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word is that the Chargers are really considering trading Jackson. Him holding out along with his multiple DUI's and driving on a suspended license is really pushing AJ toward that. Wonder what they would get for him?

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Originally posted 03:31 PM ET  07.04 by stevkline

word is that the Chargers are really considering trading Jackson. Him holding out along with his multiple DUI's and driving on a suspended license is really pushing AJ toward that. Wonder what they would get for him?

Jackson fancies himself as more valuable than Brandon Marshall, but Marshall has done more over his career than Jackson has, and as a go-forward proposition Jackson is a risk for any team, including the Chargers. One more screw-up and he qualifies to lose an entire season to suspension, so he's at least as big a risk as Marshall is, maybe more.

One report said the Bears were considering offering Aromashodu and a 2nd round pick for Jackson. I'm sure the Chargers would love a first round pick for VJ, but I don't see it with his baggage. Knowing AJ, he will demand a first rounder, or two second round picks, or a second round pick and some talent equal to a second round pick. With the 3 game suspension, the go-forward risk, and Jackson's contract expectations, I would think there would be less demand for him. I don't think he's worth as much as Marshall, but he does. And he is a monster on the field, with great size, speed, and hands.

If I had to predict, I'd say AJ isn't able to get his two second round picks, and the Chargers settle for a second and third round pick, or a second round pick and third round-type talent. Anything better than that is a win for the Chargers, although best case (the real win, the win win) is keeping him and him getting a long term deal and straightening out his personal life.

Bottom line is I've pretty much written VJ off, unfortunately. Love to see him stay and sign, but I don't see it happening. Still holding out hope on the McNeill front. Watch for Malcolm Floyd to emerge with a big year. Like VJ, he's a huge target, gets open, and has great yds/catch stats. And with Rivers throwing the ball, a guy like Floyd can flourish.

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Originally posted 02:55 AM ET  07.05 by -ripper-

Jackson fancies himself as more valuable than Brandon Marshall, but Marshall has done more over his career than Jackson has, and as a go-forward proposition Jackson is a risk for any team, including the Chargers. One more screw-up and he qualifies to lose an entire season to suspension, so he's at least as big a risk as Marshall is, maybe more. One report said the Bears were considering offering Aromashodu and a 2nd round pick for Jackson. I'm sure the Chargers would love a first round pick for VJ, but I don't see it with his baggage. Knowing AJ, he will demand a first rounder, or two second round picks, or a second round pick and some talent equal to a second round pick. With the 3 game suspension, the go-forward risk, and Jackson's contract expectations, I would think there would be less demand for him. I don't think he's worth as much as Marshall, but he does. And he is a monster on the field, with great size, speed, and hands. If I had to predict, I'd say AJ isn't able to get his two second round picks, and the Chargers settle for a second and third round pick, or a second round pick and third round-type talent. Anything better than that is a win for the Chargers, although best case (the real win, the win win) is keeping him and him getting a long term deal and straightening out his personal life. Bottom line is I've pretty much written VJ off, unfortunately. Love to see him stay and sign, but I don't see it happening. Still holding out hope on the McNeill front. Watch for Malcolm Floyd to emerge with a big year. Like VJ, he's a huge target, gets open, and has great yds/catch stats. And with Rivers throwing the ball, a guy like Floyd can flourish.

I am not sure VJ is worth what AJ is going to be asking for him. I think he is more of a product of Rivers good deep pass then him being a top WR. I agree that this gives Floyd a chance to step right in and get those jump balls way down the field. I would not want my team trading multiple draft picks for VJ

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Originally posted 12:30 PM ET  07.05 by stevkline

I am not sure VJ is worth what AJ is going to be asking for him. I think he is more of a product of Rivers good deep pass then him being a top WR. I agree that this gives Floyd a chance to step right in and get those jump balls way down the field. I would not want my team trading multiple draft picks for VJ

Yeah, I think some potential trade partner organizations probably feel the same way. Can't blame them. This guy is a risk of making another costly mistake. I think he is partly a product of the system, but I also think his size, speed, and route running do place him in a desireable, semi-rare category where he would help a lot of teams. The age old question: does the WR make the QB or vice versa. Well, in this case it's pretty clear that Rivers can make due without VJ, but I hope he doesn't have to. In SD, imo the QB makes the WR.

