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October 15, 2010, 02:37 AM
USC Athletic Director Pat Hayden suggested today that the AD's had agreed to a north-south split for the conference. North: Washington schools, Oregon schools, Stanford and Cal. South: USC, UCLA, Arizona schools, Utah, Colorado. My opinion: bad. Anything that separates the 4 California schools is a non-starter. Opinions?
October 15, 2010  02:40 AM ET

LA is the biggest recruiting area for the entire conference. Not playing in LA every other year is going to hurt the northern schools immensely.

October 15, 2010  08:20 AM ET

Not 100% sure there. LA is great, but the Bay Area, Sacramento, and Central CAL are also great areas to recruit.

As to the split, if you keep the 4 CAL schools together the geographic split doesn't make as much sense. Not a real big issue, but its hard to see a north-south or east-west with all 4 CAL schools in one division.

October 15, 2010  08:20 AM ET

Oh, forgot to mention the solution. Go ACC with it. Put CAL and USC in one division and Stanford and UCLA in the other....

October 15, 2010  09:44 AM ET

Listening to Rome on the radio, he makes it sound like NoCal and SoCal are two separate countries.

October 15, 2010  12:23 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Listening to Rome on the radio, he makes it sound like NoCal and SoCal are two separate countries.

Culturally, they are. And the Central Valley is a separate country from the other two.

October 15, 2010  12:38 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Listening to Rome on the radio, he makes it sound like NoCal and SoCal are two separate countries.

Rome must be from NorCal, because that's the way they prefer it. There have been several attempts in the north to split the state in two so they could cut off the south's water supply. What the dummies fail to understand is that if the people in the south have no water, they'll migrate north to live.

I agree with Armpit. My conference alignment would separate the two teams from each geographical section into opposite divisions. Every year each team would play the 5 teams in its division, plus its sectional rival, plus two others from the other division on a rotational basis. Example-
A- USC/Stan/Wash/OrSt/Zona/Utah
B- UCLA/Cal/Wazoo/Ore/ASU/Colo
By splitting existing rivalries into separate divisions, they still play each other, but compete in different divisions.

October 15, 2010  12:45 PM ET

You can't stop the inevitable ... just split it along the San Andreas fault line ...

October 15, 2010  12:50 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

Rome must be from NorCal, because that's the way they prefer it. There have been several attempts in the north to split the state in two so they could cut off the south's water supply. What the dummies fail to understand is that if the people in the south have no water, they'll migrate north to live. I agree with Armpit. My conference alignment would separate the two teams from each geographical section into opposite divisions. Every year each team would play the 5 teams in its division, plus its sectional rival, plus two others from the other division on a rotational basis. Example-A- USC/Stan/Wash/OrSt/Zona/Utah B- UCLA/Cal/Wazoo/Ore/ASU/Colo By splitting existing rivalries into separate divisions, they still play each other, but compete in different divisions.

+1.

And not to throw a monkey wrench or anything, and I know football is all that REALLY matters, but how does that split you have suggested look when talking hoops, baseball, etc?

October 15, 2010  01:26 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

You can't stop the inevitable ... just split it along the San Andreas fault line ...

LOL! The New Coastal Division and the Atlantis Division.

October 15, 2010  02:20 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

+1. And not to throw a monkey wrench or anything, and I know football is all that REALLY matters, but how does that split you have suggested look when talking hoops, baseball, etc?

Hey, GR, how's it hangin'?

From what little I know of the other sports, the rivalries are about the same. In hoops, UCLA, Stanford and Zona are more often on the same level, but USC is still UCLA's rivalry game.

October 15, 2010  04:19 PM ET
QUOTE(#10):

Hey, GR, how's it hangin'? From what little I know of the other sports, the rivalries are about the same. In hoops, UCLA, Stanford and Zona are more often on the same level, but USC is still UCLA's rivalry game.

Agree here. ASU will always consider Arizona as the primary rival and vice versa, regardless of sport. Pretty sure UW/WSO and OrSU/OU are the same.

October 15, 2010  04:47 PM ET
QUOTE(#11):

Agree here. ASU will always consider Arizona as the primary rival and vice versa, regardless of sport. Pretty sure UW/WSO and OrSU/OU are the same.

Yup, just as Stanford and Cal are major rivals. That's the thing about the Pac-10 that I'm going to miss the most. The natural rivalries. Utah and Colorado aren't bringing the same animosity for each other with them.

There are other rivalries too of course. Almost everyone hates USC to some degree and consider them a rival. And UW - UO is downright nasty on all levels.

October 15, 2010  04:56 PM ET
QUOTE(#12):

Utah and Colorado aren't bringing the same animosity for each other with them.

True, but wait about 5 years.

October 15, 2010  06:06 PM ET
QUOTE(#13):

True, but wait about 5 years.

Perhaps. Not sure Colorado ever really had a big rival. CSU and Colorado have rarely been good at the same time and the major players in the B12 have other bigger rivalries.

Utah will always hate BYU more than any other school, but CU could be a decent conference rivalry.

October 15, 2010  06:36 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

Perhaps. Not sure Colorado ever really had a big rival. CSU and Colorado have rarely been good at the same time and the major players in the B12 have other bigger rivalries.Utah will always hate BYU more than any other school, but CU could be a decent conference rivalry.

I actually expect Utah to revive their old WAC rivalry with the Arizona schools. Colorado is going to be something of an outlier. But who knows? There's enough Colorado alumni in California to work up something. Apparently this year's game at Cal had a lot of Colorado fans in Berkeley.

October 15, 2010  06:43 PM ET
QUOTE(#15):

Apparently this year's game at Cal had a lot of Colorado fans in Berkeley.

Lots of bad blood too. Buffs fans throwing their Birkenstocks, Cal fans refusing to share their medicinal weed, and many an overturned Prius in the parking lot.

October 15, 2010  06:54 PM ET
QUOTE(#16):

Lots of bad blood too. Buffs fans throwing their Birkenstocks, Cal fans refusing to share their medicinal weed, and many an overturned Prius in the parking lot.

LOL! Close the thread down, we have a winner!

October 15, 2010  10:09 PM ET
QUOTE(#10):

Hey, GR, how's it hangin'?

From what little I know of the other sports, the rivalries are about the same. In hoops, UCLA, Stanford and Zona are more often on the same level, but USC is still UCLA's rivalry game.

I'm doing alright, could be better but isn't that always the case?

And not intending to hijack the thread of anything, but be careful utilizing the term "hanging" around Gator fans these days, TtT. There's a certain Offensive Coordinator/O-line Coach that alot of our fans would like to apply that activity to.

October 17, 2010  04:09 AM ET
QUOTE(#18):

I'm doing alright, could be better but isn't that always the case?And not intending to hijack the thread of anything, but be careful utilizing the term "hanging" around Gator fans these days, TtT. There's a certain Offensive Coordinator/O-line Coach that alot of our fans would like to apply that activity to.

Think that OC hotseat just got warmer.

 
October 17, 2010  05:20 AM ET

Too bad this is the last year of the Pac 10's round robin schedule.

The 12 team membership should lighten up the schedules tho.

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