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This is a post I posted over a year ago, pretty much spells out the last 40 plus years.

1966 thry 1985 one the best teams ever, the numbers are staggering, but that was 23 years ago.

Last 23
11 Losing seasons
8 seasons with more than 10 losses, current streak of 6 (*11 loss Seasons) League record
5 (8-8) seasons
2 (9-7) seasons
*(Detroit Lions have 2 more wins in the last 6 seasons)

That is 16 out of 23 seasons they failed to win more than they lost. Add (2) mediocre 9-7 years and that is 18 out of 23 they were lame to say the least.

No playoffs in those 18 seasons.

5 seasons with 10 win or more (5 good seasons in 23 that's about 1 good season for every 5 bad seasons).

Playoff Games last 23 Years; 12, that's right 12 which is more than a few teams

Playoff Wins: 6
Playoff Losses: 6

3- AFC Championship games (in 2 they only managed a field goal, you spend the entire season trying to get to this game and all you put up is a field goal)

Lost to Buffalo 51-3*
Lost to Baltimore 16-3 in Oakland
Won against Tenn. 41-21

*Howie Long later said he knew they lost the day before the game because of the cold weather.

The only Superbowl they were they were losing by 31 points in the 3rd quarter, eventally losing by 28.

When Al Davis says they will get back to winning ways, he can't possibly think the last 23 years were winning.

Nice trip down memory lane. Been there all those years, done all that. What you also have to understand is that managing a franchise is a younger man's chore; no one can run it alone and certainly not someone Al's age. When we did have success we had a competent GM - it's sorely missing now.

I do feel for the younger fans who never had a chance to see/experience the Raiders of old because those characters were a wonder to behold.

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Originally posted 01:45 PM ET  10.04 by Hammered_in_Soup

This is a post I posted over a year ago, pretty much spells out the last 40 plus years.1966 thry 1985 one the best teams ever, the numbers are staggering, but that was 23 years ago.Last 23 11 Losing seasons8 seasons with more than 10 losses, current streak of 6 (*11 loss Seasons) League record5 (8-8) seasons 2 (9-7) seasons*(Detroit Lions have 2 more wins in the last 6 seasons)That is 16 out of 23 seasons they failed to win more than they lost. Add (2) mediocre 9-7 years and that is 18 out of 23 they were lame to say the least.No playoffs in those 18 seasons.5 seasons with 10 win or more (5 good seasons in 23 that's about 1 good season for every 5 bad seasons).Playoff Games last 23 Years; 12, that's right 12 which is more than a few teamsPlayoff Wins: 6Playoff Losses: 63- AFC Championship games (in 2 they only managed a field goal, you spend the entire season trying to get to this game and all you put up is a field goal)Lost to Buffalo 51-3*Lost to Baltimore 16-3 in OaklandWon against Tenn. 41-21*Howie Long later said he knew they lost the day before the game because of the cold weather.The only Superbowl they were they were losing by 31 points in the 3rd quarter, eventally losing by 28.When Al Davis says they will get back to winning ways, he can't possibly think the last 23 years were winning.

But why has he lost his ability to judge talent? Bey is an awful receiver? Wasn't Crabtree there? Crabtree is struggling a bit now too but he was a better talent in college then Bey? A guy who is a brilliant football guy struggling like this? This man coached for three years? Hes probably one of the smartest football guys around? Shocking. McClain looks like a player but Russell was awful. Lets hope he gets it together. I feel for the guy. Hes got it in him.

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Originally posted 01:52 PM ET  10.04 by Al B Bach

Nice trip down memory lane. Been there all those years, done all that. What you also have to understand is that managing a franchise is a younger man's chore; no one can run it alone and certainly not someone Al's age. When we did have success we had a competent GM - it's sorely missing now.I do feel for the younger fans who never had a chance to see/experience the Raiders of old because those characters were a wonder to behold.

Yeah the days of the Snake, Kick'em, Branch, Biletnikoff, LaMonica, Upshaw, Otto, Old man Willie Brown, van Eeghen, Banaszak, Villapiano, Plunkett, Allen, Alzado (once a Bronco but will allows be remembered as a Raider) Lester the Molester I could go on and on.
The down fall started with Marc Wilson, Gruden stopped the slide but 'go long' Al would have none of the dink and dunk stuff.

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Originally posted 01:52 PM ET  10.04 by Al B Bach

Nice trip down memory lane. Been there all those years, done all that. What you also have to understand is that managing a franchise is a younger man's chore; no one can run it alone and certainly not someone Al's age. When we did have success we had a competent GM - it's sorely missing now.I do feel for the younger fans who never had a chance to see/experience the Raiders of old because those characters were a wonder to behold.

Buddy! you remember the games! The 70s those cold winter weekends with the Raiders, Vikings, Steelers, Rams and the Dolphins there every year? Epic games! The Raiders with the Stabler td pass against the Dolphins with defenders climbing him, the " Immaculant Reception" by the Steelers, the Hail Mary, the td when Casper kept pushing the ball forward to finally recover it for a td? That causing a rule change? Those were the days! So many great games! lol
Yea Davis needs to get someone to help him. Obviously he doesn't have a son? Luckily Jerry Jones has a couple to help him. Gotta feel for the guy.

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Originally posted 02:15 PM ET  10.04 by Americas' Team Fan

But why has he lost his ability to judge talent? Bey is an awful receiver? Wasn't Crabtree there? Crabtree is struggling a bit now too but he was a better talent in college then Bey? A guy who is a brilliant football guy struggling like this? This man coached for three years? Hes probably one of the smartest football guys around? Shocking. McClain looks like a player but Russell was awful. Lets hope he gets it together. I feel for the guy. Hes got it in him.

