting the main fight. they are prommoting Fedor, who is the top of the top of the HW Division.I think their problem is that as they don't have much material to promote him, they are doing the best they can... and while doing it, they lost sight to promote the other fighters aswell.If you watched TUF yesterday, you saw the adds UFC does for even chumps like Tito & FG and rumble & Kos. I think SF should have done the same, but I can see why they pay extra attention to fedor.Also, on a flip side, it is good if they can hook people who only heard about Fedor, then show the rest as they are ok fighters and have people in awe of them. Like,. people come to see one fight, and discover that the rest of the card are great...Next time, it won't matter who SF will put on main card, the casual fan will expect fighters on that level...kind of raising their expectations... :)

I think the problem though is, most of the main card fights to me, look decisively one sided. I see Sheilds, Mousasi, and Silva winning no problem. The only one I have any reserve about is the Silva and Werdum fight but I think Silva is too big and hits too hard, it'll end like Werdum versus Cigano did.

November 6, 2009  12:55 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

your last sentence is what i have been saying. they should be promoting the SHYTE outta Mousasi. but even the promoting has been bad, where an you find a fedor commercial? tell me? havent seena asingle ne and if i didnt follow mma i would have no clue the fuight was tomorrow! and the exhibition match with Fedr and Mousasi? i found that on you tube. great fight..where the hell was it aired?

It wasn't aired...I mena the Mousasi v Fedor one.

November 6, 2009  12:56 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

I gotta respectfully disagree here man. Shamrock may be old, but I don't think he would've had any trouble taking Kimbo down.

I agree he could have put him down easily.

November 6, 2009  12:56 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

OMG, are you serious? When have you seen Ken Shamrick take anyone down in the last 5 years? He has one of the worst shots in MMA and he is very slow.

But its Kimbo!

November 6, 2009  01:26 PM ET
QUOTE(#18):

But its Kimbo!

I read a great line, on another MMA site.


Kimbo has a Black Belt in Youtube.

 
November 6, 2009  01:29 PM ET
QUOTE(#19):

I read a great line, on another MMA site.Kimbo has a Black Belt in Youtube.

OMG!...HAHAHH!!!
more like suspenders from youtube

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