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LMAO.... im all effed up
that's the only way to be ;)
Man I can't wait to retire, i'm only 21, but it sure does sound nice!
TLTR (too long to read) but quick scan says good words overall. Blind faith fans are delerious.
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I think it really depends on who you speak to. Some fans(fanatics) just like to start trouble because of their zeal. I admit that Peyton is a quality quarterback. His body of work is impressive. And he will hold all the really important passing records when his career is over. Touchdowns, completions, attempts, and maybe MVPs. Brady on the other hand has had success like none other in the playoffs to start with. And on three separate occasions he has driven his team for the game winning or leading score. The exception being Super Bowl XLII. So they both have their value. I would take Brady not just because I'm a Pats fan but because of his courage under fire. But that is just me.
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I think it really depends on who you speak to. Some fans(fanatics) just like to start trouble because of their zeal. I admit that Peyton is a quality quarterback. His body of work is impressive. And he will hold all the really important passing records when his career is over. Touchdowns, completions, attempts, and maybe MVPs. Brady on the other hand has had success like none other in the playoffs to start with. And on three separate occasions he has driven his team for the game winning or leading score. The exception being Super Bowl XLII. So they both have their value. I would take Brady not just because I'm a Pats fan but because of his courage under fire. But that is just me.
I'd probably pick Brady if I were putting together a team simply because Brady has shown that he can win without a whole lot of talent around him if he has to. I'm not saying that Peyton couldn't, but since the Colts have always made sure they invested a whole lot of high draft picks to surround him with quality skill players, we can't really be sure of that. At the end of the day, it's pretty much a flip of the coin. Manning will end up with more individual records (although he won't be getting back that single season TD record that Brady took), but Brady will easily end up with more championships.
Factors that a QB has no control over, namely the performance of defense and special teams, as well as the running game, (not to mention coaching and play calls) can have a significant impact on how difficult a Quarterback's job actually is.
I don't believe that the Indianapolis Colts as a team and the New England Patriots as a team have been 100% equal throughout this rivalry. So as much as everyone's loves to make the comparison both statistically and via ring-count, I don't believe you can ever truly expect two seemingly equal players to put up equal numbers.
IMO, throughout the majority of their careers Peyton Manning has had the better wide receivers and receiving tight ends (helps the stat column) and Tom Brady has had the better defense, coaching, and clutch field goal kicking (helps win games).
I find it interesting that the 2007 Patriots, Tom Brady's most impressive statistical season, are the lone Brady-led Patriot team to lose a Super Bowl. The more you rely on your QB, the more difficult you make his job.
Why is that people use 3500 words to make a simple point that could be expressed in 25?
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Why is that people use 3500 words to make a simple point that could be expressed in 25?
Diarrhea of the word processor?
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Agreed. Brady didn't make those kicks.
Tom Brady gets this:
Peyton Manning gets this:
I'm not trying to discredit Tom Brady. I think he's a great QB. It's just not a fair comparison.
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I'm not trying to discredit Tom Brady. I think he's a great QB. It's just not a fair comparison.
Comparisons are odious.
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Factors that a QB has no control over, namely the performance of defense and special teams, as well as the running game, (not to mention coaching and play calls) can have a significant impact on how difficult a Quarterback's job actually is.I don't believe that the Indianapolis Colts as a team and the New England Patriots as a team have been 100% equal throughout this rivalry. So as much as everyone's loves to make the comparison both statistically and via ring-count, I don't believe you can ever truly expect two seemingly equal players to put up equal numbers.IMO, throughout the majority of their careers Peyton Manning has had the better wide receivers and receiving tight ends (helps the stat column) and Tom Brady has had the better defense, coaching, and clutch field goal kicking (helps win games).
Great points. It is a team game. It also has fallen to Brady during the big game to come up with a few plays. And in every Super Bowl he has played in he has. Only 1 int in Super Bowl competition. We won't discuss Peyton in that way because we know how his last game ended. But you are correct in the teams being built differently. And the outcomes being different.
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Great points. It is a team game. It also has fallen to Brady during the big game to come up with a few plays. And in every Super Bowl he has played in he has. Only 1 int in Super Bowl competition. We won't discuss Peyton in that way because we know how his last game ended. But you are correct in the teams being built differently. And the outcomes being different.
Very true.
I think one of the most undermentioned stats is INT%. Tom Brady's 2.3% career interception percentage is currently tied for 5th best all-time. Just the simple act of not turning the ball over helps put/keep your team in position to succeed.
For comparison purposes:
#13 Joe Montana - 2.6%
#13 Drew Brees - 2.6%
#24 Peyton Manning - 2.8%
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How so? How would we know who the greats are but for comparisons?
Because each individual is different. Each person has their own set of skills. You cannot compare guys who play in different styles really. Its not fair to the guys who play the games.
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Peyton Manning has better receivers and running backs...haha whatever Peyton Manning makes people better, he pulls people from the practice squad and MAKES them look good, Tom Brady has people like Randy Moss who can come down with any ball he is thrown!! Peyton throws the ball dead on, Brady tosses it and Moss grabs it like a good receivers should...nice illustration about the field goals as well.. You know what else makes Manning better, the fact that he doesn't have a real head coach, HE IS THE COACH, Brady ha Belichik...Manning has himself, during the off-season he is watching film and thinking up plays!! He is a PHENOM..Brady is a great quarterback, but 4 MVP trophys show who is the best...RINGS are a team effort, MVP is one guy.. 2 of Brady's superbowls were won BY THE KICKER...not him...
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