Message Boards

QUOTE(#3):

Originally posted 08:49 PM ET  10.17 by GrandTheftHarley

(Please see continuation of my quote above. Feel free to tear into my convoluted reasoning).

The only fuzz in your math is before this year you didn't need a winning record-a 6-6 record would do.

QUOTE(#5):

Originally posted 07:52 AM ET  10.18 by JRM74

.... Which two AQ conferences do y'all think get the extra BCS bid?

Does a 3 loss SEC team deserve to .... oh nevermind.

QUOTE(#6):

Originally posted 08:14 AM ET  10.18 by Dr. B-f-G

Does a 3 loss SEC team deserve to .... oh nevermind.

HA!!!!

Why doesn't the BCS just give up the ghost and just make bowl games for every single team in FBS? Then we can have Bowl Games from December until April and the offseason won't seem as interminable as it does now.

QUOTE(#5):

Originally posted 07:52 AM ET  10.18 by JRM74

What about BCS bowls? Ten teams total. Six will be conference champs from AQ conferences. Two will be (barring something really weird) Boise and TCU. Which two AQ conferences do y'all think get the extra BCS bid?

B12 and SEC would be the guess. Bama and Auburn/LSU from the SEC, OU and NEB from the B12. Stanford and/or MSU are other possibles.

QUOTE(#10):

Originally posted 01:07 PM ET  10.18 by JRM74

If Zero U wins the Big XII, then Nebraska has two losses. If Nebraska wins in a close game, I agree they probably both get BCS bids. If Michigan State and tOSU both win out, then I could see tOSU getting a bid. SEC's real murky. If 'Bama wins out, then the conference has no unbeaten teams. There is precedent for a 1-loss team that didn't win its division getting a BCS bid (Texas in 2008), so the winner of the LSU/Auburn game is a possibility.This is making my head hurt.

UGA didn't win the SEC East the year it beat Hawaii in the Sugar bowl either.

Alabama and Ohio State will get the extra bids if they win out, deserving or not they travel well and have tradition on their side, heck put em against each other in the Sugar....

QUOTE(#13):

Originally posted 02:30 PM ET  10.18 by JRM74

If 'Bama wins out, isn't it SEC champ? If tOSU wins out, it might well be Big 10 champ as well.

You are correct sir, it was just my little way of putting them together to play each other. I think it would be a helluva game.

QUOTE(#11):

Originally posted 01:28 PM ET  10.18 by Armpit

UGA didn't win the SEC East the year it beat Hawaii in the Sugar bowl either.

In retrospect, I'm not sure that qualifies as a BCS game.

It's a tall task, but IF Notre Dame can win out (beat Utah at home and USC on the road), they would be 9-3, with losses to Sparty, Michigan and Stanford.

Would that be enough to get them into the top 14 and be eligible for an at-large?

Assuming they are eligible, would they get an invite over TCU, SEC #2, Big XII #2 or Big10 #2?

QUOTE(#16):

Originally posted 03:18 PM ET  10.18 by UB bulls

It's a tall task, but IF Notre Dame can win out (beat Utah at home and USC on the road), they would be 9-3, with losses to Sparty, Michigan and Stanford.Would that be enough to get them into the top 14 and be eligible for an at-large?Assuming they are eligible, would they get an invite over TCU, SEC #2, Big XII #2 or Big10 #2?

In my opinion, no. They're currently unranked, and in order to make the top 14 they would have to beat ranked opponents. USC is pretty good but unranked. Utah is good but from a non-qualifying conference. If they lose to TCU their ranking will plummet--unfortunately, as they really are that good. ND has also lost to all of the ranked opponents they've played so far. So even at 9 - 3 I put them in the low 20's ranking-wise. Pre-Christmas toilet bowl territory.

QUOTE(#14):

Originally posted 02:44 PM ET  10.18 by 84

You are correct sir, it was just my little way of putting them together to play each other. I think it would be a helluva game.

It would be a heck of a game, although I think Ohio State matches up better against LSU and Auburn than they do against Alabama.

From what I've seen, the best way to beat Alabama is to have an offense capable of taking a decisive early lead and force them out of their run-first game plan. To get that early lead, a team has to have a vertical passing game and a willingness to take risks. With all due respect to tOSU, that just isn't in their DNA.

I know this is heresy, but I think Boise has that type of offense and just enough defense to hold off Alabama's inevitable comeback in the second half.

QUOTE(#18):

Originally posted 03:34 PM ET  10.18 by Orac

So even at 9 - 3 I put them in the low 20's ranking-wise.

I tend to agree, although last season 9-3 was enough for three teams (VaTech, LSU, Miami) to get into the top 14. ND would have two losses to 'good' teams, assuming that Sparty and Stanford stay ranked.

You're right that having Utah as your signature win won't wow too many sane voters, especially if TCU beats them Utah the week before. ND would get a goodwill bump from voters, but probably not enough to get a BCS invite.