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June 29, 2010, 07:40 PM
Been out of the country since May (without a computer) and just got back. Saw some headlines, so I'm getting caught up, but still looking for some discussion on the following points:

1. As a 10-team conference does the Big XII drop its CCG?

2. What are the chances the Big XII makes a move to get back to 12 by adding TCU and another (SMU? Houston? Memphis?)?

3. If the Big XII gets back to strength, where's that leave the Big East as the only BCS conference without 12 teams and a CCG?

4. Why does Mike Garrett still have a job?

5. What's up with all the muppets?

Any insight would be appreciated.
July 1, 2010  09:12 AM ET

yip
YIpE
YEee-ipes

July 1, 2010  09:39 AM ET
QUOTE:

3. It may not be decided yet to have the CCGs, but I'm thinking it's inevitable. This expansion business is about $$$, and CCGs are money-makers.
4. If there was a silver lining to the sanctions, it was the prospect that the school president would throw Garrett under the bus. I'm hoping there's still a chance.

For question #2, the Big XII now has a TV revenue-sharing agreement designed to make Bevo feel like a bull instead of a steer. Two more teams would bring a CCG, but also more hands extended for their cut of the revenue.
For #3, a CCG would bring revenue, but it would also guarantee a loss to one of the two best teams in the conference. Getting two teams into BCS bowls will be a priority, so I can imagine the Pac-12 and Big Ten deciding not to stage a CCG.
#4: I think Garrett won't go until the on-field performance of the football and basketball teams declines sufficiently for fans to call for his head.

July 1, 2010  10:12 AM ET
QUOTE(#21):

#4: I think Garrett won't go until the on-field performance of the football and basketball teams declines sufficiently for fans to call for his head.

That's a shame if they wait for that to happen before they run that guy off. He either was asleep at the wheel, or turned a blind eye, and neither of those are acceptable IMO, and reflect extremely poorly on the program and the university.

July 1, 2010  05:25 PM ET
QUOTE(#22):

That's a shame if they wait for that to happen before they run that guy off. He either was asleep at the wheel, or turned a blind eye, and neither of those are acceptable IMO, and reflect extremely poorly on the program and the university.

Garrett gets credit for USC football's return to elite status, but he didn't even want Carroll - he just settled for him because the guy he wanted declined the job.

A few years ago Mike Gillespie, one of the better baseball coaches in the country got fed up and left to coach UC Irvine. Quite a move from USC with 12 CWS titles to Irvine with only 1 regional in its history. Garrett replaced Gillespie with Gillespie's son-in-law and USC has been at or below .500 ever since. Gillespie meanwhile has taken UC Irvine to the regionals every year.

Over the years USC has excelled in several sports winning 28 NC's in combined track, 9 in swimming, 6 in men's volleyball and 6 in women's tennis. None of those NC's have been in the last 17 years that Garrett has been AD.

Garrett is a lop who embraces mediocrity and compromise. Sleeping at the wheel is what he does best, but we might disagree that he should be the scapegoat for the NCAA's sanctions. I'm not sure anyone else would have seen Carroll's "open-door" policy as a red flag inviting Bush's transgressions, at least not enough to make Carroll change something that might upset the applecart. But that's another discussion.

I just think the university is squandering an opportunity to dump this bum. If USC stonewalls and keeps the guy, then that would IMO reflect poorly on the school.

July 1, 2010  08:42 PM ET
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4. If there was a silver lining to the sanctions, it was the prospect that the school president would throw Garrett under the bus. I'm hoping there's still a chance.

That's what I was thinking too.

Since Garrett started the whole mess, let him stick around for all the bad stuff (investigations/rulings/appeals/etc). Then, once the dust has settled, can his incompetent a**
and get a leader in there.

July 1, 2010  08:54 PM ET

Not to mention his flippant attitude through all this. His reality meter doesn't even register.

July 1, 2010  09:11 PM ET
QUOTE(#24):

That's what I was thinking too.Since Garrett started the whole mess, let him stick around for all the bad stuff (investigations/rulings/appeals/etc). Then, once the dust has settled, can his incompetent a**and get a leader in there.

By keeping Garrett, the signal I get from USC is that they don't think the AD is in any way culpable, so therefore the NCAA can expect more of the same as long as Garrett is around. Bad idea for an appeal for leniency.

July 2, 2010  02:49 AM ET
QUOTE(#25):

Not to mention his flippant attitude through all this. His reality meter doesn't even register.

I think you're right on with that comment, GR. What's surprising is that Garrett has projected his arrogance clear across the country.

July 2, 2010  03:16 AM ET
QUOTE(#26):

By keeping Garrett, the signal I get from USC is that they don't think the AD is in any way culpable, so therefore the NCAA can expect more of the same as long as Garrett is around. Bad idea for an appeal for leniency.

I think USC realizes that the damage is done.

Bringing in a new AD for the appeals process would only start him off on the wrong foot.
Better to put all the blame on Garrett.

This is the only reason I can see as to why he is still employed there.

July 2, 2010  03:18 AM ET

Fortunately for Garrett, Georgia's AD just got arrested for DUI.

That should take some of the media pressure off Garrett - at least for a week or so.

July 2, 2010  07:06 AM ET
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and I just giggle like a school girl everytime I see or hear something about USC being his dream job... How's that dream job working out for ya Lame?

I don't get it. He is young, rich, and has a hot wife. He could also go 13-0 this year if his team plays up to its talent level. What exactly is bad about that life?

July 3, 2010  01:10 AM ET
QUOTE(#21):

For question #2, the Big XII now has a TV revenue-sharing agreement designed to make Bevo feel like a bull instead of a steer. Two more teams would bring a CCG, but also more hands extended for their cut of the revenue.

Tommy Tuberville was reprimanded today by the Big XII for expressing his opinion that the conference won't last long because of the disparity of revenue distribution among the member schools.

Is Tuberville becoming the Kiffin of the Big XII, or is he just addressing the 800 pound gorilla in the room?

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July 3, 2010  01:21 AM ET
QUOTE(#31):

Is Tuberville becoming the Kiffin of the Big XII, or is he just addressing the 800 pound gorilla in the room?

I don't know about Tommy, but I always address 800 pound gorillas with a certain degree of caution.

July 3, 2010  01:38 AM ET

.... and usually from a distance.

July 4, 2010  09:41 AM ET

A pair of boots and some old socks. That's all I need.

July 6, 2010  02:00 AM ET
QUOTE(#35):

A pair of boots and some old socks. That's all I need.

What kind of social setting works with you being naked in a pair of boots?

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July 6, 2010  07:23 AM ET
QUOTE(#31):

Is Tuberville becoming the Kiffin of the Big XII, or is he just addressing the 800 pound gorilla in the room?

I vote the latter. There is a man named Beebe who has some very thin skin and evidently does not take criticism well. The conference just lost its Championship Game, saw its 3rd- or 2nd-best team go to the Big Ten, and set up a revenue agreement that favors Texas...and by the way, the reason Nebraska left was because Texas was getting too much favoritism. Beebe reprimanded Tuberville because there is a policy against criticizing the other members of the conference. He did not criticize any other coach or team: he complimented Mike Slive and drew a contrast with his current head man.

 
July 6, 2010  08:31 AM ET
QUOTE(#36):

What kind of social setting works with you being naked in a pair of boots?

In my experience only the extremely fun ones that are right on the edge of the law. Something to do with Zulu Warriors

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