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I am calling it now- A 3 loss National Champ this year ;)

Auburn won't go undefeated, and Alabama won't end up with three losses.

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Originally posted 11:32 AM ET  11.08 by Tnerbo-charger

Any particular team in mind? Hmmmm??

U S C !!!!!!!!

QUOTE(#1):

Originally posted 09:32 AM ET  11.08 by BS&B:TrustInO-6

I am calling it now- A 3 loss National Champ this year ;)

Well, since Florida will have 4 losses, it won't be them.:)
And JRM still thinks the Longhorns will be the first 5 loss NC.

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Originally posted 09:32 AM ET  11.08 by BS&B:TrustInO-6

I am calling it now- A 3 loss National Champ this year ;)

The SEC Champ doesn't really have an auto-berth into the game, you know. it just seems that way.

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Originally posted 12:10 PM ET  11.08 by nextyearfrogs

Well, since Florida will have 4 losses, it won't be them.:)And JRM still thinks the Longhorns will be the first 5 loss NC.

And I still think that everyone ahead of Ohio State is miraculously going to lose their last three games and we'll be back in the NCG...

(Hey, a girl's gotta dream...)

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Originally posted 08:31 AM ET  11.08 by Grue

TCU-Oregon in the NC game, is the Big Ten allowed to pair it's champ against Stanford (I think so) or would the PAC 10 still have to take Boise State (at large team, not the AQ)?

I haven't seen anything written on this one way or the other. I'm guessing the Rose Bowl committee has their lawyers looking over the contract right now to figure out whether they need to take an at-large mid-major or not.

when that stipulation was written, I doubt anyone considered the possibility of the automatic mid-major getting to the NCG.

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Originally posted 12:51 PM ET  11.08 by UB bulls

I haven't seen anything written on this one way or the other. I'm guessing the Rose Bowl committee has their lawyers looking over the contract right now to figure out whether they need to take an at-large mid-major or not. when that stipulation was written, I doubt anyone considered the possibility of the automatic mid-major getting to the NCG.

Agreed. The way it is written:

"No more than one such team from Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, and the Western Athletic Conference shall earn an automatic berth in any year. Note: a second team may be eligible for at-large eligibility."

"For the games of January 2011 through 2014, the first year the Rose Bowl loses a team to the NCG and a team from the non-AQ group is an automatic qualifier, that non-AQ team will play in the Rose Bowl."

So if the Automatic Qualifier is in the NC game, the Rose Bowl can say "We only have to take an Automatic Qualifier. Boise State is an 'At-large' qualifier so we don't have to take them. We pick Stanford. :-P"

The BCS only has to take one non-AQ top 12 team. Whoever is lower could get screwed over, even BSU is #3 if TCU is #1 or vice versa.

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Originally posted 01:04 PM ET  11.08 by Grue

"So if the Automatic Qualifier is in the NC game, the Rose Bowl can say "We only have to take an Automatic Qualifier. Boise State is an 'At-large' qualifier so we don't have to take them. We pick Stanford. :-P"

That's the way I read it also.

But it also means that they would not be required to take Stanford , and could select the higher ranked team. Not likely, but I won't say impossible.

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Originally posted 12:36 PM ET  11.08 by Grue

The SEC Champ doesn't really have an auto-berth into the game, you know. it just seems that way.

True, and true.

I make it about 50-50 that both Oregon and Auburn lose a game. If that happens I'd expect a one-loss SEC champ to pass BSU into the BCS title game by virtue of a CCG win against a ranked opponent. If Bama wins the SEC, then I'd look for the Big XII champ at #2 for the same reason. Projections for final BCS rankings:
1. TCU
2/9 Neb/Okla
3. BSU
4. Alabama
5/6. Oregon/Wisc
7/10. Auburn/LSU
8. tOSU

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Originally posted 01:19 PM ET  11.08 by BS&B:TrustInO-6

The BCS only has to take one non-AQ top 12 team. Whoever is lower could get screwed over, even BSU is #3 if TCU is #1 or vice versa.

Yep, and that top non-AQ team will play in the Rose (if not the title game).

A lot of these problems may sort themselves out very soon though. The supply of one loss teams is shrinking fast-I doubt any team with 2 losses (read SEC or B12 team) will get in a BCS game as an at-large over an undefeated at-large BSU or TCU. I doubt any one loss team from the other conferences would get in over an undefeated BSU or TCU.

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Originally posted 02:09 PM ET  11.08 by Tribute to Troy

True, and true. I make it about 50-50 that both Oregon and Auburn lose a game. If that happens I'd expect a one-loss SEC champ to pass BSU into the BCS title game by virtue of a CCG win against a ranked opponent. If Bama wins the SEC, then I'd look for the Big XII champ at #2 for the same reason. Projections for final BCS rankings:1. TCU2/9 Neb/Okla3. BSU4. Alabama5/6. Oregon/Wisc7/10. Auburn/LSU8. tOSU

Best case-OU wins out in the B12 (to include the CC game), UGA and Bama beat AU, ARK beats LSU, Iowa beats tOSU, and CAL beats the Ducks. TCU and BSU for the title game and we have a playoff after the 2011 season.

