NCAAF  > General NCAAF  > what should chris raineys punishment be?
September 15, 2010, 01:04 AM
being charged with "felony stalking" what do you all think his punishment should be (football team)?

im going with a minimum 3 games suspension
September 15, 2010  01:13 AM ET

Stalking? I heard about that this morning on the radio from Colin Cowherd. So strange.

Anyways, I think 3 games is about right. I don't know if I'd call that the "minimum", but it definetly warrants a suspension given that it is a felony.

Also, if interested, here is my Pac-10 and the next best 3 blog:

http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/733565

September 15, 2010  01:30 AM ET

what exactly is Urban talking about here:

"Meyer vowed last month not to let Rainey speak to the media again."

"It's our fault for letting him speak once a year," Meyer said then. "I can name some other things he said to the media, too, that is absolutely inappropriate. So take [what he says] for nothing. Absolutely wrong. Inappropriate, wrong, non-thought-out, which he does quite often.

"And I love Chris Rainey. When I ask him a question, I give him a whole day to think about it and write it down 100 times," he said.

September 15, 2010  01:32 AM ET

I heard that this (the accusation) could be a 3rd degree felony. Of course everything is speculation at this point.
According to OC Addazio, "Rainey is not a part of our team right now."

I would say keep him off the team until the legal issues are resolved. If he's proved innocent, reinstate him. If he's guilty, wish him the best of luck and send him on his way.

September 15, 2010  01:32 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

what exactly is Urban talking about here:"Meyer vowed last month not to let Rainey speak to the media again.""It's our fault for letting him speak once a year," Meyer said then. "I can name some other things he said to the media, too, that is absolutely inappropriate. So take [what he says] for nothing. Absolutely wrong. Inappropriate, wrong, non-thought-out, which he does quite often."And I love Chris Rainey. When I ask him a question, I give him a whole day to think about it and write it down 100 times," he said.

I'd be kind of offended if I were Rainey. But your right, that's pretty confusing.

September 15, 2010  01:34 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Anyways, I think 3 games is about right. I don't know if I'd call that the "minimum", but it definetly warrants a suspension given that it is a felony.

well, i can assure you if anyone on the canes gets charged with a felony they will be kicked off the team, no questions asked..

~30-40 arrests under meyers regieme is absurd, dude needs to get with it and put the hammer down..

"the top 1% of 1%"

September 15, 2010  02:27 AM ET

Who's 'Cwis Wainey'?

September 15, 2010  04:00 AM ET

To me the bigger question is whether law-breaking student-athletes should answer to the school or a more centralized authority (NCAA). The NFL Commissioner centralizes the penalties for violations so punishment is standardized from team to team. Not so in CFB where penalties are left to the schools.

A one-game suspension at one school could bring expulsion from the team for the same violation at another school. Another plus for taking it out of the school's hands is the deterrent of knowing discipline will be more public, and issued by a less familiar and therefore less sympathetic authority.

On the other hand, passing the discipline for violations of law on to the NCAA is kinda like putting Congress in charge of private business. They can't seem to handle the stuff on their plate now, let alone taking on new responsibilities.

Another question is whether a player who's been charged but not yet convicted or plead guilty should be suspended or left alone: The innocent until proven guilty thing.

All I know is I've had too much Shiraz to figure it out tonight.

September 15, 2010  06:28 AM ET

I am very much for letting the punishment fit the crime, but unfortunately our legal system doesn't do much better at that than our NCAA football teams do.

I think Meyer is saying Rainey talks and texts without showing a trace of thought beforehand.

At this point I know next to nothing about the charges..only heard a brief report on radio.

September 15, 2010  07:58 AM ET

Loss. Of. Institutional. Control.

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September 15, 2010  08:34 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

I am very much for letting the punishment fit the crime, but unfortunately our legal system doesn't do much better at that than our NCAA football teams do. I think Meyer is saying Rainey talks and texts without showing a trace of thought beforehand.At this point I know next to nothing about the charges..only heard a brief report on radio.

It was the top story on the local news last night. I think Rainey is stupid for being in the situation. He clearly aggravated the situation and made threats after the cops were called. I do feel sorry that the victim has to go through all of this because Rainey cannot control his anger.

http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20100914/ARTICLES/100919719/1136?p =2&tc=pg

The victim was in court Tuesday morning with her mother and sister. The woman told Ferrero she does not fear Rainey but does fear the attention the case has drawn from the news media.

"People all over the country have been calling my cell phone," the woman said. "I'm not afraid of him. I'm more afraid of all the repercussions."

She also told Ferrero she had not intended for Rainey to be arrested but wanted police to do something else instead.

"We just needed someone to diffuse the situation," the woman said. "I did not want to have him arrested last night."

In addition to repeating that she never feared for her safety, the woman told Ferrero, "This is blowing up way more than it actually should. There are a lot of things going on in his life right now."

September 15, 2010  08:37 AM ET
QUOTE(#9):

Loss. Of. Institutional. Control.

Good luck with that. I am talking to and about the institutions is question. Trying to control any persons mouth or textings as the case may be. Perhaps athletic dorms with a 7:00PM curfew, and no girlfriends allowed..period...while under scholarship. Maybe that would work, but again, good luck with that.

I don't even think institutional control is in question here, only the character of the former recruit and current player and whether he should have been seen as a danger to society when he was recruited.

September 15, 2010  08:38 AM ET

'in question'...

September 15, 2010  08:57 AM ET
QUOTE(#12):

Good luck with that. I am talking to and about the institutions is question. Trying to control any persons mouth or textings as the case may be. Perhaps athletic dorms with a 7:00PM curfew, and no girlfriends allowed..period...while under scholarship. Maybe that would work, but again, good luck with that. I don't even think institutional control is in question here, only the character of the former recruit and current player and whether he should have been seen as a danger to society when he was recruited.

All I am saying that if one school can have one athlete get money on the side without the coaches knowing about it and get kicked in the crotch for two years due to a "lack of instutional control" then how exactly can a program with 30+ arrests over 4 years be said to have said control? You would think that after the 20th or so arrest some sort of change in policy/athlete management practice would be implimented....

September 15, 2010  09:03 AM ET
QUOTE(#14):

All I am saying that if one school can have one athlete get money on the side without the coaches knowing about it and get kicked in the crotch for two years due to a "lack of instutional control" then how exactly can a program with 30+ arrests over 4 years be said to have said control? You would think that after the 20th or so arrest some sort of change in policy/athlete management practice would be implimented....

When it was 28 arrests this was discussed ad nauseum.

I understand why a USC supporter may be bitter. I have stayed out of the any discussion about USC, their offenses, and their punishments. It is so hard just following the media reports to really know the inside story about anything.

September 15, 2010  09:25 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

...... I would say keep him off the team until the legal issues are resolved. If he's proved innocent, reinstate him. If he's guilty, wish him the best of luck and send him on his way.

Agree! Don't care if you are a football player or a bum on the street, there should be no special circumstances for certain people. Break the law, pay the price.

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September 15, 2010  10:38 AM ET

IMA say he should have to share a locker with Ines Sainz.

September 15, 2010  12:02 PM ET
QUOTE(#11):

"People all over the country have been calling my cell phone," the woman said. "I'm not afraid of him. I'm more afraid of all the repercussions."

Translation: "If the Gators lose a game while Rainey is suspended, someone might firebomb my house"

 
September 15, 2010  12:07 PM ET
QUOTE(#18):

IMA say he should have to share a locker with Ines Sainz.

I just started texting my ex-wife in hopes of receiving a similar punishment.

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