NCAAF  > General NCAAF  > Is Lane Kiffen the new Forrest Gump?
June 13, 2010, 04:39 PM
Just wondering what the general consensus is out there about ole Lane, given the fact that he is being paid top-level money but he hasn't as yet proven himself a top-level coach.
July 9, 2010  09:05 PM ET
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I bet SEC fans are glad to see Kiffen leave. I mean Tenn has been a pushover for several years, and he was on track to change that. Plus, he was stealing top recruits from other SEC schools and talking trash as he was doing it! Now, I guess Tenn will still be a pushover and not a vacuum for top talent. LOL!

I don't know how you can say that with a straight face. Myles, Meyer, Saban, Spurrier et. al make the SEC #1 when it comes to quality of coaches. Kiffen reminds me more of a typical "newbie" on one of these message boards -- all mouth. I'm not saying he won't one day be among the coaching elite, but as for now, he has yet to prove he has the chops. I do agree that SEC fans are glad to see him go, but for different reasons. Most fans, IMHO, were growing tired of his numerous wildly false accusations and brash attitude, without being able to back it up. It would have been interesting to see what he would have done at UT had he stayed another year or two.

July 9, 2010  09:09 PM ET
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I don't know how you can say that with a straight face. Myles, Meyer, Saban, Spurrier et. al make the SEC #1 when it comes to quality of coaches. Kiffen reminds me more of a typical "newbie" on one of these message boards -- all mouth. I'm not saying he won't one day be among the coaching elite, but as for now, he has yet to prove he has the chops. I do agree that SEC fans are glad to see him go, but for different reasons. Most fans, IMHO, were growing tired of his numerous wildly false accusations and brash attitude, without being able to back it up. It would have been interesting to see what he would have done at UT had he stayed another year or two.

Also glad he took his Dad and the Ogre. If those two stick together they are going to develop USC into great defensive powerhouse.

July 10, 2010  01:49 AM ET

Personally, I think USC would be better off ditching Lane Kiffen, diva, and promoting his dad to head coach. If they did a significant enough buyout then Lane might go with little hoopla. From everything that I have heard about Monte, he has the maturity and leadership ability to make a great head coach. But, I know this is a dream because as a parent I couldn't stay if my child was "fired".

To me that is one of the biggest tragedies if LK doesn't come through for USC. He will have drug his father down with him.

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July 10, 2010  04:15 AM ET
QUOTE(#15):

I don't know how you can say that with a straight face. Myles, Meyer, Saban, Spurrier et. al make the SEC #1 when it comes to quality of coaches. Kiffen reminds me more of a typical "newbie" on one of these message boards -- all mouth. I'm not saying he won't one day be among the coaching elite, but as for now, he has yet to prove he has the chops. I do agree that SEC fans are glad to see him go, but for different reasons. Most fans, IMHO, were growing tired of his numerous wildly false accusations and brash attitude, without being able to back it up. It would have been interesting to see what he would have done at UT had he stayed another year or two.

From the attitude you've expressed here, you clearly have to be disappointed by the lack of negativity expressed toward Kiffin. There's some great Kiffin-bashing going on over at TandR, and if you hurry you can still get in on it.

July 10, 2010  07:38 AM ET
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From the attitude you've expressed here, you clearly have to be disappointed by the lack of negativity expressed toward Kiffin. There's some great Kiffin-bashing going on over at TandR, and if you hurry you can still get in on it.

Right now USC is a perfect target for bashing.

1. A dominate program that dipped last year.
2. NCAA sanctions
3. A cocky loud mouth first year coach that sticks his foot in his mouth and is unproven.
4. A cocky loud mouth last year AD that sticks his foot in his mouth and is proven to thumb his nose at the NCAA.

July 10, 2010  08:28 AM ET

My gut reaction is that Kiffin is a good coach.

2 things are indisputable: he can recruit, and he can motivate.

It's hard to argue the excitement he generated in UT fans when proclaimed he'd be "singin Rocky Top all night long after we beat Florida next year." .... And this was after 4 straight losses to UF (including 2 blowouts).

Non-supporters point to his 7-6 record as a cfb head coach. I point to the fact that he was only 32 when he inherited a 5-7 Tennessee team.

