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November 8, 2010, 01:30 PM
saturday, Boise State CRUSHED Hawaii but nothing changed, will we get a big BCS bowl or will we not????
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November 8, 2010  03:28 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Boise will get a BCS bid if it wins out. If either Oregon or TCU lose a game, Boise's most likely in the NC game. If both those two win out, they'll play for the title.

Disagree.

6 AQ spots.
1 Non-BCS AQ spot to TCu (higher ranked).

That leaves three spots for:
* Boise State
* 1 loss Stanford
* 1 loss LSU
* 1 loss Michigan State/Ohio State/Wisconsin - none of those teams play each other. Ohio State gets a big boost or knocked out facing Iowa.

Selection Order:
January 2011 games: Sugar, Orange, Fiesta


If Auburn wins out (assume Oregon):

Rose gets Big Ten Champ vs TCU (replaces Oregon)
Sugar Bowl Picks First: Sugar is taking LSU to fill that spot. Then picks Big Ten Runner Up over Stanford, Boise State.
Orange Picks: ACC Champ & Standford > Boise State
Fiesta: Big 12 & Big East Champ (Nobody wants them)

IF Auburn does not win the SEC Championship:
Sugar takes SEC Champ (Florida or SC) to face Big Ten Runner Up
Orange takes 1-loss LSU or Auburn to face the ACC Champ.
Fiesta stuck with Big 12 vs Big East

If TCU goes to the NC game against Oregon, the Rose is taking Stanford. If not, it has to take TCU. Either way, the Big Ten Champ is here.

In any choice between Stanford and Boise State... Sorry, the California market wins out.

November 8, 2010  03:40 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

In any choice between Stanford and Boise State... Sorry, the California market wins out.

You are probably right, but I think there some chance.

There are probably many reasons but what do you see as the most important?

I think Boise would bring better ratings to the Rose Bowl than Stanford. Boise has become a phenomenom even among the most casual of college football fans. They also appeal to the small school vs. the BCS giant mentality that many college football fans and bystanders find appealing.

I think Boise fans would travel and stay longer in the area than Stanford fans. Stanford is not a huge travel program.

If those two points are even partly true, would the Rose pick Stanford just to maintain good relations with the two conferences?

I think this is such a unique season that I could see Boise picked ahead of Stanford. I still think it is unlikely though.

November 8, 2010  03:41 PM ET

Besides, I'd much rather see Boise play a Big 10 school than an SEC school. :)

November 8, 2010  03:41 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

You are probably right, but I think there some chance. There are probably many reasons but what do you see as the most important? I think Boise would bring better ratings to the Rose Bowl than Stanford. Boise has become a phenomenom even among the most casual of college football fans. They also appeal to the small school vs. the BCS giant mentality that many college football fans and bystanders find appealing. I think Boise fans would travel and stay longer in the area than Stanford fans. Stanford is not a huge travel program. If those two points are even partly true, would the Rose pick Stanford just to maintain good relations with the two conferences?I think this is such a unique season that I could see Boise picked ahead of Stanford. I still think it is unlikely though.

Thank you for wading through the conditions.

The Rose picks Stanford just because it was strong-armed into taking a no-BCS AQ and because it has historical ties to the Pac 10.

November 8, 2010  03:44 PM ET

And Boise State has the strongest ties to the Fiesta. They Fiesta loves them, but really, the Fiesta has no choices since they pick last.

November 8, 2010  04:58 PM ET

I'm not sure Stanford really has the California market. How many grads do they have compared to the big state schools?

November 8, 2010  05:00 PM ET

Also, Stanford can certainly loose one of the three they have left.

November 8, 2010  05:30 PM ET

What happens if no BE team is bowl eligible? lol

November 8, 2010  05:31 PM ET

I couldn't believe it when i heard that yesterday that no BE team was yet bowl eligible.

November 8, 2010  05:34 PM ET
QUOTE(#9):

Also, Stanford can certainly loose one of the three they have left.

Certainly losses throw that into chaos. Have to make some assumptions but 0 loss BSU is more attractive than 2-loss teams.

November 8, 2010  06:04 PM ET
QUOTE(#11):

I couldn't believe it when i heard that yesterday that no BE team was yet bowl eligible.

not true...Syracuse has 6 wins, and four other teams have 5 wins.....you only need 6 to go bowling

November 8, 2010  06:10 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

I'm not sure Stanford really has the California market. How many grads do they have compared to the big state schools?

Most of their grads have housekeepers that went to the big state schools, so the market is bigger than it appears.

November 8, 2010  06:33 PM ET
QUOTE(#13):

not true...Syracuse has 6 wins, and four other teams have 5 wins.....you only need 6 to go bowling

6 against FBS schools needed. One of the Orange's wins was against a FCS school

November 8, 2010  06:36 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

Most of their grads have housekeepers that went to the big state schools, so the market is bigger than it appears.

Yah, but do CAL/USC/UCLA grads really care about Stanford? I went to SDSU and I don't really care about the other Cal State schools.

November 8, 2010  06:37 PM ET
QUOTE(#11):

I couldn't believe it when i heard that yesterday that no BE team was yet bowl eligible.

That is a pretty funny stat.

November 8, 2010  06:40 PM ET
QUOTE(#15):

6 against FBS schools needed. One of the Orange's wins was against a FCS school

And without spending a lot of time looking, I'll just venture to guess that at least 1 or 2 of those with 5 wins have played FCS schools also.

November 8, 2010  06:46 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Thank you for wading through the conditions.The Rose picks Stanford just because it was strong-armed into taking a no-BCS AQ and because it has historical ties to the Pac 10.

In 2007 the Rose Bowl might have had UGA or other highly ranked team, but instead chose at-large #13 Illinois to play USC. Given the option, there's no way the Rose Bowl fails to select Pac-10 vs Big Ten.

With respect to JP, the Rose Bowl has never been too concerned with which teams travel best. If not so fierce about preserving traditions, the Rose Bowl might have joined the Bowl Coalition in 1992. IMO, the only way Boise gets to the Rose Bowl is if TCU loses to SDSU or UNM.

November 8, 2010  06:53 PM ET
QUOTE(#16):

Yah, but do CAL/USC/UCLA grads really care about Stanford? I went to SDSU and I don't really care about the other Cal State schools.

I'm not sure what "care about" means. I can guarantee that Cal cares about Stanford, but not in a good way. To a lesser extent USC also cares about Stanford, but USC is not a state school.

 
November 8, 2010  06:55 PM ET
QUOTE(#13):

not true...Syracuse has 6 wins, and four other teams have 5 wins.....you only need 6 to go bowling

Syracuse has two wins against FCS teams (Colgate and Maine.) Only one can count for bowl eligibility. So Syracuse still only has five wins as far as bowl eligibility is concerned.

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