Interesting that now the Chargers are claiming VJ is not being shopped. And with their ability to slap the franchise tag on him next year (whether they would actually do that seems to be a big question mark), maybe he won't be going anywhere? Enough drama to make my head spin. Just gonna have to wait this one out, I guess. Additional predictions by me on this topic will result more flip-floppin' than we saw in the Kerry and Dubya campaigns a few years back combined.

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Originally posted 03:06 PM ET  07.06 by -ripper-

Yeah, I think some potential trade partner organizations probably feel the same way. Can't blame them. This guy is a risk of making another costly mistake. I think he is partly a product of the system, but I also think his size, speed, and route running do place him in a desireable, semi-rare category where he would help a lot of teams. The age old question: does the WR make the QB or vice versa. Well, in this case it's pretty clear that Rivers can make due without VJ, but I hope he doesn't have to. In SD, imo the QB makes the WR.Interesting that now the Chargers are claiming VJ is not being shopped. And with their ability to slap the franchise tag on him next year (whether they would actually do that seems to be a big question mark), maybe he won't be going anywhere? Enough drama to make my head spin. Just gonna have to wait this one out, I guess. Additional predictions by me on this topic will result more flip-floppin' than we saw in the Kerry and Dubya campaigns a few years back combined.

Good point about who make who look better. Maybe Rivers suffers now that he doesnt have that big deep threat he can toss it up at knowing he will probably come down with the ball.

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Originally posted 07:51 PM ET  07.06 by EazyDozit

I hope Yer QB and Recievers don't have the misfortune the Bengals had last Year..Good Luck..

Thanks, EZ. Good luck to the Bengals, too. If both of our teams are fortunate, maybe we'll have a chance for some '82 Freezer Bowl payback, eh?

On the contracts front, A.J.'s got to be one of the most stubborn GMs ever when it comes to contract negotiation. That guy just doesn't give in to anything. There aren't many guys getting paid right now on the Chargers roster, because of the difficult CBA year. Rivers, Castillo, and Dielman come to mind, and Sproles due to being franchised, and not much beyond that.

Hope it gets resolved and it doesn't bite the Chargers in the arse. Now they're reporting that if VJ doesn't report to the Chargers by at least the day before their fourth preseason game, the team can place him on a "roster exempt" list for three games. If that happens, he can't wait til Week 10 to report (need at least six games to get an accrued year), because the "roster exempt" status takes three games of credit away. So he might have to report by Week 7 to avoid the possibility of being denied an accrued season. It's a game of chicken, but A.J. won't be turning his wheel, and VJ should know that. If it's a Head-on collision, no one wins except the rest of the AFC West.

I think the good news for us this year is the AFC West is still on the weaker side so even with McNeil and Jackson missing time we are probably going to be OK.

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seems like the chargers are ''cursed'' everytime they're in the playoffs [overall] !

So true, my dear. Can't wait for our first date...Sunday, 10/24/10, 1:15pm Pacific, Qualcomm Stadium. Be there, Baby Doll....you can score even if the Pats can't! Hahah. Famous last words? You guys have owned the Bolts in recent years. Still smarting from that home playoff loss in '07. Thanks, Marlon McCree. I'll get over it....never.

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Originally posted 06:02 PM ET  07.19 by EazyDozit

Ripper,We get a shot at them the 1st game of the season[that'll be an indicator on what direction the Bengals are going this year.]

Yeah, EZ, I see you have the Pats at their house to start the regular season, no easy chore, and then you get "rewarded" by having to face the Ravens the next week! Man, your team will definitely know where it stands early on, particularly if you get a W or 2 in those first 2 games. A split would be pretty good, I think. You'd like to avoid the 0-2 start, but it's staring you right in the face, EZ. Good luck, my friend! If you get by those first two games ok, you can make it to your Week 6 Bye in pretty good shape, I think. Ifn I had to bet, I'd have your Bengals at 3-2 going into the Bye. Anything better will be an excellent start, and that's why they play the games. Can't wait for the season to begin!