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He has shown that he can be a beast on the field and off the field. Being a die-hard chiefs fan I want to see the holdout contract get paid NOW! He is underachieving bigtime. Too his credit last year he got injured and miss most preseason, this year he has been in legal troubles, so I feel that he hasn't had all best opportunitys to showcase his worth, he is a back that needs 20+ carries to real affective, but getting 10-15 doesn't cut it granted thigpen has breathed life into the offensive, but we need to get LJ going so that we can use him as a workhorse to control the clock, than maybe well stop giving up those game we lose with leads. Lj is expendable but I don't think we should let him go at a bargain price. The NFL is a copycat league we have a bruising goal line back in LJ now hopefully j Charles can be that speed back and will have our own Lighting & Thunder! GO CHIEFS!!!!

Let him go for good trade value. The team has spent the year building a nice nucleus of young talent and begining to develop that talent. This comming off season we should see 7 more new draft picks and be fairly big players in free agency. With 30-40 million under the cap and only a relative "few" players that we should have to pay to hold on to there is plenty of room to start building around that nulceus.

Wasn't that the plan?
1) Get younger, build a large and strong group of draftees/NDFA's and put together a nucleus of talent.
2) Get those players on the field and give them a chance to work together and develop.
3) Position ourselves under the cap to allow the team to add to that young nucleus in the future.
4) Don't let anything disuade us from executing our rebuilding plan, and force us back into the "Vermeil Era" team that just keeps getting older and older trying to add that one "magical" player that is going to get us over the playoff hump

LJ, no matter how good of a back he once was, has not performed since getting his big'ol contract extention. Injury, arrest, suspension... whatever... the performance on the filed is not there.
It's better to get rid of a player one year too soon than it is to hold onto them one season too long. -- At least you can get something for them when you dump 'em.

7 Upcomming draft picks + suplimental picks in the late rounds.

DE, MLB, QB, OG, RB, OLB, OT --- in that order would be good (although lots of cases can be made for a different order)

DE -- We have no outside pass rush. I expect Dorsey/Tank to continue to develop and I like what I see so far. They should be a future DOMINANT inside tandum. But collapsing the middle of the pocket doesn't do any good if there's no one around to rush the edge and clean up.

MLB -- We need one, badly. DJ is just plain better from the outside. Edwards is done. Pat Thomas is average at best. Rocky Boiman is developing, but he's not gonna be a signal caller. MLB is the "QB" of the defense, and the Chiefs badly need one.

QB -- Maybe Thigpen is the real deal. Maybe he's not. I'm not convinced yet. I AM convinced that the Brodie Croyle experement is over. If you can't stay on the field for 1 whole game at any point during the season -- It's time to look for something more durable. Damon Huard is done. -- Which means Thigpen is the starter short term with a chance to earn it long term. We need to draft a guy that has the POTENTIAL to become a franchise QB down the road (not blow the bank on one at 3rd pick overall when we arent SURE we need one). And we should be shopping FA's for a veteran to back up Thigpen and teach the new guy. ---- Trade Croyle for dozen jelly donuts of you can get that much.

OG -- Move Herb taylor to ROT, toss Mac out on his ****, and get some talent in there at ROG. We might be able to run the ball if the right side of the line didnt collapse like so much paper mache.

RB -- A Bruiser North / South runner -- Replace LJ with young strong legs. You don't need speed, just power-- But they have to be able to block.

OLB -- I feel the need. The need for speed

OT -- need someone to back up Albert / Herb Taylor.

Texas Chief - I like almost all of your points. The one I disagree with is the QB. I like Thigpen as well, but I think he IS the young guy could be the franchise guy. Get a FA vet to compete with him to push him on and use that draft pick for the defensive line.

Good work!!

Trade him to the Cowboys they take any loser that has skills.

I am not so sure Thigpen is the guy for the future though, I mean he looks great in the spread offense, but he needs to show he can work just as effectively in the i-formation, the singleback, i.e. under center. I know from Herm's press conference that he liked how the line responded to the spread with some good pass blocking and how the pressure got taken off with Thigpen being so mobile, but severely limiting yourself by only running the spread also makes it easier to adjust and then dominate the Chiefs in the second half. If we put all of our eggs in the proverbial spread offense basket, we are going to be looking at another terrible season. I wouldn't blame Chan Gailey either because there are only a few adjustments that can be made and still have Thigpen be comfortable. I would like to see a qb that is more equipped to handle an nfl pro set offense, if only to challenge Thigpen.

I am not so sure Thigpen is the guy for the future though, I mean he looks great in the spread offense, but he needs to show he can work just as effectively in the i-formation, the singleback, i.e. under center. I know from Herm's press conference that he liked how the line responded to the spread with some good pass blocking and how the pressure got taken off with Thigpen being so mobile, but severely limiting yourself by only running the spread also makes it easier to adjust and then dominate the Chiefs in the second half. If we put all of our eggs in the proverbial spread offense basket, we are going to be looking at another terrible season. I wouldn't blame Chan Gailey either because there are only a few adjustments that can be made and still have Thigpen be comfortable. I would like to see a qb that is more equipped to handle an nfl pro set offense, if only to challenge Thigpen.

