NCAAF  > General NCAAF  > Where wil they go?
July 26, 2010, 11:00 PM
It is easy to see that the NCAA is on the verge of being taken over by the super conferance. Where do you think your team will end up? I see when the TV contracts run out Iowa st. , Mizzou, KU, and Kst. moving to the Big . If the big 12 wants to survive they are going to have to jump on some schools. I look for Tx to make moves on all the old schools of the SWC. But evan doing that it won't bring the Big 12 to 16 teams. Or OU, OSU, A&M, and Tech might make the move to the SEC with out TX. So where will TX go? They will fight off any offer where they make the same money as everyone else, and they want to call the shots. I think this a shame coming from a school who carries so much tradition. Not crazy about TX but I will always respect them, but I feel their greediness will be the down fall of any program that puts money first. One school that comes to mind is ND look where their greed has gotten them. So tell me how do u see the future NCAA?
July 26, 2010  11:08 PM ET

Your team went to another conference for more money. You can label others as greedy but ... it's not safe to go around throwing darts while wearing a huge bulls-eye on your back.

July 27, 2010  12:59 AM ET

Unfortunatley, $$$ is the main motivation for many.

... players/coaches (some - not all), athletic depts, AD's, TV networks, the NCAA, etc...


I think the only ones not interested in $$$ are the student athletes that know they have no shot at the NFL (or don't want a shot), and the fans.

July 27, 2010  02:12 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Unfortunatley, $$$ is the main motivation for many.... players/coaches (some - not all), athletic depts, AD's, TV networks, the NCAA, etc...I think the only ones not interested in $$$ are the student athletes that know they have no shot at the NFL (or don't want a shot), and the fans.

The funny thing is the schools are behaving like complete ho's for literally billions and its cool, but god forbid any player gets a free pair of shoes or an advance on an expected NFL salary-that's truly the end of college athletics....

July 27, 2010  06:47 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Your team went to another conference for more money. You can label others as greedy but ... it's not safe to go around throwing darts while wearing a huge bulls-eye on your back.

Yes you are right we went to the Big 10 for more money, and the fact that all conference money is split equally among the schools. I'm not putting TX down for making more money the schools to blame are the ones that jumped on the TX band wagon, and this includes Neb and CU. It's amazing how money always blinds people from the future. TX is a fine prgram but untill they realize that splitting money equally can only build a stronger conferance.

July 27, 2010  06:55 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Unfortunatley, $$$ is the main motivation for many.... players/coaches (some - not all), athletic depts, AD's, TV networks, the NCAA, etc...I think the only ones not interested in $$$ are the student athletes that know they have no shot at the NFL (or don't want a shot), and the fans.

How right you are. Shame on me for forgetting about our student ath. I agree with you so much. The rules put down by the NCAA on those kids are crazy. I wonder if the NCAA has ever sit down and said hey you know if let these kids get paid we might see more kids graduate instead of leaving college early for the pros. I can remember when it was about helping a kid get an education.

July 27, 2010  11:48 AM ET

I was actually complimenting the 'student athlete'.

A very small percentage of them will go on to the riches of the NFL.
Most will earn their college degrees, and go on to become hardworking, productive members of society.

July 27, 2010  11:50 AM ET
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I was actually complimenting the 'student athlete'.A very small percentage of them will go on to the riches of the NFL.Most will earn their college degrees, and go on to become hardworking, productive members of society.

Strictly speaking, the NFL players are very productive. The earn more, spend more, and give more in taxes than I do at least...

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July 27, 2010  01:03 PM ET
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Bottom line, I don't think there's any way to pay the players without doing more harm than good.

Agree completely!

July 27, 2010  10:16 PM ET
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While I don't really think it's fair for the schools to make so much money off of these kids without paying them, I think doing so would create more problems than it solves. First, you can't let schools bid on players. All schools would have to pay the same stipend, and each kid would have to get the same amount. That's fine for tOSU, ND, TX, FL, USC, etc. Might be an issue for the bottom tier of CUSA or WAC schools.Then there's Title IX. I'm willing to bet that if a school pays any of its scholarship athletes, it has to pay them all the same amount. Cash strapped athletic departments would start dropping non-revenue sports at light speed.Bottom line, I don't think there's any way to pay the players without doing more harm than good.

