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it is funny how they try to sound like Cro Cop is the favorite...

Mir probably had someone hurt him just so me wouldn't lose to Cro Cop.

I don't think those are excuses. If he comes with a black eye, how is it an excuse? Do you think he paid for someone to punch him right before he flies to US? Come on, now Jim!

Alright guys, before you jump the gun, realize that there are excuses and then there are reasons.

I have fought hurt, and I can tell you that it makes an absolutely giant difference in how you perform. I know, Goldie and Rogan will remind you that "no one in this sport ever fights at 100%, not as hard as they train."

So yes, if Cro Cop loses this fight, he will have TONS of reasons why he didn't perform at 100%. They will be real, and they will be relevent to his performance. To me, the difference is how the fighter handles it.

If he says "Yeah, I trained hard and I got tagged in the eye in sparring. I came out here and gave 100% of what I had, but it really affected me in the fight."

If he says,"Ahh, its garbage! I came in here and fought but I was hurt, and that is why I lost. I could beat his ass if I wasn't hurt, I am still better than you. This doesn't prove anything."

Cro Cop has always been one for the former, not the latter. Tito, he is more inclined to the latter.

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Originally posted 02:05 PM ET  09.20 by Clouis_39

Alright guys, before you jump the gun, realize that there are excuses and then there are reasons.I have fought hurt, and I can tell you that it makes an absolutely giant difference in how you perform. I know, Goldie and Rogan will remind you that "no one in this sport ever fights at 100%, not as hard as they train."So yes, if Cro Cop loses this fight, he will have TONS of reasons why he didn't perform at 100%. They will be real, and they will be relevent to his performance. To me, the difference is how the fighter handles it.If he says "Yeah, I trained hard and I got tagged in the eye in sparring. I came out here and gave 100% of what I had, but it really affected me in the fight."If he says,"Ahh, its garbage! I came in here and fought but I was hurt, and that is why I lost. I could beat his ass if I wasn't hurt, I am still better than you. This doesn't prove anything."Cro Cop has always been one for the former, not the latter. Tito, he is more inclined to the latter.

I completely agree with you on that.

Cro Cop always been a class act. I don't think this changing.

I want to see what excise will Jim say if Cro Cop KTFO's Mir on the first round....

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Originally posted 03:35 PM ET  09.20 by Roni

I want to see what excise will Jim say if Cro Cop KTFO's Mir on the first round....

I agree.

I still think despite age and size, this is a terrific stylistic matchup Mirko.

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Originally posted 03:47 PM ET  09.20 by JimJ77 Can't make it up

Roni, you know my thoughts on Mir, so my opinion is not biased. Can Cro Cop win? Sure. Will he? Thats another question. I just don't think he will. Mir has better standup than most give him credit for, and the size difference will be a big factor. Mir will have 30 lbs on Cro Cop. I see Mir overwhelming him, getting him down and finishing the fight.

Jim, that is what I can't see.
Mir does not have good takedowns, and Cro Cop has fantastic TDD. So how will Mir do it?
I disagree people don't give Mir credit for his standup. if anything that was all we spoke after his Nog fight and the Kongo.
The problem with Mir is that he can't take a punch, so i don't see him charging against one of the best strikers in the game.

Yes, Mirko might have lost a step or two, but he is still the superior striker between the two.

If I had to bet, I would bet on Mir, but If I had to analyze this fight, I don't see how you can claim this is all but lost for Cro Cop.

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Originally posted 04:50 PM ET  09.20 by Roni

Jim, that is what I can't see.Mir does not have good takedowns, and Cro Cop has fantastic TDD. So how will Mir do it?I disagree people don't give Mir credit for his standup. if anything that was all we spoke after his Nog fight and the Kongo.The problem with Mir is that he can't take a punch, so i don't see him charging against one of the best strikers in the game.Yes, Mirko might have lost a step or two, but he is still the superior striker between the two.If I had to bet, I would bet on Mir, but If I had to analyze this fight, I don't see how you can claim this is all but lost for Cro Cop.

Remember Mir doesn't have to take Cro Cop down to win a decision. He can just push him against the cage and hold him there. And by holding him against the cage it will negate Cro Cops kicks.

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Originally posted 05:23 PM ET  09.20 by El Diablo

Fair enough... As long as you remember that after Mir loses I want to hear lots of excuses. One of those had better be that Mir was overwhelmed by the fact that Mirko is such a better actor than Arnold.

ROFLMAO!!!!