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November 17, 2010, 12:33 PM
Are you happy with Phillies Roy Halladay winning the 2010 Cy Young Award?

If not, who do you think should of won it?
November 17, 2010  12:54 PM ET

While Wainwright was close, Halladay won it fair and square!

November 20, 2010  11:52 AM ET

The right pitchers were picked...both are the most deserving

November 20, 2010  06:57 PM ET

i like how they decided that Felix Hernandez' 13-12 record wasn't his fault. i think they should take that idea further, however, and realize that the Mariners' 61-101 record wasn't their fault, either. they had really terrible luck all year, and it's not fair that they should penalized for it.

the writers should vote them into the World Series (well, it's too late now, i guess).

November 20, 2010  07:20 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

i like how they decided that Felix Hernandez' 13-12 record wasn't his fault. i think they should take that idea further, however, and realize that the Mariners' 61-101 record wasn't their fault, either. they had really terrible luck all year, and it's not fair that they should penalized for it. the writers should vote them into the World Series (well, it's too late now, i guess).

Everyone is in love with sabremetrics. Why play the games. We'll just look at stats to decide World Series winner.

November 20, 2010  09:58 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

Everyone is in love with sabremetrics. Why play the games. We'll just look at stats to decide World Series winner.

It's not just sabermetrics that shows Felix was the best pitcher...Felix beat CC and Price in every other stat besides wins/losses....that includes traditional stats like, ERA (1st), IP (1st), WHIP (2nd), Ks (2nd)....

If win/losses are the important stat, that means 17 other pitchers should have finished ahead of Felix in the AL CY Young voting...cause 17 pitchers won more games while winning less game than Felix did.

November 21, 2010  10:31 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

It's not just sabermetrics that shows Felix was the best pitcher...Felix beat CC and Price in every other stat besides wins/losses....that includes traditional stats like, ERA (1st), IP (1st), WHIP (2nd), Ks (2nd)....If win/losses are the important stat, that means 17 other pitchers should have finished ahead of Felix in the AL CY Young voting...cause 17 pitchers won more games while winning less game than Felix did.

i'm not saying you shouldn't consider those factors. but the object of the game is still to win and not just have a great WHIP.

would you rather pitch a two-hitter and strike out 15 batters and lose 1-0, or give up 10 hits, walk 8 batters, and win 12-10? i get the argument that in the first case you're a better pitcher and if you kept that up you'd be more deserving of the Cy Young.

but 13 wins, when there are 20-game winners in the league that year???

November 22, 2010  01:00 AM ET

A TEAM wins a game...

Felix had the most quality starts for a pitcher in 21 years...meaning he only gave up more than 3 ER in 4 games. 30 quality starts and he went 13-8 with 9 no decisions.

He got 3.75 runs of support (BY FAR, the lest in baseball)...CC and Price got over 7 runs of support when they were on the mound.

Like I said, if you think wins matter above all else (and apparently some do), then 17 other pitchers in the AL were more deserving than Felix...since 17 pitches had more wins than Felix while having less losses. I'm sure he'd rather have the wins, but he did everything he could. He doesn't bat, he can't make his team score runs. A pitcher can only do so much and no AL pitcher did more

He had the best ERA even though he pitched the most innings and faced the most batters.
1st in ERA, 1st in IP, 2nd in Ks, 2nd in WHIP, 1st in quality starts, 1st in BAA, 1st in OPS against. He had 6 complete game. The pitchers who finished 2nd and 3rd, didn't come close to Felix. He did all this while facing more .500 and better teams than both Price and CC (to include over 20% of his games against the AL East which he destroyed). So the whole argument of how CC and Price faced better quality opponents cause they were in the AL East...HOGWASH!

He was, by far, the best pitcher with the #2 and #3 voted guys didn't come close regardless of the amount of wins they won...

November 22, 2010  01:03 AM ET

That last sentence of that post was a mess...trying again: He was, by far, the best pitcher in the AL. The #2 and #3 voted guys didn't come close regardless of the amount of games they won...

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November 24, 2010  04:15 PM ET
QUOTE(#12):

He was, by far, the best pitcher in the AL. The #2 and #3 voted guys didn't come close regardless of the amount of games they won...

maybe, maybe not. the problem with calling someone "the best" at anything is that it's open to interpretation. the significance of this Cy Young vote is that Hernandez was voted in based on what he shoulda/coulda done ... that is, win ballgames ... instead of what he did do.

November 24, 2010  05:16 PM ET
QUOTE(#15):

maybe, maybe not. the problem with calling someone "the best" at anything is that it's open to interpretation. the significance of this Cy Young vote is that Hernandez was voted in based on what he shoulda/coulda done ... that is, win ballgames ... instead of what he did do.

By every real pitching standard he was, by far, the best in the AL. It's not open to interpretation. Some of you insist on sticking by a stat that should be a team stat. Winning and losing is something a TEAM does, not a pitcher. He wasn't voted CY Young on what he shoulda/coulda done. He was voted CY Young because of what HE did instead of what his team did (or didn't do)

I've shown you everything, and you should be able to see it...for whatever reason, you choose not too...probably cause it doesn't support your guy.

November 25, 2010  04:17 PM ET
QUOTE(#16):

I've shown you everything, and you should be able to see it...for whatever reason, you choose not too...probably cause it doesn't support your guy.

i happen to disagree with you. don't get so upset over it.

November 25, 2010  05:42 PM ET
QUOTE(#17):

i happen to disagree with you. don't get so upset over it.

Not upset...enjoyed the debate...Happy Bird Day

 
November 26, 2010  11:49 AM ET

Lester and Buccholz are much better than CC and Hernandez

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