It would be helpful if Stanford, WISC, or MSU get loss #2 but I don't think any of them would jump BSU or TCU.

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Originally posted 02:09 PM ET  11.08 by Tribute to Troy

True, and true. I make it about 50-50 that both Oregon and Auburn lose a game. If that happens I'd expect a one-loss SEC champ to pass BSU into the BCS title game by virtue of a CCG win against a ranked opponent. If Bama wins the SEC, then I'd look for the Big XII champ at #2 for the same reason. Projections for final BCS rankings:1. TCU2/9 Neb/Okla3. BSU4. Alabama5/6. Oregon/Wisc7/10. Auburn/LSU8. tOSU

I don't think you are right and I hope you are not right. Its hard to separate one from the other sometime.

I thought Bama was the only one loss BCS team that could pass Boise or TCU. They fell out this week. LSU would have a slight chance with two huge If's....Auburn loses twice and the voters can forget about the ugly close wins. Oklahoma already has two losses. I don't think Wisky, Nebraska, Ohio St. would garner enought support to move past Boise/TCU.

I don't think Oregon will lose a game and I do believe Auburn will lose a game.

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Originally posted 01:41 PM ET  11.08 by JPax

That's the way I read it also. But it also means that they would not be required to take Stanford , and could select the higher ranked team. Not likely, but I won't say impossible.

Based on the time that the Rose Bowl took Illinois over higher ranked teams, I'd say they have a bias towards setting up Pac10 vs. Big10 games any time they can do so within the letter of the BCS rules.

While it's true that the 2003 Rose Bowl featured OU instead of the Big10 #2, (Big10 #1 tOSU went to the NCG to face Miami), that was only because the Orange bowl got to choose their replacement pick first and grabbed big 10 #2 Iowa.

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Originally posted 02:16 PM ET  11.08 by JPax

I don't think you are right and I hope you are not right. Its hard to separate one from the other sometime. I thought Bama was the only one loss BCS team that could pass Boise or TCU. They fell out this week. LSU would have a slight chance with two huge If's....Auburn loses twice and the voters can forget about the ugly close wins. Oklahoma already has two losses. I don't think Wisky, Nebraska, Ohio St. would garner enought support to move past Boise/TCU. I don't think Oregon will lose a game and I do believe Auburn will lose a game.

I pretty much agree with this. I also think Bama was the only one loss team that could jump TCU/BSU, although The HAT seems to think otherwise. And I also think Auburn will lose one and Oregon will not.
TCU or BSU may be two of only a handful of teams whose defense might slow Oregon down. No one is going to stop them, but if TCU could hold Oregon to 21-24 points, they would have a great shop at winning.

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Originally posted 02:30 PM ET  11.08 by nextyearfrogs

I pretty much agree with this. I also think Bama was the only one loss team that could jump TCU/BSU, although The HAT seems to think otherwise. And I also think Auburn will lose one and Oregon will not. TCU or BSU may be two of only a handful of teams whose defense might slow Oregon down. No one is going to stop them, but if TCU could hold Oregon to 21-24 points, they would have a great shop at winning.

The TCU offense would worry me a bit if they faced Oregon. Last year they had way too much rust on them by the time the bowl date came. Not sure at all that TCU would be able to get more than 17-21 on the Ducks if they didn't get off the blocks fast.

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Originally posted 02:11 PM ET  11.08 by Armpit

I doubt any team with 2 losses (read SEC or B12 team) will get in a BCS game as an at-large over an undefeated at-large BSU or TCU.

Since the at-large bids are offered with an eye toward TV ratings and hotel bookings, I disagree.

I love everything Boise has accomplished and what they stand for, but if (for example) the Orange has a choice between Boise and a 2 loss Alabama, I'd expect them to take Alabama.

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Originally posted 02:37 PM ET  11.08 by UB bulls

Since the at-large bids are offered with an eye toward TV ratings and hotel bookings, I disagree. I love everything Boise has accomplished and what they stand for, but if (for example) the Orange has a choice between Boise and a 2 loss Alabama, I'd expect them to take Alabama.

The Fiesta, with a great history of Games with Boise State, might take them over an SEC team.

But that would be the only one.

I think the Big 12 gets only one spot this year....

3 at large go to Boise, Stanford (1 loss), Big Ten Runner Up (1 loss, 2nd of Michigan State, Wisconsin, Ohio State), and SEC Runner up (say LSU with 1 loss). The one left out would have to be Boise State.