NCAAF  > General NCAAF  > LaMichael James: Heisman Winner by Default?
November 5, 2010, 11:41 AM
So by now I???m sure you???ve all heard the big news about Cam Newton. There is currently an investigation going on that someone named Kenny Rogers (not the chicken guy/Gambler)was seeking cash payments on behalf of Cam Newton???s family as a way of guaranteeing his commitment when he was a high profile JC recruit last year.

And how does this effect LaMichael James you ask? Call it the ???Reggie Bush??? effect. While it???s clear that an investigation will take months, long past the end of the college football season, it makes Heisman voters think ???Do I want to vote for someone who might have the trophy taken away from them later????.....

Read the rest at http://www.12pacblog.com
November 5, 2010  11:45 AM ET

You don't know when you vote that someone will lose it later. Also, it doesn't look like Cam was involved. But I'm not sure.
Also, there is no default winner that I am aware of. I think it's just vacated or returned or whatever.

November 5, 2010  11:50 AM ET

I explain it a bit more in my writeup on http://www.12pacblog.com

It's not even what they know WILL HAPPEN, it's more about being scared of what COULD HAPPEN. From the look of things it didn't appear that Bush was involved, but the fact that his parents were is what made him ineligible. If it's found that Cams parents received illegal benefits then he could be ruled retroactively ineligible. Heisman voters may have this thought on their minds when they have to choose between Cam and LaMichael, and that fear alone might cause them to vote for LaMichael when they otherwise might have voted for Cam.

November 5, 2010  11:55 AM ET

Bush was involved. He knew. He was directly linked to what is going on. But Cam is NOT being linked unless there's been a development. It's between that guy Rogers and Burns (I think his name is). And I odn't know that the money was even mentioned to the parents. Again, I might be missing something.
Last I heard, the one guy offered another guy money for Cam to go to Miss State. There was no indication that the Newtons even know about the supposed deal. And cam didn't go there.

Bush was seen reaping the benefits.

Also, money was offered but was it ever exchanged? If not, exactly what went down? Because right now it's he said, she said.

November 5, 2010  11:56 AM ET

But if "he said, she said" leads to a big investigation, just the fear of the results could significantly alter the Heisman race.

November 5, 2010  11:59 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

But if "he said, she said" leads to a big investigation, just the fear of the results could significantly alter the Heisman race.

But the winner won't be a winner by default. If he's ineligible to play and win, that's just that. There's not "default". But as long as he's eligible to play, he's in the race for it.

I jsut read more on it and there might be ties to these guys iwth the dad. that I wasn't aware of....

November 5, 2010  12:04 PM ET

Don't blame me for this!!!!! I don't have a vote....lol

November 5, 2010  01:42 PM ET

I think this thing with CAM NEWTON just makes the Heisman more in favor of KELLEN MOORE because LaMichael James had that game suspension and stuff...so get rid of both of them and bring in KELLEN MOORE for it all!

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November 5, 2010  11:38 PM ET

I guess if BSU or Auburn were to get screwed out of a title BCS game then there might be a bit of a sympathy vote for the QB in question.

November 6, 2010  03:46 AM ET

If we don't get any more facts before the end of the season, I think it will be decided on the field. Cam's going to lose a few votes but if he continues to play like he has, it's still his. If some of the inferences that are being made are proven before the end of the season, then it's hard to see him winning it.

November 6, 2010  08:33 AM ET

I think that both Cam and Auburn are clean...and State was just reporting what it had to report. I think need to look at the Dad....IMO....

November 6, 2010  10:33 AM ET

Lots of question marks with the allegations against CN - and not much substance.

He's probably the best overall player so far this year, so hopefully this won't affect his play.

If the allegations do gain credibility over the next month, then voters may shift their votes elsewhere. But barring that, he is still the leader.

 
November 6, 2010  04:09 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

Bush was involved. He knew. He was directly linked to what is going on. But Cam is NOT being linked unless there's been a development. It's between that guy Rogers and Burns (I think his name is). And I odn't know that the money was even mentioned to the parents. Again, I might be missing something.

Last I heard, the one guy offered another guy money for Cam to go to Miss State. There was no indication that the Newtons even know about the supposed deal. And cam didn't go there. Bush was seen reaping the benefits. Also, money was offered but was it ever exchanged? If not, exactly what went down? Because right now it's he said, she said.

I agree that the Cam Newton situation (even if true) is very different from Bush.

Shopping high school and junior college players among prospective college teams has existed in the past and it MIGHT have happened in this case. Sometimes the player(or his family) is aware that money is changing hands and gets a cut, but other times they don't even realize that the 'friend' offering college enrollment advice is actually pimping them out.

IF the allegations turn out to be true, the school is in deep yogurt, but Newton and his family may be totally innocent. Conversely, Bush and his family set up the plan to collect money while Bush was still at USC.

Even IF money did change hands in securing Newton's signature to play at Auburn, unless it is proven that he or his family knew what was going on I think Newton should be allowed to keep any individual awards he may earn while at Auburn.

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