Trade LJ to Detroit or Dallas for as much draft stock as we can get. Shanahan has proved over the years that a better than average and consistent offensive line can make good young legs look like superstars. Invest in solid offensive linemen and defensive players and find THE quarterback. Since we fell into the trap of paying for San Francisco's used players we were competitive but passed on some potentially great QB's. Perhaps Tyler is the one, I hope so, but I like the thought of finding a Cutler or Rivers in the next draft or two. Matthew Stafford and Josh Freeman are coming up and either one could be ready to play sooner rather than later. But we tend to sell the farm for the next big thing and we've burned ourselves more often than not on QB. Much hope that our next GM is a wizard who brings a strong college scouting staff with them.

who gives a hoot what they do with him...he's a bum now, he took the money and ran



oh, he really didnt do any running.....forgive me 1000 pardons

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Originally posted 09:24 PM ET  12.19 by Texas Chief

Let him go for good trade value. The team has spent the year building a nice nucleus of young talent and begining to develop that talent. This comming off season we should see 7 more new draft picks and be fairly big players in free agency. With 30-40 million under the cap and only a relative "few" players that we should have to pay to hold on to there is plenty of room to start building around that nulceus.Wasn't that the plan? 1) Get younger, build a large and strong group of draftees/NDFA's and put together a nucleus of talent. 2) Get those players on the field and give them a chance to work together and develop.3) Position ourselves under the cap to allow the team to add to that young nucleus in the future.4) Don't let anything disuade us from executing our rebuilding plan, and force us back into the "Vermeil Era" team that just keeps getting older and older trying to add that one "magical" player that is going to get us over the playoff humpLJ, no matter how good of a back he once was, has not performed since getting his big'ol contract extention. Injury, arrest, suspension... whatever... the performance on the filed is not there. It's better to get rid of a player one year too soon than it is to hold onto them one season too long. -- At least you can get something for them when you dump 'em.7 Upcomming draft picks + suplimental picks in the late rounds.DE, MLB, QB, OG, RB, OLB, OT --- in that order would be good (although lots of cases can be made for a different order)DE -- We have no outside pass rush. I expect Dorsey/Tank to continue to develop and I like what I see so far. They should be a future DOMINANT inside tandum. But collapsing the middle of the pocket doesn't do any good if there's no one around to rush the edge and clean up.MLB -- We need one, badly. DJ is just plain better from the outside. Edwards is done. Pat Thomas is average at best. Rocky Boiman is developing, but he's not gonna be a signal caller. MLB is the "QB" of the defense, and the Chiefs badly need one.QB -- Maybe Thigpen is the real deal. Maybe he's not. I'm not convinced yet. I AM convinced that the Brodie Croyle experement is over. If you can't stay on the field for 1 whole game at any point during the season -- It's time to look for something more durable. Damon Huard is done. -- Which means Thigpen is the starter short term with a chance to earn it long term. We need to draft a guy that has the POTENTIAL to become a franchise QB down the road (not blow the bank on one at 3rd pick overall when we arent SURE we need one). And we should be shopping FA's for a veteran to back up Thigpen and teach the new guy. ---- Trade Croyle for dozen jelly donuts of you can get that much.OG -- Move Herb taylor to ROT, toss Mac out on his ****, and get some talent in there at ROG. We might be able to run the ball if the right side of the line didnt collapse like so much paper mache. RB -- A Bruiser North / South runner -- Replace LJ with young strong legs. You don't need speed, just power-- But they have to be able to block.OLB -- I feel the need. The need for speedOT -- need someone to back up Albert / Herb Taylor.

Huard Done?! .. How can you cut a veteran that can get it done.. We need to get this OLine back to where it was.. Huard can throw it but no can throw it when your line is collapsing.. But Fully Agree and I've been saying it all year too.. Brodie Croyle is a Bust.. Not as bad as *Todd Blackledge* but still he is already tagged Injury Prone... L.J. Get rid of him @ all cost.. (Trade to Vikings with a pick for Jared Allen) lol F.y.i if I had chance @ GM (being a dream job) and a Madden Gamer, I would make it my personal objective for our FB position bring back a ol' friend and player T. Richardson 'Paying him the money CARL should have given him "hometown discount" but Carl never made a co offer is what I heard on that.
Point is Damon can get it done. (When Dan Marino was retiring from Miami, he said to them Huard should take my place.) I see what he can do when and after T.Green went down? Just give him a line don't just throw him to the lions when you dont' know and didn't plan for Retiring Veterans ('06 Roaf, '07Shields, Trading Weigmann???) but Whether you find another qb to bring in for a competition (throw 4 qbs in @ training camp) Huard, Thigpen, Culpepper?, Draft or FA another QB ? -Draft another Big Gun WR or look @ FA market, more weapons the better. Big Defense Mistakes whos they are Carl or Herm.. Letting go Kawika Mitchell(LB won Super Bowl w/ Giants) and now "getting younger" bring in Donnie Edwards? ol donnie Okay?.... Good move, Question whether Patrick Surtain is retiring or what cause his 5'11 frame ain't getting it done. He's a veteran he like ya but you gotta get it done...

