MMA  > General MMA  > A Different Look at Who's the Best?
August 17, 2010, 01:21 AM
Hey Fannation, something a little fun. We all have arguments over who's the best P4P, the best in each weight class, the best overall. But what about the individual skill-sets? So, I've chosen 6, if you can think of more, slap 'em on here. Commence opinions!

In all of MMA...

Who is the best wrestler?

Who is the best striker?

Who is the best BJJ practitioner?

Who is the best at submissions?

Who is the best at knocking people out?

Who got the luckiest?

Think all of MMA, from the beginning to now, any of the organizations.
August 17, 2010  06:34 AM ET

Cyne is a master at creating good topics.

So, this is all-time:

- Who is the best wrestler? Matt Hughes. I could choose GSP but Hughes had those vicious slams and he actually finished guys on the ground. While there are other guys with a stronger wrestling background (Lesnar, Munoz, Coleman, Couture, Kerr, etc) Hughes was a monster wrestler for MMA.

- Who is the best striker? Cro Cop. The man was a beast back in the day, knocking guys out cleanly left and right, namely with high kicks. Even his body shots landed him KOs. Too bad he lost it.

- Who is the best BJJ practitioner? Minotauro Nogueira. A lot of BJJ practitioners aren't able to make a good transition to MMA because of the No Gi, strikes, etc, but you've got Roger Gracie, Demian Maia, BJ Penn, Jacare, Frank Mir, among others. But all-time? It has to be Minotauro; he submitted so many good guys from such different positions it's incredible.

- Who is the best at submissions? I'll go ahead and say Aoki, simply because he has finished guys with an array of different and eye-popping submissions, namely those gogoplatas from everywhere.

- Who is the best at knocking people out? Wanderlei Silva. Ruthless, savage, unmatched aggression. He has so many violent KOs it's hard to keep track; but the two beatings he put on Rampage and the other two on Sakuraba are legendary.

- Who got the luckiest? Mark Coleman. There are different angles you can look at when defining "lucky" but I am looking at the PRIDE GP 2000, the biggest MMA tournament up to 2000. First he got Satake, who didn't have any ground game at all (plus was a lighter fighter); then he got Shoji (lighter) and then an injured Fujita, who didn't fight (it was basically a "bye"); and then, in the Final, he was fresh against Vovchanchyn, who had been in a striking fight with Goodridge and a 15-minute war with Sakuraba.

August 17, 2010  09:10 AM ET

guys, let's just be aware that there's a tourney going on where one of the topics is pretty close to this.
This is a fun topic, and I'll answer after they make their picks.

August 17, 2010  09:57 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

guys, let's just be aware that there's a tourney going on where one of the topics is pretty close to this. This is a fun topic, and I'll answer after they make their picks.

It is??!?! I had no idea, sorry

August 17, 2010  10:06 AM ET

Nah. Don't worry. I know you are not even part of the tourney.
The questions were posted yesterday night. I browsed through it, so I remember the questions although have no idea of who is doing what TD against whom...

I bet Cybe was not aware neither, thus my posting to let you guys know.

August 17, 2010  10:35 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

guys, let's just be aware that there's a tourney going on where one of the topics is pretty close to this. This is a fun topic, and I'll answer after they make their picks.

Missed that, I apologize it I stepped on someone's toes...

August 17, 2010  10:36 AM ET

Missed that. I apologize if I stepped on someone's toes...

August 17, 2010  10:36 AM ET

and now sorry for the double post (sheesh)...

August 17, 2010  10:47 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Missed that, I apologize it I stepped on someone's toes...

No worries, I think he was talking about my TD with Scott.

It is about building the perfect fighter, so it is a little different than this. The perfect fighter cannot just be any combination of skill sets, but they must be able to mesh together to work.

You'll see what I mean in the TD:

http://tinyurl.com/clouis-TD

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August 17, 2010  05:09 PM ET

Hyped has a helluva list.

August 17, 2010  06:20 PM ET

I am not sure if I should say Coleman is "lucky" with irony or not.

Because he did take a dive against Takada...

 
August 17, 2010  11:20 PM ET

here's what I built!

Spider's dance moves.
BJ cardio (while @ WW)
Maia Striking hability
Kongo's Ground game
Chuck Lidell's chin

and I can beat anyone if:
I get Roy's super-secret-weapon belly
or, if all else fails, Tito's excuses!!!

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