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August 20, 2010, 02:05 PM
18 years later and Sports Illustrated is still right.

http://byufootballtalk.blogspot.com/2010/08/brigham-young -cougars-still-most-hated.html
August 20, 2010  02:11 PM ET

I hate WABBITS!!

August 20, 2010  02:24 PM ET

Most ND fans would disagree with that article.

August 20, 2010  02:26 PM ET
QUOTE:

This might be easier.BYU Hatred

Sorry....missed the extra space. This should work better.

BYU Hatred

August 20, 2010  02:39 PM ET

NOTRE DAME, no doubt about it.

What's amazing to me is that the hatred lingers despite nearly 20 years of pathetic football futility by the Neutered Dames.

How to explain it?

Anti-Catholicism among the Unwashed Protestant Heathens?

Underlying foaming hatred-at-the-mouth by Catholic high school grads against the nuns and priests?

NO. I blame the fact that in the pre-cable TV era (I know, you youngins' don't remember that), we got only two games on TV each week. And one of them was always the Neutered Dames.

Still, at this point I'm feeling sorry for Touchdown Jesus. I'm hoping for a comeback. A miracle Lourds-like season for the Domers (maybe 7 wins?).

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August 20, 2010  03:12 PM ET

JRM,

They also have an on-field rep problem stemming from fairly dirty line play. And I do dislike pretty much any BYU team-it will be nice to not have to root for them at all (out of MWC solidarity) if they do, in fact, leave the MWC.

August 20, 2010  03:24 PM ET
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18 years later and Sports Illustrated is still right. http://byufootballtalk.blogspot.com/2010/08/brigham-young -cougars-still-most-hated.html

The link points to a blog on a BYU forum that simply complains about BYU getting passed over in favor of Utah by the Pac-10.

The SI article does a better job of explaining why people don't like BYU:


Randy Rich, a former New Mexico and NFL defensive back, says the ill feelings go back to "their basic attitude that blacks are inferior. Their players are always taunting black players."




They gloat about winning. One player recalls that after his team lost badly to BYU, a Cougar assistant walked up to one of the losing coaches and said, "Get your dogs off the field."




Missions. A football player who arrives in Provo when he's 18 or 19 plays a season and then takes off for two years. Upon his return to BYU, he is often redshirted for a season before completing his three years of eligibility. In some cases, this can mean that the Cougars are matching a 25-year-old player against an opponent's 18-year-old.

Critics charge that the Cougars have used this eligibility rule cynically. That's because while players at certain positions???notably linemen???can only benefit from the passage of time and the adding of bulk, there is little benefit in a quarterback's missing a moment away from the program. And, it turns out, not one of BYU's storied quarterbacks ever went on a mission.

August 20, 2010  03:37 PM ET
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Missions. A football player who arrives in Provo when he's 18 or 19 plays a season and then takes off for two years. Upon his return to BYU, he is often redshirted for a season before completing his three years of eligibility. In some cases, this can mean that the Cougars are matching a 25-year-old player against an opponent's 18-year-old.

As a UNLV fan that goes to a few games every year that is what erks most folks in the stands myself included.
That and "their basic attitude that blacks are inferior."
Funny because some of my best friends are Mormon and they are some of the nicest people south of Canada you'd ever meet.

August 20, 2010  03:41 PM ET

Seems weird.

August 20, 2010  03:54 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

The link points to a blog on a BYU forum that simply complains about BYU getting passed over in favor of Utah by the Pac-10. The SI article does a better job of explaining why people don't like BYU:
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Critics charge that the Cougars have used this eligibility rule cynically. That's because while players at certain positions-- notably linemen-- can only benefit from the passage of time and the adding of bulk, there is little benefit in a quarterback's missing a moment away from the program. And, it turns out, not one of BYU's storied quarterbacks ever went on a mission.

Tennessee had a Mormon DT a few years back, JT Mapu, who went on a two-year mission after his sophomore season. He was great his first two seasons. He lost a LOT of his bulk while on the mission because there are only a few ways to work out that are permitted by the Mormon Church for their missionaries (I don't think weight lifting is permitted, but I could be wrong).
Mapu returned to UT to finish up his eligibility, but I don't think he got another sack during the rest of his playing career.

August 20, 2010  04:10 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

They gloat about winning. One player recalls that after his team lost badly to BYU, a Cougar assistant walked up to one of the losing coaches and said, "Get your dogs off the field."

My old coach used to tell us that if you don't like the other team gloating, then don't lose to them.

Agree that sportsmanship should play a large part in the game, and gloating is poor sportsmanship...the old saying still holds up.

August 20, 2010  04:38 PM ET
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NOTRE DAME, no doubt about it. What's amazing to me is that the hatred lingers despite nearly 20 years of pathetic football futility by the Neutered Dames.

