NBA  > General NBA  > Championships are not won in free agency
July 8, 2010, 01:54 AM
I don't give a crap who goes where. If Boozer goes to Chicago, Bosh goes to Miami, the Lakers and Celtics stay the same, Shaq goes to Atlanta...what differance does it make?
Really, this is July. NBA ramps up through the season and even if you real off 60 wins, it doesn't mean a thing until those playoffs roll around. Ask the Cavs of the last 2-3 years. So even if you land Bosh, Wade, and Lebron in Miami, I'm still gonna favor the Celtics. The Celtics are doers, and they prove it. They are not talkers.
I cringe as I say that, because I am a Knicks fan. But first and foremost I am a fan of good basketball. I don't care what team you assemble, it does not guarantee anything. It comes down to who wants it more.
Ask the 2004 Lakers that added Gary Payton, Karl Malone, Kobe Bryant, and Shaquille O'neal. Who did they lose out to again? A group of people that were actually a team. Ben Wallace, Tayshawn Prince, Rip Hamilton, and castaway Chauncey Billups manhandled them.
That's what wins in the playoffs, a group that wants to get it done. The team that is hungry, hard working, and not going to back down. Ask yourself who will be hungrier next season come playoff time? The team with 3 guys signed to max deals that are enjoying shoe deals? Don't think so.
I hope that however this summer turns out, some team that actually has an identity as a team is holding an NBA championship next season.
Lets go Oklohoma City Thunder!!! Charlotte Bobcats!!! Or even the LA Clippers with MVP Blake Griffin (wouldn't that be funny).
July 8, 2010  12:25 PM ET

The Celtics are a good team but in the end, talent wins in a 7 game series...

Miami will need role players to win for sure but even your Celtics are no lock to get back to the East Finals.

Orlando is good, Chicago will be better and do not forget about Atlanta.

Wade won a title with a bunch of role players and Shaq...give him LBJ and Bosh, both in their prime and role players and they are going to be tough to stop.

Miami wins that series 4-2 every time.

July 8, 2010  01:50 PM ET

If LeBron is smart "IF", he would resign with Cleveland or go to New York. Simply put, if LeBron wants to build his own legacy, he will "ONLY" do so by building a team around him and taking them to the promise-land. If he decides to join the Miami Heat, he will be joining Dwayne Wade's team and helping build D-Wade's legacy. For all this talk about LeBron not wanting to follow someone else's footsteps, lets see where his heart truly is when he makes his decision.

July 8, 2010  04:01 PM ET

Very good post manuvsteal. I agree with you. The games and series are won on the courts not by big-mouthed agents and gangs of super-star sycophants. We'll see next spring. I doubt Lebron will be playing the finals no matter who he signs with.

July 8, 2010  08:43 PM ET

In most cases I would agree. But how do you explain the 2007-08 Boston Celtics?

1. In 2006-2007 they finished with a 24-58 record
2. In the 2007 off-season they landed Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen
3. In 2007-2008 they won the NBA Championship

July 8, 2010  10:24 PM ET

Blame the players as much as you want but let's face it, the NBA and sports in general is a business. Unlike Kobe, who demanded a trade a few years ago, Lebron never slammed his teammates/team and he actually played out his contact.

July 9, 2010  12:43 AM ET

I give him credit for that, however I'm just saying Lebron hasn't turned a corner. Chris Bosh is not a playoff leader. I do say they have 2 good leaders in Dwayne and Lebron. At #4 I say that the Celtics got better because Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen were more team players than Superstars at that point.
Look at this years playoffs, the Celtics nearly lost out to the Thunder who have 2 good young players, because they wanted it more. All I'm saying is that I can see Miami losing in the first round to a pissed off Atlanta team that got stomped last year, but now has Shaq. I can see them losing to a Celtic team that just seams to turn it on when they need to.
I just hope that in whatever happens, I see good basketball next year. Not the team with the most stars getting the better calls.

July 9, 2010  12:44 AM ET

Lakers not Celtics* first round series

July 9, 2010  02:21 AM ET

how's what Miami did any different then how the Yankees "bought" a championship. the way i see it its worse, and LeBron is ruining his legacy by the day

July 9, 2010  06:55 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

how's what Miami did any different then how the Yankees "bought" a championship. the way i see it its worse, and LeBron is ruining his legacy by the day

Doesn't LeBron have to take a pay cut to play for Miami? Or are they able to offer him a max contract? I thought he would have made more money staying in Cleveland.

July 9, 2010  07:55 AM ET

How did Boston win a title 3 yrs ago.. Former Celtic (Minnesota GM Kevin Mchale) Gave them KG in a Trade.. They were not a contender until then. Lakers how did they win the last 2 titles. Former Laker (Memphis GM Jerry West) gave them Paul Gasol in a trade. Laker were barely making the playoffs before then. Does that water down Kobes Legacy??? or Pierce????

July 9, 2010  09:41 AM ET

Championships may not be won in Free Agency but Championship teams are built in it!!

