NCAAF  > General NCAAF  > Top conference arguement and other BCS thoughts
November 6, 2008, 10:56 AM
I got sick of the PSU bashing from down south so just out of curiosity as to how much better the other conferences were than the Big 10, I put this chart together. It's top 11 teams in the B-10, B-12 and SEC. No offence meant to the other conferences but pac-10 has USC and that???s it and the others do not have team that are being considered for the championship.

Big 10 Big 12 SEC

PSU - 3 TT - 2 Alabama ??? 1
Ohio St - 3 Texas - 2 Florida ??? 1
Mich. State - 2 Oklahoma - 1 Georgia ??? 3
Northwest ??? 3 OSU - 1 L SU ??? 2
Minnesota - 2 Missouri - 1 S. Carolina ??? 3
Illinois - 1 Kansas - 2 Vandy ??? 3
Iowa - 1 Nebraska - 2 Mississippi ??? 3
Wisconsin - 1 Tex A&M - 2 Kentucky ??? 3
Purdue - 1 Colorado - 2 Arkansas ??? 3
Indiana - 3 K St. ??? 2 Auburn ??? 1
Michigan - 2 Baylor ??? 3 Tennessee ??? 1

22 20 24

I keep hearing all the bashing of the Big 10 this year but look at the other conferences and think that other than the top of the big 12, they all have serious weak spots.

Teams here were measured against the others at their level, for the top six (first two levels) I went straight by the polls to avoid adding in my own bias (Yes, I am a PSU fan and they are better than their ranking IMO but that will hopefully be shown in the title game.)

After that it is debatable but I tried to pick honestly as to which are the best based on the games I???ve watched this year. The Lower the number at the bottom the better. I honestly thought the SEC would be the best conference but it shows a lot of weakness through the middle and I think Georgia and LSU are vastly overrated.

I guess my point would be that the argument that PSU sucks because their conference is so weak is not really all that valid. They might not have another team at their level this year, but that does not invalidate the whole conference. Georgia and LSU are as over rated as Ohio St and have done about as well in big games. The Big 12 has a valid argument in terms of their top end but their bottom end is really bad.

That would mean that the argument that a 1 loss FL team should pass an undefeated PSU is not really valid either. Big 12 might still have an argument for a 1 loss team based on the top 4 in the south but hopefully it does not come to that for PSU.


As far as non conference scheds go which seems to be the next knock on PSU, Florida seems the toughest with the Miami and FSU games with Okla next. I would have to pick PSU next based on Oregon St beating USC but there is not much in it with any of the others inc. PSU. They are all rather easy.

Non-Con schedules for top 6 (ranks from CBS 120 - 0 means not ranked):
Bama TT PSU Tex Fla Okla
Clem - 50 E. Wash - 0 C. Car - 0 Fla At.-100 Haw. - 86 Chat - 0
Tule - 110 Nev. - 68 OSU - 30 UTEP - 0 Miami - 32 Cinci - 34
W. Ky. - 120 SMU - 117 Cuse - 106 Rice - 57 Citadel - 0 Wash - 112
U Mass - 0 Temp. - 89 FSU - 23 TCU - 11

Personally I hope Bama goes through and TT loses however I think Florida is playing better than Bama right now and will be the favourite to win the SEC (even though it kills me to say it). I would love to see Bama ??? PSU just for history???s sake. It???s time for a play-off though, any of the top 8 could win and the powers that be should let them sort it out on the field???..
November 22, 2010  11:04 AM ET

oNLINE

November 22, 2010  02:17 PM ET

Zombie thread, but true for now-PSU should not get into the BCS title game ahead of a 1 loss SEC or B12 team in 2010....

November 23, 2010  10:54 AM ET

are you sure you do not like the SEC? you spell like a southerner!

 
November 26, 2010  12:04 AM ET

Holy thread necro batman.

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