Notre Dame and Miami are not the most-hated, most-cheered-against teams in College Football???? Is nothing sacred? Are the '80s already ancient history? Is Thug-U forgotten? These are not rhetorical questions: I demand a recount, a re-survey, anything!
I know at least three Auburn graduates who cheered for Alabama in the 1992 National Championship against Miami, for crying out loud!
My more serious question is, apart from Washington and Michigan fans who might hold a grudge over the 1984 bowl and poll results, who even has a reason to hate BYU? Oklahoma fans, check. MWC teams and fans, check. Who else? I hate teams that have beaten my team in NC Games and rivalry games. Other than exploiting Oklahoma's porous O-line to take down Bradford last year, who else has had a season's worth of hopes ruined by BYU?

August 20, 2010  05:05 PM ET
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Notre Dame and Miami are not the most-hated, most-cheered-against teams in College Football???? Is nothing sacred? Are the '80s already ancient history? Is Thug-U forgotten? These are not rhetorical questions: I demand a recount, a re-survey, anything!I know at least three Auburn graduates who cheered for Alabama in the 1992 National Championship against Miami, for crying out loud!

My more serious question is, apart from Washington and Michigan fans who might hold a grudge over the 1984 bowl and poll results, who even has a reason to hate BYU? Oklahoma fans, check. MWC teams and fans, check. Who else? I hate teams that have beaten my team in NC Games and rivalry games. Other than exploiting Oklahoma's porous O-line to take down Bradford last year, who else has had a season's worth of hopes ruined by BYU?

I agree. The SI article from the early 1990s does show why opponent's fans would dislike BYU, but it's hardly a national level of dislike.

August 20, 2010  05:43 PM ET
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"their basic attitude that blacks are inferior."

That is kind of hard to ignore. But didn't Ezra Taft Bunson have a talk with God about 20 years ago, and God informed Ezra that blacks were now a-okay after all? Don't the Cougars have some African-Americans on their team now?

I don't think the hatred runs too deep over BYU. I'd probably complain about not being able to get a beer in the stadium, but coffee woud suffice. Wait a minute. Coffee's off the theological table, too, isnt' it?

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August 20, 2010  07:20 PM ET
QUOTE(#13):

Notre Dame and Miami are not the most-hated, most-cheered-against teams in College Football???? Is nothing sacred? Are the '80s already ancient history? Is Thug-U forgotten? These are not rhetorical questions: I demand a recount, a re-survey, anything!I know at least three Auburn graduates who cheered for Alabama in the 1992 National Championship against Miami, for crying out loud! My more serious question is, apart from Washington and Michigan fans who might hold a grudge over the 1984 bowl and poll results, who even has a reason to hate BYU? Oklahoma fans, check. MWC teams and fans, check. Who else? I hate teams that have beaten my team in NC Games and rivalry games. Other than exploiting Oklahoma's porous O-line to take down Bradford last year, who else has had a season's worth of hopes ruined by BYU?

Agree. I always thought UM was the most hated. No more thug U but it's ingrained in many people's memory's and does'nt seem to be going away. I don't agree with alot of the stuff they did but 99% of the time they could back it up.

August 20, 2010  08:03 PM ET
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My old coach would take your head off for gloating. Since I never got into the game until we were up by 3-4 TDs (i.e., I wasn't really responsible for us winning), that was never a problem for me. We did have a couple of kids who got to run stadium steps until they puked. Everyone else pretty much got the hint at that point.

Wasn't my team gloating so no head-losing or step-running...it was the other team and....never mind

August 20, 2010  09:20 PM ET
QUOTE(#17):

Agree. I always thought UM was the most hated. No more thug U but it's ingrained in many people's memory's and does'nt seem to be going away. I don't agree with alot of the stuff they did but 99% of the time they could back it up.

I like the discipline that Randy Shannon has brought to the program at Miami, and would love to see him succeed. He seems like a man of excellent character and his players do not get into trouble with the law. (I think they've had two arrests in 4 years.) I do still have a hard time cheering for those uniforms, though.

August 24, 2010  02:51 PM ET

Mr. Mojo Risen,
You are so right, cause when I think Miami, I remember them getting off the bus in those Camo fatigues, all the drug charges and problem players they produced in the NFL..Thug Central will have to have a few more decades of squeacky clean play before I'm on board with the new look Miami. I just can't get the Thuggary of Jimmy Johnson and crew out of my head!! I know it's been two decades but damn!!

 
August 24, 2010  03:11 PM ET
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Mr. Mojo Risen,You are so right, cause when I think Miami, I remember them getting off the bus in those Camo fatigues, all the drug charges and problem players they produced in the NFL..Thug Central will have to have a few more decades of squeacky clean play before I'm on board with the new look Miami. I just can't get the Thuggary of Jimmy Johnson and crew out of my head!! I know it's been two decades but damn!!

UF was becoming hated because of a choir boy QB.

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