MMA  > General MMA  > Brock Lesnar: our new thoughts?
October 27, 2010, 09:25 AM
Ok now that we've seen the mighty Brock Lesnar exposed what do we think of him now?

Where does he rank in the HW division?
October 27, 2010  10:08 AM ET

I honestly am dissapointed in Mr. Lesnar. I am a big hater of him yet thought he could have a legit chance at being the champ for a few years. And I based that on his size, strength, wrestling, and athletic ability.

What he did was show me he has no abilities beyond his big oaf wrestling abilities. He has no heart and no ability to defend him self when his opponent is on the offensive.

AND if it wasn't for the end of the round and a stupid Shane Carwin who gased after 1 round in a HW title fight (idiot) Brock prob would have lost that fight too.

I honestly am gonna rank him behind the likes of: Cain & JDS in the UFC and Fedor, Barnett, & Overeem in Strikeforce.

October 27, 2010  10:08 AM ET

5-2 overall

Meh, rank him on the 2nd half of the Top 10. Something like 7, 8, 9.

October 27, 2010  10:15 AM ET

One thing that I can't stand is the fact that some people were saying that "We have never seen someone like Brock Lesnar in MMA, never".

When, in fact, MMA has had guys just like him before. The only difference is that there was no hype surrounding them, they weren't former WWE stars.

October 27, 2010  11:08 AM ET

Like most great wrestlers...he is like a fish out of water when he is on his back...

I was surprised at how easily Cain got up when Brock had him down and was in a dominant position.

October 27, 2010  12:38 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

One thing that I can't stand is the fact that some people were saying that "We have never seen someone like Brock Lesnar in MMA, never".When, in fact, MMA has had guys just like him before. The only difference is that there was no hype surrounding them, they weren't former WWE stars.

Or people (Joe Rogan) saying he is rapidly improving. His striking was already below average and during the Cain fight it unbelievably looked worse. No head movement, terrible footwork plus now there are serious questions about his chin.

October 27, 2010  12:46 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

One thing that I can't stand is the fact that some people were saying that "We have never seen someone like Brock Lesnar in MMA, never".When, in fact, MMA has had guys just like him before. The only difference is that there was no hype surrounding them, they weren't former WWE stars.

I agree with this entirely.

And NCCA championship caliber wrestler (not a world champion, and NCAA champ), huge, explosive, but mediocre strikes and gas tank.

I don't even think he is the caliber of a 2000 Mark Kerr, who had much more technical and disciplined striking from his time training under Bas Rutten. Kerr had a pretty devastating leg kick back then, and was at least as strong as Lesnar.

October 27, 2010  12:47 PM ET

The big question to me is:

If Cain was able to do that with his striking and Ground and Pound, what would Alistair or Fedor have done to him?

October 27, 2010  12:53 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

One thing that I can't stand is the fact that some people were saying that "We have never seen someone like Brock Lesnar in MMA, never".When, in fact, MMA has had guys just like him before. The only difference is that there was no hype surrounding them, they weren't former WWE stars.

Your right but that hype brought a lot of people to watch MMA, I have friends who never watched a ufc event now watch them just to see Brock lose and are now interested in other fighters. Its a smart marketing move by the UFC, no other current ufc fighters brings that much attention to ppv maybe besides Rampage or GSP

October 27, 2010  12:53 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

The big question to me is:If Cain was able to do that with his striking and Ground and Pound, what would Alistair or Fedor have done to him?

Good question, too bad we will never know.

October 27, 2010  02:11 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

I agree with this entirely.And NCCA championship caliber wrestler (not a world champion, and NCAA champ), huge, explosive, but mediocre strikes and gas tank.I don't even think he is the caliber of a 2000 Mark Kerr, who had much more technical and disciplined striking from his time training under Bas Rutten. Kerr had a pretty devastating leg kick back then, and was at least as strong as Lesnar.

Good name drop on Mark Kerr!!! No doubt that Mark Kerr in his prime could beat Brock Lesnar no doubt.

October 27, 2010  02:28 PM ET

A 2001 Mark Coleman was the same beast as Brock. He had decent standup, he could hit people occasionally with basic boxing. Plus he had that incredible combination of timing and explosiveness that could double leg anyone on the planet.

October 27, 2010  02:30 PM ET

And now how laughable is Sherdog for now rakning Brock #2 after his lose. Brock didn't just lose he got dominated.

October 27, 2010  02:32 PM ET

Sherdog is starting to piss me off the last few years. They have become obvious UFC huggers. They used to be a non biased website.

October 27, 2010  07:39 PM ET
QUOTE(#12):

And now how laughable is Sherdog for now rakning Brock #2 after his lose. Brock didn't just lose he got dominated.

frank mir jumped back up because of his win over top contender CRO COP

i mean really that fight did not move mir anywhere
actually it probably dropped him 5 points

October 28, 2010  04:54 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

I agree with this entirely.And NCCA championship caliber wrestler (not a world champion, and NCAA champ), huge, explosive, but mediocre strikes and gas tank.I don't even think he is the caliber of a 2000 Mark Kerr, who had much more technical and disciplined striking from his time training under Bas Rutten. Kerr had a pretty devastating leg kick back then, and was at least as strong as Lesnar.

Travis Wiuff, the Heavyweight version

October 28, 2010  12:42 PM ET

Where is Jimj77 to defend his boy Brock?

October 28, 2010  12:44 PM ET

oh and would love to here from Roni and his thoughts on Brock losing. Someone get those guys back on this site!!!!! we are dwindling

October 28, 2010  01:21 PM ET
QUOTE(#15):

Travis Wiuff, the Heavyweight version

Wiuff is another good example, he is just a little smaller than most of those guys.

How about Dan Bobish?

He was fat, but he was a huge and powerful wrestler who could double leg almost anyone, and had a terrible gas tank.

October 28, 2010  02:29 PM ET
QUOTE(#18):

Wiuff is another good example, he is just a little smaller than most of those guys.How about Dan Bobish? He was fat, but he was a huge and powerful wrestler who could double leg almost anyone, and had a terrible gas tank.

What about Tom Erikson?

 
October 28, 2010  05:12 PM ET
QUOTE(#17):

oh and would love to here from Roni and his thoughts on Brock losing. Someone get those guys back on this site!!!!! we are dwindling

Roni was actually starting to like Lesnar because of his comments on not knowing who Chael Sonnen is (I talked to Roni)

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