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Les might have issues at LSU in 2010, but if he does it won't be over NFL players, it will be over the W-L record on the field. No one in CFB other than fans cares all that much about the NFL other than how many dudes from your team got drafted year in and year out. On that score LSU does pretty well.

Will he get credit for the players that have done well in the NFL and stayed out of trouble? I hate to say it but Les is on the hot seat this year. Most programs would be thrilled with a 9-3 record but not our fans. A 10 win season is the minimal expectation each year. Forget that he has a Sugar bowl victory and a National Championship...........has won 4 of 5 bowls he coached for the Fighting Tigers.

Tiger fans see that we recruit in the top 5 almost every year and expect conference championsips every year. How silly is that? I like him, he has outstanding character and runs a good program. Of course I wanted to kick him in the nuts when he let time expire in the Ole Miss game which cost us our 10-2 reg season. Otherwise I like Les Very Mucho.

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Originally posted 05:52 AM ET  07.06 by CenLA Tiger

Of course I wanted to kick him in the nuts when he let time expire in the Ole Miss game which cost us our 10-2 reg season.

Tell us how you really feel.

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Originally posted 01:55 AM ET  07.06 by Hammered_in_Soup

Face it, if Pat screws up everyone will be all over Rich-Rod.

Really? I don't know when that kind of thing has happened before. Ryan Leaf was a pretty big NFL bust, but I don't remember anyone blaming the Washington State coach, whoever he was. Russell is just another very good college player who couldn't make it in the NFL, apparently due to lack of maturity.

On a somewhat related note, my brother-in-law, who cheers for Michigan, also has a low opinion of Rich-Rod and wants Michigan to fire him after this season and hire Les Miles. How does that sound, Hammered?

At least Les Miles has won MOST his team's games recently. LSU fans don't have much to complain about there. Any team expecting to win conf titles every year or compete for NC's every year, is just being unrealistic.

Rich-Rod, on the other hand, has won exactly 1/3 of his games at UM. AND... the school has racked up over $446,000 in legal fees, in just the LAST 10 MONTHS, regarding the pending NCAA investigations.

Now THOSE are things fans can, and will, complain about!!

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Originally posted 09:55 AM ET  07.06 by TheSchoolUpNorth

At least Les Miles has won MOST his team's games recently. LSU fans don't have much to complain about there. Any team expecting to win conf titles every year or compete for NC's every year, is just being unrealistic.Rich-Rod, on the other hand, has won exactly 1/3 of his games at UM. AND... the school has racked up over $446,000 in legal fees, in just the LAST 10 MONTHS, regarding the pending NCAA investigations.Now THOSE are things fans can, and will, complain about!!

What about the cost of the UWV buyout? I thought Michigan covered that as well.

Come on Les watch some Pure Michigan TV ads and return home. ;)

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Originally posted 05:52 AM ET  07.06 by CenLA Tiger

Will he get credit for the players that have done well in the NFL and stayed out of trouble? I hate to say it but Les is on the hot seat this year. Most programs would be thrilled with a 9-3 record but not our fans. A 10 win season is the minimal expectation each year. Forget that he has a Sugar bowl victory and a National Championship...........has won 4 of 5 bowls he coached for the Fighting Tigers.Tiger fans see that we recruit in the top 5 almost every year and expect conference championsips every year. How silly is that? I like him, he has outstanding character and runs a good program. Of course I wanted to kick him in the nuts when he let time expire in the Ole Miss game which cost us our 10-2 reg season. Otherwise I like Les Very Mucho.

Yep, hope the LSU fans are very careful for what they wish for.

Nebraska comes to mind as an example of a program that was humming along at the 9-3 level for a few years, people demanded change, and then they proceeded to suck for 5 years. I thought it was funny as **** as an SDSU fan though-I would kill for a few 9-3 seasons in a row.

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Originally posted 10:59 AM ET  07.06 by Armpit

Yep, hope the LSU fans are very careful for what they wish for.

Nebraska comes to mind as an example of a program that was humming along at the 9-3 level for a few years, people demanded change, and then they proceeded to suck for 5 years. I thought it was funny as **** as an SDSU fan though-I would kill for a few 9-3 seasons in a row.

Very true Armpit.

LSU fans need to take a long, hard look at their situation (which isn't bad at all) and weigh the options.

They could go from pretty decent to pretty bad with 1 pretty hasty coaching change.

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Originally posted 02:33 AM ET  07.06 by TnerB57

Any NCAA coach can't possibly be expected to be held accountable for former players actions. No one has a crystal ball that can predict how someone will respond to the glory, accolades, money and prestige that come from being a star in the sporting arena.We all are human, imperfect, and born with strengths and weaknesses. Sometimes the weaknesses can overshadow the strengths. Most of us deal with this in anonymity. For an unfortunate few, the struggles of life occur on the public stage, and are magnified to unfair levels. Its easy to forget that these superstars, or superstars-to-be, are just like us.

One of the reasons Jamarcus Russell was in the NFL is that Les Miles booted him off the team, presumably for repeated behavioral problems. Despite my less than positive feelings about Les Miles, in general, it seems to me that he did what was within his power to do, to curtail the bad aspects of this young man's character. Mr. Russell was determined to terminate his collegiate career early, despite what Les Miles tried to do.

As for professional athletes ... they ARE different from the rest of us in a very significant way: they're being paid millions to play a kid's game. They're public figures and what comes with being a public figure is the public scrutiny of all aspects of their life. Privacy is usually lost when becoming a public figure, in exchange for the fortunes they're being paid.

I don't disagree that we and they share both positive and negative character components, and I'm not making a moral judgment of anyone ... but the absurdity of throwing away fame and fortune because someone can't control themselves (or seek help in doing so) is simply astounding. All this kid had to do was to use his talents productively ... and behave sensibly ... and he had it made for life. Now he's tossed that aside for whatever pleasure he derives from his excesses. Sad, sad, sad ...

I heart what you all are saying.

When it comes to JaMarcus I just get so ticked off that venting sometimes helps.

I can also say the same thing about Rich-Rod, venting helps.

I have also had to deal with FOX (Rupert) and the McCourts owning the Dodgers for the last 13 years. Ohhh the misery of that is not printable.

Crying in my Coke Zero quad.

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Originally posted 12:08 PM ET  07.06 by Hammered_in_Soup

I can also say the same thing about Rich-Rod, venting helps.

I sense goodness still left in you. Leave the Dark Side. Come over to the Light....become a Buckeye!!

For the Record:
JaMarcus was busted in his house, and the Codeine Syrup was used to make

"Purple Drank" a hip hop drink made with Jolly Rancher candy and 7up plus the Codeine Syrup.

WOW, REALLY? come to mind.

Here is the Wikipedia site

Purple Drank

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Originally posted 03:27 PM ET  07.06 by .5BlaqMods/FriedChicken

Les didnt boot Russell off the team.. That was Perriloser.. Google woorks

I stand corrected on that point. I gather there were some issues with Russell about academics that required some effort. He evidently wasn't much interested in education ...

If you were a fly, in the right place, at the right time on the right wall - would you get all cocky and let it go to your head?