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soo right. GG does bad in important fights, but he is goinf to MANHANDLE BS.

Takedown, mount, kimura

QUOTE(#2):

Originally posted 12:57 PM ET  10.05 by Hyped78

Takedown, mount, kimura

Kimura? From mount??

Do you mean American/Keylock?

QUOTE(#1):

Originally posted 12:19 PM ET  10.05 by mlanzo

soo right. GG does bad in important fights, but he is goinf to MANHANDLE BS.

When I saw the match up I was thinking it too early for BS to fight a guy like GG, GG has been around the block and knows he has to win this next fight or it may be his last in the ufc. GG will bring is A game, not to sure about Brendon.

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Originally posted 01:40 PM ET  10.05 by Clouis_39

Kimura? From mount??Do you mean American/Keylock?

I usually call it a "kimura", even if in MMA in the USA everyone calls it an "americana".

But we're talking about the same thing, basically.

would love to see gg do to bs what he did to cro cop..lol.

QUOTE(#5):

Originally posted 03:34 PM ET  10.05 by Hyped78

I usually call it a "kimura", even if in MMA in the USA everyone calls it an "americana".

got an answer for everything huh hyped...lol

QUOTE(#9):

Originally posted 08:36 AM ET  10.06 by mlanzo

got an answer for everything huh hyped...lol

That's me :)

QUOTE(#5):

Originally posted 03:34 PM ET  10.05 by Hyped78

I usually call it a "kimura", even if in MMA in the USA everyone calls it an "americana".

does it make a difference on what you call it based on which direction you press the arm?

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Originally posted 09:37 AM ET  10.06 by tdbubba15

does it make a difference on what you call it based on which direction you press the arm?

Yes.

The "Keylock" or "Americana" is a traditional Ude Garame in Judo and Jiu-Jitsu.

A "Kimura" is a reverse Ude Garame.

A kimura is like a hammerlock variation: you put the opponents hand on their back and then try to touch their hand to their own head.

With a Keylock you hold the shoulder near the head and drive the hand toward their hip.

For instance, Heath Herring submitted Sobalev Dennis with a keylock, Sakuraba subbed Royle Gracie with a kimura.

I knew the techniques but always got the 2 mixed up somehow based on the TV camera angles of just taking Mike Goldbergs word for it. Stupid me!

Like Clouis explained, both are different.

I personally always call it a kimura, be it from the mount, side control, half-guard or full guard.

I see Schaub winning

I think Schaub is in big trouble. Gonzaga is a huge step up in competition. That being said, I don't mind the jump up in competition. I like seeing big prospects (which I think Schaub is) facing tough gatekeepers to see how far there game has developed.