MMA  > General MMA  > BJ take on 10 point system
August 25, 2010, 02:35 PM
I know we spoke a lot about it. but here's BJ's take on it:

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Penn-Th e-10-9-System-Doesnt-Work-26545

B.J. Penn has focused on more than just his physical training as he heads into his rematch against UFC lightweight champion Frankie Edgar UFC 118 on Saturday at the TD Garden in Boston.

The 31-year-old Penn -- who earned 12 of his 15 wins by knockout, technical knockout or submission and has held a UFC title two times during his nine-year career -- lost a controversial unanimous decision to Edgar at UFC 112 last April in one of the year's bigger surprises. That loss made Penn change his training methods for the championship rematch on Saturday night.

"I did a lot of analyzing (following the loss to Edgar), but it wasn't analyzing the fight per se," said Penn told host Bruce Buffer on the Sherdog Radio Network???s ???It???s Time??? show on Tuesday. "It was about analyzing myself and my life. I'm going to give away one of my secrets because I'm so pumped for this fight, but I've started training a lot different than what I used to. Your mind, body and spirit are all one-third of your whole self. The physical side is one-third and that's not even half of the game. I used to put everything on the physical side and now I'm doing a lot with my mind and my spirit and now they're all equal. They're all one-third of the trinity and I believe that this is it.???

In recent weeks, Penn has exuded even more confidence during interviews.

???I believe I'm going to go on a run,??? said the decorated Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt. ???I don't want to speak too soon because I have a fight coming up Saturday, but I really think I can go out and do those things I talked about when I was a young, cocky kid a few years ago."

Along with changing up his training methods for the rematch with the 28-year-old Edgar, Penn wants to change the judging criteria for MMA and put more of an emphasis on attempts to end the fight.

"My problem with the scoring system is that you can go out and win the first round by 50 points and lose the second round by two points on a takedown or something and it's an even fight going to the third round," said Penn. "That's a joke. On another note, what good does a takedown do if I take down Demian Maia? How many points do I get if I mount on James Toney? It's just ridiculous. I don't think positions should be any points. The only things that should count as points are power punches and legitimate submission attempts. Add them up at the end of the fight and whoever has the most points or did the most damage wins. That's how it should be. That 10-9 system doesn't work."

Even with the 10-point must system in effect and judging criteria that includes striking, grappling, aggressiveness and Octagon control, many thought Penn won his first encounter with Edgar last April in Abu Dhabi. However, it was Edgar???s hand that was raised at the end of 25 minutes.

"I'm a jiu-jitsu world champion and I'm saying these things (about changes in judging criteria)," said Penn. "I don't think people should get grappling points for a takedown or mounting someone or getting their back. Who cares if I mount someone or have their back for four minutes if he gets out or I didn't do anything to him?
August 25, 2010  02:35 PM ET

???It's the Ultimate Fighting Championship, not the Ultimate Grappling Championship,??? continued Penn. ???What happens when people fight? Someone gets hurt. You have fights now where nobody gets hurt and it's like what the hell are we watching? And these coaches, because there's money involved, convince these fighters to compete this way and it's crazy. That's another reason why I'm so pumped to get in there. I just want to show everybody what a fight looks like."

Penn is one of just two fighters -- Randy Couture is the other -- to win a UFC title in two weight classes and armed with a positive attitude, he hopes to stay busy after the Edgar fight.

"I know I've contemplated retirement a lot in my career, but I want to fight every month now, if I can," said Penn. "I'll fight everyone from the No. 1 contender at 155 to the No. 10 contender at 155. If they run out of contenders at 155, I'll fight anybody in the welterweight division. If I could fight six times a year for the next three years, that would be 18 fights. God willing I can do that, then let's do that. If I can do more, let me do more."

August 25, 2010  02:39 PM ET

now, i don't like BJ, but I admire his talent.
I find it funny though that he would say a thing such as "I just want to show everybody what a fight looks like."
After all, we have this rematch EXACTLY because he didn't show up to fight that night.
Also he is one fighter that I can really say he got the goods but not the effort. Most of the time I see in his fights are either a one sided dismantling of the opponent, or else it is a fight just because he is coasting instead of wanting to fight.

We thought he was terrible against GSP, then he was awesome against the "Yes man ", and when we expected a murder, he did nothing. Less even than SIlva (versus Maia) since SIlva (at least) danced around the cage.

Now let's see what happens!

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August 25, 2010  03:06 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Its tough to do anything when the other fighter doesnt want to fight. Edgars gameplan was to dance and in the eyes of the judges that scores points. Thats why the jugging system is broken.

Bullcrap, Jim.
If BJ would get out of waiting in the middle, he would absolutely MURDER Frankie.
You know that, I know that, and the whole world knows that.