People started calling him a "football genius" back in 1985 after they won 3 SB's in 7 years. It went to his head and he became an egotistical tyrant and still is to this day, everyone in the organization does not argue anything or they are unemployed.

He got into that spat with Kiffen and stuck by JaMarcus and no one had the kahoonies to tell him he that JaMarcus stunk, Kiffen did not want to draft him.
The players are just there for a paycheck, until they retire him the franchise is doomed.

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The Evil Empire has become the Feeble Empire just like their geriatric owner.

Yea but through the hate this guy deserves the utmost respect. Hes a guy I'd love to sit down with and hear some stories about his Raiders in their great years. I'd be in paradise.

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Originally posted 02:24 PM ET  10.04 by Hammered_in_Soup

People started calling him a "football genius" back in 1985 after they won 3 SB's in 7 years. It went to his head and he became an egotistical tyrant and still is to this day, everyone in the organization does not argue anything or they are unemployed.He got into that spat with Kiffen and stuck by JaMarcus and no one had the kahoonies to tell him he that JaMarcus stunk, Kiffen did not want to draft him.The players are just there for a paycheck, until they retire him the franchise is doomed.

Wow sorry to hear you say that. I'd lean towards what another poster said, hes gotten older. Many Cowboys fans dislike Jones but I can't forget the three rings. I certainly don't compare Jones to Davis in terms of winning seasons but he plays a owner/gm role as well. Maybe a spell like the Raiders and I will change my mind. Davis seems to have sputtered since his "Just Win Baby" statement after the 83 SB win? Wonder if that just put a bigger target on his back showing arrogance.

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Originally posted 02:23 PM ET  10.04 by Americas' Team Fan

Buddy! you remember the games! The 70s those cold winter weekends with the Raiders, Vikings, Steelers, Rams and the Dolphins there every year? Epic games! The Raiders with the Stabler td pass against the Dolphins with defenders climbing him, the " Immaculant Reception" by the Steelers, the Hail Mary, the td when Casper kept pushing the ball forward to finally recover it for a td? That causing a rule change? Those were the days! So many great games! lol Yea Davis needs to get someone to help him. Obviously he doesn't have a son? Luckily Jerry Jones has a couple to help him. Gotta feel for the guy.

Yeah like a said, nice trip down memory lane (not named kiffin). Tons of great games, players on both sides of the balls - Old Man Willie is why I wear #24. Al's son Mark Davis doesn't have any football related interest that's been made public; I can't remember the last time I saw a picture of the guy.

Someone asked me the other day who would take over when Al passes, my response was: Al Davis is protected from up high by the Dark Lord himself but should he get the call to come home, the paperwork left behind is SO convoluted the organization could be in court for 20 yrs sorting it all out. Probably the way Al would want it to be.

I miss the old Raiders. They were such a rough, smash mouth football team. I love the fans and the black hole and I love the tradition and I wish they would get back to that.

Raider fans haven't forgotten. We've just come to the conclusion that Davis needs to release the reigns and get a qualified GM with knowledge of today's NFL. The power is shifting, but it's a little slow for some fans. It's been a loooong 7 years already.

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Originally posted 02:36 PM ET  10.04 by Al B Bach

Someone asked me the other day who would take over when Al passes, my response was: Al Davis is protected from up high by the Dark Lord himself but should he get the call to come home, the paperwork left behind is SO convoluted the organization could be in court for 20 yrs sorting it all out. Probably the way Al would want it to be.

Oh. My. God.

Please don't let that happen.

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Originally posted 04:00 PM ET  10.04 by Pittfan14

I miss the old Raiders. They were such a rough, smash mouth football team. I love the fans and the black hole and I love the tradition and I wish they would get back to that.

I don't believe the crazy outfits were around in the great years. They are a bit much. lol How about shelving the leather iron and let them start kicking butt on the field again? Yea thats it!

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Originally posted 04:02 PM ET  10.04 by LoveItHateIt

Oh. My. God. Please don't let that happen.

LoveIt, it's going to happen. Get your "big-boys" drink ready 'cause it is what it is'. Sad to say but that's where we are.

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Originally posted 07:34 PM ET  10.04 by Americas' Team Fan

I don't believe the crazy outfits were around in the great years. They are a bit much. lol How about shelving the leather iron and let them start kicking butt on the field again? Yeah thats it!

Well the outfits weren't there like today but the CRAZY GREAT chicks....Oh buddy. Just let me make the plane before the warrants made it out. 8~)

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Originally posted 09:30 PM ET  10.04 by Al B Bach

LoveIt, it's going to happen. Get your "big-boys" drink ready 'cause it is what it is'. Sad to say but that's where we are.

Well crap. I already take a liking to scotch. What's the big boy uppance from there?!? Ugh.

That is all true. I am old enough to know the history of the RAIDERS and their glory years. Believe me they were great. My question is this. Is firing Tom Cable or as I learned tonight the releasing, basically, of 21 the answer? NO it is not.

I am a long time RAIDERS fan. Believe me I have seen and endured a lot over the past few years. All those losing seasons, god that hurts. Just when I thought we were headed in the right direction, the road to glory, here goes Al again. Firing Tom Cable. Now I hear he voided the contract of in my opinion the best CB in the league, Number 21. Just when we start to turn things around he tears them apart.









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