I think Kiffin knew he didn't have the players to win 10+ games his first year. So he went for the next best thing - take down the SEC big boys. Beat UF and/or Alabama.
Imagine the fan support and recruiting that would have led to.

And he damn near pulled it off.



Of the 6 losses in 2009, none were all that surprising.

Losses:
- UCLA by 4 pts. His 2nd game. 1 wk before UF.
- @ UF by 10 pts. Held Tebow and co. to 23 pts after some
.. hype about how UF was going to beat UT by 50.
- Auburn by 4 pts. 1 wk before UGA (beat soundly).
- @ Alabama by 2 pts. Last play of the game was a blocked fg
.. by Bama. Held Bama to 4 fg's. Outgained Bama 341-256.
- @ Mississippi. 2 days after the arrest of 3 UT players for armed
.. robbery. UM was coming off an FCS opponent the week prior.
- Va Tech in the bowl game.

I think Kiffin had a successful year 1 in Knoxville.
He did not beat UF or Bama. But, in this case, those close road losses were moral victories - for the fans, and for recruiting.

July 10, 2010  09:26 AM ET

It was a strange question, anyway. Even if Forrest Gump was a real person, which he isn't, his career in football was a shining success.

How can you compare someone with a great college career as a player to a coach who hasn't really done much yet, regardless if he eventually becomes successful?

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July 12, 2010  12:47 AM ET

Did He Who Must Not Be Named(Hint: Rhymes with and probably could use Tampax) escape from the ward already?

July 12, 2010  09:36 AM ET
QUOTE(#15):

Most fans, IMHO, were growing tired of his numerous wildly false accusations and brash attitude, without being able to back it up.

^^ THIS^^... ALLLLLLL talk no action and "moral vicotories".. makes laney an idiot.. he isnt head top notch head coaching material yet....and his mouth writes check his team can't cover.. if in his first year he had turned around a Tenn team.. that wouldve been one thing.. and the whole comment on vacuuming up top SEC talant?... LOL... UF has had one of THE top recruiting classes in the last 5 years.. Tenn was lucky to get the slopy seconds.

July 12, 2010  10:18 AM ET

Logically - given the question that began this thread - if Kiffen is as yet unproven, then I think it's reasonable to ask about the wisdom of paying him "top-level money" (Forrest Gump issue aside). If USC thought that he was their man, despite his lack of NC credentials, then they can pay him whatever they think he deserves. It remains to be seen (a la Tnerb) whether that was a wise decision. Of course, they won't be winning any postseason games for the next two years ...

July 12, 2010  10:21 AM ET

Why the insult to Forrest Gump? He is/was a good guy.......

July 12, 2010  11:08 AM ET

I believe top pay should be for coaches that have proved themselves as worthy. So, it is a risky gamble, that may or may not prove wise.

August 1, 2010  07:37 AM ET

One thing's for sure... Kiffen won't be retiring in Tennessee.

August 1, 2010  12:13 PM ET

I'm confused as to the Forrest Gump reference?

August 1, 2010  12:29 PM ET

Basically, the tongue-in-cheeck point I was trying to make (maybe unsuccessfully) was that Forrest Gump was a simple man with below average intelligence who, through a series of events, not only has a major influence on pop culture, but ends up quite successful (Bubba Gump Shrimp) in spite of his limitations.

Kiffen is still a relatively young coach without a track record (good or bad) that has "moved up" the coaching ladder at a very young age. Some people (admittedly including me) scratch their heads that he has landed two of the highest-profile head coaching jobs in the land without putting together an impressive body of work. That's all. I wasn't trying to say that he's not capable of being a top-level head coach, just that he's certainly not there yet, but he's being paid top-level head coach money at now two premiere college football institutions. That's just my two cents worth...

August 1, 2010  12:47 PM ET

I see. Well, i guess that is an interesting point, in a sense.
I guess I don't look at people like "Forrest Gump" as limited in anything in life, regardless of their cognitive limits.

August 1, 2010  12:56 PM ET

Lane Kiffen, another con man, trying to promote himself.

 
August 1, 2010  05:35 PM ET
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As for recruiting - at the time he was leaving, he wasn't doing that well against his rivals. He was doing OK.

Yo Joe, seriously??? Lane was putting together recruiting classes that were among the best not only in your beloved conference, but in the conversation as being best in the nation. Don't let your tide glasses gloss over facts bro.

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