Miami has now signed Wade, Bosh and LeBron...they traded Beasley and just signed Mike Miller who ONLY shot 48% from 3pt range last season...add him to Chalmers, Joel Anthony and the rooks from the draft and Miami is at 9 players.

This team is coming together...

Just imagine LBJ handling the point like Magic used to do...Wade roams the wing looking for lanes to drive with Miller on the outside and Bosh and Anthony in the lane....

If you commit two guys on LBJ (HAVE TO), he will open up shots for Wade, Miller and Bosh on the baseline...if you don't, he will drive you to the rim for fouls and scores...

In the end, pick your poison....

July 9, 2010  12:54 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

In most cases I would agree. But how do you explain the 2007-08 Boston Celtics?1. In 2006-2007 they finished with a 24-58 record2. In the 2007 off-season they landed Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen3. In 2007-2008 they won the NBA Championship

Big difference in the two teams is this. Kevin is a defensive player who plays near the rim. Add in a three point specialist in Ray Allen then you have guys who come together in such a way that benefits the team.

I'm hard pressed to see who will play defense for the Heat. And they have to round out their roster with some guys who can back up those three talents. And the question is can Lebron play with the other two? Can he share that stage? Time will tell.

July 9, 2010  02:09 PM ET

Who will play defense? Umm....LeBron is NBA All Defense 1st team and Wade is 2nd team behind Kobe.

I think you got 2 solid defenders there...plus, Miami is in talks with Raja Bell to come in at the Vet Minimum.

They just added Mike Miller, who ONLY shot 48% from 3 last season in Washington of all places...that will only go up playing along side these guys.

They still have Chalmers and Anthony at Center...so, the team is coming together...

I can see them adding Eddie House or Jason Williams at PG as well...

July 9, 2010  02:28 PM ET
QUOTE(#13):

Who will play defense? Umm....LeBron is NBA All Defense 1st team and Wade is 2nd team behind Kobe.I think you got 2 solid defenders there...plus, Miami is in talks with Raja Bell to come in at the Vet Minimum.They just added Mike Miller, who ONLY shot 48% from 3 last season in Washington of all places...that will only go up playing along side these guys.They still have Chalmers and Anthony at Center...so, the team is coming together...I can see them adding Eddie House or Jason Williams at PG as well...

I'm just not sold on Miami. Now if they become NBA champs hats off to them. But until it happens this is sound and fury signifying nothing.

July 9, 2010  03:46 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

The Celtics are a good team but in the end, talent wins in a 7 game series...Miami will need role players to win for sure but even your Celtics are no lock to get back to the East Finals.Orlando is good, Chicago will be better and do not forget about Atlanta.Wade won a title with a bunch of role players and Shaq...give him LBJ and Bosh, both in their prime and role players and they are going to be tough to stop.Miami wins that series 4-2 every time.

I dig those Celtics and they will dig down deep, but it's about talent!!

July 10, 2010  08:48 AM ET

Song Written about Lebron James Decision.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYICMNS62AQ

July 14, 2010  09:26 AM ET

It's not always about talent. If so, Portland would have on in 2000, Sacramento in 2001 and 2002, Lakers in 2004, Dallas in 2006, Cleveland in 2009 and Orlando in 2010. Talent is very important for obvious reasons, but clutch factors, team defense, rebounding, ball handling, etc... all are important. This is not a video game where you can put 3 of the best players on one team and dominate any other team. Although it's easy and tempting for any Heat fan to think this way, let's just say Miami is going to be very good this season but they'll have to win to prove themselves.

July 14, 2010  11:32 AM ET
QUOTE(#14):

I'm just not sold on Miami. Now if they become NBA champs hats off to them. But until it happens this is sound and fury signifying nothing.

Sold on Miami?

Ok...think about it... LBJ took the Cavs to over 60 wins and fell short in the playoffs and not by much I might add...plus the team that beat them almost won the title..

Ok...now Miami has Wade, Bosh, James, Miller, Chalmers, Ilgauskas, Haslem and Anthony under contract with Howard virtually a done deal.

This team has a combo of some of the BEST 1 on 1 players on Earth in Wade and LBJ and baseline shooters in Haslem and Bosh...toss in the big bodies of Z, and Anthony and you have a team.

Miami still needs to land another 3pt shooter or 2, preferably from the PG spot...maybe a Eddie House or Jason Williams fills that role.

I am telling you now...Miami wins 60+ games, takes the East and goes to the Finals...assuming the Lakers make it, it would be a good series...

 
July 22, 2010  01:43 PM ET

It should be interesting for sure. Though team talent does not always equal championships as some have pointed out. The 96 Bulls team when broken down individual by individual weren't the most talented team ever, but the pieces they had fit together to make them one of the best teams I've ever seen. The pieces they had that I feel made them great were:

Superstar: Jordan
Ultimate Complimentary Player: Pippen
Ultimate Role Player: Rodman
Rest filled with role players who were only expected to do 2 to 3 things and each knew that role and accepted it.

Miami sort of has done the last part, but it will be interesting to see how their top 3 work together.

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