I love that Lawrence is being vocal about wanting to leave KC. I think the new G.M. should use that to his advantage give him an alta matum...
PAY BACK SOME OF THE MONEY FROM YOUR LAST CONTRACT (contract was agreed on before his production tanked and he was accused of hitting women on three seperate occasions) and we'll grant you your outright release. If Lawrence Johnson doesn't agree to that, the Chiefs should eat the salary and sit him on the bench for the next four seasons. I wouldn't let him see the field at any moment. The Chiefs would take a huge hit if the cut him now (so they couldn't do that) and no body will want to take on his payroll in a trade. He could either comply and pay us back the money or he can SIT HIS WHINY BUTT ON THE PINE FOR THE NEXT FOUR SEASONS. His choice!

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Originally posted 04:52 PM ET  01.05 by Iconhulk

Huard Done?! .. How can you cut a veteran that can get it done..

Sorry, but Huard is 34 and is not a mobile QB. You do not put an old, immobile QB behind an offensive line that has more leaks than the Titanic! Damon is a good QB and will make a fine #3 QB somewhere, but KC is no longer the best fit for him.

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Originally posted 04:52 PM ET  01.05 by Iconhulk

I would make it my personal objective for our FB position bring back a ol' friend and player T. Richardson 'Paying him the money CARL should have given him "hometown discount" but Carl never made a co offer is what I heard on that.

Like you, I have suffered through 20 years of the 5 year plan with Carl Peterson. I have some good news... CARL IS GONE!

Carl Peterson trained Chiefs fans to see the positive in a good majority of his moves at the time the move was made. He was a P.R. machine. There's only one problem with that... CARL WAS NOT GOOD AT BUILDING SUPER BOWL WINNING FRANCHISES. As Chiefs fans, we have to retrain ourselves and realize that similar moves won't be made any time soon. NEW BLOOD IS BEING BROUGHT IN. There is light at the end of the tunnel and we can start to let go all of the King's mistakes and look forward to a bright future with Pioli or Polian.

What should the Chiefs do about Larry Johnson?
My opinion is to trade Larry to either of the following teams for draft picks, 4th-5th; Seattle, New Orleans or Arizona. He is still a viable threat as a RB, but his off the field antics has diminished what he has accomplished on the field. A new start for him and the Chiefs would be best for all involved.

Keep him!Too much money invested in him would be a huge cap hit.If he dont like it sit him on the bench and let him watch.He no longer has any trade value anyway.

RoMiBa - Unfortulantly, King Carl gave him a record pay day two summers ago and the Chiefs will never find a team that wants to take on that kind of payroll.

at one point the patriots would have given up 2 first round picks and Lawrence Maroney for LG and i agreed with that trade...we didnt take it now look at us...i mean maroney has his injury problems but 2 FIRST ROUND PICKS!!!! thats money right there

o and i say draft chase coffman and get rid of Gonzo he deserves to be on a contender plus coffman is AMAZING

Get rid of his worthless ****! I was always on the LJ bandwagon, but if he hates having the best fans in football and wants to go elsewhere, Smell YA! A friend of mine over at Arrowhead Addict brought up a great idea, doubtful, but still good, Darren Sproles. I think we should keep the spread, get Darren back in KC and let him have his way with the rest of the West. As far as the draft I agree with old adage get the best player available, and I think at #3 we need to scoop up Crabs to go alongside Bowe. If not him then either Georgie Selvie or Ray Maulauga? Then we need to think maybe a QB and work on our O-Line. Anyone like the ideas?

I read in Adam Shefters blog that it would cost the Chiefs an 8.8 mil. cap hit to get rid of LJ, but it will cost them 8.2 mil. to keep him. $600,000 to get rid of him?? I say C-YA!!!

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Originally posted 08:13 AM ET  01.07 by The Mic

As far as the draft I agree with old adage get the best player available, and I think at #3 we need to scoop up Crabs to go alongside Bowe. If not him then either Georgie Selvie or Ray Maulauga? Then we need to think maybe a QB and work on our O-Line. Anyone like the ideas?

Not really... Take the best defensive player available. WR's are easy to find, and we have Bradley for our #2 anyway. The single biggest problem with the Chiefs is the lack of any passrush whatsoever. The first 3 picks should all be on the defensive side of the ball...No question!

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Originally posted 04:12 PM ET  01.10 by cballlv

Not really... Take the best defensive player available. WR's are easy to find, and we have Bradley for our #2 anyway. The single biggest problem with the Chiefs is the lack of any passrush whatsoever. The first 3 picks should all be on the defensive side of the ball...No question!

The Chiefs can't miss on an opportunity to draft a franchise QB. Tyler Thigpin is nice for now, but he doesn't have the physical or mental tools to be a star in the league. If you look at the playoff teams, a good majority of them have former first round picks at QB. These QBs will spend their entire careers with the same team and have lead their teams to the playoffs over and over. The Chiefs have had defenses and offenses worthy of a ring in the past, but the closest we ever got was with an older Joe Montana. If you have a chance to take a franchise QB, do it. Stafford and Bradford will be stars in the league.