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August 25, 2010  03:08 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

People dont like people that are outspoken. Its the way society is now. Everyone is offended by everything. Its such a soft mentality to have but its encouraged by the liberal school system and the soft parents in this country. Every kid is a winner, no kid is a loser, be careful of what you say, you might offend someone. Its a disgrace and thats why I find it refreshing when someone speaks their mind. Hell, you're thinking it anyway, have the balls to say it. But people dont have balls anymore, its frowned upon to have a set and be a man nowadays.

again a load of buucrap.
I hate bj because he is not just cocky. he is obnoxious and showed very poor taste in some of his comments before fights.
he was a spoiled little bratt who couldn't shut up. and when he lost and was schooled, he cried like a little girl.

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August 25, 2010  03:09 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

I think its tough when another fighter doesnt want to fight, but I think BJ's gameplan this fight will be to cutoff the cage, and clinch with Edgar and beat him up, take him down and finish him this time. If he can catch speedy gonzalez that is.

that is what he was supposed to have done last fight.
Instead he just stood in the middle and did NOTHING.

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August 25, 2010  03:09 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

now, i don't like BJ, but I admire his talent.I find it funny though that he would say a thing such as "I just want to show everybody what a fight looks like."After all, we have this rematch EXACTLY because he didn't show up to fight that night.Also he is one fighter that I can really say he got the goods but not the effort. Most of the time I see in his fights are either a one sided dismantling of the opponent, or else it is a fight just because he is coasting instead of wanting to fight.We thought he was terrible against GSP, then he was awesome against the "Yes man ", and when we expected a murder, he did nothing. Less even than SIlva (versus Maia) since SIlva (at least) danced around the cage.Now let's see what happens!

He was awesome against Kenny Florian too, don't forget. He completely dominated and, basically, embarrassed him.
I think BJ, along with Anderson, and probably a lot of other fighters that haven't necessarily had the opportunity to show it, are a little affronted by having to defend their titles against the #6 and #8 ranked fighters at their weights. Anderson doesn't show up against #8 Leites, #5-6 Maia, or a double-digits loser in Sonnen; but when he fights someone that he deems a suitable challenger, he dismantles them. That's my impression, anyway.

August 25, 2010  03:09 PM ET
QUOTE(#10):

I'll be the first one to boo Edgar if he pulls that crap again.

dude, if he pulls a win again against BJ, BJ should just quit.

August 25, 2010  03:10 PM ET
QUOTE(#13):

He was awesome against Kenny Florian too, don't forget. He completely dominated and, basically, embarrassed him.I think BJ, along with Anderson, and probably a lot of other fighters that haven't necessarily had the opportunity to show it, are a little affronted by having to defend their titles against the #6 and #8 ranked fighters at their weights. Anderson doesn't show up against #8 Leites, #5-6 Maia, or a double-digits loser in Sonnen; but when he fights someone that he deems a suitable challenger, he dismantles them. That's my impression, anyway.

same here.

August 25, 2010  03:14 PM ET
QUOTE(#12):

For example?

there are 2 examples that comes to mind.
The first one was a fighter who had some accusation of steroids, and even though he was cleared 9or not convicted, I don't recall), BJ put on all pre-fights intervies that theo other guy was steroid user, and a lot of other BS.

Same thing against another fighter who passed personal problems (don't recall what) and BJ just abused the subject.
I remember that i though this of very poor taste.

And It seems funny to me that people don't like Mir and take his comments out of context, but then are fans of BJ when the dude (when asked if he was not lacking taste for touching personal subjects before the fight) he said in all words that he will say and use whatever he feels like to get the edge over the other guy.
That stroke me as lowblow, and since I didn't like him 9as a person), even though I am the first to defend against anyone who put him down after his loss to Frankie.

August 25, 2010  03:15 PM ET
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Its tough to do anything when the other fighter doesnt want to fight. Edgars gameplan was to dance and in the eyes of the judges that scores points. Thats why the jugging system is broken.

i have to disagree frank was moving in and out shot for takedowns and played it safe to a certain degree(did not follow him to the ground or bully him around)
but that has what BJ has been doing since GSP wrecked him -waiting for the challenger to come to him he is a better fighter than all of them yet only when he finally connected with kenny florian did he go to the ground same thing with deigo , even sean sherk he did not attack untill he had him hurt. he never showed up to fight or to push the fight he showed up to counter and frank beat him at his own game
his corner knew in the fourth break and told him to shoot and finish frank he didn't even try
he deserved to lose that fight

if he comes out swinging and earns my respect he will get it but if he does what he has been doing he will never get it

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August 25, 2010  03:19 PM ET
QUOTE(#16):

there are 2 examples that comes to mind.The first one was a fighter who had some accusation of steroids, and even though he was cleared 9or not convicted, I don't recall), BJ put on all pre-fights intervies that theo other guy was steroid user, and a lot of other BS.

You're not talking about Sean Sherk here, are you? Because yeah, I heard they recently found a trace of blood in his Stanozolol stream.

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