You make a really good point and I agree it would do more harm than good. I just get upset when I see how much money has taken out of the game. I guess it's what I've got to get used to it .

July 27, 2010  10:26 PM ET
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As to the thread topic, it's gonna be geographically challenging to come up with four 16-team conferences. I think five 14-team conferences may evolve instead. That would mean either a 6-team (one wild card) or 8-team (three wild cards) playoff.

So how do you think they will end up? We know Nebraska goes to Big 10, CU goes to Pac 10, and if BSU makes a BCS the PAC 10 will pick them up, and I see ISU and Mizzu going to the Big 10. Which leaves alot of teams to pick up. Tell you the trueth with the money clout that TX brings to the table the BIG 12 may be kept alive.

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July 28, 2010  07:51 AM ET
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Agree completely!

Agree that the schools themselves should not pay the players. IMHO the right way to do this is simply let the players that are good enough take advances on expected NFL salaries by agents.

The agents would assume the risks, the great players would get a taste of money and hopefully learn how to deal with it, more kids would stay for 4 years, and for the vast bulk of CFB players nothing at all would change, as the players that are selling t-shirts for schools are pretty much the same one with NFL futures. Right now all that happens for many players anyway, why not simply remove the dishonesty in the current system?

July 28, 2010  07:57 AM ET
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Happy birthday, CR. I heard on the news this morning that your character was created 70 years ago today.

Thanks JRM!

To celebrate, I'm buying everyone carrot cake and shots of carrot juice at the ice house!

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July 28, 2010  08:40 AM ET
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Big XII dies within five years unless they can get another major revenue producer (i.e., TV draw) to join. Current set-up (Texas, Zero U and eight teams with little fan base) won't work. I give this scenario less than 50/50 odds.Quickest solution for the two big boys would be Zero U, Okie Lite, College Station sheep molesters and Texas to the SEC. That would assure the SEC of having at least four, maybe as many as six, legitimate NC contenders almost every year. I'm guessing they should be able to negotiate a pretty damned good TV contract. Plus, the SEC allows member schools to have their own networks; Oklahoma and Texas will both have theirs up and running by then. Okie Lite and the Aggies might, as well. The problem with this scenario is that it pretty much dooms the remaining Big XII schools to mid-major status. Depending on how many Big East and/or ACC schools it's gobbled up, and whether it's (finally!) been able to land Notre Dame, The Big 10 might have room for either Mizzou or I-State.If it were up to me, I'd go with five super conferences and a six team playoff. Big XII would add Arkansas, Notre Dame, TCU and ................ some other school. Louisville, maybe?

Thiis is how I see it Big 12 done after 5yrs is done. instead of 14 teams it will be 16 in the Big 10, Pac 10 and SEC. the rest will scramble to try and compete. I See KU, Kst, Isu, and Mizzou, wil follow Neb to the Big 10. Pac 10 picks up CU, Boise st., BYU, that will give them 12 where the other 4 come from who knows. I see teams jumping the Mountain west and WAC. These are the teo that will get hit the most. SEC will pick up what is left of the Big 12 or who ever they can get their hands on, or the Big twelve lives and they will start another conference, and with the TV money TX brings to the table they do have the means to start that conference providing the other Big 12 south schoolsw will follow. Who knows?!

July 28, 2010  01:18 PM ET
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How would you keep boosters from funnelling "advances" to their team's players thru agents?

Why would anyone care about that? Again, what is the huge concern here?

 
July 28, 2010  01:19 PM ET
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Horrible idea. Nothing would change for the 'vast bulk of CFB players' (that won't go pro)?Bull crap it wouldn't! Locker room cancers would grow and spread like wild fire. Animosity between those not getting paid and those on the pay roll would create huge problems.

Like you don't have that right now? And smart coaches would be able to use that animosity as a motivator-if you want to get paid then get better.

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